Pfizer vaccine formally approved in Oz

[GUT2407]

16 minutes ago, BRANDEE said:

May I ask what travelling cooling  pack you use for your weekly diabetes shots when traveling.  I am always looking for something new and improved.  I use FRIO cooling products, but the Cooling pack is too small for my "stuff" when we do a vacation over 3 weeks.   FRIO is TSA approved, but lately I still have to open it up to the security agents.  Thanks!!

I use the Medactive, you just need to keep the cooling pouch damp, about every 3 to 5  days, I have two one for a single pen I keep my pain whistle refills in it and a larger one that holds four pens, they also do larger ones.

 

https://www.medactiv.com.au/diabetic-bags/allproducts/

 

wow, had no reason to look at their site for a while, a few new products there.

 

[GUT2407]

2 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

I use the Medactive, you just need to keep the cooling pouch damp, about every 3 to 5  days, I have two one for a single pen I keep my pain whistle refills in it and a larger one that holds four pens, they also do larger ones.

 

https://www.medactiv.com.au/diabetic-bags/allproducts/

 

wow, had no reason to look at their site for a while, a few new products there.

 

I also bought a second pad for the larger one as when travelling I like to let it fully dry before reusing.

[lyndarra]

1 hour ago, LittleFish1976 said:

 

Maybe it depends on whether the injection has to just go under the skin or into the muscle. I used to inject our old dog twice a day for his diabetes but that was just sub-dermal. I know that the covid vaccines have the be in the deltoid muscle which would not be very comfortable if doing to oneself. Still, if it was the only way I could get the covid vaccine, I would do it.

 

I hope you get relief from your pain with the shots you have - chronic severe pain is no joke.

Sub-dermal is possible for cats and dogs as their skin is independent of the flesh below, unlike us. Our skin is attached to flesh, fat etc.. I had a Zoster shot a week ago which was injected into the fatty part of my upper am, not into the muscle as per normal. I don't usually have any side effects with injections but this gave me a sore upper arm for a few days.

[BRANDEE]

11 hours ago, GUT2407 said:

I use the Medactive, you just need to keep the cooling pouch damp, about every 3 to 5  days, I have two one for a single pen I keep my pain whistle refills in it and a larger one that holds four pens, they also do larger ones.

 

https://www.medactiv.com.au/diabetic-bags/allproducts/

 

wow, had no reason to look at their site for a while, a few new products there.

 

Thanks, some interesting new items. 😊

[GUT2407]

14 hours ago, lyndarra said:

Sub-dermal is possible for cats and dogs as their skin is independent of the flesh below, unlike us. Our skin is attached to flesh, fat etc.. I had a Zoster shot a week ago which was injected into the fatty part of my upper am, not into the muscle as per normal. I don't usually have any side effects with injections but this gave me a sore upper arm for a few days.

Zoster is infamous for a sore arm.

[GUT2407]

One doctor gave me a shot for osteoporosis, had a nasty lump, about the size of a marble for months, never happened again, either when he gave it to me later, other docs gave it nor since Mrs Gut took over, in a past life she was a pathology technician, so while sometimes I need to tell her what type of injection it is, she is pretty good at it. Plus young Miss Gut was on a drug that needed injections and is still on B group injections that she gives herself so is pretty handy.

 

plus I suspect they both enjoy sticking needles in the Old Gutster.

[MicCanberra]

who doesn't like to needle you?

[GUT2407]

14 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

who doesn't like to needle you?

Maxy

[MicCanberra]

He does as well, just in a different way. I am sure he is always wanting pats and food.

[mr walker]

20 hours ago, NSWP said:

My Grandaughter is sharpening the big horse needle ready for Covid injections.🤣At the Veterinary Clinic.  She is in Queensland, anything goes up there, lol.

 

You reminded me of my old Dad. In his later life he often had stitches from skin cancer removals etc. One day I asked when he had to go back to Doc to have the stitches out. He said that he doesn't go back to Doc, but that Kylie ( step GD) would do it, as "she's a nurse". I said "she's a vet nurse" & he replied "same stitches, & it's easier for her with me than with a dog or cat" 😮

[ilikeanswers]

12 minutes ago, mr walker said:

He said that he doesn't go back to Doc, but that Kylie ( step GD) would do it, as "she's a nurse". I said "she's a vet nurse" & he replied "same stitches, & it's easier for her with me than with a dog or cat" 😮

 

Years ago there was a documentary about this veterinary where they would test procedures they want to use on humans in animals with similar conditions. According to the doctor this was pretty common practice. So maybe vets are a little more qualified than we give them credit 😜. 

[NSWP]

1 minute ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

Years ago there was a documentary about this veterinary where they would test procedures they want to use on humans in animals with similar conditions. According to the doctor this was pretty common practice. So maybe vets are a little more qualified than we give them credit 😜. 

5 year degree plus another year in large animal studies, i.e. horses/cattle. = 6 years.

[MicCanberra]

A real tall order if they want to work on Giraffes.

[NSWP]

3 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

A real tall order if they want to work on Giraffes.

Well they study those creatures too, but my granddaughter said they could not do a post mortem on one at the uni as no carcass available, lol. Would be a ladder job.

 

The place my granddaughter works at is a general veterinary clinic, specialising in Equine - horses. People travel a few hundred kms with their sick horses.

Edited February 11, 2021 by NSWP

[MMDown Under]

10 minutes ago, NSWP said:

5 year degree plus another year in large animal studies, i.e. horses/cattle. = 6 years.

You must be very proud of your granddaughter's achievements.  Is she enjoying her new job in the bush in Sunny Qld.?

[MicCanberra]

1 minute ago, NSWP said:

Well they study those creatures too, but my grandaughter said they could not do a post mortem on one at the uni as no carcass available, lol. Would be a ladder job.

A post mortem wouldn't need a ladder, Surely, they would be laying down.

[ilikeanswers]

1 minute ago, NSWP said:

Well they study those creatures too, but my grandaughter said they could not do a post mortem on one at the uni as no carcass available, lol. Would be a ladder job.

 

You would probably have to go to Denmark to get one 🤭

[NSWP]

2 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

A post mortem wouldn't need a ladder, Surely, they would be laying down.

they would, knocked out, lol.

[NSWP]

5 minutes ago, MMDown Under said:

You must be very proud of your granddaughter's achievements.  Is she enjoying her new job in the bush in Sunny Qld.?

She is, does not mind the heat and loves the animals. Thankyou. I call her Doctor, but young vets don't like that term, it is christian names.  I still call my GP Doctor, he is 32 and an Indian, he says, use my christian name, I say, no Doc, I respect your profession and I am a dinosaur, lol.

Edited February 11, 2021 by NSWP

[pully8]

I suppose we will know more about the vaccine roll out and effectiveness by this time next year?

By then we may have different mutations of Covid19 and more proven vaccines on offer.

No doubt this is a huge business opportunity for the drug companies and hopefully positive outcomes for the global population. 

[OzKiwiJJ]

It's not going to stop the virus in it's tracks, it will be like the flu vaccine - minimize risk of getting it or minimize severity if you do get it. It will still be circulating in the community ready to take down the anti-vaxxers. 😉

[Aus Traveller]

10 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

It's not going to stop the virus in it's tracks, it will be like the flu vaccine - minimize risk of getting it or minimize severity if you do get it. It will still be circulating in the community ready to take down the anti-vaxxers. 😉

I think that more people will have the COVID vaccination compared with the flu vaccine. A lot of people don't bother having the flu shot because they don't see the illness as serious, but most would not have that opinion of COVID - only people I consider are crazy.

[OzKiwiJJ]

4 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said:

I think that more people will have the COVID vaccination compared with the flu vaccine. A lot of people don't bother having the flu shot because they don't see the illness as serious, but most would not have that opinion of COVID - only people I consider are crazy.

That may be the case here, and we may very well eliminate it for a while, but when international borders open it will come back, just like the flu does.

[Aus Traveller]

47 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

That may be the case here, and we may very well eliminate it for a while, but when international borders open it will come back, just like the flu does.

But if most of us have been vaccinated before the international borders are open, hopefully the virus will not be able to spread.

 

With the flu, the vaccination gives 60% protection and not even half of the Australian population has the shot. No wonder it spreads every winter - except last winter when people were taking COVID-safe measures.

[OzKiwiJJ]

14 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said:

But if most of us have been vaccinated before the international borders are open, hopefully the virus will not be able to spread.

 

With the flu, the vaccination gives 60% protection and not even half of the Australian population has the shot. No wonder it spreads every winter - except last winter when people were taking COVID-safe measures.

I don't trust viruses, they're sneaky!