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On 7/31/2021 at 9:09 AM, Sthrngary said:

Batting average, 0 for 5.  You might think that is horrible.  No, not at all.  Where it used to take me weeks to do all the details on an upcoming cruise vacation, now it takes me an hour or two.  I also have learned to quickly and accurately cancel every aspect of a cruise including doing the travel insurance claim in three hours or less.  "I got that going for me!!!"

 

Back on topic, we are now on the Miami Departure leaving August 23.  I hope the posts are right about to soon for the average person to book for the first couple of cruises.  We booked the JW Marriott Marquis the night prior to the cruise. American Express has a benefit if you book a Marriott property by end of business today, FYI. Miami is very easy to do transportation from Airport to hotel.

 

Because everyone has put up with me on this board, I will create a new post just before we leave focused on our experiences pre/during the cruise from a first time Crystal Cruisers stand point. Thank you everyone for your feedback and opinions.

I will see you in the Ave.love Joel. I also will be at Dennis bar too.

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Although their conduct is legal, Crystal needs to protect their stellar reputation.  Crystal is a small corporation facing a serious cash flow dilemma.  They have less bargaining power than their larger competitors.  A downturn in their reputation has occurred due to poorly managed refund issues and hasty changes in itineraries and protocols, which are disturbing customers with existing prepaid bookings.  Travel agents and customers are beginning to realize that their prepaid bookings are "crapshoots".

 

The good news to date is that passengers are impressed by the current level of amenities, activities, and congeniality on Serenity and Endeavor cruises.  Shipboard operations appear to remain superbly managed.

 

 

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We sail on 8/7. We are not planning on leaving the ship in Miami but I’m sure my husband will go down to the terminal to check things out. 
I will ask him to report on how crowded it is and how many red bracelets he sees. 

We both plan to be tested tomorrow before we leave on Wednesday for the Bahamas. After that, we’ll be careful and hope for the best. 

Very difficult times for a control freak like myself. 
Lorraine

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5 minutes ago, kptbylorraine said:

We sail on 8/7. We are not planning on leaving the ship in Miami but I’m sure my husband will go down to the terminal to check things out. 
I will ask him to report on how crowded it is and how many red bracelets he sees. 

We both plan to be tested tomorrow before we leave on Wednesday for the Bahamas. After that, we’ll be careful and hope for the best. 

Very difficult times for a control freak like myself. 
Lorraine

Lorraine, join the Control Freak Club.  I love you are getting tested before you leave just to make sure things are good.  We will be doing the same thing and we are going out of Miami now, not Nassau.  We are double masking, with M95 and fabric masks.  I am wearing sunglasses on the Delta Flight, in the Atlanta Airport and into the hotel.  I personally have had enough cruise cancellations for my lifetime and will go into virtual isolation until I leave.  Worth it for me.

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31 minutes ago, kptbylorraine said:

We sail on 8/7. We are not planning on leaving the ship in Miami but I’m sure my husband will go down to the terminal to check things out. 
I will ask him to report on how crowded it is and how many red bracelets he sees. 

We both plan to be tested tomorrow before we leave on Wednesday for the Bahamas. After that, we’ll be careful and hope for the best. 

Very difficult times for a control freak like myself. 
Lorraine

We're literally in the same boat....or on the same boat! We're doing the 8/7 cruise as well. We will not get off the ship in Miami either, but like you, will be curious as to the number of red bracelets. In my "Pollyanna" world, I like to think that since this itinerary change was so sudden and we're the first out of the blocks, maybe there will be few takers that aren't vaccinated. Sure hope so! but will manage to have fun no matter what!

Linda and John

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We also changed our embarkation from Nassau to Miami and now cruise 9/27 instead of 9/25. What tipped the scales for us was the 14 day quarantine potential in Nassau increased in our view (although slightly). What I've not seen thus far and perhaps I just missed this, but what is the precruise test requirement for a vaccinated passenger in Miami. Is it similar to Nassau?

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21 hours ago, JFontaine said:

Interesting two threads on the Royal Caribbean board concerning what happened when a wife, and the next day her husband (but not others in their party),  tested positive on end of cruise  tests into Nassau.  In summary,   extremely well planned on board procedures carried out with precision,  limo rides to the airport (they were separated because wife was evacuated before husband tested positive), private planes to home airport (not Florida where their car was parked), SUV to home.  She said the cruise line deal with Nassau was that passengers would immediately be removed from the island, and that CDC required the passenger be taken directly to their home. All of this was coordinated and paid for by Royal Caribbean (except retrieval of their car).  These passengers have minimal symptoms (congestion); i have not found any evacuation insurance that would have covered this situation.  

Keep in mind if this happens on Crystal they will not usher you home, just FYI

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8 minutes ago, tinaincc said:

Keep in mind if this happens on Crystal they will not usher you home, just FYI

If I recall correctly, your friends hadn't boarded the ship yet. Is that correct?  Maybe that means as far as Nassau was concerned,  they weren't Crystal's problem/responsibility? And if they hadn't boarded yet, the CDC's cruise rules likely didn't apply. 

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Didn't Royal Caribbean boot the passengers on Florida cruises off of that inclusive Covid assistance coverage?  I think it's only a matter of time before everyone is going to need personal insurance for that coverage -- I don't think lines are going to be able to get blanket coverage (even as focused and limited as it was) much longer at the price point they initially did for the shakedowns.

 

Vince

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Good luck finding evacuation coverage for testing positive (but not being very sick) and the CDC requires that you are taken to your home. I can't find that coverage.  Royal either covered this for customer relations or because Nassau and the CDC required it, or because they knew that this coverage is not commercially available (or if available,  at rates that make sense for their passengers).  

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16 minutes ago, JFontaine said:

Good luck finding evacuation coverage for testing positive (but not being very sick) and the CDC requires that you are taken to your home. I can't find that coverage.  Royal either covered this for customer relations or because Nassau and the CDC required it, or because they knew that this coverage is not commercially available (or if available,  at rates that make sense for their passengers).  

 

Yeah, you're supposed to quarantine in place where you are in most cases -- not get flown around privately for non-life threatening situations.  

 

I think they were doing it for PR purposes, and may still continue in a few cases, but clearly got offloaded quickly in the case of Florida.

 

Vince

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1 hour ago, JFontaine said:

If I recall correctly, your friends hadn't boarded the ship yet. Is that correct?  Maybe that means as far as Nassau was concerned,  they weren't Crystal's problem/responsibility? And if they hadn't boarded yet, the CDC's cruise rules likely didn't apply. 

You are correct, my friend was boarding  when she tested positive. However, the couple that tested positive on our ship also was on their own once we arrived in Nassau - they were moved to the Courtyard as well.

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We just booked for MIA also.  We will take precautions before we go. We were sold on the no test getting back into the USA which makes things less stressful 

 

Do we still need a Bahamas Visa ?

 

We do now see on our booking because vaccine card is not confirmed some tours are restricted we guessing that is why. 

We will have fun and be safe along the way. 

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2 minutes ago, tinaincc said:

You are correct, my friend was boarding  when she tested positive. However, the couple that tested positive on our ship also was on their own once we arrived in Nassau - they were moved to the Courtyard as well.

Thanks for the information.  

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2 minutes ago, Jdfireman said:

We just booked for MIA also.  We will take precautions before we go. We were sold on the no test getting back into the USA which makes things less stressful 

 

Do we still need a Bahamas Visa ?

 

We do now see on our booking because vaccine card is not confirmed some tours are restricted we guessing that is why. 

We will have fun and be safe along the way. 

Congratulations- I’m so jealous!

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14 minutes ago, Jdfireman said:

We just booked for MIA also.  We will take precautions before we go. We were sold on the no test getting back into the USA which makes things less stressful 

 

Do we still need a Bahamas Visa ?

 

We do now see on our booking because vaccine card is not confirmed some tours are restricted we guessing that is why. 

We will have fun and be safe along the way. 

Justin what week did you and Victoria book for?

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1 minute ago, cruisebug722 said:

Justin what week did you and Victoria book for?

Hello hope all is well.. We are going on the 23rd of August . We did have a little delay booking the (Casino Comp Cruise)  We know nothing is free . We had to just pay the tax .  Did you book 

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9 minutes ago, Jdfireman said:

Hello hope all is well.. We are going on the 23rd of August . We did have a little delay booking the (Casino Comp Cruise)  We know nothing is free . We had to just pay the tax .  Did you book 

Prior to the July 17th cruise - I was already booked for Sept 18th but changed it to Sept 20 to board in Miami.  Sorry to miss you, had fun chatting with Victoria thought maybe to see you again.  Well who knows!  Good luck in the casino on your next voyage! Beth and Pam

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27 minutes ago, Jdfireman said:

Hello hope all is well.. We are going on the 23rd of August . We did have a little delay booking the (Casino Comp Cruise)  We know nothing is free . We had to just pay the tax .  Did you book 

Yes, you still need to get The Bahamas Visa.  We had to re-book our shore excursions after we made the change to Miami.  We are still having trouble booking dining.  Keep getting an error message.

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1 hour ago, BWIVince said:

 

Yeah, you're supposed to quarantine in place where you are in most cases -- not get flown around privately for non-life threatening situations.  

 

I think they were doing it for PR purposes, and may still continue in a few cases, but clearly got offloaded quickly in the case of Florida.

 

Vince

I think this is a poor precedent that they set.

it is NOT on the cruise line to privately fly you home at their expense if you test positive, simply because you don't want to quarantine in Nassau. Not sure what happens if you test positive at the pier in Miami--perhaps nothing.

We accepted that if we tested positive we would be quarantined for 14 days. That was part of the risk.

We have evacuation coverage but would not expect it to cover COVID unless we were seriously ill and needed hospitalization.

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7 minutes ago, broker1217 said:

I think this is a poor precedent that they set.

it is NOT on the cruise line to privately fly you home at their expense if you test positive, simply because you don't want to quarantine in Nassau. Not sure what happens if you test positive at the pier in Miami--perhaps nothing.

We accepted that if we tested positive we would be quarantined for 14 days. That was part of the risk.

We have evacuation coverage but would not expect it to cover COVID unless we were seriously ill and needed hospitalization.

You may change your mind if you were quarantined in the Courtyard Nassau. It was a room without the ability to get fresh air. My friend said she was going nuts in that small room after just 24 hours. Since she was not on RCCL she paid out of pocket the $11k to get to FLL.

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Just now, tinaincc said:

You may change your mind if you were quarantined in the Courtyard Nassau. It was a room without the ability to get fresh air. My friend said she was going nuts in that small room after just 24 hours. Since she was not on RCCL she paid out of pocket the $11k to get to FLL.

 Did your friend have travel insurance with med evac?

 

Nancy

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59 minutes ago, tinaincc said:

You may change your mind if you were quarantined in the Courtyard Nassau. It was a room without the ability to get fresh air. My friend said she was going nuts in that small room after just 24 hours. Since she was not on RCCL she paid out of pocket the $11k to get to FLL.

With all due respect---that was her choice and her insurance.

We have insured ourselves and understand the rules, and the risks.

And frankly, if I am COVID positive I would accept that I need to quarantine.

This is a global pandemic folks--don't spread it.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, broker1217 said:

With all due respect---that was her choice and her insurance.

We have insured ourselves and understand the rules, and the risks.

And frankly, if I am COVID positive I would accept that I need to quarantine.

This is a global pandemic folks--don't spread it.

 

 

It was not her insurance. It was the Bahama process associated to the Visa. Her paying out of pocket to be medically evacuated is how she chose to start her quarantine. 

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