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Why is the Discovery Princess such a mystery?  When will it first cruise?  How and when will it get to the west coast?  Usually there is an abundance of information about new ships so what is the problem with this new build?

 

Judy from SW Florida

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5 minutes ago, Jemnibabe said:

Why is the Discovery Princess such a mystery?  When will it first cruise?  How and when will it get to the west coast?  Usually there is an abundance of information about new ships so what is the problem with this new build?

 

Judy from SW Florida

I don't know either, but I'm hoping it's in Seattle by September of 2022. We're booked on it then, and it's in our favorite cabin. 

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I have an April 2022 cruise booked.  My Medallion does not list Discovery as the ship.  It says Princess Property.  So weird.

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Cruise Ship Order Book from Cruise Industry News ....see line 20.

 

2021:

Cruise Line Ship Cost1 Tonnage Capacity Yard Sailing Delivery
DeliveredMSC Cruises Virtuosa $900 177,100 4,888 Chantiers Europe February
DeliveredexpCoral Expeditions Geographer $75 5,500 120 VARD Australia Q1
DeliveredRoyal Caribbean Odyssey $950 167,000 4,200 Meyer Carib March
DeliveredexpQuark Ultramarine $150 13,000 200 Brodosplit World April
DeliveredViking Ocean Viking Venus $400 47,000 930 Fincantieri World April
lngexpPonant Commandant Charcot $324 30,000 270 VARD World May
expSunStone2 Ocean Explorer $65 8,000 140 CMIH World May
expSunStone3 Ocean Victory $65 8,000 186 CMIH World May
Holland America Rotterdam $520 99,000 2,660 Fincantieri Eur/Carib June
expHapag-Lloyd H/Spirit $155 16,100 230 VARD World Q2
expMystic/Atlas World Navigator $80 9,300 200 West Sea World Q2
Emerald Azzurra $100 10,000 100 Halong World Q2
DeliveredSea Cloud Spirit $100 6,000 136 Metalships World Q2
Tradewind Voyages Golden Horizon $100 8,770 300 Brodosplit World Q2
expCrystal Endeavor $390 19,800 200 MV Werften World Q2
Ritz-Carlton Evrima $225 25,000 298 Barreras World Q2
MSC Cruises Seashore $1,100 169,380 4,560 Fincantieri Europe Summer
expSunStone4 Sylvia Earle $65 8,000 130 CMIH World September
expOceanwide Janssonius $85 6,300 174 Brodosplit World October
Princess Discovery Princess $760 141,000 3,660 Fincantieri Eur/Carib October
expLindblad NG Resolution $150 12,000 126 Ulstein World Q3
expSeabourn Venture $225 23,000 264 Mariotti World Q3
lngAIDA Cruises AIDAcosma $950 183,900 5,400 Meyer Europe Q3
Virgin Valiant Lady $710 110,000 2,770 Fincantieri Eur/Carib Q3
expSwan Hellenic Minerva $150 10,000 152 Helsinki World November
Silversea Silver Dawn $380 40,700 596 Fincantieri World Q4
expViking Ocean Viking Octantis $275 30,000 378 VARD World Q4
lngCosta Cruises Toscana $950 183,900 5,224 Meyer Turku South Am Q4
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We’re on the Discovery in April however this Cruise Industry News article from 5/15/21 has me concerned about Discovery’s first scheduled cruise.

 

Discovery Princess
Capacity at 100%: 3,660
Date: April 29, 2022
Homeport: Los Angeles to Vancouver 
Length: 5 nights
Itinerary: San Francisco and Victoria

 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24998-princess-cruises-restart-dates-by-ship.html?fbclid=IwAR2QeXiLInotDQpnryyuz3CuNDsCe4yhDO6guDXP99bTNRjNn3tfp-es834

 

I asked my experienced career TA about their credibility & she said CIN is usually pretty reliable and that Princess doesn’t always update their website before changes are announced. CIN states that their info on all Princess ships is based on published deployment data.

 

Time will tell if the Discovery’s info is accurate or not and obviously any COVID-19 changes could change any of the scheduled first sailing dates in this article.

 

Edited by Astro Flyer
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4 hours ago, CynCyn said:

I have an April 2022 cruise booked.  My Medallion does not list Discovery as the ship.  It says Princess Property.  So weird.


I don’t know your April date but my MedallionClass app doesn’t show a ship assigned for our 4/3/22 cruise. Hopefully that’s not an indication that Discovery won’t arrive for our cruises & that it’s just an app glitch.

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7 minutes ago, Astro Flyer said:


I don’t know your April date but my MedallionClass app doesn’t show a ship assigned for our 4/3/22 cruise. Hopefully that’s not an indication that Discovery won’t arrive for our cruises & that it’s just an app glitch.

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

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10 hours ago, NavArch64 said:

Cruise Ship Order Book from Cruise Industry News ....see line 20.

 

2021:

Cruise Line Ship Cost1 Tonnage Capacity Yard Sailing Delivery
DeliveredMSC Cruises Virtuosa $900 177,100 4,888 Chantiers Europe February
DeliveredexpCoral Expeditions Geographer $75 5,500 120 VARD Australia Q1
DeliveredRoyal Caribbean Odyssey $950 167,000 4,200 Meyer Carib March
DeliveredexpQuark Ultramarine $150 13,000 200 Brodosplit World April
DeliveredViking Ocean Viking Venus $400 47,000 930 Fincantieri World April
lngexpPonant Commandant Charcot $324 30,000 270 VARD World May
expSunStone2 Ocean Explorer $65 8,000 140 CMIH World May
expSunStone3 Ocean Victory $65 8,000 186 CMIH World May
Holland America Rotterdam $520 99,000 2,660 Fincantieri Eur/Carib June
expHapag-Lloyd H/Spirit $155 16,100 230 VARD World Q2
expMystic/Atlas World Navigator $80 9,300 200 West Sea World Q2
Emerald Azzurra $100 10,000 100 Halong World Q2
DeliveredSea Cloud Spirit $100 6,000 136 Metalships World Q2
Tradewind Voyages Golden Horizon $100 8,770 300 Brodosplit World Q2
expCrystal Endeavor $390 19,800 200 MV Werften World Q2
Ritz-Carlton Evrima $225 25,000 298 Barreras World Q2
MSC Cruises Seashore $1,100 169,380 4,560 Fincantieri Europe Summer
expSunStone4 Sylvia Earle $65 8,000 130 CMIH World September
expOceanwide Janssonius $85 6,300 174 Brodosplit World October
Princess Discovery Princess $760 141,000 3,660 Fincantieri Eur/Carib October
expLindblad NG Resolution $150 12,000 126 Ulstein World Q3
expSeabourn Venture $225 23,000 264 Mariotti World Q3
lngAIDA Cruises AIDAcosma $950 183,900 5,400 Meyer Europe Q3
Virgin Valiant Lady $710 110,000 2,770 Fincantieri Eur/Carib Q3
expSwan Hellenic Minerva $150 10,000 152 Helsinki World November
Silversea Silver Dawn $380 40,700 596 Fincantieri World Q4
expViking Ocean Viking Octantis $275 30,000 378 VARD World Q4
lngCosta Cruises Toscana $950 183,900 5,224 Meyer Turku South Am Q4

This is an old chart. The Discovery has already been delayed from October 2021 until the spring of 2022.

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7 hours ago, Astro Flyer said:


I don’t know your April date but my MedallionClass app doesn’t show a ship assigned for our 4/3/22 cruise. Hopefully that’s not an indication that Discovery won’t arrive for our cruises & that it’s just an app glitch.

I am also on the 4/03/22 cruise and more and more feeling deflated.  I booked this so long ago and never gave a thought that it would be cancelled.  If they cancel our cruise can we move the benefits (3 for free) I think, to a different cruise or is that just lost?

 

Judy from SW Florida

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The Cruise Industry News chart that I posted may not have been updated yet to show a January 2022 delivery of Discovery Princess from the Fincantieri Monfalcone Italy shipyard. If she is delivered in January 2022, there would be time to sail from the Adriatic westbound across the Mediterranean and Atlantic to a transit of the new Panama Canal locks and then north along the Pacific Coast of Central America and Mexico to San Pedro for a March 1 revenue sailing. It would also not be uncommon to "finish" the ship during this voyage. But, of course, only Carnival Corp and Fincantieri know what the current plan is. As usual, Santa Clarita is not telling us. (I am interested personally as we are booked on the July 3, 2022 sailing from Seattle.)

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I have heard that Royal Class ships do not fit under the Bridge of the Americas. Thus, would have to sail eastbound across the Pacific or around South America. The original plan was to sail to F.L. a few voyages there and then around South America. 

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16 minutes ago, skynight said:

The original plan was to sail to F.L. a few voyages there and then around South America. 

yeah, we had booked the December 9, 2021 - little 4 day cruise to Grand Turk that was changed to Regal - which we cancelled ... bummer

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5 day, not 4, actually 4 on 12/9/21
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7 minutes ago, skynight said:

I have heard that Royal Class ships do not fit under the Bridge of the Americas. Thus, would have to sail eastbound across the Pacific or around South America. The original plan was to sail to F.L. a few voyages there and then around South America. 

Chengkp75. Can you comment on Royal Class ships fitting under the Bridge of the Americas?

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The Royal Princess (and in theory the class) is listed as having a height of 217 feet and a draft of 28 feet. If, and this is a big if, they mean height to be from the keel to the top of the highest mast or structure, then the air draft is 189 feet. Apparently, the air clearance under the center of the Bridge of the Americas at high tide is listed at 201 feet, although it is possible that the local authorities limit the air draft of ships passing beneath to 190 feet. If all of the above is true (and I am not certain that that is so ... I have not measured this myself), then Discovery Princess has 1 foot to spare. However, only Carnival Corp knows for sure.

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She was floated out of the drydock where her initial construction took place. After the hull and superstructure were completed and much of the machinery installed, she could be moved to what is known as an outfitting berth to finish her construction. This allows the shipyard to begin a new hull in that drydock. She is, of course, still in Monfalcone Italy. 

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One more note about the new Panama Canal locks, the chambers are 1400 feet long, 180 feet wide, and 60 feet deep, large enough for Discovery Princess to be comfortable.

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1 hour ago, NavArch64 said:

The Royal Princess (and in theory the class) is listed as having a height of 217 feet and a draft of 28 feet. If, and this is a big if, they mean height to be from the keel to the top of the highest mast or structure, then the air draft is 189 feet. Apparently, the air clearance under the center of the Bridge of the Americas at high tide is listed at 201 feet, although it is possible that the local authorities limit the air draft of ships passing beneath to 190 feet. If all of the above is true (and I am not certain that that is so ... I have not measured this myself), then Discovery Princess has 1 foot to spare. However, only Carnival Corp knows for sure.

 

That 217' number has been around for years but it must be over the keel, not the waterline, as there are some other bridges it wouldn't fit under at 217' above the waterline. Royal Princess has been under the Lions Gate Bridge (Vancouver) which is listed as 200' clearance and I've been under the Storbaelt Bridge in Denmark on Regal Princess which is listed as 213' clearance.

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6 hours ago, Jemnibabe said:

I am also on the 4/03/22 cruise and more and more feeling deflated.  I booked this so long ago and never gave a thought that it would be cancelled.  If they cancel our cruise can we move the benefits (3 for free) I think, to a different cruise or is that just lost?

 

Judy from SW Florida

My TA talked to Princess who stated that cruise is still scheduled to sail so hopefully that means that CIN was wrong.

 

A few days ago Princess notified passengers about a port change (SB replacing Monterrey) after the CIN article was published. It wouldn’t be necessary to send a port change for a cruise that was being canceled, right? 😉

 

Discovery floated out nearly a year before the first scheduled cruise from LA on 3/1/22 which should be sufficient time to complete the ship & to sail it to LA by whatever route possible…via Asia, South America or the Panama Canal. 🤞🤞

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20 hours ago, CynCyn said:

I have an April 2022 cruise booked.  My Medallion does not list Discovery as the ship.  It says Princess Property.  So weird.

We can order our medallions already? I totally forgot about that.

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16 hours ago, Astro Flyer said:

We’re on the Discovery in April however this Cruise Industry News article from 5/15/21 has me concerned about Discovery’s first scheduled cruise.

 

Discovery Princess
Capacity at 100%: 3,660
Date: April 29, 2022
Homeport: Los Angeles to Vancouver 
Length: 5 nights
Itinerary: San Francisco and Victoria

 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24998-princess-cruises-restart-dates-by-ship.html?fbclid=IwAR2QeXiLInotDQpnryyuz3CuNDsCe4yhDO6guDXP99bTNRjNn3tfp-es834

 

I asked my experienced career TA about their credibility & she said CIN is usually pretty reliable and that Princess doesn’t always update their website before changes are announced. CIN states that their info on all Princess ships is based on published deployment data.

 

Time will tell if the Discovery’s info is accurate or not and obviously any COVID-19 changes could change any of the scheduled first sailing dates in this article.

 

Are you saying that the first cruise won’t be until 4/29/22?  Ugh, our cruise is in March.

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When we cruised the canal in 2019 the ships that were north of us going from Caribbean to Pacific  that went through the new locks stayed north and diverted to the  new locks for the Pacific and I do not think they go under any bridge .  

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@Astro Flyerwe have a March cruise on Discovery and that article from 5/15 concerned me as well, but things are constantly changing. Just today Princess has a new update on Alaska sailings starting end of June RT out of Seattle on the Majestic Princess.  
 

https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/alaska-sailings-departing-seattle-in-july-2021.html

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