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2 hours ago, OnTheJourney said:

The excerpt you quoted was not mine....it was part of a larger quote from the article that SantaFe referred to in post #242. I simply commented on a portion of it in my post #245. 

 

Sorry. Even though it came from your post and thus your name on it, I should have added that it was a quotation from another source; just adding quotation marks was not sufficient. Thanks for adding the clarification.

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3 hours ago, Heidi13 said:

 

Got a good laugh reading this one. This chap must be a saleman, as he clearly knows very little about the marine industry.

 

Calling a ship "Operational" when crewed by a skeleton crew, is somewhat of a stretch. Ships have more than skeleton crews while drydocking, and I certainly wouldn't consider a ship on the blocks in a graving dock, as being operational. To most people, a hot or cold layup is NOT "Operational".

 

He also stated that their procedures had limited their skeleton crew's exposure to only a few cases. Sorry, but to me this proves their procedures are a failure, as with limited crew, no pax, no shore leave and minimal crew exchanges, if new crew were quarantined for 10 to 14 days, they should have had zero exposures, except for possibly those in quarantine.

 

Viking used this from Bali to Gibraltar, with a full crew and an initial pax count of about 400. Zero infections experienced and at that time we only had daily temperature checks, no shore leave and after the Suez Canal the partial Bridge Team went into quarantine.

I hate to correct you but the sales man is a she not a he.... Just saying https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-ekstein-a478948

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22 minutes ago, Porcupine 52 said:

I hate to correct you but the sales man is a she not a he.... Just saying https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-ekstein-a478948

 

I wasn't making reference to the author, I was commenting on the information allegedly provided by the cruise line's new President. With a first name Josh, I assume he is male.😀

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10 hours ago, SantaFe1 said:

Read an interesting article this morning from Seabourne exec about not requiring vaccinations on ships.   https://apple.news/AuwDiaJNWSratx_gI992glQ


After reading all that the Seabourn exec said, I think I will pass on Seabourn in the future, covid or no covid.  Obviously a clueless individual.

 

We have cruised Seabourn before and found it mediocre at best anyway.  They just don’t get service or true luxury.  In a review I summed Seabourn up as “annoying”.  And this exec fits with that description perfectly...

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said:


After reading all that the Seabourn exec said, I think I will pass on Seabourn in the future, covid or no covid.  Obviously a clueless individual.

 

We have cruised Seabourn before and found it mediocre at best anyway.  They just don’t get service or true luxury.  In a review I summed Seabourn up as “annoying”.  And this exec fits with that description perfectly...

 

 

 

 

Ragnar - hardly surprising, when you not only consider who owns them, but to which operating group they are assigned.

 

Owned by Carnival 😒 but they are included in the Holland America Group, which comprises P&O Australia, Princess, HAL & Seabourn. Wouldn't be my choice of stable mates for what they allude to as being a luxury line.

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On 3/18/2021 at 3:05 PM, Ragnar Danneskjold said:

Iceland just said they will welcome people from the US and the UK, as long as they have proof of covid vaccination.  So any cruise line planning to visit Iceland will have to ensure pax and crew are vaccinated.  Or prevent the unvaccinated from trying to go ashore.  Good luck with the latter....

 

 

 

And if your cruise terminates in Iceland and you disembark there... as my Iceland’s Majestic Landscapes will... then by default vaccinations will be mandatory.  Still don’t think I’ll really be sailing in July... sigh....

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21 hours ago, Heidi13 said:

 

I wasn't making reference to the author, I was commenting on the information allegedly provided by the cruise line's new President. With a first name Josh, I assume he is male.😀

Correct t. Josh is short for Joshua and he is a male. He is a career Carnival executive. A friend knows him and his family.

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1 minute ago, rbslos18 said:

Correct t. Josh is short for Joshua and he is a male. He is a career Carnival executive. A friend knows him and his family.

 

Thanks for clarifying.

 

Sadly yet another Shipping Executive with no real knowledge of what actually happens on a ship. I remember the good old days when you never asked subordinate to do a task you had never done yourself, or knew how to do.😀

 

The days of Captains and Chief Engineers being the CEO's are sadly long gone, in favour of MBA's, etc.😒

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2 hours ago, Heidi13 said:

in favour of MBA's

 

Always thought it stood for Master Bull Artist

 

 and Bull is only half a word in this context

 

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2 hours ago, Peregrina651 said:

 

Always thought it stood for Master Bull Artist

 

 and Bull is only half a word in this context

 

 

Haha!! good one.

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15 hours ago, Peregrina651 said:

Always thought it stood for Master Bull Artist

LOL..right up there with PhD = "Piled Hip Deep" . I have an MM degree...you know...those plain chocolate candies???  😁 No need to elaborate on what BS degree might connote. 

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We learned it as BS, MS and PHD -- which we translate as Piled Higher and Deeper. However, give a PHd a mechanical toy (camera, smart phone, etc.) and "PHD" stands for Push Here, Dummy."

 

But we digress and should probably get pack to the topic at hand now that everyone has had a good laugh.

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On 3/25/2021 at 1:10 PM, Peregrina651 said:

But we digress and should probably get pack to the topic

Yeah but the side roads taken in some of these CC threads are often more enjoyable than the topic!!! 

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On 3/25/2021 at 1:10 PM, Peregrina651 said:

 

We learned it as BS, MS and PHD 

 

Higher education is enviable. 
As the Nobel Prize for Literature winner once wrote;

 

“Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift”

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3 minutes ago, jasardeax said:

Higher education is enviable. 
As the Nobel Prize for Literature winner once wrote;

 

“Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift”

Did he ever accept the award? I remember reading about it, and he hadn’t claimed it.

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11 minutes ago, Squawkman said:

Did he ever accept the award? I remember reading about it, and he hadn’t claimed it.

Yes, he did finally accept, belatedly though, and not in person. 
Patti Smith belatedly accepted for him. Since a lecture is required to receive the prize, he sent a taped lecture. 
Prize was worth about $900,000


 

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On 3/21/2021 at 9:34 PM, LindaS272 said:

COVID risk is no laughing matter and is a serious disease, and frankly, we don’t know enough about the vaccines to know how well they work. You can still get COVID, so that’s why I wouldn’t want to be around unmasked unvaxxed diners in any of the dining rooms or lounges, or in the bubble excursion buses.


Fortunately, we’re starting to get data on how well the vaccines are working. Just read yesterday that in Minnesota, for example, the rate of fully vaccinated people who later tested positive for Covid is running at .01%. Of those .01%, none have died. Those are darn good odds. I imagine we’ll continue to get more data in the coming months.
 

I’m in the minority here, I guess, in that I would have no problem traveling with unvaccinated people. Unless the data changes drastically, I’m not concerned about catching it. (I get my second shot this coming week, and I didn’t catch it from my husband when he had it last year in spite of him continuing to have the run of the house and neither of us wearing masks. This was back when they were telling us masks were pointless.) The only reason I might be concerned would be if our trip got derailed because of Covid onboard. That’s definitely a consideration, though again, if the vaccination data continues to be anywhere near as good as it’s currently looking, in 6 months or a year a few Covid cases onboard might not cause the same level of concern as they would today.
 

I would definitely forego any cruise that mandated we remain in a bubble on shore. We’d either postpone our cruise or skip it entirely and do something else. 

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13 hours ago, Twitchly said:


Fortunately, we’re starting to get data on how well the vaccines are working. Just read yesterday that in Minnesota, for example, the rate of fully vaccinated people who later tested positive for Covid is running at .01%. Of those .01%, none have died. Those are darn good odds. I imagine we’ll continue to get more data in the coming months.
 

I’m in the minority here, I guess, in that I would have no problem traveling with unvaccinated people. Unless the data changes drastically, I’m not concerned about catching it. (I get my second shot this coming week, and I didn’t catch it from my husband when he had it last year in spite of him continuing to have the run of the house and neither of us wearing masks. This was back when they were telling us masks were pointless.) The only reason I might be concerned would be if our trip got derailed because of Covid onboard. That’s definitely a consideration, though again, if the vaccination data continues to be anywhere near as good as it’s currently looking, in 6 months or a year a few Covid cases onboard might not cause the same level of concern as they would today.
 

I would definitely forego any cruise that mandated we remain in a bubble on shore. We’d either postpone our cruise or skip it entirely and do something else. 

 

In addition to the potential of having a cruise derailed due to having COVID aboard, we experienced one of the most derailed cruises, and over almost 4 months we had zero cases of COVID aboard. All it takes is a rumour to start and any cruise can be derailed, even without having COVID cases. On the last WC, the rumour started when a previous pax made a comment, "You have COVID aboard" when photos showed us going ashore with masks, which were mandated by the Komodo local govt (we had to protect the dragons). Local media picked up the story and that effectively ended the cruise. A similar situation was experienced by the Costa or MSC WC ship.

 

If the cruise line accepts anti-vaxxers then it will be much harder to dispel any rumours of COVID and increase the probability of a cruise being impacted. If everyone is vaccinated, the cruise line will have a greater chance of dispelling any rumours.

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30 minutes ago, Jim Avery said:

Proterct the dragons....  Hahah,  they love a good bit of Haggis.  Lucky you made it out....😳

 

Not to scare anyone, but we felt reassured by the "Security Guards" that accompanied us - NAW!! - 2 locals about 5' tall and armed with a 6' stick with a "V" on the end.

 

Next time, I think a relaxing pool day is in order😁

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You guys should go snorkeling I heard it was once of best on our WC...we were sorry we didn't  do that instead because the snorkelers even go to see the dragons briefly without the LONG HOT WALK!!!

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