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When cruising resumes it is likely that ships will not be sailing at full capacity.  I am very curious about the cruises that are already booked at a higher capacity than whatever limits RC decides on.  Any ideas or hints on how they will decide who sails and who gets bumped?  We have a family cruise booked for July 2021 and I am wondering if there is anything we can do to increase our chances of actually getting to sail.  Do you think they will give preference to those who booked earliest? To those who have paid in full earliest?  I'm concerned that they won't be able to accommodate everyone who has booked for next year.  

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I think at this point, no one really knows. I would think the "fairest" way would be by booking date. However, my business side says it should be highest cabin rate. I don't think other than those two variables who knows how they decide. Maybe they start and go every other cabin and its the luck of the draw. Who knows at this point. I am just hoping cruising is back sooner than later! 

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5 minutes ago, Laurie JJ said:

When cruising resumes it is likely that ships will not be sailing at full capacity.  I am very curious about the cruises that are already booked at a higher capacity than whatever limits RC decides on.  Any ideas or hints on how they will decide who sails and who gets bumped?  We have a family cruise booked for July 2021 and I am wondering if there is anything we can do to increase our chances of actually getting to sail.  Do you think they will give preference to those who booked earliest? To those who have paid in full earliest?  I'm concerned that they won't be able to accommodate everyone who has booked for next year.  

From what I’ve seen there isn’t a single ship that is sold at more than 50% capacity and most are far less than that if they are after final Payment.

 

capacity is not going to be an issue until they start sailing and get into sailings that have not passed final payment  and even then there will be few sailings where it’s an issue. 


once they start sailing It will be easy for Royall to cut capacity whenever they want. 

 

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No one knows what the criteria for capacity reduction will be.  I know that if it is room rate based, they will be losing lots of $ from my family.  We don't pay a lot to book a room due to club royale offers.  I expect they will need to consider total $ spent including casino and other onboard purchases or they will be losing quite a bit of income by ignoring the non-stateroom costs.  At least in my case, my contribution to their bottom line on past cruises far exceeds what I payed when booking. ( and likely what many others paid for their rooms).  I know that the 6 cancelled cruises this year for us, means we have saved quite a bit just awaiting the cruising to reopen. Still hoping that cruising starts back up.

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Oh no...then It may be us who are displaced on our Oct 2021 Freedom cruise to Canada/New England.

I booked a "great" rate for just the two of us back in Dec 2019 in the Ocean View Panoramic Suite (two bedroom)...hopefully they'll offer me a GS or OS to change to instead...but I'm really hoping to have this particular cabin. We'll see :classic_wink:

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4 hours ago, figment7 said:

I think at this point, no one really knows. I would think the "fairest" way would be by booking date. However, my business side says it should be highest cabin rate. I don't think other than those two variables who knows how they decide. Maybe they start and go every other cabin and its the luck of the draw. Who knows at this point. I am just hoping cruising is back sooner than later! 

So,,, they would bump a suite customer (paying thousands or tens of thousands of dollars per person) to save an inside room (paying tens or hundred dollars per person). Probably not. 
 

Bump a casino guest with a comped room who pays only taxes? Probably not. 
 

It is somewhere between with a magic formula. 
 

Ships have been oversold before and people are offered [generous] compensation for giving up their reservation. 

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I'm not sure if it will be a factor in the US, but for the Singapore sailings, inside and outside view rooms are apparently not allowed (all cabins should have a balcony), so if that were the case, maybe the inside and oceanview rooms will be the first to go? Just speculating here.

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Hello,

 

What I think is that, if not removed from sailing, people in the lower cabins close to the medical centre will be moved to another cabin and location to make room for passengers requiring isolation. After that, possibly those in inside and ocean view cabins with no direct access to fresh air, and after that anyone booked in a guarantee cabin not with any justification but simply because it would be an easier operation to complete.

 

Regards,

 

Cublet

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12 hours ago, Laurie JJ said:

When cruising resumes it is likely that ships will not be sailing at full capacity.  I am very curious about the cruises that are already booked at a higher capacity than whatever limits RC decides on.  Any ideas or hints on how they will decide who sails and who gets bumped?  We have a family cruise booked for July 2021 and I am wondering if there is anything we can do to increase our chances of actually getting to sail.  Do you think they will give preference to those who booked earliest? To those who have paid in full earliest?  I'm concerned that they won't be able to accommodate everyone who has booked for next year.  

The line starts behind us. 🍻

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I can't begin to imagine how RC will handle the issue of children who roam by themselves and do not follow the  "Safe Sailing" rules. We have all seen or experienced them, those youngsters running through hallways, knocking on doors, pressing every elevator button, throwing food in the Windjammer, etc. and now,  if left to their own devices sans parents, free to be "mask-less"  and too up close and personal. In the past, RC hasn't been great at keeping these children in check. I'm curious as to whether they will enforce their own rules.

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10 minutes ago, molly361 said:

Didn't they cancel all the Quantum sailings and then re-sell the new ones that are starting in December?

yes, but dot forget that it is just one ship.  I dont see them doing that in Florida.  Possibly on a couple ships but who knows how quickly they will go from 4 day cruises to 7 day cruises.  If they only do a month of short ones I doubt that you will see other ships cancelled and then resold

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I have 13 months to sit back and see what happens.  My next cruise is a L&S to November 2021 and I have no intentions of booking anything else until it becomes clear how everything is handled.

 

I will get the popcorn out, if when cruising starts up again, people are bumped for one reason or another.

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12 hours ago, Laurie JJ said:

We have a family cruise booked for July 2021 and I am wondering if there is anything we can do to increase our chances of actually getting to sail.  

 

Wear a mask, social distance, wash hands frequently, minimize contacts outside the household, strongly encourage everyone around you to do the same. In other words, do all you can to get the infection rate well below 1. If a vaccine becomes available, get inoculated.

 

I wouldn't worry so much about ship restriction. I suspect that any capacity limits will largely be self regulating. It is unlikely that anyone in a high risk category will book. At least not until there is some evidence that cruising is once again relatively safe. Many international passengers may wait to book until mandatory quarantine requirements upon return have been lifted.

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56 minutes ago, MaritimeR&R said:

I can't begin to imagine how RC will handle the issue of children who roam by themselves and do not follow the  "Safe Sailing" rules. We have all seen or experienced them, those youngsters running through hallways, knocking on doors, pressing every elevator button, throwing food in the Windjammer, etc. and now,  if left to their own devices sans parents, free to be "mask-less"  and too up close and personal. In the past, RC hasn't been great at keeping these children in check. I'm curious as to whether they will enforce their own rules.

I don't think you have to worry about that as "The Royal Promise" states that all crew and guests onboard must wear masks, no age distinctions. Won't be many families cruising as pretty hard to get kids (especially younger kids) to wear a mask. I have 2 under 3 and I wouldn't even try.....

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1 hour ago, broberts said:

I wouldn't worry so much about ship restriction. I suspect that any capacity limits will largely be self regulating. It is unlikely that anyone in a high risk category will book. At least not until there is some evidence that cruising is once again relatively safe. Many international passengers may wait to book until mandatory quarantine requirements upon return have been lifted.

I would like to agree with you but there will be people in the higher risk group that will book cruises. Because they believe they have a right to take a cruise, whenever they like, even if it's not safe for them to cruise. 

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1 hour ago, mek said:

I have 13 months to sit back and see what happens.  My next cruise is a L&S to November 2021 and I have no intentions of booking anything else until it becomes clear how everything is handled.

 

I will get the popcorn out, if when cruising starts up again, people are bumped for one reason or another.

We are like you. We are not booking anything until it is proven that cruising is safe again. 

We have too many family members in the high risk group to even consider cruising until it is safe again.

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No....the problem won't be kicking booked pax off the booking....but actually even trying to get enough pax to cruise on those first sailings.  IMHO....  From what I am seeing on the roll call threads...way more pax cancelling than staying with it.  

 

This is the line up waiting to board...what few there are of us anyway.  Well...not such a great line...but trying.  😉 

 

 

400 pregnant guinea pigs moved to SoCal from Humboldt County hoarding  situation - ABC7 San Francisco

 

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