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1 hour ago, broberts said:

 

Yes, you want to visit a country you have to follow its rules.

 

Probably a stunning surprise but most countries insist on visitors respecting all laws and regulatiins.

 

 

Do you smoke in restaurants, stores, and other public places? Do you drive under the influence of alcohol? Do you discharge weapons in a crowd? 

 

Refusing to follow pandemic mitigation protocols is a tyrannical action. In a free society people do not have a right to imperil lives.

Gosh, even Americans? Aren't Americans exempt due to the rights and freedoms as guaranteed by the US constitution? 

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2 hours ago, firefly333 said:

I think reality tv already found that out. Big brother, etc. Already exists on tv. 

Reality TV is anything but reality and I can say that as someone whose company was on Undercover boss twice.  I can just imagine the staged fights on a cruise ship. Then again I can probably already search that on YouTube.

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4 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I believe the CDC is trying too. The reason they want the cruise lines to contract and pay for healthcare facilities and lodging for needing medical care and/or quarantine.  I don’t believe this applies to existing US Medical Facilities. 
 

M8

Oh yes the CDC of course but I was referring to the CC members who are ready to jump on a ship at any cost some still believing that their ship will sail in December.

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7 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

Oh yes the CDC of course but I was referring to the CC members who are ready to jump on a ship at any cost some still believing that their ship will sail in December.

Well, as of this afternoon they can stop believing. Now we will be hearing from the January believers.

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23 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Your dentist wasted $50K, there is zero scientific evidence that UV ventilation does anything (nor is there any evidence the virus can live in or be spread by heating and cooling air handlers)

 

9 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

I never said UV light wasn’t effective, we have been using it in the OR and ER for about 30 years. The UV concentration able to be gained in a air handling system is not sufficient to kill any pathogen as compared to the amount of air volume generated. If it did hospitals built in the last 20 years or so would have been designed with this system as standard, instead they use portable machines that roll room to room and perform a UV sanitation cycle that precludes a human being even being inside the same room as the machine during its operation.  

My apologies, I guess I misunderstood "wasted $50K" and "zero scientific evidence that UV ventilation does anything".

 

Are you sure you are talking about "in-line Duct Sterilizers".  These are not the same as those used near the coils.  The EPA has tested them at various points and rated their efficiency against 2 bacteria and 1 bacterial virus.  

 

I have no knowledge of operating room, ER, or other health care uses.  They are fairly common in new commercial buildings, so I do think there would likely be some benefit in a dentist office. 

 

I am happy to change your score to 2 of 3.  

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12 minutes ago, Domino D said:

 

My apologies, I guess I misunderstood "wasted $50K" and "zero scientific evidence that UV ventilation does anything".

 

Are you sure you are talking about "in-line Duct Sterilizers".  These are not the same as those used near the coils.  The EPA has tested them at various points and rated their efficiency against 2 bacteria and 1 bacterial virus.  

 

I have no knowledge of operating room, ER, or other health care uses.  They are fairly common in new commercial buildings, so I do think there would likely be some benefit in a dentist office. 

 

I am happy to change your score to 2 of 3.  

Fair enough, I have little knowledge of commercial buildings

 

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26 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Well, as of this afternoon they can stop believing. Now we will be hearing from the January believers.

LOL ....I didn't know Royal folded on December.

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3 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Really?? You just drive across the border; not hard at all. 

Probably true, but on paper they have all kinds of restrictions.  Would be interesting to know how many people actually follow them.

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1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

Well, as of this afternoon they can stop believing. Now we will be hearing from the January believers.


Don’t stop believing..🎶😉

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On 11/1/2020 at 12:50 PM, SargassoPirate said:

I read the entire document and am not happy about the possibility of a shipwide lockdown if a single case of Covid pops up.  Not appealing at all.  I just emailed C&A and told them if this rule stays I will be cancelling a March cruise before the final payment is due in December. 

 

20 hours ago, fyree39 said:

I'm sure C&A will be devastated. 

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Gee, "fyree39" -- that was cruel (but, oh, so funny).

We are having a hard time deciding whether or not you should have withheld your sarcasm!

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18 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

Well, as of this afternoon they can stop believing. Now we will be hearing from the January believers.

I am a tingle thinking about the "I told it would be (insert month here)" threads that are to come on the day it happens. 

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3 hours ago, jg51 said:

 

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Gee, "fyree39" -- that was cruel (but, oh, so funny).

We are having a hard time deciding whether or not you should have withheld your sarcasm!

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No, it was too amusing not to share.

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