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On 1/24/2021 at 7:11 AM, Canberra601 said:

The rollout of the vaccine is yet to commence here in the Philippines, and when it does start it will likely be some time before a significant majority of the population are vaccinated.  Some projections are that this could be sometime in 2023.  This is similar to many other "developing" countries.  I wonder what the impact of this will be on the ports that can be included in cruises even after the majority of the population of "developed" countries are vaccinated.

 

Excellent observation.

 

The question of host country inoculations and vaccination levels is a serious issue for cruise operators. Allowing 5,000 people to cascade down the gangway and into your population is a classic public health challenge.

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6 minutes ago, Cienfuegos said:

The question of host country inoculations and vaccination levels is a serious issue for cruise operators. Allowing 5,000 people to cascade down the gangway and into your population is a classic public health challenge.

Absolutely is a huge concern. 

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Here is the challenge. If the US achieves the stated goal of 100 million shots in 100 days and maintains a level of 1 million shots a day, herd immunity (75%)  wont be reached in April 2022. We need more shots! 

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/VACCINE-CALCULATOR/rlgvdgewwpo/

 

 

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There are a number of hopeful signs on several vaccine fronts. Biontech has said it is prepared for a massive ramp up of its vaccine. I believe they said a billion doses for the year which begins in April.  Johnson & Johnson's single dose vaccine may be submitted for emergency use authorization as early as next week.   India has made vaccine development and distribution a major priority.

 

The dual issues of vaccinating a significant portion of the world's population, and achieving world herd immunity may be closer to resolution than the common wisdom currently anticipates.

 

 

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21 hours ago, Cienfuegos said:

Johnson & Johnson's single dose vaccine may be submitted for emergency use authorization as early as next week.

Not entirely thrilled with intial reports on this, since, if I'm correct, predicted effectiveness is only like around 66%?  The idea of single shot is certainly appealing though. 

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57 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said:

Not entirely thrilled with intial reports on this, since, if I'm correct, predicted effectiveness is only like around 66%?  The idea of single shot is certainly appealing though. 

True but its hospitalization and death rate is 0. People who get COVID only have mild symptoms. I”ll take it, actually any shot at this point! Waiting to be eligible.

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On 12/19/2020 at 9:19 AM, tipsygirl said:

When the virus was in early stages  we moved the funds for our cancelled Viking river cruise to a June 2021 ocean cruise in Northern Europe. While we accept that we may not be able to take this trip we are hopeful, and will wait as long as possible before cancelling if needed. We are ready to get the vaccine as soon as it is available. Since we are in the "elderly" group and distribution is moving fairly quickly in our area we are anticipating having the vaccine in time to develop sufficient immunity to feel safe to travel. But of course whether the cruise will happen depends on conditions in Europe, not just our readiness to travel. We will see how things develop.

We are fortunate we are healthy and not impacted financially by the virus. We don't wish to take chances with  our health, but we will so happy when we can travel again...safely.

The rollout of vaccines in our area has been slower and more difficult than expected. It has speeded up considerably in the last 2 weeks, with more vaccine available and signup systems that are easier to navigate. We just got our firsts shots of the Pfizer vaccine, and have appointments for the second. But many in are area are still having difficulty getting on the waiting list for shots.  This, combined with Europe’s progress on vaccinations also being slow, and even more uncertainty about getting to and from Europe, have caused us to move all 3 of our planned European trips, including the June Viking cruise, to 2022. We are optimistic that conditions will improve, but have decided to wait and watch. 

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The really good news that gives me hope is the steep drop of COVID in Israel.  62% of the public has been vaccinated. COVID has seen a 50% drop. The shots work!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel/israel-says-vaccine-has-almost-halved-covid-cases-among-over-60s-idUSKBN2A4283

RB

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19 hours ago, Cienfuegos said:

but they will drive 700 miles instead.

....and yet statistics have always shown flying to be safer. It's just that when there is an airline incident, your chances of survival aren't so good. That being said, our favorite mode of travel is still by car. 

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On 2/7/2021 at 4:01 PM, Ragnar Danneskjold said:

More good vaccine news, especially in regards to crew vaccinations:

Had not heard of this one yet - definitely good news!  How are those pool plans coming along???

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5 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said:

Had not heard of this one yet - definitely good news!  How are those pool plans coming along???


Haha, thanks for remembering!  Architect in the process of printing detailed drawings for association and city approval.  Should have those submitted in a few days 🙂

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11 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said:


Haha, thanks for remembering!  Architect in the process of printing detailed drawings for association and city approval.  Should have those submitted in a few days 🙂

Good thing you have a big house.  Sounds as though quite a few of us will be showing up for the unveiling.😎

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Even more optimistic on Cruising before the end of 2021.  We just  received our 2nd dose of the Moderna vaccine. In a month I will think about eating in some of our favorite restaurants. Know  they will welcome the business.

Booked on VO  Bali to Sydney for end of Nov 2021.

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Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers.

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1 hour ago, deec said:

Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers.

“Aye, there’s the rub” !

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18 hours ago, deec said:

Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers.

We are on the Jan 8, 2022 sailing to South America.  We are doubtful that the sailing will happen.  We already had a South  America sailing cancelled this year.  

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1 hour ago, Rami077 said:

We are on the Jan 8, 2022 sailing to South America.  We are doubtful that the sailing will happen.  We already had a South  America sailing cancelled this year.  

Ours follows yours.  I am also doubtful that ours will sail.  Chance is 50/50, even if US achieves enough percentage of vaccinations for herd immunity. Bigger questions are situation in South America and duration of our vaccine protection.

Wonder how early Viking cancelled your previous cruise and if Viking compensated enough for you to re-schedule the cruise?  When we booked ours, we had the July 4 sale (which is much better than the Explorers’ sale of free air).  Thus, it will most likely cost us more to rebook.

If Viking cancels your cruise again, will you rebook the same cruise?

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1 hour ago, dreamercruise said:

duration of our vaccine protection.

This is a HUGE item...probably the most critical of all. My worry is that once people get the 2nd dose of a vaccine that, for (probably too) many people, they'll think it's "party time" and all is good again....

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