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Will You cancel Your Upcoming Cruises if Royal Caribbean Doesn't Require Vaccinations


If Royal Caribbean Doesn't Require Vaccinations will you cancel your cruise?  

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I have too many bad memories of cruises gone bad from last year; so I will cancel any cruise which is not fully vaccinated.  I will not book any cruise which is not fully vaccinated.  I think for the first few months of cruising then these strict protocols should be in effect.  We want to keep cruising open and don't want to doom it in the first few cruises.

If RCI is so short sighted and did not learn any lessons from the past then they might be doomed for the future.

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10 hours ago, Goodtime Cruizin said:

 

I think you're incorrect on your thoughts of this. The CDCwill most likely allow a 'difference between the two types of cruisers in an effort to help convince people to vax up. Time will tell. 

I have to agree with this with this. On the news the other day they were reporting all of the incentives different states were offering. They didn’t say which state was offering a free cruise but West Virginia was offering a free gun. More and more Children are coming into the store to be vaccinated and at the same time the parents are getting passport photos of them. NY is vaccinating 12 and up. I don’t know where the rest of the country stands.

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I am curious what the protocols at the ports will be. The current cruises are not sailing from the US so either have all adults vaccinated or do not have any port stops (Singapore). I wonder if we will now need to book ship excursions in order to get off the ship, as the vaccinated cruises don't require this. Also curious if some of the scheduled ports will now deny the ship access since all passengers are not vaccinated. Hopefully Royal will make this information available in a timely enough manner so those booked can make a decision whether they want to sail or not. 

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7 hours ago, ChuckRambo said:

Ever heard of a logical fallacy? How about non sequitur...has that one ever crossed your radar?

 

RC is not a school.

 

Schools are typically required by state law (not federal law) to have proof of immunization for minors. There is a specific carve out in HIPAA that allows parents (and students 18 and over) to give permission to a school  to access medical records of a minor. Those parents not wishing to grant permission are free to home school their children and many do. There is no exception in HIPAA for cruise lines. 

HIPAA doe not apply to school vaccinations either 

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1 hour ago, Demongear said:

Here is an outside the box idea on how to satisfy everybody. Royal has multiple ships doing the same durations and similar itineraries, ie: 3&4 night Bahamas out of PC and Miami. Make 1 ship that proof of vaccinations are required and 1 ship where they are not. Then people can make a choice just like we make a choice in what cruise to book. It could also set a delta for the cruise industry as to what the numbers of infection flare-ups are for on each type of cruise. 

It would be interesting to see how the ships book and how prices fluctuate between the different ships.  I can see a vaccinated person changing to a unvaccinated ship if there is a dramatic price drop and vice versa.

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No, just wish they would open up earlier. Have talked to many people who either had COVID or were exposed to COVID who will not be getting the vaccination. How many people have had COVID twice or that their tests were not accurate? One person tested negative on several tests until their doctor ran a blood test and they had it. A family relative, in college had 4 roommates and three had COVID and were asymptomatic. A lot more people have built in immunities so as long as I am vaccinated let’s go!

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Just now, librarylady19 said:

“Never heard of CDC” - guess you never heard of Ebola or AIDS either then. Not allowed in Texas?

Of course I've heard of the names of those diseases, just never was forced to lay attention to the cdc and their biases  ...  like being told by teachers what to say and kids sit home on zoom. I'm outraged and wish someone would fire them. Political body. Dont follow science. No studies proving staying locked up was better than opening. ..mistake after mistake. Bunch of idiots controlling my cruises. 

 

I'd like to go back to ignoring them. I don't tolerate idiots well.

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17 hours ago, wingatesl said:

The vaccination status of others will not affect my choice to cruise. The only reason the coronavirus affected it is because they were shut down. 

 

this x 100!

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16 hours ago, Blauelini said:

No worries, by September at the latest RCCL will have  Covid outbreak on one of their ships due to this policy. Media will pounce,  images of people in biohazard suits escorting people off the ship will be broadcast nationwide. RCCL will change their policy overnight for fear of being being shutdown by the CDC.

It will be far too late to change their policy with this scenario.  It potentially shuts down the entire cruise industry again.

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1 hour ago, Iamcruzin said:

More and more Children are coming into the store to be vaccinated and at the same time the parents are getting passport photos of them. NY is vaccinating 12 and up. I don’t know where the rest of the country stands.

Very true.  Making the claim that a 100% vaccinated cruise on a family based cruise would never sell.

 

GET VACCINATED... IT IS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE WITHOUT WAITING AND AT NO CHARGE..

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35 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

One of the hospitals I cover in Dallas treated the first Ebola patient in the US


Oh wow.  I remember the news coverage of that case.   Have a lot of respect for you and the medical community and hospital workers who are confronted with these diseases. 

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18 hours ago, Kokomo91165 said:

This is a safety issue, not a human rights or liberties issue. 
 

My right to be safe and enjoy a vacation should not be trumped by people refusing to get vaccinated and wanting the same treatment as those that are. 
 

This is a bait and switch. We all booked cruises under the policy of vaccines. Now they just decide to change it?  Irresponsible and unconscionable. 

Yes!  What about the rights of the people who would like the option to be able to sail on a fully vaccinated cruise?  Those who don’t want to get vaccinated have the option of waiting for the test cruises to be completed.   
 

I just don’t understand what is wrong with giving people a choice.

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17 hours ago, Blauelini said:

No worries, by September at the latest RCCL will have  Covid outbreak on one of their ships due to this policy. Media will pounce,  images of people in biohazard suits escorting people off the ship will be broadcast nationwide. RCCL will change their policy overnight for fear of being being shutdown by the CDC.

My thoughts exactly. The cruise environment has notoriously been a place where germs seem to thrive. From buffets to large groups of relaxed passengers, germs from noro to colds have always been a risk. If there is a COVID outbreak on a cruise ship, it will be covered by the press and once again this weakened industry will take a damaging hit. Vaccinations may not end COVID on a ship, but will lessen it dramatically as it has on land. 

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Maybe RC should offer ships with fully vaccinated (95% plus) and ships with vaccine optional. At least for the initial startup. 
 

People could book the one they prefer.🤷‍♂️

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17 hours ago, Blauelini said:

No worries, by September at the latest RCCL will have  Covid outbreak on one of their ships due to this policy. Media will pounce,  images of people in biohazard suits escorting people off the ship will be broadcast nationwide. RCCL will change their policy overnight for fear of being being shutdown by the CDC.

Yep, my concern is not whether I will be at risk for infection or not. Being fully vacc'd I don't expect to contract Covid, and if I do, I expect to live through it. At home I eat at restaurants that have 100% capacity, no longer wear a mask in businesses I frequent (they've all removed their 'masks required' from their entry doors), etc.  What my concern is, say 10% or more of the pax on an open,  non-vacc cruise comes down with Covid, somehow, that could be a high enough number of pax to cause the line to either alter their ports (because they may prohibit the ship from docking), cause a return to home port to unload the infected pax, or in some other way alter the original schedule so they could medically attend to the pax that are infected and overwhelming the ship's medical services.

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14 hours ago, divincenzo said:

Who's to say Caribbean countries will even allow non-vaxed people disembark?  

Good point. This could be an issue at any port.  You can get on the ship, but must show proof of vaccination to go ashore! 
 

But I don’t cruise the Caribbean for the ports, so maybe others won’t mind staying on the ship. 

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If RC un-vaxxed cruises have to wear masks now and NCL fully vaxxed cruises don't have to wear masks...  then yeah we are definitely cancelling

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7 minutes ago, JsMom2 said:

Good point. This could be an issue at any port.  You can get on the ship, but must show proof of vaccination to go ashore! 
 

But I don’t cruise the Caribbean for the ports, so maybe others won’t mind staying on the ship. 

Cruises going to their cays in short duration will make out.  Shorter ones will profit. It is for the more economically minded and /or partying people.  The cruise lines know this. But the longer cruises are in the way because of the politics of people who want more power.

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This negates the big picture though and is only focusing on cruising. If you're truly concerned about only being around vaccinated people, living life in general would also have to create big issues for you, not just the cruise. How do you know the people you grocery shop next to are vaccinated? Or at work? Do you currently go to the movies, restaurants, what about that? How do you know the people you're flying with are vaccinated? Once you're off the ship and on an excursion, how do you know the people you're around are vaccinated? What about those nice tight lines in customs with people jammed together! 😉 My point is that if it's truly an issue of grave concern I would imagine it's just best you stay home, because the truth is, you don't know the medical information of the people you're around just by living life day-to-day. 

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We are booked on Anthem December 31, 2021 out of Bayonne.

 

Our decision will have less to do with allowing unvaccinated folks on the ship (our family is fully vaccinated), and more to do with RCI's approach should Covid infiltrate the ship.

 

I intermingle with unvaccinated people all the time in stores, restaurants, etc. so I'm not worried about getting Covid on a ship any more than I would be worried anywhere else.

 

The issue for me is how RCI will handle a positive case, should it appear on board. Pre-screenings don't always work: Golfer John Rahm was contact traced last Monday as coming into contact with a Covid positive, and he was tested every day until Saturday when he finally tested positive (twice), disqualifying him from a tournament. The other players will be allowed to continue the tournament and spectators will be allowed, without masks.

 

As long as RCI has a plan that meets my expectations should a case arise, I'm going to sail; if they don't I'll cancel and re-book. It would be unacceptable to me to: force me to wear a mask when I'm vaccinated and have proof via NYS Excelsior Pass; quarantine an entire ship because of a case or cases; force me to stay in my stateroom for 14 days because I came in contact with a Covid positive; abandon ports of call or dis-embarkments because of a case; etc.

 

If RCI has a plan to handle cases on the ship that doesn't disrupt the sailing, I'll go; if not, I'll cancel, even if they claim 95%, 98% or 100% covid vaccinated. 

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I can’t help but think that, at least during the time the CSO is still active, families with kids under vaccination age may not have the cruise vacation they anticipate.    Protocols haven’t been rolled out for the kids yet, but if masking, reduced capacity and social distancing indoors are mandated, that could really impact families’ use of Adventure Ocean or Nursery.   
 

Our family has multi-generational cruise vacations, so I’m not anti-children at all.  I just can’t imagine some families’ experience who depend on kids facilities will be the same while CSO is in effect.    
 

imho these measures will be temporary until CSO is canceled (hopefully not extended!).

 

 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, lr657 said:

I am curious what the protocols at the ports will be. The current cruises are not sailing from the US so either have all adults vaccinated or do not have any port stops (Singapore). I wonder if we will now need to book ship excursions in order to get off the ship, as the vaccinated cruises don't require this. Also curious if some of the scheduled ports will now deny the ship access since all passengers are not vaccinated. Hopefully Royal will make this information available in a timely enough manner so those booked can make a decision whether they want to sail or not. 

I bet it would start a chain reaction of cancelations if you can’t leave the ship without being on a sponsored tour. The unvaccinated are the same people who pitched a be atch about wearing a mask in Walmart during the thick of the pandemic

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1 hour ago, firefly333 said:

Of course I've heard of the names of those diseases, just never was forced to lay attention to the cdc and their biases  ...  like being told by teachers what to say and kids sit home on zoom. I'm outraged and wish someone would fire them. Political body. Dont follow science. No studies proving staying locked up was better than opening. ..mistake after mistake. Bunch of idiots controlling my cruises. 

 

I'd like to go back to ignoring them. I don't tolerate idiots well.

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. 🤠

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