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Passenger space on Nieuw Statendam? Does it feel crowded?


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I was looking at Cruisemapper and found a section on passenger space. NS and Konigsdam have a 31 and other ships at least a 34. 36 for the Zuiderdam which we have sailed on two time recently. Well, before shutdown.

Does Nieuw Statendam feel crowed?  cafeteria crowded?

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I have never felt crowded on this class of ship.  The Lido can be busy  at lunch time but it is very roomy.   I think the HAL cruiser will find this class a bit larger than the other class of ships but I have come to accept this class of ship.  I just wish cruising would start up. 

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I sailed on the Koningsdam and found the MDR crowded and since it was a tropical cruise I found the outdoor decks persistently crowded.  The other inside venues including the Lido seemed adequate for demand.  

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The only place I found it a bit crowded was around the lido pool on a sunny, hot sea day. To be expected, I think. 

 

And I found the public areas in the Music Walk to be very roomy. The music was great and people were really enjoying it, but there were a lot of acts performing in the NW various locations. Never had a problem finding chairs all evening. I really loved how the entertainment was spaced in the MW which is one reason we are sailing Rotterdam VII next followed by Konigsdam.

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We have found that the walkway on the Nieuw Statendam to get from venue to venue is wider than on some of the other ships.  We've been on the NS 4 times and only felt crowded in the casino when the show got out and everyone was walking thru that area.  Otherwise, no real issues.

Helen

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Only place we found really crowded on a Pinnacle class ship was the passageway between MDR and  Club Orange on first Gala Night as the MDR staff seemed unable to handle the crowds and a lot of people where waiting for tables with bleeper in hand.

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No, I thought the Nieuw Statendam to be well designed for traffic flow.  The deck above the mid-ship's pool going from the forward foyer to the middle of the ship has some restrictions for traffic flow due to the placement of furniture in relation to structural elements.  That could be "fixed" if anyone cared to do so without any cost.  Get rid of some of the furniture!  

 

Even when the Music Walk area was busy, I did not have the feeling of congestion.  

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My only space concern is the outside promenade deck for walking.  I've heard it is much more narrow than other ships.

 

One of our cruise standards each morning is a brisk walk on deck, usually at least 10-12 laps.  I'm hoping this will still be as enjoyable when we sail NS in March.

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1 hour ago, msmayor said:

My only space concern is the outside promenade deck for walking.  I've heard it is much more narrow than other ships.

 

One of our cruise standards each morning is a brisk walk on deck, usually at least 10-12 laps.  I'm hoping this will still be as enjoyable when we sail NS in March.

 

The promenade deck is more narrow than other HAL ships and is really narrow as you approach each end.  It is too narrow to hold the required passenger safety drill.

 

https://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/gallery/ms-nieuw-statendam/IMG_3177.jpg

 

https://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/gallery/ms-nieuw-statendam/IMG_3171.jpg

 

https://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/gallery/ms-nieuw-statendam/IMG_3180.jpg

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Wow @Crew News, that is narrow.

 

Well, we won't give up our walks, but I have to imagine they won't be nearly as brisk as past trips.

 

How does that deck size work out for On Deck for a Cause?  

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4 hours ago, msmayor said:

Wow @Crew News, that is narrow.

 

Well, we won't give up our walks, but I have to imagine they won't be nearly as brisk as past trips.

 

How does that deck size work out for On Deck for a Cause?  

It kinda squeezes folks to single file while entering the ends of the ship but it does not diminish the participation. 

 

The narrow portions should prompt HAL to put a "walk this way" sign on the Promenade deck to eliminate confrontations at these choke points.

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1 hour ago, Crew News said:

It kinda squeezes folks to single file while entering the ends of the ship but it does not diminish the participation. 

 

The narrow portions should prompt HAL to put a "walk this way" sign on the Promenade deck to eliminate confrontations at these choke points.

I thought I saw those one way signs on the K when we were on her.

We did the muster station drill seated in the casino (I guess they figured we could easily find that) and it was so much nicer deal.

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While we absolutely loved our cruise aboard the NS, it was the only cruise we’ve ever taken where if you didn’t arrive 30 minutes prior to the evening show, you might not get a seat! It was standing room only (for BOTH shows, from what was said). While the World Stage is a wonderful theater, and we thoroughly enjoyed its set up, it didn’t seem large enough for the ship’s capacity. #firstworldproblems 

We had a fabulous time and would gladly sail on her again! 

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19 minutes ago, DaveOKC said:

I thought I saw those one way signs on the K when we were on her.

We did the muster station drill seated in the casino (I guess they figured we could easily find that) and it was so much nicer deal.

Since the direction of walking has been a topic of discussion on CC for some time, I go out of my way to look for such signs whenever I am aboard.  The below Promenade Deck sign on the Nieuw Statendam implies both direction walking is acceptable:

 

https://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/gallery/ms-nieuw-statendam/IMG_3175.jpg

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23 minutes ago, DaveOKC said:

I thought I saw those one way signs on the K when we were on her.

We did the muster station drill seated in the casino (I guess they figured we could easily find that) and it was so much nicer deal.

Amen.  Not having to stand facing the setting sun for a passenger safety drill was quite a nice change on the Pinnacle-class ships.  Everything needed to know about passenger safety was presented with me seated and in a manner that ensured my back was viable for witnessing the sail-away from my balcony.

 

FWIW In all of my cruise drills, not a single one pointed out that we were standing under our lifeboat. 

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Many, if not all, will blame the current SOLAS requirements for lifeboat placement on the new ships.  A "benefit" is one's Mustering Station is at an interior venue.  I was one of how many hundreds whose mustering station on the Nieuw Statendam was the World Stage.  Such a "comforting" experience it must have been for a new cruiser.  So impersonal, proper information was supplied, were sufficient crew members in their Yellow caps, etc. present to truly handle a crowd of such a size in a REAL evacuation emergency?

 

God forbid that we will ever learn if this current design "really" works as the "Officials" at many levels of regulatory agencies as well as the USCG expect.   

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We spent 3 weeks on the Niew Statendam two years ago.  We really like the ship but felt the Lido was undersized for the ship.  On port days when people were scurrying to have breakfast and disembark for a tour, it was very difficult to find seating.  The master dining room was fine and we had no difficulty with timing or meals.  The ship itself is beautiful and, of course, the crew is awesome.

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we were on the "K" winter, 2019--late seating in MDR, perhaps, the best service we have ever enjoyed. On at least two evenings, people were turned away from early show in Showroom, full early. No problem at late show.

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