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2 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

For all of the people that believe that the "Follow the Science" approach is absolute, they need to remember that there was a time when the Science said that the earth was flat.  If Columbus followed the Science we would have never found the New World.  Sometimes, you need to change your approach when you see new evidence but you may not know all of the details.  The CDC needs to move away from it's Earth is flat position and allow people to start looking for the New World.

That is all a myth.  He did not discover anything new or unknown.  He was not proving the world was round - that too was already known.  He was trying to find a shorter route to India, and failed.  

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36 minutes ago, nocl said:

However the time on the oars leaves calluses

But it's the one cruise where shore excursions are lucrative, not an expense to the ship's passengers.  'Loot' that really gives the term meaning!!!

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Just now, Fouremco said:

Especially on the days that Red decides to waterski. 

On those days if you row too slowly you become the bait during the shark trolling activity.

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4 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

For all of the people that believe that the "Follow the Science" approach is absolute, they need to remember that there was a time when the Science said that the earth was flat.  If Columbus followed the Science we would have never found the New World.  Sometimes, you need to change your approach when you see new evidence but you may not know all of the details.  The CDC needs to move away from it's Earth is flat position and allow people to start looking for the New World.

 

Man, American schools are a disgrace that this is a common line of thought.

 

Western Civlization has known since ancient times that the earth is round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_Earth's_circumference

 

Columbus wasn't ridiculed for believing the world was round in a flat-earth world.  Everyone thought the earth was round.  He was ridiculed because his math was wrong, which it was.  He thought the planet was much smaller than it was, and that he would reach "the indies" by sailing west before he ran out of food and died.  No one had attempted it before, since everyone was working on the correct diameter of earth, and knew they would not be able to make it before running out of food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus#Geographical_considerations

 

Columbus (more his crew) was lucky there were a couple continents between him and his destination.

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19 minutes ago, UnorigionalName said:

 

Man, American schools are a disgrace that this is a common line of thought.

 

Western Civlization has known since ancient times that the earth is round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_Earth's_circumference

 

Columbus wasn't ridiculed for believing the world was round in a flat-earth world.  Everyone thought the earth was round.  He was ridiculed because his math was wrong, which it was.  He thought the planet was much smaller than it was, and that he would reach "the indies" by sailing west before he ran out of food and died.  No one had attempted it before, since everyone was working on the correct diameter of earth, and knew they would not be able to make it before running out of food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus#Geographical_considerations

 

Columbus (more his crew) was lucky there were a couple continents between him and his destination.

Well, your version of the round/flat earth and who ‘discovered’ America is all very nice but there are alternate opinions...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_We_Go

 

And don’t get me started on Chris Columbus and Lief Erikson and who got to North America first!

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18 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

Well, your version of the round/flat earth and who ‘discovered’ America is all very nice but there are alternate opinions...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_We_Go

 

And don’t get me started on Chris Columbus and Lief Erikson and who got to North America first!

 

Didn't Christopher Columbus discover Columbus Circle in Manhattan?

Columbus Circle.jpg

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1 hour ago, NavyCruiser said:

Columbus was the worst cruise director ever.

He's the first to cancel the midnight buffets...

 

I had one worse.  It was on Admiral Cruise line just before filing bankruptcy.  The Captain doubled as the CD and played his accordion one night as the entertainment.  No Joke.

 

Admiral was acquired by Royal Caribbean Cruise Line in 1988 and was discontinued in 1992. At least Azamara lasted longer under RCG.

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16 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

For all of the people that believe that the "Follow the Science" approach is absolute, they need to remember that there was a time when the Science said that the earth was flat.  If Columbus followed the Science we would have never found the New World.  Sometimes, you need to change your approach when you see new evidence but you may not know all of the details.  The CDC needs to move away from it's Earth is flat position and allow people to start looking for the New World.

Columbus was not disproving a "flat Earth."  He was trying to find  a better way to reach China.

 

As early as the sixth century B.C., Pythagoras — and later Aristotle and Euclid — wrote about the Earth as a sphere. Ptolemy wrote “Geography” at the height of the Roman Empire, 1,300 years before Columbus sailed, and considered the idea of a round planet as fact.

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18 hours ago, NavyCruiser said:

Elon Musk just announced that his brand new cruise port on Mars is now open for cruises, before any US ports.  Just gotta import some water there first....

 

Does the CDC have jurisdiction on Mars?

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17 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

For all of the people that believe that the "Follow the Science" approach is absolute, they need to remember that there was a time when the Science said that the earth was flat.  If Columbus followed the Science we would have never found the New World.  Sometimes, you need to change your approach when you see new evidence but you may not know all of the details.  The CDC needs to move away from it's Earth is flat position and allow people to start looking for the New World.

C'mon Man! 

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Actually Columbus was the worst cruise director for another very sad reason.  It is an interesting fact that major deadly pandemics were started in North America in the 1500's (Measles, Smallpox and Influenza) from sailors and passengers arriving on Spanish ships (like Columbus).  These pandemics were highly lethal to the native american populations since their immune systems had not experienced these diseases before.  And of course vaccines were not invented yet.  The term pandemic disease was not used until the later 19th century.

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5 hours ago, TeeRick said:

Actually Columbus was the worst cruise director for another very sad reason.  It is an interesting fact that major deadly pandemics were started in North America in the 1500's (Measles, Smallpox and Influenza) from sailors and passengers arriving on Spanish ships (like Columbus).  These pandemics were highly lethal to the native american populations since their immune systems had not experienced these diseases before.  And of course vaccines were not invented yet.  The term pandemic disease was not used until the later 19th century.

From the history of vaccines dot org:

 

Evidence exists that the Chinese employed smallpox inoculation (or variolation, as such use of smallpox material was called) as early as 1000 CE. It was practiced in Africa and Turkey as well, before it spread to Europe and the Americas.

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Some thoughts:

 

Cruise lines are not going to abandon their huge investments in Florida port terminals no matter what they might "float" to the public.  

 

Flying into Cozumel is a pain.  Best airport is Cancun which implies a boat trip to get to the island.

 

Its not expensive, $300 R/T on average, but inconvenient with some flights from popular US cities taking 12 or more house to complete, changing planes, etc.

 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) serves as the national focus for developing and applying disease prevention and control, environmental health, and health promotion and health education activities designed to improve the health of the people of the United States.

 

And, yes, your trip to Cozumel to cruise could have CDC oversight, especially when returning to the US.

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1 hour ago, Ride-The-Waves said:

Icelandic

 

2 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

There too, after moving from Norway. Greenland too after moving again.

 

But how many of those places were discovered by getting lost?  Iceland was discovered a Viking who got lost on his way to the Faeroes.  And the Viking discovery of North America was another case of getting lost, on the way to Greenland. 

 

So before signing on for a cruise with Eric the Red, check out the Bob Newhart bit about the submarine captain announcing that 'in a few minutes you'll be gazing on the familiar skyline of either New York or ... Buenos Aires.'  [4:30 in, but the whole bit is hilarious 🤣]

 

 

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