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Will You cancel Your Upcoming Cruises if Royal Caribbean Doesn't Require Vaccinations


If Royal Caribbean Doesn't Require Vaccinations will you cancel your cruise?  

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  1. 1. How Do You Feel About Royal Caribbean not requesting vaccinations

    • We will cancel our upcoming cruise(s) if Royal Caribbean does not require vaccinations
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    • We Don't have concerns with with Royal Caribbean not Requiring Vaccinations
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17 minutes ago, Heymarco said:

Next time you have a thought, keep it to yourself rather than posting on public forum.

 

No need to reply.

I'll post where I want and expect that anyone reading my post will understand simple requests like....

No need to quote it and tell me why I'm wrong or that I need to look at doing something else.

 

Thanks anyways.  

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19 minutes ago, cindivan said:

 Very unclear right now what the policy will be. RC just did their 180 yesterday so a lot is unknown. CDC has different rules for ships that don’t have 95% vaccinated passengers. It will be interesting to see for sure!

The CDC says the entire ship will be treated as unvaccinated, RCL has no say in it. 

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2 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Everyone on board will be treated as unvaccinated. Masks, distancing, controlled access. 

I would cruise anyway, but my DH will probably cancel us on Monday. Doggone!

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57 minutes ago, Jasukkie said:

So how would he know he has it? He tested negative, he thinks he picked up a cold on the plane. He's coughing, but it's not covid, because he had a negative test, so no worries right? Maybe he only gives it to a few people, but one of them is obese and diabetic, and in a few days, they need to be evacuated. And the media pounces. 

You just summed up the standard risk of any cruise ever. We are back to where things were before, thanks for confirming.

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5 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Everyone on board will be treated as unvaccinated. Masks, distancing, controlled access. 

 

I don't think this is correct. I think they have two types of staus for cruisers. Vaccinated and Non-Vaccinated. Then offer a 'status upgrade' at free of charge when you upload a vaccine record.  

 

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35 minutes ago, coldflame said:

Depends. If CSO is relaxed so that on-board or on-shore cases won't require the itinerary to be cancelled, yes. If the guidance that a small percent of the PAX population causes trip to terminate and under quarantine remains, then yes. If really depends how CSO guidance changes.

Come to think I think, I probably confused Royal communication with CSO. What If My Cruise Returns Early Due to Confirmed Cases Onboard? | Royal Caribbean Cruises but I know I'm not taking crazy pills. I saw it written either on Royal a news article or somewhere about positives above certain threshold results in early termination of the trip.

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3 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

I don't think this is correct. I think they have two types of staus for cruisers. Vaccinated and Non-Vaccinated. Then offer a 'status upgrade' at free of charge when you upload a vaccine record.  To allow one to 'upgrade' to a vaccinated status by offering. 

 

I thought they were not allowed to ask about proof of vaccine.

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2 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

I don't think this is correct. I think they have two types of staus for cruisers. Vaccinated and Non-Vaccinated. Then offer a 'status upgrade' at free of charge when you upload a vaccine record.  To allow one to 'upgrade' to a vaccinated status by offering. 

 

The CSO as is currently registered does not allow for this distinction. 
There are only vaccinated (verified) and unvaccinated; in the absence of achieving a 95% verified vaccinated state, the entire ship is viewed as unvaccinated. 

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7 minutes ago, tinkertwo said:

I'll post where I want and expect that anyone reading my post will understand simple requests like....

No need to quote it and tell me why I'm wrong or that I need to look at doing something else.

 

Thanks anyways.  

I didn’t tell you that your were wrong, I asked you some questions. Again, if you can’t take it, don’t post. ❄️ ❄️ ❄️ 
 

Not sure why you feel the need to reply to me, yet you tell me to not reply to you. Feels like a double standard.

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3 minutes ago, Heymarco said:

I didn’t tell you that your were wrong, I asked you some questions. Again, if you can’t take it, don’t post. ❄️ ❄️ ❄️ 
 

Not sure why you feel the need to reply to me, yet you tell me to not reply to you. Feels like a double standard.

Again, I'll post when I want to post.  

 

Thanks for playing

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11 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

I don't think this is correct. I think they have two types of staus for cruisers. Vaccinated and Non-Vaccinated. Then offer a 'status upgrade' at free of charge when you upload a vaccine record.  

 

Sorry he is correct. I know you keep saying you arent wearing a mask, the cdc requires it.

 

The whole ship is treated as unvaccinated. You should read the cdc before you keep insisting the cdc protocols dont apply to you. 

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10 minutes ago, coldflame said:

Come to think I think, I probably confused Royal communication with CSO. What If My Cruise Returns Early Due to Confirmed Cases Onboard? | Royal Caribbean Cruises but I know I'm not taking crazy pills. I saw it written either on Royal a news article or somewhere about positives above certain threshold results in early termination of the trip.


I don’t know where else it is, but I saw it on the Carnival website under Travel Alerts. If a certain level of Covid is detected, the cruise is terminated, and the ship will return to port.  There is a link to the CDC, but I did not look further.

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1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Royal has been sailing in Singapore since last December and other cruise lines have been sailing in Europe without any vaccinated passengers and no major outbreaks. 

I am not sure it is fair to compare their Singapore sailings to the way sailings would happen in the  US. Singapore as a whole has been much more aggressive in tackling Covid. They do full contact tracing on land, wear masks everywhere, had no 2nd or 3rd wave like some states here in the US, and have largely been fine since Aug of last year. The Quantum was sailing @ max 50% capacity, no ports of call, masks, social distancing, full contact tracing on the ship.

 

Last month, they had a situation of 46 Covid cases on land (not even related to the cruise ship) and they implemented the following on the Quantum as a precaution

  • Quantum of the Seas is set to sail at 25% occupancy capacity
  • Group sizes will be limited to two guests per cabin booking.
  • Guest occupancy in public venues will be reduced accordingly, allowing for at least 16 sqm per guest, while theatres will be limited to 50 attendees for each show.
  • Heightened limits will apply to all pools and hot tubs and also at SeaPlex.
  • For dining, we have made adjustments to offer takeaway options, and guests will also enjoy a wide range of choices for room service. 

So yeah, if we were as aggressive in combating Covid as they have been, we too could sail ships @ 25% capacity with masks everywhere and food only in your stateroom. To cite them as an example of cruising without an outbreak woudl only apply if we were going to sail from the US under similar protocols. We won't.

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5 minutes ago, tinkertwo said:

Again, I'll post when I want to post.  

 

Thanks for playing

And I’ll quote who I want to quote (a very common feature on this forum, and its normal to progress conversations in real life too). Welcome to Cruise Critic!

 

Thanks for playing.

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2 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

They aren't. But one can upload or voluntarily show their record. 

That may be how they get proof of vaccination so there is no fine in Florida.

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3 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

Sorry he is correct. I know you keep saying you arent wearing a mask, the cdc requires it.

 

The whole ship is treated as unvaccinated. You should read the cdc before you keep insisting the cdc protocols dont apply to you. 

 

Heck I never said they didn't apply to me... Hell I'm not on a ship until Aug 202. By then the world will be rediscovered. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

Once your vax record this is shown/uploaded 'voluntarily' ,  you'll be allowed to go 'freely' w/ a different type/color of 'tracelet'. RCL is very good at this.

I will believe this when I see it. I expect some to call this out as being even more "big brother" than requiring the vaccine in the first place.

 

1 hour ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

It's my belief that the real issue with most cruisers will be the ability to enjoy a cruise w/o invasive covid protocals, and not the issue of 100% vaxed cruises. If they make too uncomfortable for non-vaxers to go on a cruise, they won't go or they vax up. If they make comfortable & covid free protocals for vaxed cruisers, they'll get on a ship & go. 

 

It appears thar RCL has decided to actually police the cruisers. It should be very interesting to see how the herd the masses from one another and keep the vaxers & non vaxers seperated.

 

 

This I agree with. If they truly make it so difficult for non-vaccinated to go that they either cancel, or decide to vax, then this makes sense but only if they police it. They also need to the CDC to continue to adjust their policies to allow vaccinated to go mask free everywhere on a sailing with under 95% vaccinated on the ship. fingers crossed.

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1 minute ago, Babr said:

That may be how they get proof of vaccination so there is no fine in Florida.

Rcl isnt doing partially vaccinated cruises. It's one or the other. They choose unvaccinated. So cdc does require masks worn by all. They arent going around checking who is and who isnt.

 

I'm not a cdc fan. I think they are ruining cruises, but nothing I can do. I'm not going to refuse to wear a mask.

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26 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Everyone on board will be treated as unvaccinated. Masks, distancing, controlled access. 

Not from what I saw posted on the blog.  No mask restriction for vaccinated.  Masks and other restrictions in certain areas for unvaccinated. 

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2 minutes ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

Heck I never said they didn't apply to me... Hell I'm not on a ship until Aug 202. By then the world will be rediscovered. 

 

 

Ok you talk of uploading your vaccine card. I'm just sticking with how the rules are now. 

 

Cant read the date, you can still edit the year. 202 .. 2022? 2023?

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Just now, firefly333 said:

Ok you talk of uploading your vaccine card. I'm just sticking with how the rules are now. 

 

Cant read the date, you can still edit the year. 202 .. 2022? 2023?

 

2022.

 

Actually there are no rules 'officially' in play at this very moment. 

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Several people were saying those who don’t want a vaccine don’t have to cruise and can wait. It’s funny seeing the sides now reversed. Sadly, still no empathy. Wish would could just respect each other’s decisions, understand life always carries some risk, and move on.

 

-Vaxed but believe it should remain an unrestricted choice.

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2 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Not from what I saw posted on the blog.  No mask restriction for vaccinated.  Masks and other restrictions in certain areas for unvaccinated. 

 

You can't really tell anybody anything. It's as if they know Michael Bzailey and had coffee w/ him this morning.  

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2 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

Rcl isnt doing partially vaccinated cruises. It's one or the other. They choose unvaccinated. So cdc does require masks worn by all. They arent going around checking who is and who isnt.

 

I'm not a cdc fan. I think they are ruining cruises, but nothing I can do. I'm not going to refuse to wear a mask.

I guess I was thinking of the 95% requirement. They still have to verify vaccination,

correct?

 

Yes, I agree that the rule applies to all on unvaccinated cruises.

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