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https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ports-destinations/disney-cruise-line-pursues-long-term-agreement-port-everglades

According to the port's director, Disney is in talks with Broward County to possibly begin using Terminal 4, Carnival's former terminal. 

It was reported earlier last year that Carnival "amended its agreement" with Port Everglades, but we can comfortably assume that they've basically pulled out as there is no active ships based at the port in its current schedule through 2023.  

 

There is no set timeline announced yet. Talks are slated to begin on May 18.

 

(Edit to add) Disney's agreement with Miami is not seeing any danger of being dissolved just yet. It goes until 2024. 

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Interesting.  Perhaps a move from Miami for whichever ship runs from there? 

 

Or, maybe a negation tactic for a better deal with the port of Miami?  

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On 5/7/2021 at 4:25 PM, snoozecrooze said:

https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ports-destinations/disney-cruise-line-pursues-long-term-agreement-port-everglades

According to the port's director, Disney is in talks with Broward County to possibly begin using Terminal 4, Carnival's former terminal. 

It was reported earlier last year that Carnival "amended its agreement" with Port Everglades, but we can comfortably assume that they've basically pulled out as there is no active ships based at the port in its current schedule through 2023. 

 


What's interesting to me is that there is mention of Disney looking to possibly base a ship holding up to 3,500 passengers at Port Everglades.  That seems to imply this would not be the future home for the Magic or Wonder, but for a ship of the Dream class or Wish class.  So maybe the Dream would sail 3, 4, and 5 night cruises from there, or eventually the Fantasy might sail 7 night trips from there.  Or who knows; I guess it depends on whether DCL can make a better deal with Port Miami or Port Everglades for future terminal/pier space. 

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On 5/13/2021 at 1:00 AM, Modern_Viking said:

So maybe the Dream would sail 3, 4, and 5 night cruises from there, or eventually the Fantasy might sail 7 night trips from there. 

Certainly, and it makes sense since Disney's fleet is growing, barring nothing happens to the company. It's about time Disney works on expanding its itineraries and Port Everglades would provide DCL with much-needed space for its ships. 

 

Personally, I'd expect Canaveral to continue to be its proudest possession so Everglades will be tossed some of its simpler 3-4 days while Canaveral gets possible 7-dayers. 

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I certainly won't be lining up to cruise from Port Everglades ever again.  We had our most disorganised and painfully slow experience of entering the US at Port Everglades.  Unbelievably long lines and slow moving as well.  It proved worse than Miami or New York.  Frankly only Canaveral offers a Disney class experience in my view! 

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On 5/16/2021 at 7:36 PM, snoozecrooze said:

Certainly, and it makes sense since Disney's fleet is growing, barring nothing happens to the company. It's about time Disney works on expanding its itineraries and Port Everglades would provide DCL with much-needed space for its ships. 

 

Personally, I'd expect Canaveral to continue to be its proudest possession so Everglades will be tossed some of its simpler 3-4 days while Canaveral gets possible 7-dayers. 

 

Disney only has 4 ships, one coming online next year and one supposedly two years after that. 6 ships is nothing. Incredibly tiny fleet. It's not a space problem at all. It's a market strategy problem.

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On 5/16/2021 at 7:36 PM, snoozecrooze said:

Certainly, and it makes sense since Disney's fleet is growing, barring nothing happens to the company. It's about time Disney works on expanding its itineraries and Port Everglades would provide DCL with much-needed space for its ships. 

 

Personally, I'd expect Canaveral to continue to be its proudest possession so Everglades will be tossed some of its simpler 3-4 days while Canaveral gets possible 7-dayers. 

The 3/4 day cruises are likely to stay at PC. I believe there are a large number of people that go to WDW for a few days and then sail for the rest of the week long vacation. With that, I can see DCL running 4 ships out of PC. The Dream and Wish doing 3/4, the Fantasy continuing the 7 with the next new ship doing 7 as well. That would have a ship every day at PC and Castaway Cay and keep the workload consistent at PC to allow for increased efficiency.

The Wonder and Magic would continue to keep playing 2nd fiddle out of Miami/ Everglades and the other unique itineraries.

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On 5/27/2021 at 11:06 AM, ArthurUSCG said:

The 3/4 day cruises are likely to stay at PC. I believe there are a large number of people that go to WDW for a few days and then sail for the rest of the week long vacation. With that, I can see DCL running 4 ships out of PC. The Dream and Wish doing 3/4, the Fantasy continuing the 7 with the next new ship doing 7 as well.

Interesting but very possible. I am not a Disney expert so I don't claim to have any sensible predictions. But I have to wonder if Disney will eventually send either Magic or Wonder to Japan and open up more room for its deployment patterns. Perhaps stationing a ship permanently on the West Coast from San Diego or Los Angeles as well. Maybe when the rest of the new ships join the fleet. 

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