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265 cabins now available on the 8/14 cruise. A few more than yesterday. Is Crystal staying at 50%? That would mean only around 225 cabins sold that’s leaving in two weeks. 

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9 hours ago, MsCrystalina said:

I just finished one week on the Bahamas cruise.  It was a great cruise and I felt comfortable with the Covid precautions in place.   I got off at Bimini for a short self tour, was not impressed and then  only went to Exuma beach with a chair and umbrella which was clean and a beautiful pristine beach. I saw the Bahamians thoroughly cleaning the lounge chairs as people left. Masks were required on the tender and the shuttle.     I am most disappointed to hear that unvaccinated passengers are now going to be allowed to embark in Miami.  As a physician I see this as a reckless action by Crystal.   The Delta variant is raging and will kill thousands more in the coming months.   Even vaccinated individuals can be affected although not seriously at this point in time.  I am so glad I was able to enjoy the Crystal experience which required vaccination plus negative testing on day of arrival in Nassau and then testing on day prior to discharge.     The on board cleaning is going to have to be even more intense once non-vaccinated are allowed on.     Having flown there on full planes and less full going home all should be concerned about this and now add a ship a closed environment with  unvaccinateds. 

There is no way I would board A SHIP that welcomes the unvaccinated.    I urge all who have reservations to cancel them.    

I was sent a cartoon which most of you will find offensive-    chose a card for COVID  vaccination or 

a  toe tag if you are unvaccinated.   The choice is yours.

I agree 100%.  The beauty of my 2 weeks on Serenity was that I felt totally safe -- as if I were in a bubble - - and that life was back to "normal."  If I were to sail with unvaccinated passengers (and I probably would not) I would be wearing a mask on the ship.  It would not be the same cruise and it would not be nearly as enjoyable.    I hope the Crystal does not allow unvaccinated passengers on other cruises.

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9 hours ago, BEAV said:

 

I’m not either. But curiosity was killing the cat....

 

And I’ll speculate that the special dining area set aside for unvaxed folks in Waterside is going to be one mighty lonely, quiet place. 

It will be an empty place! Even the MORON'S that are part of the Anti-Vax Group aren't going to allow themselves to be pointed at and avoided like the plague for a week. I'M ONLY TALKING TO GREEN BRACELET PEOPLE ON THE CRUISE!!!!  🤣🤣🤣

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6 minutes ago, majcigar said:

It will be an empty place! Even the MORON'S that are part of the Anti-Vax Group aren't going to allow themselves to be pointed at and avoided like the plague for a week. I'M ONLY TALKING TO GREEN BRACELET PEOPLE ON THE CRUISE!!!!  🤣🤣🤣

Green is good. Red is bad. We are going, so it will be interesting to see if the bracelet system is enforced. 

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...Or the men (at least) can just wear a button-down shirt in the evenings.  Is Crystal really going to position staff at the door of each venue to have men pull up their sleeves and show which band they're wearing for admittance into each of the restricted bars, or are the staff just going to scan the crowd for the red bracelets they can see?

 

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Just now, BWIVince said:

...Or the men (at least) can just wear a button-down shirt in the evenings.  Is Crystal really going to position staff at the door of each venue to have men pull up their sleeves and show which band they're wearing for admittance into each of the restricted bars, or are the staff just going to scan the crowd for the red bracelets they can see?

 

Vince

You can take it to the bank that they are going to check for bracelet color!!!

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8 minutes ago, majcigar said:

You can take it to the bank that they are going to check for bracelet color!!!

I have to agree. I have an interesting story. We were on the Celebrity Edge 2 weeks ago. Around 1500 passengers, 9 unvaccinated adults. Similar protocols to what Crystal is proposing were in place. Every night Celebrity had a high level crew member at the show whose specific job was to look for any of those 9 passengers. If they showed up, they would be escorted to a "designated" area of the theater far from any other passenger. Celebrity took the safety protocols very seriously.

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9 hours ago, MsCrystalina said:

I just finished one week on the Bahamas cruise.  It was a great cruise and I felt comfortable with the Covid precautions in place.   I got off at Bimini for a short self tour, was not impressed and then  only went to Exuma beach with a chair and umbrella which was clean and a beautiful pristine beach. I saw the Bahamians thoroughly cleaning the lounge chairs as people left. Masks were required on the tender and the shuttle.     I am most disappointed to hear that unvaccinated passengers are now going to be allowed to embark in Miami.  As a physician I see this as a reckless action by Crystal.   The Delta variant is raging and will kill thousands more in the coming months.   Even vaccinated individuals can be affected although not seriously at this point in time.  I am so glad I was able to enjoy the Crystal experience which required vaccination plus negative testing on day of arrival in Nassau and then testing on day prior to discharge.     The on board cleaning is going to have to be even more intense once non-vaccinated are allowed on.     Having flown there on full planes and less full going home all should be concerned about this and now add a ship a closed environment with  unvaccinateds. 

There is no way I would board A SHIP that welcomes the unvaccinated.    I urge all who have reservations to cancel them.    

I was sent a cartoon which most of you will find offensive-    chose a card for COVID  vaccination or 

a  toe tag if you are unvaccinated.   The choice is yours.

So what you are recommending is that I not go to any restaurant or any indoor store or any indoor space because there most likely will be more unvaccinated than will be on the Crystal Serenity. How long do you recommend I quarantine at home?

 

I believe I will be much safer on Crystals enclosed environment than my local grocery store. I also agree with several posters that the likely hood of any unvaccinated willing to put up with the many restrictions will be very low and less than the 5% Crystal would allow.  IMHO.

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It will only work if Crystal enforces the "segregation" of unvaccinated passengers.

Unfortunately, we have seen too many "rules" unenforced because crew is reluctant to offend paying guests.  I would not "take anything to the bank."

 

I agree that the protocols are so restrictive that there is really no point paying Crystal fares for a non Crystal-like experience.  Will be interesting to hear from anyone on the first cruise with unvaccinated passengers.

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5 minutes ago, Jimmycruiser said:

So what you are recommending is that I not go to any restaurant or any indoor store or any indoor space because there most likely will be more unvaccinated than will be on the Crystal Serenity. How long do you recommend I quarantine at home?

 

I believe I will be much safer on Crystals enclosed environment than my local grocery store. I also agree with several posters that the likely hood of any unvaccinated willing to put up with the many restrictions will be very low and less than the 5% Crystal would allow.  IMHO.

 

I would definitely recommend that you don't visit restaurants, indoor spaces, or indoor store in a red hot COVID zone.  The recklessness part is adding Miami as a stop at the height of the current outbreak.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, pnsnkr said:

 

I would definitely recommend that you don't visit restaurants, indoor spaces, or indoor store in a red hot COVID zone.  The recklessness part is adding Miami as a stop at the height of the current outbreak.

 

 

I get what you are saying about Miami.  However, as bad as Miami is, flying into Bahamas is worse.  No doubt Florida is not a poster child for Covid, still if you ask me to choose, I say Miami over Nassau.  

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37 minutes ago, majcigar said:

You can take it to the bank that they are going to check for bracelet color!!!

 

I have no doubt they're going to try to enforce it, but to say I have ZERO confidence that they are going to be that invasive about it is probably over-estimating it ten-fold.  😞 I love Crystal overall, but their follow-through when it comes to aggressive enforcement leaves a lot to be desired sometimes. 

 

Time will tell though...  That's just a concern based on past experience.

 

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15 minutes ago, bitob said:

It will only work if Crystal enforces the "segregation" of unvaccinated passengers.

Unfortunately, we have seen too many "rules" unenforced because crew is reluctant to offend paying guests.  I would not "take anything to the bank."

 

I agree that the protocols are so restrictive that there is really no point paying Crystal fares for a non Crystal-like experience.  Will be interesting to hear from anyone on the first cruise with unvaccinated passengers.

Now you make a very valid point.  In general, cruise brands like to make policies and rules but not enforce them.  Hygiene at a buffet is a perfect example. However, several brands have taken offending guests off the ship like MSC and gotten positive news coverage.  It only has to happen once for the clear message to me made.  Human nature, test the rules.  Crystal does not have to be the first or worry about the consequences, it has already been done in the industry.  Makes it easier for them.

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2 hours ago, wesport said:

265 cabins now available on the 8/14 cruise. A few more than yesterday. Is Crystal staying at 50%? That would mean only around 225 cabins sold that’s leaving in two weeks. 

How did you find out how many cabins are available.  I am on that sailing & was trying to find that information. 

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1 minute ago, CruiseAngel218 said:

How did you find out how many cabins are available.  I am on that sailing & was trying to find that information. 

 

My TA website. Not sure how accurate, but gives you an idea. 

 

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10 minutes ago, BWIVince said:

 

I have no doubt they're going to try to enforce it, but to say I have ZERO confidence that they are going to be that invasive about it is probably over-estimating it ten-fold.  😞 I love Crystal overall, but their follow-through when it comes to aggressive enforcement leaves a lot to be desired sometimes. 

 

Time will tell though...  That's just a concern based on past experience.

 

Vince

That was the exactly the point of my post

They will try to enforce when it is "obvious."

They will not be invasive.

No way

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Just now, wesport said:

 

My TA website. Not sure how accurate, but gives you an idea. 

 

 

The caveat I would add to that is that the information gets more accurate as you get closer you get to departure.  Not all bookings have cabin assignments in advance, but when sailings are as lightly booked as these, they do tend to get assigned earlier instead of later unless there is a real anomaly in how full certain categories are, and they need to juggle people.

 

Vince

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12 minutes ago, Sthrngary said:

Now you make a very valid point.  In general, cruise brands like to make policies and rules but not enforce them.  Hygiene at a buffet is a perfect example. However, several brands have taken offending guests off the ship like MSC and gotten positive news coverage.  It only has to happen once for the clear message to me made.  Human nature, test the rules.  Crystal does not have to be the first or worry about the consequences, it has already been done in the industry.  Makes it easier for them.

The Celebrity Edge just had 2 COVID cases yesterday! See You Tube (Don's Family Vacations) to see how perfectly they handled the situation and removed the people from the ship and completed Contact Tracing!

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4 minutes ago, bitob said:

That was the exactly the point of my post

They will try to enforce when it is "obvious."

They will not be invasive.

No way

Completely Disagree! Now that Miami is in play with possibly Unvaccinated guests they will be invasive and protect their product!

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1 hour ago, BWIVince said:

...Or the men (at least) can just wear a button-down shirt in the evenings.  Is Crystal really going to position staff at the door of each venue to have men pull up their sleeves and show which band they're wearing for admittance into each of the restricted bars, or are the staff just going to scan the crowd for the red bracelets they can see?

 

Vince

Yes they will -- because you had do same as they were checking temperatures on the wrist.  Only issue might be bars but specialties, churo and waterside all had Crystal police.   I think Avenue had same.

 

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19 minutes ago, Sthrngary said:

I get what you are saying about Miami.  However, as bad as Miami is, flying into Bahamas is worse.  No doubt Florida is not a poster child for Covid, still if you ask me to choose, I say Miami over Nassau.  

Flying in and out of Bahamas, though the airport was crowded is much better than Miami.  One has to upload to the Bahamas Visa site a proof of vaccination or proof of covid and recovery.  Nobody knows who you are sitting next to on a flight to Miami.  Returning from Nassau every single passenger had a Negative rapid test the day before.  This of course is not applicable on a Miami return flight.   At least I know the status of people on my plane flying to/from the Bahamas.

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1 minute ago, PaulMCO said:

Yes they will -- because you had do same as they were checking temperatures on the wrist.

 

At BARS?  (my example). I have no doubt this would get caught at dining venues, but I'm having a hard time picturing them staffing the doors of the other lounges besides the Galaxy the same way they do the dining venues.  If they're doing the temp checks at entry to each bar then I AM impressed, and feel better.

 

Vince

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13 minutes ago, cruisr said:

Flying in and out of Bahamas, though the airport was crowded is much better than Miami.  One has to upload to the Bahamas Visa site a proof of vaccination or proof of covid and recovery.  Nobody knows who you are sitting next to on a flight to Miami.  Returning from Nassau every single passenger had a Negative rapid test the day before.  This of course is not applicable on a Miami return flight.   At least I know the status of people on my plane flying to/from the Bahamas.

I was thinking the same thing as I was purchasing my return test voucher on the Bahamas health visa site yesterday.

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My fantasy is that the Captain comes aboard the PA as Serenity pulls away from the dock in Miami and announces they are sailing with *no* unvaxed passengers. Imagine the collective sigh of relief heard all over the ship.....

 

A guy can dream, can’t he!? 😊

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