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3 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

The further a port is from the Bahamas the more the cruise will cost. 

Very true. But currently Carnival is operating short cruises from Charleston to the Bahamas year round, and they do charge more than similar itineraries from Port Canaveral, Miami etc. People gladly pay a premium for the convenience of a shorter drive. 

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20 hours ago, Tapi said:

Very true. But currently Carnival is operating short cruises from Charleston to the Bahamas year round, and they do charge more than similar itineraries from Port Canaveral, Miami etc. People gladly pay a premium for the convenience of a shorter drive. 

So why would BPCL want the competition? None in West Palm. The only game in town.

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1 minute ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

So why would BPCL want the competition? None in West Palm. The only game in town.

I'm in favor of BPCL remaining in a market where they have little to no competition, I did get on a tangent about other ports of embarkation on my previous posts, but I do believe that BPCL has a better chance of survival if they remain in WPB, under the radar of the big cruise lines, and not encroaching in their markets. 

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Long term Carnival may abandon Jacksonville. For BPCL to go there it would require them to have a ship that meets the height restrictions at Jaxport, Carnival retiring Carnival Ecstasy, and for a ship of similar size (or smaller) to become available - I'm thinking one of the smaller AIDA ships if one is available come 2022 or later.

 

The only catch is there are a few ships Carnival could still rotate into Jacksonville, but Tampa and Baltimore would be competing for those as well.

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ALL ships are for sale, if the right offer comes along.  Posting a ship on a website like this means nothing – sometimes the owner doesn't even know about the posting.  And some of the posted ships have already been sold but are still listed.

 

As far as BPCL is concerned, if someone would pay that price for Classica they should definitely take it – because there are lots of newer ships that are (or will be soon) available and Classica is at (or near) her EOL date for US waters.  Selling both their ships at this time means nothing because no ships are sailing.  This is actually a great opportunity for BPCL to update their fleet dramatically at little cost [subject to the proviso that has been pointed up above that the pier at West Palm has a limited length].

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1 hour ago, gkbiiii said:

Grand Classica would make a great casino hotel.

So would have Trump's casino in Atlantic City, but it is due to be demolished in a matter of days.  It stands to reason that the upkeep on a vessel in the water will be far higher than the upkeep of a building on dry land.

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5 hours ago, gkbiiii said:

Grand Classica would make a great casino hotel.

 

An interesting idea since some previous cruise ships have found employment in Hong Kong and its region as casino ships.  Yet, is the time ripe for someone/company/etc. to make such an investment?  

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3 hours ago, rkacruiser said:

 

An interesting idea since some previous cruise ships have found employment in Hong Kong and its region as casino ships.  Yet, is the time ripe for someone/company/etc. to make such an investment?  

Too late for the Mississippi loophole that allowed you to build a lake around a ship and call it a floating casino.  The tax revenue was too important, so before those old wrecks rusted out completely they loosened the law.

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Here is some positive news (note: the CDC has 'green listed' the majority of cruise ships sailing from US ports). This listing does not necessarily mean that cruising will recommence soon .

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I received an update recently from the cruise line. They are all well and good and will start to resume sailings soon.

 

As we move closer to resumption of sailing in the next few months, we wanted to provide a status update as to our plans. 

  

The situation with COVID is very fluid and seemingly changes daily. We are following the direction of CDC and are in communication with them every week to better align and understand the requirements. You may recall that last year Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line was the first to earn ‘green light’ status for our crew. Those initiatives remain in place and we are following any and all new requirements put in place by CDC. 

  

Our business model remains the same, offering short cruises to a familiar destination (Grand Bahama), which is close to home. We believe this model will only further resonate with consumers during the age of COVID. . 

  

We are building toward a resumption of sailing just as soon as we can and when it is safe to do so. It is difficult to plan in this fluid environment, however behind the scenes we are using the time to upgrade our website and booking engine. The new website will have a more refined look and will be more user-friendly. The new booking engine will deliver a better user experience and will include the capability to book Cruise & Stay online.   

  

We look forward to working with you again soon! As always, our commitment to the travel advisor community remains unwavering. 

Please feel free to reach out to us by replying to this email or at sales@cruisebp.com with any questions, ideas or concerns you may have. 

  

Best Regards,     

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On 12/28/2020 at 10:26 PM, Host Jazzbeau said:

because there are lots of newer ships that are (or will be soon) available and Classica is at (or near) her EOL date for US waters.

What EOL (I'm assuming you mean End of Life?) date are you referring to? There is no EOL "for US waters" that I'm aware of, for any ship.  

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37 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

What EOL (I'm assuming you mean End of Life?) date are you referring to? There is no EOL "for US waters" that I'm aware of, for any ship.  

 

I wasn't referring to a legal term, just my opinion that this ship is so old that it is due to move down market to one of the real bottom-feeder cruise lines in some other part of the world.  This is a great time for a cruise line like BPCL to reduce the age of their fleet at rock bottom prices.

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48 minutes ago, Host Jazzbeau said:

 

I wasn't referring to a legal term, just my opinion that this ship is so old that it is due to move down market to one of the real bottom-feeder cruise lines in some other part of the world.  This is a great time for a cruise line like BPCL to reduce the age of their fleet at rock bottom prices.

Ah.  Marketwise, yes, the ship could be showing its age in comparison to other lines, and have a harder time drawing passengers.  Not real familiar with their balance sheet, so don't know if they could swing even a relatively newer ship.  Not sure that ships are actually going for "rock bottom" prices (haven't seen what ships have sold for recently), and also there is the question of matching the ship to BPCL's demographic and itineraries.

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I tried calling BPCL today and their phone is disconnected. If anyone knows anything else about how they are doing business I’d really like to know what is going on. Thanks 

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23 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

I received an update recently from the cruise line. They are all well and good and will start to resume sailings soon.

 

As we move closer to resumption of sailing in the next few months, we wanted to provide a status update as to our plans. 

  

The situation with COVID is very fluid and seemingly changes daily. We are following the direction of CDC and are in communication with them every week to better align and understand the requirements. You may recall that last year Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line was the first to earn ‘green light’ status for our crew. Those initiatives remain in place and we are following any and all new requirements put in place by CDC. 

  

Our business model remains the same, offering short cruises to a familiar destination (Grand Bahama), which is close to home. We believe this model will only further resonate with consumers during the age of COVID. . 

  

We are building toward a resumption of sailing just as soon as we can and when it is safe to do so. It is difficult to plan in this fluid environment, however behind the scenes we are using the time to upgrade our website and booking engine. The new website will have a more refined look and will be more user-friendly. The new booking engine will deliver a better user experience and will include the capability to book Cruise & Stay online.   

  

We look forward to working with you again soon! As always, our commitment to the travel advisor community remains unwavering. 

Please feel free to reach out to us by replying to this email or at sales@cruisebp.com with any questions, ideas or concerns you may have. 

  

Best Regards,     

If that is true, how come their phone is disconnected?

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On 2/1/2021 at 6:34 PM, mainelycruising said:

This listing does not necessarily mean that cruising will recommence soon

BPCL's ships were the first to be green listed on that site more than 8 months ago.

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