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11 hours ago, stellarose said:

I am sure things will change once more and more of the vaccines are rolled out. Also, things change daily. I wear a mask daily to teach.  we have to have high hopes . Im hopeful for MG New Years. 

This part especially!  There aren't even cruises happening yet and people are so upset over this or that in these procedures.  It will probably change many times before the first cruises even happen and change depending on how things go once they do. 

I'm sure Carnival isn't exactly thrilled at all this either, but they also want to stay in business.  The number crunchers have likely spent the last 9+ months figuring how much they can reduce capacity (whether it's mandated or they have a hard time getting passengers) and still make enough money to stay afloat.  Just seeing these procedures makes me hopeful that maybe cruises will be able to start back up soon. I have one in August and have my fingers gently crossed that it will happen.

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7 hours ago, Indytraveler83 said:

None of this new policy is/should be surprising. And I'd bet it's all in an effort to get ships moving again. Totally understand if it doesn't sound very attractive to many people, but it seems pretty clear that getting ships to go out at first would take measures like this. 

 

Once ships are going and hopefully the virus is under more control, I'd bet these get lax or changed quickly. We are scheduled out for Thanksgiving of this year, so very interested to see how it looks by then. 

Before my kids went back to school this fall we had these power point presentations about seating on the bus, in the lunch rooms, hallways, how desks are set up, etc. and it all felt overwhelming and crazy to have to deal with just to send them to school.  But the reality was they adapted quickly.  It's different.  Some ways worse, some ways better.  And it won't be like this forever so most people deal with it for now because it's better than not being able to go. Some people pulled their kids to homeschool instead.  It'll be the same when cruising does start back up.  Thankfully, it's much more of a choice for everyone than kids going to school or not.   

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Looks like this notice disappeared from the Carnival page unless they moved it. I received a free interior w/drink on us in Casino for Jan-Feb 2022 cruise. Not sure if I want to try or not. Only $200 down, I need to double check final pay, and go from there.

 

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2 hours ago, sammee said:

Looks like this notice disappeared from the Carnival page unless they moved it. I received a free interior w/drink on us in Casino for Jan-Feb 2022 cruise. Not sure if I want to try or not. Only $200 down, I need to double check final pay, and go from there.

 

Too bad you can't give it away, I'm always one paying full price for a solo cabin, cruisefare x 2. I'd sign up for next jan in a heartbeat for free.

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2 hours ago, sammee said:

Looks like this notice disappeared from the Carnival page unless they moved it. I received a free interior w/drink on us in Casino for Jan-Feb 2022 cruise. Not sure if I want to try or not. Only $200 down, I need to double check final pay, and go from there.

 

 I didn’t see it anywhere either. Probably a lot will be like this, but maybe will get better. Someone must have jumped the gun in posting on the website.

 

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14 hours ago, joeyancho said:

I could live with the mask.  It's all the other restrictions.   Especially not being able to leave the ship on my own.  Most ports I have been to many times.   I have beaches, restaurants,  shopping places, etc I like to visit that the tours do not visit. Just imagine the cattle call those tours are going to be.  Not for me. 

I'm assuming that carnival sponsored excursions may be different than the usual selections. They may very well have options to transport guest to a beach and back (like when ships have been stranded in ports with mechanical errors. We'll see what happens

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On 2/5/2021 at 9:52 AM, cruzin Phillis said:

Just because people do not want to cruise under these measures do not mean they are not compliant. For me with children, it would be an added stress and not very enjoyable when paying that amount of money.

Living in a pandemic is added stress. If you can't abide by the rules, and children are too unruly to follow simple rules, perhaps a vacation should be off the table for a pandemic.

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Wow. I see a lot of entitlement here. You'd think after nearly a year of this, and nearly a half million Americans dead, and over 2 million wordlwide, people would understand the importance of compliance with simple guidelines. Thank you to those who are either willing to follow the rules, or if they find them too burdensome, will cancel. I'd appreciate being able to go on a cruise before the end of the year.

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1 hour ago, Doggielover68 said:

I'm assuming that carnival sponsored excursions may be different than the usual selections. They may very well have options to transport guest to a beach and back (like when ships have been stranded in ports with mechanical errors. We'll see what happens

I was looking at excursions available for our cruise and thought the same thing.  They are going to have to be different, and some of the ones they are offering wouldn't work if we need to stay in a bubble and away from the public.  Hopefully we can just get transport over to a beach and stay within a certain area at a reasonable cost.

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4 hours ago, sammee said:

Looks like this notice disappeared from the Carnival page unless they moved it. I received a free interior w/drink on us in Casino for Jan-Feb 2022 cruise. Not sure if I want to try or not. Only $200 down, I need to double check final pay, and go from there.

 

 

2 hours ago, Bostwick girl said:

 

 I didn’t see it anywhere either. Probably a lot will be like this, but maybe will get better. Someone must have jumped the gun in posting on the website.

 

If you mean the covid 19 notice someone said in post 45

It is on the actual booking page - bit sneeky in my opinion

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20 hours ago, kdr69 said:

Plus if they are US Flagged they can only hire US personnel and must pay US wages.  In the case of the Pride of America that was based in Hawaii it also meant the loss of the Casino

 

 

Exactly. Could you imagine the price of cruises if they even paid the federal minimum wage to a 1000 employees a week?!?!

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Is this information ONLY on the booking page?   They didn't want to tell all of us that are ALREADY booked?  Even searching on the web for an exact match of the wording does not lead to a link to this statement anywhere on their page.   If someone has the direct link, can you please post it?  

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4 minutes ago, 80sGal said:

Is this information ONLY on the booking page?   They didn't want to tell all of us that are ALREADY booked?  Even searching on the web for an exact match of the wording does not lead to a link to this statement anywhere on their page.   If someone has the direct link, can you please post it?  

I only saw it on the booking screen where you enter the credit card info. I copied it from there. I didn't see it anywhere else.

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19 hours ago, Linda the Book Lover said:

Sadly the unhappy customer reports more than than the satisfied one. We met many nice and enjoyable employees on POA. I was hesitant at first base on some of the reviews to book but since my DD and DGD wanted to give it a try, we did. We had the best time! True, it is pricer than non US flagged ships but then food items etc are more to replenish in Hawaii. We did not meet any employee who did not smile or try to find an answer and most of all there was always a good morning etc. Though this has nothing to do with the original title of this post, I did feel I wanted to share my POA experience. And we will sail again on POA in 2022 with masks if it is required.

Thank you for sharing. I'm booked on this so for next year. 

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35 minutes ago, 80sGal said:

Is this information ONLY on the booking page?   They didn't want to tell all of us that are ALREADY booked?  Even searching on the web for an exact match of the wording does not lead to a link to this statement anywhere on their page.   If someone has the direct link, can you please post it?  

https://www.carnival.com/legal/covid-19-legal-notices

 

Actually it NOW looks like this direct link has changed from what it was yesterday. What the OP had copied in the initial post used to be at this link but no more.

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On 2/5/2021 at 10:46 AM, cruzin Phillis said:

It is on the payment screen where you enter your payment info. you have to check both boxes to process payment

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Those of us who booked before this "Acceptance of COVID-19 Rules" was made part of the agreement, should be given refunds if desired since this was not part of the contract upon placing deposit. I'm sure my 5/3 sailing will be cancelled, but if not....these were not the rules when I booked so hopefully they will be lenient with refunds. 

I just can't spend a vacation like this. No offense to those who don't mind it--hey, that's great---but it's not for me. I will wait until this is all over before traveling again....and if it's never over....well, I can bask in all the memories. 🙂 

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3 hours ago, vinsheer said:

https://www.carnival.com/legal/covid-19-legal-notices

 

Actually it NOW looks like this direct link has changed from what it was yesterday. What the OP had copied in the initial post used to be at this link but no more.

is it the same as this

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24326-carnival-cruise-line-covid-19-policy-to-require-masks-organized-excursions-only.html

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On 2/5/2021 at 2:33 PM, Cruisesfun65 said:

 Nope. Clearly stated under the current cancelation policies on Carnival's website. 

I'm not sure how that would work.   Do you have a link for that?   We agreed to the terms and conditions that were in effect at the time of booking.   One party (Carnival) can't change the terms of the contract for something so substantial, unless there is some really tiny fine print in that contract that allows them to do so.   Can you post the link to the policy you're referencing?   Thanks!

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1 minute ago, 80sGal said:

I'm not sure how that would work.   Do you have a link for that?   We agreed to the terms and conditions that were in effect at the time of booking.   One party (Carnival) can't change the terms of the contract for something so substantial, unless there is some really tiny fine print in that contract that allows them to do so.   Can you post the link to the policy you're referencing?   Thanks!

 

Carnival took the protocols as well as the Covid cancellation policies off their website today.

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On 2/4/2021 at 5:56 PM, cruzin Phillis said:

I found this before I put my deposit down on the Carnival website :

 

Check-In

Only booked guests are permitted to enter the terminal and boarding area. Visitors are not permitted in these locations at any time. All guests must complete their online check-in and select an arrival appointment time no later than midnight (Eastern time) prior to their sailing date. Guests must arrive within their selected time to facilitate physical distancing during the check-in and boarding process. Guests arriving earlier than their scheduled time will not be allowed to enter the terminal until the time of their arrival appointment. This also applies to VIFP Diamond/Platinum and Casino guests.

Testing

As part of our efforts to keep our guests safe and healthy, every guest 2 years of age or older, joining a ship, regardless of method of travel to the ship, is required to take a SARS-CoV-2 test between 5 days to 24 hours prior to the date of embarkation and must receive a negative result. Guests must provide the original document confirming a negative test result that is legible, identifies the approved and licensed testing entity, sample collection date and type of test, and identity of the tested individual. Carnival reserves the right to reject any test result that does not meet these requirements. Per our privacy notice, test results will be shared only with Carnival personnel and/or contractually engaged third parties to facilitate our screening and mitigation protocols, or as required by health authorities. Carnival may perform additional testing at the terminal or on board the vessel. Any guest who fails to provide the required documentation or testing at the terminal or on board will be denied boarding or disembarked, and no refund or credit will be issued.

If at any time within 14 days prior to embarkation, or at any time during the cruise, a guest tests positive for COVID-19, exhibits signs or symptoms of COVID-19, has had close contact with a person confirmed or suspected of having COVID-19, or Carnival otherwise determines in its sole discretion that guest is unfit to board due to risk of any communicable illness, guest shall be subject to denial of boarding, denial of re-boarding, quarantine, isolation and/or disembarkation.

Health Screening

Carnival has the right to screen any guest to facilitate compliance with its health and safety protocols. All guests will be required to complete a health questionnaire beginning 72 hours before the date of embarkation to identify any symptoms consistent with COVID-19 (or other infectious diseases) and any contact with individuals confirmed to have COVID-19 prior to the cruise. The questionnaire will be based upon the latest CDC guidance for signs and symptoms of COVID-19 and guests will be required to reconfirm their responses at time of check-in. All guests will have their temperature taken as part of the boarding process.

Screening on Board

Guests may be required to undergo at least daily temperature checks and must submit to any requested medical screening during the cruise. Temperature checks may also be conducted prior to disembarking at a port of call and before participating in certain onboard activities.

Reporting COVID-19 Symptoms

Every guest has an important duty to immediately report any symptoms consistent with COVID-19 to the ship’s medical personnel. Failure to do so jeopardizes individual health and that of all those on board and others ashore.

Face Masks

In our continuing effort to keep our guests safe and healthy, all guests over the age of two will be required to wear a mask when indoors except when inside their own stateroom, while eating and drinking seated at a table and when using the cardio equipment at the gym and physical distancing is maintained. Guests are required to wear a mask outdoors when physical distancing cannot be maintained. Masks should have two or more layers and be worn over the nose and mouth. Gaiters and bandanas are not allowed, and face shields are permitted when used with a mask. These requirements apply during all aspects of the cruise, including embarkation, shore excursions and disembarkation. A limited supply of masks will be available in staterooms after boarding.

Physical Distancing

In our effort to maintain physical distancing on our ships, access to public spaces will be limited and venues/activities will operate at reduced capacity. We may use a reservation system for our public areas, such as pools, gyms, casinos, restaurants, bars, and entertainment. 🙄

Our physical distancing protocols will be in accordance with the CDC’s recommendations, which is defined at staying at least six (6) feet (2 meters) apart from other people who are not the guest’s cruise companions (family or immediate travel group).

Guests can expect appropriately distanced seating in theaters, dining facilities and other common venues, modified entertainment showings and meal services to control capacity as well as other measures to promote a healthy and safe environment. These measures will apply during all aspects of the cruise, including embarkation, shore excursions and disembarkation. Buffet service is modified to eliminate or severely restrict self-service items.

Contact Tracing

All guests may be required to provide identifying information and information about certain activities engaged in during the cruise so Carnival can perform contact tracing in the event any person on board is suspected or confirmed to have COVID-19. Various location tracking technologies may be used to assist in the collection of contact tracing information such as wearables, video surveillance, transaction data, and photographs taken during the cruise. Please refer to Carnival's Privacy Notice for more details.

SHORE EXCURSIONS

To help limit potential exposure and/or transmission to communities at destinations, during the initial return to sailing, guests will only be allowed to participate in excursions or activities executed and escorted by vetted tour operators who maintain Carnival’s level of COVID-19 controls. Shore side visits may be also limited to port areas that have no public access. Self-exploration or non-Carnival sponsored excursions will not be permitted. This policy applies to all sailings scheduled during the declared Public Health Emergency involving COVID-19.

Carnival may, in its sole discretion, avoid a pre-planned destination should a concern arise regarding the level of COVID-19 community spread in that destination or impose certain restrictions on shore excursions relating to capacity, participation, locations, times, eligible venues and persons with whom the guest may come into contact. Carnival may offer indoor excursions only if physical distancing, use of masks, and other recommended protective measures can be implemented.

We will have pre-arranged transportation from the ship to the venue and back again. Guests will be able to pre-purchase shore excursions through Carnival.com, the Carnival HUB app or on board, subject to availability and capacity restrictions. All guests will have to comply with our physical distancing, mask wearing and all other COVID-19 related requirements. Throughout the duration of the shore excursion, guests will be asked to remain with their cruise companions. There may be additional restrictions during shore excursions depending on local conditions.

Any noncompliance by guest or members of guest’s travelling party with Carnival COVID-19 Policies and Procedures shall be grounds for refusal to re-board after going ashore, or other steps deemed necessary in Carnival’s sole discretion to protect the health and safety of others. If a guest is denied boarding or disembarked due to failure to comply with Carnival COVID-19 Policies and Procedures, they will not be entitled to a refund, credit, or compensation of any kind. Guests will be responsible for all costs and fines, including without limitation travel expenses.

 

Are sure this is true- it is not on Carnival's website.

 

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8 hours ago, Purvis1231 said:

Are sure this is true- it is not on Carnival's website.

 

Yes, I also saw all these protocols posted on Carnivals website for about 24 hours. Then they took it down.

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11 hours ago, Aulanis said:

Yes, this article contains the protocols that were posted for about 24 hrs on their website. Maybe an error was made and these new protocols were accidentally released too early. Who knows....

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