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3 minutes ago, bafinegan said:

Who?  Here in Ga, Quest does private testing with sites at Walmart and cvs (by appointment)  Hubbs used the one at our loczl CVS and that is the one that took 8 days to get the results. 

 

baf

 

Oh man. It took 8 days? You can do most of your quarantine while waiting to hear back.

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The punchline is Abbott...

 

30-second coronavirus test could help out the travel sector and more

Oct. 11, 2020 7:24 AM ET|About: Abbott Laboratories (ABT)|By: Yoel Minkoff, SA News Editor 

A rapid coronavirus detection test that gives results in under a minute - developed by Israel and India - should be ready in "a matter of days," according to Israeli Ambassador to India Ron Malka. "All the thresholds have been passed."

"It will be good news for the entire world. Until we manage to immunize the entire population, this joint operation, which we had named 'Open Skies,' would literally open the skies in terms of international travel and other economic activities as this can be used at airports and other places by requiring a person just to blow into a tube and the result would be available in 30-40-50 seconds."

The test is also very inexpensive, as the results are delivered locally without the logistics and cost of sending samples to a lab.

Israel sent a high-level Defense Research and Development Directorate delegation to India in July to develop the new and rapid test, while treating Indian patients with COVID-19. Preliminary tests have been carried out in the country and each of them has successfully passed the various stages required.

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1 hour ago, bafinegan said:

Who?  Here in Ga, Quest does private testing with sites at Walmart and cvs (by appointment)  Hubbs used the one at our loczl CVS and that is the one that took 8 days to get the results. 

 

baf

 

You need to go directly with Quest either in person or by mail.not through a 3rd party.

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1 hour ago, regoodwinjr said:

You need to go directly with Quest either in person or by mail.not through a 3rd party.

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we looked into that and was told (by Quest) that mail in promises a result in 5-7 days.  SO that won't work.  Here in COlumbus Ga, there is NOT an option to go directly to QUest for COvid19 testing.  THey either want 3rd party ( Walmart or CVS) or the mail in...But thanks for your input!

 

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22 hours ago, Organized Chaos said:

 

Let's hope they don't use PCR testing. PCR tests are riddled with false positives. Research done by the New York Times in which they looked at PCR testing data in Massachusetts, New York, & Nevada concluded that up to 90% of people who tested positive carried barely any virus at all. Not enough to be considered infected or contagious, but still tested positive. That's because of the way PCR tests are designed. In fact, the Nobel Prize-winning inventor of the PCR test strongly objected to using it to test for viruses because it wasn't created for viruses at all. A PCR test is very black & white. Meaning, at best, it can detect the presence of a virus, but can't determine how much of the virus exists in a person. So even the smallest amounts that aren't considered "infected" and don't make the person contagious results in a positive PCR test. I don't typically rely on research done by the NYT, but it has been backed up by true experts. In fact, it was discovered that during the last four pandemics prior to COVID-19, the CDC & WHO were very concerned about the high false-positive rates from PCR tests and issued guidelines to try to limit them. The problem is, they've completely abandoned their own knowledge of this problem for COVID-19.

 

So I wouldn't want them to use PCR tests because anyone could get hit with a false positive and lose their cruise when they're perfectly fine.

 

nobody with any viral load should be boarding. There’s way too much at stake to try and pin down whether you are only possibly infectious vs very infectious.
 

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14 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

I believe you, but that is untenable in Florida.  

In Aruba there are 4 or 5 ships "sitting" 2 NCL and on Windfleet (?)  really sad

There are places I believe called Passport Labs (or something) cost $$$  for quick results.

Wondering if certain islands will accept us.

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9 hours ago, rjrice1 said:

In Aruba there are 4 or 5 ships "sitting" 2 NCL and on Windfleet (?)  really sad

There are places I believe called Passport Labs (or something) cost $$$  for quick results.

Wondering if certain islands will accept us.

Understand, the question will cone down to trust and belief that the new system will work.   That and they will be hungy enough to need the money.  

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13 hours ago, d9704011 said:

The word ‘insurance’ doesn’t appear in the so-called playbook.

It does in the the only applied playbook to date, the European plan.  Look foe the CDC to madate the “coverage” when the finally approve.  

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On 10/10/2020 at 7:18 PM, Organized Chaos said:

 

Let's hope they don't use PCR testing. PCR tests are riddled with false positives. Research done by the New York Times in which they looked at PCR testing data in Massachusetts, New York, & Nevada concluded that up to 90% of people who tested positive carried barely any virus at all. Not enough to be considered infected or contagious, but still tested positive. That's because of the way PCR tests are designed. In fact, the Nobel Prize-winning inventor of the PCR test strongly objected to using it to test for viruses because it wasn't created for viruses at all. A PCR test is very black & white. Meaning, at best, it can detect the presence of a virus, but can't determine how much of the virus exists in a person. So even the smallest amounts that aren't considered "infected" and don't make the person contagious results in a positive PCR test. I don't typically rely on research done by the NYT, but it has been backed up by true experts. In fact, it was discovered that during the last four pandemics prior to COVID-19, the CDC & WHO were very concerned about the high false-positive rates from PCR tests and issued guidelines to try to limit them. The problem is, they've completely abandoned their own knowledge of this problem for COVID-19.

 

So I wouldn't want them to use PCR tests because anyone could get hit with a false positive and lose their cruise when they're perfectly fine.

You are absolutely correct Organized Chaos!  The PCR is a process, not a test.  For anyone who disagrees, please read the attached link from the mouth of the person who created the PCR process.

 

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

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6 hours ago, buckeyefrank said:

You are absolutely correct Organized Chaos!  The PCR is a process, not a test.  For anyone who disagrees, please read the attached link from the mouth of the person who created the PCR process.

 

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

 

Unfortunately, the PCR test ( at least for right now) has become the standard 😞

 

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Carnival's web site simply says that "testing" should be expected under the "new normal".  I might point out that it does not specify COVID testing.  It could be nothing more than temperature tests when checking in.  Don't assume the extreme until we have more information.

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