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If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It???


If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It???  

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  1. 1. If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It So You Can Cruise Again?

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I am 67 and overweight (guess watching those exercise videos don't help at all!!) but only take one medication for a hypothyroid condition. DH is 65 and takes meds for a partial heart blockage. We are a part of the medical community and believe in the safety of our vaccines, so YES, we will be getting the Covid-19 vaccine when it becomes available. Before I began working for a hospital, I would get a nasty flu around the first of every year. Once I began working for the hospital and received its required vaccines plus the optional flu vaccine, I never experienced those bad flu symptoms again, so I believe vaccines work! Yes, I do get mild illnesses rarely but nothing like I used to get before beginning the flu vaccine. I do understand people who are fearful and do not trust vaccines. I just wish there was a gentle way to convince them otherwise, maybe through better education and proof; I hate to see people forced to get them but I don't want them to be carriers either. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, I guess.

 

We're all in this together! Please stay safe everyone and try to keep others safe if you can!! CHEERS!!

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Absolutely, I will be getting the vaccine as soon as it is deemed safe by my personal doctors.  The risks of dying from the vaccine after being extensively tested in 3 phased trials are far less than the risk of dying from covid-19.

 

I also am a firm believer that the due to the world wide consequences of this pandemic, it should be required to cruise, go to school, fly, vacation, especially schools and cruising with mass people in close quarters. And no religious or personal exemptions, only medical exemptions by recognized medical personnel that are licensed to prescribe medications. No exemptions from the local chiropractor or other health professionals.

 

 

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On 8/3/2020 at 3:11 PM, cured said:

Absolutely, I will be getting the vaccine as soon as it is deemed safe by my personal doctors.  The risks of dying from the vaccine after being extensively tested in 3 phased trials are far less than the risk of dying from covid-19.

 

I also am a firm believer that the due to the world wide consequences of this pandemic, it should be required to cruise, go to school, fly, vacation, especially schools and cruising with mass people in close quarters. And no religious or personal exemptions, only medical exemptions by recognized medical personnel that are licensed to prescribe medications. No exemptions from the local chiropractor or other health professionals.

 

 

Right now I agree with you, might change my mind down the road but if a vaccine becomes available, then yes, in  order to do some things proof of a vaccination should be required and if you can't or won't get one, then that is your choice but certain things will be off limits, at least or a while.

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Retired from Pharmacy and in my seventies. Would I get vaccinated against Covid-19 YES, and not just to cruise.

 

I signed up for the Covid-19  vaccine trials just as my parents did for me so I could get the trial vaccination against Polio.

 

My older sisters both contracted Polio before I was born and I didn't.

 

 

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On 7/23/2020 at 2:11 PM, seaface said:

Many Doctors - but just saw a video from Dr. Carrie Madej warning on Covid vaccine on Youtube.  She's worried because she's never seen a vaccine being fastracked so much they are skipping testing on animals and going right to humans.  There's a lot of other concerns that I won't go into, but you can watch the video and make your own decision.  Just hope the vaccine isn't required if it happens.

 

 

 

Sorry, but she is nothing but an Anti-Vaxxer spreading lies.

 

Her first lie where she states there has been NO animal testing in the Pre-Clinical phase, and she goes on from there.

The tests no in Phase THREE have more than 100,000 volunteers in all types of test trials. 

 

AS FAR AS ANIMAL TESTS, HERE ARE A FEW ARTICLES ANBD TESTS TO CHECK OUT, "DOCTOR" Madej... 

 

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On 7/24/2020 at 5:45 PM, grandgeezer said:

We will get it when it’s available although it might be a long time before we cruise again. You can get the virus anytime anyplace.

If the vaccine they develop gives you immunity you would not get the flu, even if exposed to it.

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On 7/22/2020 at 1:23 PM, Mapleleafforever said:

A rushed vaccine can absolutely do more harm than good, this is (should be) common knowledge. 

 

1976 Swine Flu vaccine. Look it up. Looking back, there was no need for it in the first place......

 

Fears from the 1970s

The 1976 vaccine caused around 10 cases per million vaccinated. Even ordinary flu vaccines, however, are thought to cause one extra case of Guillain-Barré per million, in addition to the 10 to 20 per million who get Guillain-Barré some other way every year.

Does this mean it is safer not getting vaccinated? Absolutely not. First, there is the risk of swine flu killing you. Second, what few people know is that flu itself is far more likely to cause Guillain-Barré than any flu vaccine.

A 2009 study found that out of every million people who get flu, between 40 and 70 develop Guillain-Barré. So your best chance of avoiding Guillain-Barré is to get vaccinated, a conclusion backed by a 2007 study.


AND AS FAR AS GUILLAIN-BARRE syndrome goes...Most people eventually make a full recovery from Guillain-Barré syndrome, but this can sometimes take a long time and around 1 in 5 people have long-term problems. The vast majority of people recover within a year. A few people may have symptoms again years later, but this is rare.

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1 hour ago, boscobeans said:

Fears from the 1970s

The 1976 vaccine caused around 10 cases per million vaccinated. Even ordinary flu vaccines, however, are thought to cause one extra case of Guillain-Barré per million, in addition to the 10 to 20 per million who get Guillain-Barré some other way every year.

Does this mean it is safer not getting vaccinated? Absolutely not. First, there is the risk of swine flu killing you. Second, what few people know is that flu itself is far more likely to cause Guillain-Barré than any flu vaccine.

A 2009 study found that out of every million people who get flu, between 40 and 70 develop Guillain-Barré. So your best chance of avoiding Guillain-Barré is to get vaccinated, a conclusion backed by a 2007 study.


AND AS FAR AS GUILLAIN-BARRE syndrome goes...Most people eventually make a full recovery from Guillain-Barré syndrome, but this can sometimes take a long time and around 1 in 5 people have long-term problems. The vast majority of people recover within a year. A few people may have symptoms again years later, but this is rare.

There was no need for the vaccine in 1976 is the point.......

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No. From what I understand the vaccine will be very different, it permanently alters your genetic makeup in some way. I don't feel one can trust those involved these days compared to the days when the polio vaccine was developed. 

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19 minutes ago, goldfish65 said:

No. From what I understand the vaccine will be very different, it permanently alters your genetic makeup in some way. I don't feel one can trust those involved these days compared to the days when the polio vaccine was developed. 

I guess we will grow tails again.  Fake News.

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I read an article last week that stated that the Wuhan Virus is endemic which means it will never go away, we will be first in line if possible for the vaccine. 

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1 hour ago, goldfish65 said:

No. From what I understand the vaccine will be very different, it permanently alters your genetic makeup in some way. I don't feel one can trust those involved these days compared to the days when the polio vaccine was developed. 

It does not alter your genetic material. It teaches your cells to defend against the RNA component in the virus which makes it unable to replicate and make you sick.  There are different types of vaccines being developed, but the RNA one is doing very, very well.    The vaccines being developed are also using data and research from the SARS outbreak from over 15 years ago.  

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2 hours ago, goldfish65 said:

No. From what I understand the vaccine will be very different, it permanently alters your genetic makeup in some way. I don't feel one can trust those involved these days compared to the days when the polio vaccine was developed. 

Where in the world did you get that?  Seriously, where did you find that little tidbit?

 

This is exactly how conspiracy theories start. A person with no scientific knowledge hears the word RNA and all of a sudden spreads rumors that something is going to permanently alter your genetic makeup.  Those that do not follow science all say AHA and further spread the conspiracy theory until the unscientific believe its truth.

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1 hour ago, goldfish65 said:

How do you know what is fake news and what is not? 

1) I read actual science such as scientific, peer reviewed journals. Not conspiracy theory websites.

2) I have 2 family members working on one of the RNA vaccines so first hand knowledge.

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4 hours ago, sea shepherd said:

Hell NO! Not putting something that is not proven safe in me. 

That is one of the things the clinical trials will do. Exactly what will it take for you to accept something is "safe?"

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38 minutes ago, mek said:

That is one of the things the clinical trials will do. Exactly what will it take for you to accept something is "safe?"

It will take me a few years after seeing how people are responding to these vaccines.  I am in no hurry to do anything right now. 

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52 minutes ago, sea shepherd said:

It will take me a few years after seeing how people are responding to these vaccines.  

 

A few years?  I don't think I'm willing to wait that long to start traveling again. Not to sound moribund, but never know ultimately if any of us even has a few years. Who knows what could come along in the meantime. I'm as cautious as anybody with this masking / social distancing, etc. but I prefer not to live a significant portion of what may remain of the rest of my life worrying about getting this virus. 

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6 hours ago, sea shepherd said:

Hell NO! Not putting something that is not proven safe in me. 

 

And yet people do things all the time like smoke, not exercise, and eat junk food - all things that are proven to be not conducive to good health. Life is full of so many risks that we have no control over. I'd volunteer for a vaccine trial. 

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1 hour ago, sea shepherd said:

It will take me a few years after seeing how people are responding to these vaccines.  I am in no hurry to do anything right now. 

And what do you do between now and a few years to not catch C19?  Are you willing to live the way we are for another 1-2-3-4 years?  Not me.

 

I'll take my "chances" with a vaccine.

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46 minutes ago, mek said:

And what do you do between now and a few years to not catch C19?  Are you willing to live the way we are for another 1-2-3-4 years?  Not me.

 

I'll take my "chances" with a vaccine.

Yes that’s fine. I am living normally no stupid masks no social distances. Still have live music. We have had a total of 56 cases of covid and 0 deaths here. So I will take my chances. But you do what you have to. I am just saying I am not the lab rat. 

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