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On 12/10/2020 at 1:49 PM, ace2542 said:

Then I suspect both you and I will never cruise again as masks will be required for ever and ever as they also prevents colds, flu, noro (can't touch your face if you are wearing a mask) and bronchitis caused by cold and flu though I think that comes later as well as Covid.

 

Of course masks don't work if 100% of Americans or 98% or whatever percent of americans above the age of 5 wearing mask would PREVENT this they would have been pretty quick to say so. They haven't. They have not said it PREVENTS. You can REDUCE but not PREVENT.

 

On 12/10/2020 at 1:53 PM, ace2542 said:

Thank you. Since most people won't be seriously effected by this there is no point to having the vaccine if you have the wear the mask for the rest of your life despite having it.  Isn't the point not to have to do it. You may as well just wear the mask and not bother with the vaccine.

 

But ships will do what they want. Question. At the start of all this what was this whole thing with RCL and NCL as well I think not allowing certain countries to cruise and being accused of being racist for it? Was that their decision or a government decision.

 

On 12/10/2020 at 1:57 PM, ace2542 said:

I don't think he knows but the answer is forever and a day because the CDC wants to destroy the industry. The problem the industry will have is it might be the only vaccination type which requires masks forever. Others won't and cruising will lose big time.

 

On 12/10/2020 at 1:59 PM, ace2542 said:

Tell me Chris do they expect the crew like you 6 or however many in a cabin to wear a mask in your sleep? Because you could easily infect the other 5. And will passengers be expected to wear them in their sleep?

There should be some sort of test one has to pass before they can post on CC

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On 12/11/2020 at 4:36 PM, pcur said:

 

I can only relate our experiences:  we have semi or completely sheltered in place since March 2020, depending on the public health policies.  We have an air purifier now, and we wear masks when we are outside the house. 

 

I have had some congestion, but I think it's probably allergies, and the air purifier has helped that.  No flu, no serious colds, no nothing since March.  So, I agree that masking, social distancing, and avoiding places with lots of people has made a difference for us.

 

On 12/11/2020 at 5:00 PM, ace2542 said:

I have not been sick since March 17th  I have had nothing for 9 months, not a cough, not a soar throat, cold, flu or a chest infection. Nothing. And I have been out and about every day. Ok we are a bit rural. What I do is mask in the store and much thicker coat pulled over my nose and mouth when outside walking in public and mask off. And I did not get the flu jab this year or last year. So either Covid has killed all this stuff or masks have killed it off. But then again masks don't work if masks worked we would not have these death tolls. How do you explain masks, no flu and mass covid deaths then?

I have worked in a hospital/office setting nearly everyday since mid February. I have gone to dine in restaurants, have flown a dozen or so times, attended 2 World Series games, gone to a few Dallas Cowboy games, had 20 people to the house for Thanksgiving and I haven’t had as much as a sniffle

either. 

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1 minute ago, ace2542 said:

Tut tut tut tut . A potential superspreader event there! 😮😮 

Yet here we are 17 days later and everyone perfectly healthy. 
 

The point being, it is absolutely not a necessity to lock yourself in a cave to be safe; you are actually doing more harm than good in many instances; use the common sense the good Lord blessed you with (hopefully). 
 

The problem is common sense isn’t always common. 

 

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I booked our first Europe cruise for May 2022 for my daughter's high school graduation.  I hope we do not have to wear masks by then (but could probably manage since we would be off the ship most of the time)  However, if the restriction to only book cruise line excursions is NOT gone by then, I will be cancelling.  

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4 hours ago, ace2542 said:

What about people who get Covid in the future suing the cruise line the way these all inclusive resorts in Egypt get sued. Okay proving where you caught it might be a problem. And as long as the CDC says that 1 case means the whole ship locks down putting the next cruise at risk which it would. Masks will be worn and the CDC might say that forever.

Can't sue if you sign a wavier and release cruise line from all COVID related liabilities before you board.

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31 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Yet here we are 17 days later and everyone perfectly healthy. 
 

The point being, it is absolutely not a necessity to lock yourself in a cave to be safe; you are actually doing more harm than good in many instances; use the common sense the good Lord blessed you with (hopefully). 
 

The problem is common sense isn’t always common. 

 

 Yes perhaps for a lot of people things could have been handled differently with different approaches. Luckily for you nothing happened because you have might have faced criminal charges? I am surprised no one organising these events particularly the ones aimed at catching the outbreak haven't faced really serious charges.

 

One thing I really love about America is your criminal justice system and the sentences in particular. I have lived and work in US twice the first time summer 03 when that trial was on in Texas on court tv the woman who hit the guy driving home and he got stuck in windshield of the car impaled on the glass and she let him die. She got like 60 years or something. Brilliant! 

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20 minutes ago, sfaaa said:

Can't sue if you sign a wavier and release cruise line from all COVID related liabilities before you board.

And no signature no boarding of course. Though that wording will probably be written into the health questionnaire.

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2 hours ago, jean87510 said:

Im of the opinion that one night/show is enough with these shows.  Id rather see movies, novelty acts, comedy, cover bands...then the so called Broadway shows.  I know I'm in the minority but I would much rather watch a first run movie that can air all day in theater then the shows.  And honestly, I never see these shows crowded.  Its the comedy or ventriloquist or other novelty that always looks filled.  

I agree. Those Broadway shows are so played out. How many times do I need to see the same shows that hit Broadway 40 plus years ago and have been made into movies that are 30 plus yrs old. I Honestly can't believe they made Cat's into a movie last year.  

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7 hours ago, CruiseBride926 said:

I will gladly wear a mask. As an added bonus it will also ensure that I remember to reapply sunscreen on my face because that’s definitely not a tan like I’d like to get.

Well that won't help I use 2 layers of sunscreen a spray on and cream and I have tan lines. 

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2 hours ago, ace2542 said:

Tut tut tut tut . A potential superspreader event there! 😮😮 

There' an Eeyore in every crowd.  Aside from running around pantless, there are folks with a more positive outlook out there, and I am one of them.

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6 hours ago, ace2542 said:

What about people who get Covid in the future suing the cruise line the way these all inclusive resorts in Egypt get sued. Okay proving where you caught it might be a problem. And as long as the CDC says that 1 case means the whole ship locks down putting the next cruise at risk which it would. Masks will be worn and the CDC might say that forever.

😎 couldn't find the rolly eyed emoji. 

Think what you will but that is never going to happen.  A year, maybe two, but forever?  Nope.  

 

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2 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Yet here we are 17 days later and everyone perfectly healthy. 
 

The point being, it is absolutely not a necessity to lock yourself in a cave to be safe; you are actually doing more harm than good in many instances; use the common sense the good Lord blessed you with (hopefully). 
 

The problem is common sense isn’t always common. 

 

 

Unless you had a severe case of pneumonia earlier this year that took several months to finally feel normal, and your husband has an underlying condition.  Then, you don't take chances and you don't go into crowded situations.

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35 minutes ago, pcur said:

 

Unless you had a severe case of pneumonia earlier this year that took several months to finally feel normal, and your husband has an underlying condition.  Then, you don't take chances and you don't go into crowded situations.

Choice- the beauty of being an American.  I am glad you are back to feeling well

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2 hours ago, ace2542 said:

 Yes perhaps for a lot of people things could have been handled differently with different approaches. Luckily for you nothing happened because you have might have faced criminal charges? I am surprised no one organising these events particularly the ones aimed at catching the outbreak haven't faced really serious charges.

 

One thing I really love about America is your criminal justice system and the sentences in particular. I have lived and work in US twice the first time summer 03 when that trial was on in Texas on court tv the woman who hit the guy driving home and he got stuck in windshield of the car impaled on the glass and she let him die. She got like 60 years or something. Brilliant! 

Absolutely ridiculous, In America we can do what we want in the privacy of our homes.

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I agree with the OP- Mask will be mandatory at least the next year. I have no problem cruising with a mask- in fact I took two cruises this year- masks of course were mandatory.

TUI Cruises is sailing since July without a hitch- even though they are now sailing with only one ship, since Covid hit Europe in the second wave.

I did a four night cruise out of Germany in July and a 7 night cruise in October - everybody doned their masks when walking the ship - inside. On the outer decks only when social distancing could be adhered.

Walking into a bar, restaurant.. etc. you wear your mask and take it off when seated. NO problem at all. It is just like everyday life now.

Did I enjoy my " Mask- cruises" ? Yes I did- big time- very much- loved it.

The next cruise line i try is MSC- Yacht Club- maybe in March- when things here have calmed down a bit. As of Dec. 16th our country is going into a very strict lock down again- as in March.

 

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1 hour ago, pcur said:

 

Unless you had a severe case of pneumonia earlier this year that took several months to finally feel normal, and your husband has an underlying condition.  Then, you don't take chances and you don't go into crowded situations.

 

I still think you had early Covid in February. Look what happened in New Orleans and with Majesty right after we were there. :classic_smile:

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We will wear the masks and enjoy our time aboard.  I think some people just detest being told what to do and when to do it, especially if they are paying -- I get that.  "For me," wearing a mask is not a problem.  I am more concerned about being limited to the ship's shore excursions.   If the prices are reasonable -- no problem.  If they hike the prices, then I am going to be aggravated, but will still cruise.

 

I do enjoy being able to discern when a person is truly smiling behind the mask.  There is a distinct difference in a true smile; it shows in your eyes and facial movement.  

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10 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Absolutely ridiculous, In America we can do what we want in the privacy of our homes.

I am sure you can but I am surprised there hasn't been at least the threat of it. Considering they charge and convict people in new york for murder for lying to get a driving licence and having a seizure at the wheel killing 2 british tourists in the process.  Same thing happen in Glasgow Scotland a few years back and no charges got bought despite the fitness of the drive to drive he had blackouts and may have lied to his employers.  I have also heard stories of deaths due to religious beliefs and these believing parents refusing to give their daughter insulin for diabetes leading to death. But hey I do love your laws and sentencing. I really do.

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9 hours ago, Germancruiser said:

I agree with the OP- Mask will be mandatory at least the next year. I have no problem cruising with a mask- in fact I took two cruises this year- masks of course were mandatory.

TUI Cruises is sailing since July without a hitch- even though they are now sailing with only one ship, since Covid hit Europe in the second wave.

I did a four night cruise out of Germany in July and a 7 night cruise in October - everybody doned their masks when walking the ship - inside. On the outer decks only when social distancing could be adhered.

Walking into a bar, restaurant.. etc. you wear your mask and take it off when seated. NO problem at all. It is just like everyday life now.

Did I enjoy my " Mask- cruises" ? Yes I did- big time- very much- loved it.

The next cruise line i try is MSC- Yacht Club- maybe in March- when things here have calmed down a bit. As of Dec. 16th our country is going into a very strict lock down again- as in March.

 

How are your death tolls so low compared to the UK?

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11 hours ago, tinkertwo said:

😎 couldn't find the rolly eyed emoji. 

Think what you will but that is never going to happen.  A year, maybe two, but forever?  Nope.  

 

Yeah but does the CDC want to destroy the majority non American employing, petri dish sailing, heavily polluting cruise industry? That is the question.

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2 hours ago, ace2542 said:

I am sure you can but I am surprised there hasn't been at least the threat of it. Considering they charge and convict people in new york for murder for lying to get a driving licence and having a seizure at the wheel killing 2 british tourists in the process.  Same thing happen in Glasgow Scotland a few years back and no charges got bought despite the fitness of the drive to drive he had blackouts and may have lied to his employers.  I have also heard stories of deaths due to religious beliefs and these believing parents refusing to give their daughter insulin for diabetes leading to death. But hey I do love your laws and sentencing. I really do.

I think you need to stop reading articles on the internet 

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13 hours ago, Coralc said:

 

I still think you had early Covid in February. Look what happened in New Orleans and with Majesty right after we were there. :classic_smile:

I do, too, and it makes me feel very guilty that I might have spread it.  But, as you know I was coughing inside my clothing, anyway, to not spread what I had.  I looked like a turtle half the time!  😁

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