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4 minutes ago, Oxo said:

Or Canada/New England?

 

Or eventually San Juan?  I'm considering B2Bs from SJ on Empress, but not booking until her fate is known.  I wouldn't fly that far for just any ole ship!

 

 

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15 minutes ago, NuisanceLuke said:

 

Or eventually San Juan?  I'm considering B2Bs from SJ on Empress, but not booking until her fate is known.  I wouldn't fly that far for just any ole ship!

 

 

 

Any ship can go to SJ😉😇

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18 hours ago, Computer Nerd said:

VAT Tax for England is 20% and for Denmark is 25%. No idea where you get 60% from as that is waaaaaay off the mark when comparing apples to apples. Either way, it proves when compared to US sales taxes that Europeans, unlike the US (for the most part), have no issues whatsoever slapping more and more taxes on their population as a whole.

FYI, when I was stationed in England from 1981-1983, the VAT was only 11%. Why the extra 9% in the last 30+ years? Finding that your free health care ain't so free?

Not sure how I got involved in this. Anyway

For a start, value added tax has nothing to do with the health service.

In Uk we get wages every week or monthly and we have deductions. Income tax is taking off at a rate of 20% and national insurance (to cover health care) is taken off at 12%. However, the first £187 per week is free from the NI tax.

VAT was brought in to allow company's to claim back on certain products. VAT is included in every price in supermarkets etc.

VAT is however shown on goods in places like Costco, building supply yards as company's can claim Vat back if vat is charged if they charge the customer Vat. 

 

Denmark currently has an income tax of 58.5%. Not sure what that includes. You will have to ask a Dane.

 

Sorry folks for going off topic, but I had to reply.

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7 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Any ship can go to SJ😉😇

That is true.but empress is only one small enough to fit in hamilton cruise port.I donot thing RC would sell the only ship they have for that port.Not with their financial situation

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Just now, hencar said:

That is true.but empress is only one small enough to fit in hamilton cruise port.I donot thing RC would sell the only ship they have for that port.Not with their financial situation

 

But that's just one of three potential stops.🤔

 

Its not like restricting a popular departure point like Baltimore or Tampa 

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3 minutes ago, NuisanceLuke said:

 

Yes, that is true. . .so? 

I'm just mourning her possible loss.  What's wrong with that?

 

Nothing, it's just that the previous two posters were questioning ports that required Empress to get into. 😉

 

You probably could have made your point without including the first sentence 

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5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

But that's just one of three potential stops.🤔

 

Its not like restricting a popular departure point like Baltimore or Tampa 

 

5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

But that's just one of three potential stops.🤔

 

Its not like restricting a popular departure point like Baltimore or Tampa 

 

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2 minutes ago, wendyp247 said:

We were originally booked on Vision for Canada and New England  October 2020. Did lift and Shift to Empress with a similar itinerary for 2021

 

We moved from the 11-night Canada Adventure on Empress in Sept. 2020 to the same itinerary in September 2021. It's a great itinerary, but I don't know whether any other RCI ship can sail from Montreal. 

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2 hours ago, NancyIL said:

 

We moved from the 11-night Canada Adventure on Empress in Sept. 2020 to the same itinerary in September 2021. It's a great itinerary, but I don't know whether any other RCI ship can sail from Montreal. 

I'm on Montreal to San Juan. Really looking forward to the ports. I think that will be it for Montreal though if it's the end

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Oceania has three Cruise in July 2021 to ports of St George and Hamilton , Bermuda.  Still pulling for the Empress of the Sea to make it to Bermuda in 2021.  Our 2020 cruise was canceled to Bermuda on Empress.  Took the credit and I'm hoping to use the125% credit.

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37 minutes ago, wendyp247 said:

NCL, Celebrity , Viking  and Princess also have similar itineraries to Canada and New England

I have checked their websites and I didn't see any r/t from Montreal.  Did I miss any?  We could drive to Montreal.

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On 7/31/2020 at 9:36 AM, Beachammo said:

Empress has been for sale for awhile now.....but Royal just reduced the price.

 

Not sure how much it's worth in Scrap

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The wiki on ship-breaking suggested $400 a ton.  Based on 5300 DWT (dead weight tons), that would be about $21M.  So apparently they are willing to sell her for $20M to someone who will use her vs. breaking her up.

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22 minutes ago, DavidJay2 said:

The wiki on ship-breaking suggested $400 a ton.  Based on 5300 DWT (dead weight tons), that would be about $21M.  So apparently they are willing to sell her for $20M to someone who will use her vs. breaking her up.

 

Isn't that 2.1 million

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1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Blasphemy😉

I know but let's face it Royal is a mass market cruise line. Focus on what you do best. I remember a thread comparing Royal to McDonald's and that raised a bit of a stir. But how many people will miss Empress if she leaves? (It's a rhetorical question lol) Not many. She represents a niche for nostalgia and small ships. If it turns out post-pandemic that the large ships become the dinosaurs and small ships can make a resurgence then I don't really see any place for Empress given her age. Or if the large ships return to being the money-makers what's her place in the grand scheme. Like I said I dunno. Just thinking out loud.

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37 minutes ago, Pratique said:

I know but let's face it Royal is a mass market cruise line. Focus on what you do best. I remember a thread comparing Royal to McDonald's and that raised a bit of a stir. But how many people will miss Empress if she leaves? (It's a rhetorical question lol) Not many. She represents a niche for nostalgia and small ships. If it turns out post-pandemic that the large ships become the dinosaurs and small ships can make a resurgence then I don't really see any place for Empress given her age. Or if the large ships return to being the money-makers what's her place in the grand scheme. Like I said I dunno. Just thinking out loud.

 

I totally agree, but a certain niche doesn't want to hear it😉

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