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1 minute ago, MeganGC1983 said:

With 50% capacity, it will be a bit easier. More show times, loungers/chairs blocked to sit every other one including tables. 

How many passengers does 50% translate to?

 

The first ship to go to the Caribbean had 53 passengers. It now has a passenger with Covid. How are the much larger ships going to avoid the virus?

 

https://thepointsguy.com/news/caribbean-cruise-covid-scare-seadream/

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33 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

How many passengers does 50% translate to?

 

The first ship to go to the Caribbean had 53 passengers. It now has a passenger with Covid. How are the much larger ships going to avoid the virus?

 

https://thepointsguy.com/news/caribbean-cruise-covid-scare-seadream/

🤷🏼‍♀️ I was just relaying the CDC’s information. 

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1 hour ago, ontheweb said:

How many passengers does 50% translate to?

 

The first ship to go to the Caribbean had 53 passengers. It now has a passenger with Covid. How are the much larger ships going to avoid the virus?

 

https://thepointsguy.com/news/caribbean-cruise-covid-scare-seadream/

see,  even a free cruise--  stuck in the cabin until released-  How fun is that?    allthe people who say they want to be a test passenger-  look how long those princess cruisers were stuck in their cabins/

 

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3 hours ago, serene56 said:

see,  even a free cruise--  stuck in the cabin until released-  How fun is that?    allthe people who say they want to be a test passenger-  look how long those princess cruisers were stuck in their cabins/

 

Not sure what this has to do with trial cruises.  Maybe they will put infected people on the cruise?😎

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4 hours ago, ontheweb said:

How many passengers does 50% translate to?

 

The first ship to go to the Caribbean had 53 passengers. It now has a passenger with Covid. How are the much larger ships going to avoid the virus?

 

https://thepointsguy.com/news/caribbean-cruise-covid-scare-seadream/

Do we know how the passenger tested positive?   was the 50% question rhetorical?

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35 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Do we know how the passenger tested positive?   was the 50% question rhetorical?

According to the articles, the passenger was not feeling well and asked to be tested.

 

Yes, I guess it could be less than 50%, but tell me what other cruise ship is going to sail with only 53 passengers. No matter what % they take, it's going to be considerably more than 53 passengers.

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1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said:

Not sure what this has to do with trial cruises.  Maybe they will put infected people on the cruise?😎

Jimbo the SeaDream had people tested twice prior to boarding, strict protocols in place to achieve a safe bubble with only 53 passengers, distancing, mandatory masks, hand sanitizer was said to be everywhere.

 

It was a trial cruise to examine and test all these safety protocols, in what both TPG and CC said was the 1st resumed Caribbean sailing.  One passenger felt sick, so he/she got tested and showed positive.

 

I can't see a mass market line like Carnival that has a history of non uniform regulation enforcement doing better than this trial.

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14 hours ago, ontheweb said:

According to the articles, the passenger was not feeling well and asked to be tested.

 

Yes, I guess it could be less than 50%, but tell me what other cruise ship is going to sail with only 53 passengers. No matter what % they take, it's going to be considerably more than 53 passengers.

I guess my point is that it can happen anywhere, at anytime, to anyone.  The fact it happened to a ship with 53 cruisers has no relevance to whether it would happen or not on another ship, or to how many people.  The virus is going to be with us for a while.  We can deal with it and make decisions on what we do and what our life experiences are, or live in a bubble,

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13 hours ago, evandbob said:

Jimbo the SeaDream had people tested twice prior to boarding, strict protocols in place to achieve a safe bubble with only 53 passengers, distancing, mandatory masks, hand sanitizer was said to be everywhere.

 

It was a trial cruise to examine and test all these safety protocols, in what both TPG and CC said was the 1st resumed Caribbean sailing.  One passenger felt sick, so he/she got tested and showed positive.

 

I can't see a mass market line like Carnival that has a history of non uniform regulation enforcement doing better than this trial.

I am nor surprised that is what you feel.  When are you cruising again?  Did the trial fail or pass?  I think you are missing the point.

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14 hours ago, evandbob said:

Jimbo the SeaDream had people tested twice prior to boarding, strict protocols in place to achieve a safe bubble with only 53 passengers, distancing, mandatory masks, hand sanitizer was said to be everywhere.

 

From the sounds of it masks were not mandatory " As everyone had tested negative"

 

From the sounds of it these were not paying guests but invited guests  Bloggers and Cruise Critic writers.

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15 minutes ago, shof515 said:

to apply to be a volunteer for these test cruises, Royal is taking applications

 

https://cruisesimulationform.questionpro.com/a/TakeSurvey?tt=wu0p%2B3tEjZK5RCNGxsIbHA%3D%3D&lcfpn=false

The blog lists the requirements.  I hope they can get enough volunteers when they are ready because it sounds like the first step to moving forward with cruising.

 

https://www.*****.com/2020/11/12/heres-how-sign-be-volunteer-royal-caribbean-test-cruise


 

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2 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

I am nor surprised that is what you feel.  When are you cruising again?  Did the trial fail or pass?  I think you are missing the point.

I have a Celebrity Edge cruise booked for March, 2021, 4 months from now.  We booked an infinite view mid ship balcony at a casino fare of $149pp, and are fully prepared to reschedule.

 

Cruising may be your lifeblood and avocation, but for us, it's simply a way to escape and relax. We've done over 50 so far, and we also like land vacations as well.  But if the indisputable facts of the virus dictate that we forego these voluntary pleasures, it's not a life crusher for us.

 

America is experiencing an accelerating surge in cases of COVID, contrary to the claims of some that it was going away after the election.  With only 53 passengers and strict protocols and policies in place, COVID still showed up on a cruise ship.  What point am I missing?

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42 minutes ago, evandbob said:

 

America is experiencing an accelerating surge in cases of COVID, contrary to the claims of some that it was going away after the election.  With only 53 passengers and strict protocols and policies in place, COVID still showed up on a cruise ship.  What point am I missing?

You are not missing the point. But, there are others who are in denial.

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Not in a million years. There would still be "test" passengers that tested negative upon initial boarding and a few days later begin to show symptoms. Stop rushing the process and allow the Medical experts experts to provide their valuable input. Oh and let's all listen to them please.   

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Can't link up the page in Firefox or Edge.  But my understanding is that these test cruises are not necessarily as relaxing as a regular cruise.  Supposedly they drill over and over so that crews have practice in containment and testing and other necessary protocols.

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3 hours ago, crewsweeper said:

Can't link up the page in Firefox or Edge.  But my understanding is that these test cruises are not necessarily as relaxing as a regular cruise.  Supposedly they drill over and over so that crews have practice in containment and testing and other necessary protocols.

Sort of contradicts all those who say the crew do not need drills including passengers so just have the passengers watch (or at least turn on) the muster drill on their cabin's television.

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10 hours ago, evandbob said:

I have a Celebrity Edge cruise booked for March, 2021, 4 months from now.  We booked an infinite view mid ship balcony at a casino fare of $149pp, and are fully prepared to reschedule.

 

Cruising may be your lifeblood and avocation, but for us, it's simply a way to escape and relax. We've done over 50 so far, and we also like land vacations as well.  But if the indisputable facts of the virus dictate that we forego these voluntary pleasures, it's not a life crusher for us.

 

America is experiencing an accelerating surge in cases of COVID, contrary to the claims of some that it was going away after the election.  With only 53 passengers and strict protocols and policies in place, COVID still showed up on a cruise ship.  What point am I missing?

How many people does it take for them to have had success?  All of them?  Which other part of our society is virus free?  Good deal on the casino rate....  The virus will continue until it does not anymore.  No politician or scientist has made any difference.  How we live our lives is what matters.  IF it stays for 10 years will you feel the same way about cruising?

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58 minutes ago, RWolver672 said:

 

Personally, I'd rather live in a bubble than die on a ventilator.  

 

 

46 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

Are those really the only realistic choices?

They are not the only choices and to my friends post....bingo

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1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said:

 

They are not the only choices and to my friends post....bingo

I was also saying that there were choices in between living in a bubble forever and dying a painful death. I'm sorry if I did not get my point across. We agree on this.

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11 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

How many people does it take for them to have had success?  All of them?  Which other part of our society is virus free?  Good deal on the casino rate....  The virus will continue until it does not anymore.  No politician or scientist has made any difference.  How we live our lives is what matters.  IF it stays for 10 years will you feel the same way about cruising?

Which other part of our society is contained on a ship for up to 7 days?

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We are booked, new,  for January 24, 2021. I'd happily go out earlier as part of a volunteer cruise.  I don't expect ports or ask the usual while on a volunteer cruise.  I'd happily do it just to help Carnival meet the requirements to open a ship for the next step,  paid cruises.  We are both platinum with Carnival and have been on Norwegian,  Holland America, and MSC. We recently traveled across the country on a two month vacation without fear and have contracted nothing. Red Cross blood donations show no antibodies.  We did ask to be considered as volunteers with Carnival. All we have heard is that Carnival employees will be considered first.  So,  to answer the original question,  I would be happy to volunteer! 

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