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We booked our first cruise with Crystal, a 7 day caribbean on Serenity in December. We are veteran cruisers but the last five or six cruises weren’t satisfied with our experiences. The ships of Princess are just too big, we enjoy the size of RC vision class but the last was in terrible condition and bedding was so awful we didn’t sleep well any of the 10 nights. We were disappointed in the food especially on celebrity and RC and although Holland America is probably our favorite, they do seem to roll up the decks at sunset.

We are a middle aged same sex couple, 40 and 50. Working class but well traveled. Both of us prefer quality over quantity and while we aren’t much for loud music or rum soaked parties on the pool deck we do like to go see a show or listen to some live music. We can be social and love making friends and talking to new folks. Seeing as how we are both real true-to-life Texas cowboys we tend to get a lot of questions from folks about our hats or our accents and that often leads to nice conversations and sharing stories. Neither of us are particularly demanding or terribly formal though we do own shirts with collars and it doesn’t take us long to remember how to use a fork and knife and chew with our mouths closed. We don’t particularly drink either.

 

We decided to try Crystal as it seems to offer a smaller ship experience, fewer passengers and more space, good food, a nice spa and a comfortable nights sleep... What are your opinions on if Crystal will be a good fit for us? We don’t mind skewing toward the younger end of the demographic, we get along with everyone. Knowing we will stick out like roosters wearing socks anywhere we go, do you think we will be well received by our fellow passengers? Will we be considered too low-brow? Novelty has its charm but not for everyone I know. Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you all in advance. 

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40 minutes ago, BTwurddle said:

We booked our first cruise with Crystal, a 7 day caribbean on Serenity in December. We are veteran cruisers but the last five or six cruises weren’t satisfied with our experiences. The ships of Princess are just too big, we enjoy the size of RC vision class but the last was in terrible condition and bedding was so awful we didn’t sleep well any of the 10 nights. We were disappointed in the food especially on celebrity and RC and although Holland America is probably our favorite, they do seem to roll up the decks at sunset.

We are a middle aged same sex couple, 40 and 50. Working class but well traveled. Both of us prefer quality over quantity and while we aren’t much for loud music or rum soaked parties on the pool deck we do like to go see a show or listen to some live music. We can be social and love making friends and talking to new folks. Seeing as how we are both real true-to-life Texas cowboys we tend to get a lot of questions from folks about our hats or our accents and that often leads to nice conversations and sharing stories. Neither of us are particularly demanding or terribly formal though we do own shirts with collars and it doesn’t take us long to remember how to use a fork and knife and chew with our mouths closed. We don’t particularly drink either.

 

We decided to try Crystal as it seems to offer a smaller ship experience, fewer passengers and more space, good food, a nice spa and a comfortable nights sleep... What are your opinions on if Crystal will be a good fit for us? We don’t mind skewing toward the younger end of the demographic, we get along with everyone. Knowing we will stick out like roosters wearing socks anywhere we go, do you think we will be well received by our fellow passengers? Will we be considered too low-brow? Novelty has its charm but not for everyone I know. Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you all in advance. 

 

Personally, I cruise with Crystal for all of the reasons you listed.  (Food, ambiance, scale, service, etc.)

 

I'm a single gay man in my mid-40's, and I definitely don't fit Crystal's standard passenger profile -- for my age, sexual orientation, or income bracket.  That said, the VAST majority of passengers on Crystal are as social and welcoming of me as anyone else, and the ones that aren't wouldn't be any more welcoming of me on any other cruise line or kind of vacation, so forget 'em.  There are always exceptions, but I find the average Crystal passenger to be pretty worldly, well mannered and very interesting -- perfect companions for any journey -- even if we don't exactly have the same background or perspective.

 

There are obnoxious people everywhere.  Someone is always going to look down on you for something, because that's just how they get their self-esteem.  I don't find Crystal's passengers judge you for your background or style, as much as they read you for your respect of the onboard culture.  Personally, that's where you might want to look the closest.  I would read things like the dress codes, and see if those work for you.  Adhering to the dress code and respecting the ambiance onboard shows the other passengers that you respect them, and IME, from there they seem more than happy to respect others from all kinds of different walks of life.  You don't have to dress fancy, or any any particular style, you just have to make choices that keep things within the guidelines.

 

Just my experience...

 

Vince

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Thank you both. As far as the dress code, it does sound a bit more formal than we are accustomed to but I doubt it will be enough so to turn us off. The feeling I get is it’s what we used to call “country-club-casual” more or less. During the day except for the pool deck we usually wear nice cargo or canvas shorts and nice tees, those can be swapped for twills and polos with no problem. I’m sure a pair of nice leather sandals or slips would be acceptable during the daytime? Evenings we usually opt for nice trousers and a tailored shirt. Slipping on a blazer a few nights won’t be much inconvenience at all. During port days however we do tend to go for active excursions...atvs, ziplines, ect so we can come back rather ragged but we make it a point to get back to our cabin for a shower and change as quickly as possible. We’ve always enjoyed dinner in the dining room but I’ve always hated when someone comes in to dinner in a swimsuit or hiking shorts or a strapless dress worn over a bra that isn’t. You don’t have to put on the dog but they could show some decorum. Barring its way more formal than I expect we will probably enjoy the change.

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I am following on from Vince's comment (above) that -- "I don't find Crystal's passengers judge you for your background or style, as much as they read you for your respect of the onboard culture."

 

An important part of the Crystal onboard culture is giving the skilled and considerate crew members the respect that they so richly deserve.

 

In my experience, those who are rude to any of the crew are quickly judged to be "not our sort of people", as my dear Grandmother would remark with a sniff.  😊

 

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I would have to agree with you whole heartedly. Class isn’t determined by wealth, power or position but by our relation to those around us. Some folks, on any cruise line so far as I’ve seen, can’t recognize the difference in staff and servants. One is nothing like the other.

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41 minutes ago, BTwurddle said:

Thank you both. As far as the dress code, it does sound a bit more formal than we are accustomed to but I doubt it will be enough so to turn us off. The feeling I get is it’s what we used to call “country-club-casual” more or less. During the day except for the pool deck we usually wear nice cargo or canvas shorts and nice tees, those can be swapped for twills and polos with no problem. I’m sure a pair of nice leather sandals or slips would be acceptable during the daytime? Evenings we usually opt for nice trousers and a tailored shirt. Slipping on a blazer a few nights won’t be much inconvenience at all. During port days however we do tend to go for active excursions...atvs, ziplines, ect so we can come back rather ragged but we make it a point to get back to our cabin for a shower and change as quickly as possible. We’ve always enjoyed dinner in the dining room but I’ve always hated when someone comes in to dinner in a swimsuit or hiking shorts or a strapless dress worn over a bra that isn’t. You don’t have to put on the dog but they could show some decorum. Barring its way more formal than I expect we will probably enjoy the change.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head with all of those descriptions...  Especially on a 7-night itinerary, and especially in the Caribbean.  Country Club Casual is pretty much exactly what the casual night dress code is, and IIRC, that's all there is on 7-day itineraries.  On the flip side, Symphony's 10-day Caribbean itineraries only have 1 quasi-formal night ("black tie optional"), and even that just requires you to put in a dinner jacket, like you said...  No big deal, if you don't want to make it more than that.

 

I agree (as usual) with Emily 200% too...  Once you meet the Crystal crew, I'm sure you'll start to think of many of them as family, and couldn't imagine disrespecting them in any possible way!

 

Vince

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Don't give being younger, Texans, same-sex couple, or whatever a second thought.

Most of us are so thrilled to be able to travel with other vaccinated people that I imagine this will be a very happy crowd.

You sound considerate and fun and I'm sure you will have a great time meeting new people!

 

 


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We are a same sex couple in our 50s and have travelled on Crystal many times(three booked in the next year).  It is our favorite cruise line when we aren't travelling with our kids.  The reasons why I prefer Crystal over the other luxury cruise lines are very personal, but I think many apply to you.  For a luxury cruise line, I feel that Crystal has the best entertainment.  Their production shows are very good, and they have guest entertainers on that are more similar to the mainstream cruise lines.    Food quality is also excellent, the fellow passengers are very nice and I won't repeat what's been said above about fellow passengers except to say I agree.  For me, I also do enjoy some gambling and Crystal has the nicest sized casino of any luxury lines, plus it is completely non smoking and tables are reasonable.  The only thing I can tell you is you will be on the younger side of the demographic, but I do find that Crystal has more fit and young at heart passengers and since you've already said that's not an issue I'm sure it won't be.  Enjoy your cruise!

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We first started cruising with Crystal in 2000, we were 45/40 at the time, and never felt out of place. As long as you don't wear your "cowboy" hats in the Dining Room at dinner time (a LONG thread about baseball caps several years ago), you will fit right in!🙂

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I love the diversity on Crystal, in terms of passengers, staff at the spa and shops, crew and officers, and ports! Some of my favorite passengers are from "lands down under" although it is not likely they can be onboard in 2021. Yes all the entertainment and food and drink are all so creative and fresh. You will find almost everyone is just happy to be there and have a good time. 

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Hope we cross paths onboard at some point; you sound like you’d fit in perfectly!  As a same-sex couple (57/54) doing 1 or more cruises per year for 20 years, we’ve found Crystal and it’s competitors to be our best fit when it comes to vacations with lasting positive impact.  Can’t wait to board Serenity on July 3rd for the start of the Bahamas cruises!

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BTwurdlle...We took the plunge with Crystal when we were 47 and 46 respectively and like others have said love it from the beginning.  

 

As they say you'll never know for sure whether Crystal will be a fit for you both but based on what you have posted my sense is you will greatly enjoy it.  

 

Many years ago Celebrity was a go to cruise line for us and we sailed Princess three consecutive years and made the plunge over to Crystal Cruises and I would tell you within 24 hours we knew we found our cruising home and we experienced many positives on Crystal above the other lines we had sailed. 

 

Wishing you both a wonderful cruise and I look forward to hearing what you think about your first experience with Crystal.

 

Keith

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5 hours ago, Roland4 said:

As long as you don't wear your "cowboy" hats in the Dining Room at dinner time (a LONG thread about baseball caps several years ago), you will fit right in!🙂

 

Funny you should mention that - it was the first thing that sprung to my mind.  I can't think why....😁

 

Anne...🤠

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Oh no worries! That’s covered in the cowboy-Bible... In the book of Heiferodomy 7:13. - And thou shalt remove thine hat from thine head whenst thou eats in of doors. 14. - Thou shalt too remove thine spurs from upon thine boots before dancing on tables lest there be smoted in the presence of polite company.

 

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Thank you all for your kind replies! Very much looking forward to a new adventure now!

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Hi BTwurddle ..yes you will be at home with crystal... I have posted on the crystal threads before and had been quoted as maybe a snob ... Couldn't be further from the truth... I had made a comment that the Caribbean sailings were in the UK being sold  very cheap & therefore may attract a different cruise passenger base  & not the experience I'm accustomed to( woops big mistake!!)  My husband & I have many friends of same sex & my sister also in that bracket!!! So never a problem with us!!!. We have enjoyed a couple of crystal cruises under our belt next one April 2022 Greece& the holyland ( if that happens) our favourite line is silversea as it was our first luxury line in 2005 after 40plus with mainstream lines ( no problem with them but that was 35 years ago we were younger & louder then ...)  We enjoy meeting people from all walks of life and also enjoy a Boggie many a night!!! Ref dress code yes Caribbean will be a little more relaxed but my husband what ever the dress code were ever in the world  always dresses for dinner

Photo of him on last causal night in Monte Carlo ..that's his interpretation of causal lol... But getting back to your question yes you will have a fabulous cruise & find it hard to go back to mainstream ...would luv to be cruising but will leave it until 2022 ...ps..

On our first silversea cruise we meet a lovely man with a  cowboy hat and was a little offended when I asked if he was from Texas!!! No California was his reply where they were from originally..is that correct ..???

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6 hours ago, Jayayeff said:

 

Funny you should mention that - it was the first thing that sprung to my mind.  I can't think why....😁

 

Anne...🤠

believe it or not but that happened (hat ) years ago in the Queens Grill  on QE2

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Vistaman mentioned the QE2.  That is a great option for everyone, including and especially same sex couples.  They are very welcoming and even have specific events and cocktail parties for rainbow friends. It is a bit more formal, but I personally like that.  

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29 minutes ago, scottjeanne said:

Vistaman mentioned the QE2.  That is a great option for everyone, including and especially same sex couples.  They are very welcoming and even have specific events and cocktail parties for rainbow friends. It is a bit more formal, but I personally like that.  

 

I'm in agreement, as Cunard is my second-most cruised line behind Crystal...  I do find Crystal overall slightly more gay-friendly than Cunard though, but I think both do a great job.  Crystal also offers get-togethers and such when there are a significant number of us onboard, and I've met many friends from CC at those parties.  If there is a downside to the smaller ships of Crystal it's that isn't guaranteed on every cruise the way it's more likely to be on Cunard, but that said the atmosphere from the perspective of the crew and most of the passengers couldn't be more positive on Crystal.  That said, the far superior food and service on Crystal more than make up for the less frequent events to me, but that's a very subjective and personal value proposition.  🙂 

 

Vince

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1 hour ago, scottjeanne said:

Vistaman mentioned the QE2.  That is a great option for everyone, including and especially same sex couples.  They are very welcoming and even have specific events and cocktail parties for rainbow friends. It is a bit more formal, but I personally like that.  

If you like the “stuffy for no reason “ atmosphere QG is perfect.

 

Hopefully you will be welcomed on Crystal and have a great time.

Texans are more fun! 

 

 

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We have a friend who was reluctant to sail on Crystal because he was not highly educated or sophisticated.  One sailing and those feelings disappeared.  Everyone is welcome on Crystal.  The myth of "stuffiness" is just a myth.

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1 hour ago, BWIVince said:

 

I'm in agreement, as Cunard is my second-most cruised line behind Crystal...  I do find Crystal overall slightly more gay-friendly than Cunard though, but I think both do a great job.  Crystal also offers get-togethers and such when there are a significant number of us onboard, and I've met many friends from CC at those parties.  If there is a downside to the smaller ships of Crystal it's that isn't guaranteed on every cruise the way it's more likely to be on Cunard, but that said the atmosphere from the perspective of the crew and most of the passengers couldn't be more positive on Crystal.  That said, the far superior food and service on Crystal more than make up for the less frequent events to me, but that's a very subjective and personal value proposition.  🙂 

 

Vince

 

We are Cunard loyalists - mainly by virtual of being ship buffs - but are very much looking forward to our first trip on Crystal in July.  I had wondered how same sex couples would be welcomed, so it's been good to read all of the replies above.  My main concern now is that Crystal will make Cunard look bad.  High end problems indeed.  So happy to be traveling again!  

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23 minutes ago, ClipperinSFO said:

 

We are Cunard loyalists - mainly by virtual of being ship buffs - but are very much looking forward to our first trip on Crystal in July.  I had wondered how same sex couples would be welcomed, so it's been good to read all of the replies above.  My main concern now is that Crystal will make Cunard look bad.  High end problems indeed.  So happy to be traveling again!  

 

I like Cunard's product -- I think the price difference for standard/balcony accommodations is completely in proportion with the difference in quality and both deliver a great value, just at different levels...  And how much people value those differences and find they're worth paying for is COMPLETELY personal.  

 

Cunard's food is very good overall, but it's all high-quality "scoop and serve" in the main dining rooms, even  most of the daily menu items in the Grills.  Crystal's mains get a LOT more individual attention, and a lot of the entrees in Waterside are a la minute.  Each has their strengths, but if you're enough of a foodie, the difference is really pronounced.

 

I've definitely been spoiled by Crystal and in some ways I do find it hard to go back to premium and mass-market lines, but the cost difference definitely gives me a big appreciation for both.

 

Vince

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33 minutes ago, BWIVince said:

 

I like Cunard's product -- I think the price difference for standard/balcony accommodations is completely in proportion with the difference in quality and both deliver a great value, just at different levels...  And how much people value those differences and find they're worth paying for is COMPLETELY personal.  

 

Cunard's food is very good overall, but it's all high-quality "scoop and serve" in the main dining rooms, even  most of the daily menu items in the Grills.  Crystal's mains get a LOT more individual attention, and a lot of the entrees in Waterside are a la minute.  Each has their strengths, but if you're enough of a foodie, the difference is really pronounced.

 

I've definitely been spoiled by Crystal and in some ways I do find it hard to go back to premium and mass-market lines, but the cost difference definitely gives me a big appreciation for both.

 

Vince

Hi Vince I remember now you & Roland 4 almost  made a comment that theres always 

Those who  ( can't quite remember the word .. another thread !!)  not snob  but quote .( there always some people will look down there nose!!!) 

I also have cruised Cunard but I found the old British class system still applies!!!( Not for me & I'm British!!) 

Separate lifts& stairs for them above ... How old fashioned is that & I'm being judged about passenger base on 7 day crystal...

Crystal is all the same wherever you have top class cabin or joy blogs standard cabin once outside your all the same ..no big badge ..I'm in Princess/ gueen class ...

And I'm being  judged lol !!!

Silversea.Crystal & regent in that order me...

And I can fit in  any of these lines ..& I'm not very educated..but just normal & good fun 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Very interesting thread.  Love the comments and the feedback.  A couple of comments:

  • The Word Affluent:  I once used the word Affluent when describing the kind of cruise I wanted to go on. The responses did not go well.  The elephant in the room was it came a cross as putting folks in classes.  Not what I meant and I paid the price for saying it that way.
  • Improved Cruise Experience:  I also wanted an improved cruise experience.  Not just in one area, in all areas.  This will be my wife and my first Crystal Cruise.  I have no doubt that will be the case.
  • Crew Members Respect:  We have all seen crew members treated horribly.  Unacceptable.  The number one "Like" that crew members talk about is receiving a thank you and a smile. 
  • Being Judged:  Regardless of your orientation, humans should judge other humans as equals.  We are social and on a cruise we should never be judgmental.  Doesn't mean we like everyone we meet, but we are open to everyone we meet. It is a cruise vacation and everyone wants to have a good time.
  • My Hopefully Favorite Part of Cruising Crystal: Once I leave my stateroom, I will be treated like everyone else.  When I travel on a Mainstream Cruise Brand, I usually book the VIP section.  They all have different names.  Once you leave that VIP area, it becomes obvious the personalized treatment is lost. All my research tells me this will not happen on Crystal.  That is all I ask and is what I am looking forward to the most.

Again, great thread and feedback. 

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