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My daughter has thick, long hair. It is almost to the top of her teeny little behind. She is also Asian and has coarse hair. I would love to hear from you all on advice on what type of braids to get.

I know I DO NOT want a full head done. Goodness, we would be there for 5 hrs. I just what some on the side or something. But, I can't even envision what this looks like. Someone mentioned a 'head band' type of braiding. What is this like?

Thanks so much for your help on my convoluded question!

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you can get the bangs done in corn row types of braids. It keeps all the hair off her face too for the rest of the cruise.

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I would be very careful. I didn't think we would ever get my daughter's undone when she was 19. She lost a lot of hair. She said she would never do it again.

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My daughter always gets 'half a head' braided. They do it from the front to where a headband would rest. They put beads there so it does look like a headband. Looks real cute and still leaves the back hair free and hanging. The key to getting it out with out losing a lot of hair is to take it out before it is 2 weeks old. When you do cut the rubber bands and lightly take it off. Then put cream rinse on your hear and wash in the shower.

I will warn you that it hurts while they are applying the braids. My 9 year old daughter was fighting back tears half the time. Don't forget to put a lot of sunscreen on the head!It does look so cute when it is done though!

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I don't have any advice; however, I have always wondered--what is the draw to this hair 'style' and I use the word style very loosely.

From the previous posts I also ask why would anyone willingly and knowingly subject their child to pain, tears, and hair loss? I’m just curious, and not passing judgment upon past and/or future responders.

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I would think a lot of people see the "style" as an inland thing and not seeing the long term of the "style" (like taking them out)

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Rather than put your kid through pain, damaging her long hair, and wasting your time in port, I would suggest that if you know how to french braid, french braid her hair in the mornings - There are lots of books out there that show you how to do braids yourself. It looks much classier than those all over the head braids, you won't waste your time, you won't subject her to lice, and they won't harass you into getting her whole head done. Thank Goodness my Mom french braided my hair when I was younger - it never is out of style. I would be so mad if the family photo album had pictures of me looking like an idiot with crazy braids all over my head on our cruise. [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

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I finally had this done on my last cruise, and although it did look kind of cute, I don't think I'd do it again. I got sunburned on my scalp even using sunblock and the greasy stuff they put in your hair when they're braiding it is really nasty feeling and hard to wash out. Also it's really expensive even if you're only getting the "headband" braids because they'll do as many tiny little braids as they can get away with so you'll have to pay more because they charge you per braid. I think I'll stick to french braiding my hair on the next cruise, I agree with Littlegoo75; it's free, not painful, and does look classier. And please understand I'm not judging those who do like that style of braiding, just voicing my preference. [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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Is the braiding painful? We were planning to get my ten year old's done, but not if it really hurts. Also, I bought a rat tail comb the other day thinking I could at least make sure the comb is clean. Would it offend them if I offered hand sanitizer? [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] We may rethink this yet.

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Bring 2 combs. I watched as 2 girls worked on 1 head.

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Just tell them that your kid's skin is very sensitive and if they would please use it - if they get offended, go to somebody else. They have probably been touching other people's heads all day - don't ever be too careful with your kid - if they were to get lice, you would probably end up with it, and who knows from there.
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Is there a side version where you can get 2 or 3 rows on one side?

Sorry to ask such silly questions but I am braid-ignorant. I wouldn't mind getting one or two rows on the side of my head.

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I'm braid ignorant too, but you do learn alot from these boards. It sounds like the braiders charge per braid, so they might not make it easy for you to just get a couple - before you know it, you might have your whole head done and owe them $80. Maybe negotiate a price with them beforehand?

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I am really getting excited now. I even got my hair done today. No braids though, just cut and highlighted for our cruise.

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If you decide to go for it, here's a suggestion. Use a chapstick with a high SPF between the braids to avoid the sunburn. Just run it up and down between the braids. This is much easier and less messy than trying to apply greasy sunblock with you fingers.

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I'd have it done in the ship salon.

I've heard many stories about girls getting lice from the islanders. It's very common among the residents of the islands and they certainly do not sanitize the combs like we do in the US.

If you wouldn't let your child wear another child's hat (someone you didn't know), then you shouldn't be having their hair braided by a stranger.

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braids can be STYLISHLY and SAFELY done in a SANITARY manner. i might consult a local stlyist familiar with your child's hair type. s/he can recommend and perhaps do an appropriate style prior to your cruise and give tips on maintenance, washing, removal. sounds like she has beautiful hair, and with the length and coarseness, braids may give u a break also. the cream rinse tip given above works wonderfully. i'll have to try the chapstick sunscreen tip. yes, in the islands sometimes one may play roulette, some places are regulated but exercise proper care & judgement and the suggestion to ESTABLISH A PRICE BEFOREHAND is righton. and dont let them pressure u. one trip to jamaica i was constantly fending off women & girls chanting "lady let me braid your hair." that was years ago, now they dont bother me. it's vacation - enjoy - and having a fun and easily maintained hairstyle can be a part of it. as a black woman i almost always have my hair professionally braided prior to cruising. let your braider know if it's too tight, pain is not the goal here.

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I haven't been to Jamaica yet, but I would hate to have to fend people off like that. Sinead O'Conner sure would have it easy if she went there!

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I am an African American woman that wears braids or twists all the time. I braid my own hair and I get a lot of compliments, however, I am not a professional. I read these message boards often (I rarely post responses) and whenever the subject of hair braiding by islanders is discussed, the issue of head lice seems to be a concern for some. If this is an issue, what is so exciting about having one's hair braided while visiting the islands? I just don't understand it. It makes no sense to me at all.

born2crooz wrote: "It's very common among the residents of the islands"

Really? Guess what? It is common in the United States, too. If one were to get head lice while having their hair braided by an islander, it would be because the customers have head lice and the same comb was used on each customer. Do people believe that island braiders would continue to braid hair even when they see head lice a customer's hair? Are people really willing to take the risk? Yuck.

Head lice can be spread whenever there is direct contact of the head or hair with an infested individual. People get head lice from head-to-head contact with someone that is infested, or by sharing, combs, brushes, towels, hats, etc., with someone who is infested. Head lice can also be transmitted via bed pillows and mats (like the ones used in preschools) Head lice don't jump or fly.

born2crooz wrote: "I've heard many stories about girls getting lice from the islanders"

Really? So, am I to believe that head lice is very common among residents of the islands and many girls have gotten lice from the islanders? Hmmmmm.. Perhaps head lice is common among cruise ship passengers and other visitors to the islands who insist on having their hair braided by the islanders.

I am not a Pediculosis expert nor do I want to be (and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express Last Night). A child in my niece's second grade class had head lice and the county health department gave parents information on how head lice is transmitted from person to person.

There is absolutely nothing appealing about paying someone to braid my hair, having to bring my own comb and hair accessories and then cross my fingers, hoping that the previous customers didn't have head lice.

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I agree with you. I don't understand it either. If I had a kid, I would learn to do the braids on them myself if I wanted them to have the braids. I don't understand the appeal of spending half of your time on shore getting braided, when there are so many other things to do. That's just me. I prefer to get my hair done at a reputable salon, where if you happened to get lice, ( unlikely) you would be able to do something about it.

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Island Delight.

I didn't mean to offend anyone and if I did, I apologize. I think the fact that I've heard of many cases of girls getting lice may very well be for the reason you stated.

If someone is braiding, say 30 heads a day on the beach, they certainly can't be expected to sanitize the comb after each customer. All it takes is one customer to have head lice and voila, it will be spread to all people using that comb afterwards.

I think it all depends on the island as well. There are some islands that are poor and have unsanitary living conditions. That is a fact.

It's really a crap shoot. Would you allow your child to wear another child's hat or pass it around? I'd say, the majority of parents would say "NO WAY". Then why would you have your child's hair braided with a frequently used comb??

Just my observation. Don't shoot the messenger. I've spoken to several parents of girls who have contracted head lice while on a cruise/vacation.

Could certainly happen in Florida as well!!

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I know the braids are appealing to lots of folks- and I have seen men with braids and beads. I think they can braid your eyebrows! But, seriously, I have had the braids before myself. If you DO get them, be sure to take caution when undo-ing the braids. Put lots of conditioner on the hair BEFORE you take them out. Go real SLOWWWWW and be careful while you do it. Your hair will fall out if you arent careful!

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EVEN if the conditions were 100% sanitary,
EVEN if it didn't pull so hard that your child
will wind up with a nasty headache,
EVEN if your child begs to have this done until
she cries....

is it worth having her beautiful hair fall out and have so much breakage that it takes months, maybe years to grow out the torn hair??

I think NOT.

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I think these posts contain valuable information for those who are considering hairbraiding for themselves or their daughters. There are those who have been pleased with their results and there are people that have horror stories. Thanks Nikki796 (I like your post). Until my niece came home with the letter from her school, I never even thought about head lice, so I had to get educated. There is just too much information out there, but I had to know. She never got them even though others in her classroom did.

As I stated earlier, I braid my own hair. I have been doing so for about 8 years now. I can style my hair in box braids, cornrows, double and single strand twists, french braid, Bantu Knots, flat twists; so I know a little about hairbraiding even though it is not my profession. On the "Scary Braids" thread one poster accurately said that the success of the braided hair style is more a matter of hair texture than a matter of race and I agree. Some people's hair texture will not result in nice looking braids. If you are considering getting braids for yourself or your daughter for the first time you should consider:

Braiding natural hair should not be painful at all. Many years ago I used to get braided extensions and it was painful because the braider had to use a lot of effort to incorporate the extension into my natural hair. This eventually caused hair breakage for me, especially around the front hair line. I don't get extensions anymore and I've never experienced breakage since then. Sometimes people ask how I braid my hair so tightly, when actually it not tight at all. The strands of hair are often closely braided, but never tight (there is a difference). Braids can be closely or loosely formed.

Simple, three-strand braids should not cause pain when braided. Perhaps the pain and discomfort some have described is a result of a cornrow type of braid. If a braider has to pull, tug or yank on the hair to force it into a conrow, you may notice some breakage (minor for some, severe for others) and you could end up with a nasty headache; or if the strands of hair seem to get tangled when the braider tries to form the cornrow and the braider yanks on the hair to detangle it, you'll probably have some difficulty removing (or detangling) the cornrows later.

Sometimes they slather the hair with some type of gel or creme when braiding to control the hair. Depending on the hair type and the amount of gel or creme used, your hair may feel sticky or tacky, or you may notice flakes in your hair or on your scalp. The smell of the product might not agree with you.

When I braid my hair it does not unravel, so I don't need beads or any type of elastic bands on the ends. Depending on where the beads are located in the hairstyle and the size of the beads(close to the scalp on either side of your head for example), you may notice some discomfort when your head hits the pillow. Yor hair may become tangled in the bands so be careful not to yank them off.

You might not be pleased with the results, but you'll still have to pay. While visiting the islands and on cruises, I have seen some nice looking braids and I've also seen "those scary braids".

Consider how much time you want to spend on your braided hairstyle. Do you really want a style that takes 3 hours to complete? How much money are you willing to spend?

Consider putting a few braids in your hair or your daughter's hair, yourself. (Just like Littlegoo75 said in her post). With a little practice, you might be pleased with the results. Then you won't have to worry about a dirty comb, pain, head lice, etc.

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We just got back from our Destiny vacation, where my children wanted to have braids. In case you are considering this, I tried to make an appointment in the ships salon, but they don't do that kind of braiding so we chose to have it done in Dominica, since there were no excursions we were interested in.

My oldest daughter has VERY curly hair, and never wears it down (think puffy). It was a thrill for her to feel like she had long straight hair from all her braids hanging. For her it was worth the time and the discomfort. We did bring our own comb, because it made my daughter feel better. I asked the braider if she minded using my comb, and she was fine with it.

Much to my dismay, since my children go to public school, we have, in fact, been visited by the lice fairy - not a fun ride, I can assure you. In my experience, I found out that head lice is the second most common childhood ailment, and can be spread through sharing hats, sweaters, headphones, and of course combs. It is more prevelant among girls, and it takes 10 days to 2 weeks before live bugs appear. Considering this, it is my opinion that some of these girls who claim to have gotten head lice from their visit to an island, could very likely have started their vacation with nits in their heads. btw, my head is itching as I type this.

As far as hair loss, this was the first time my girls had their whole heads done ($50.00 and $40.00 for their whole heads in Dominica, approx 50 braids), and I was absolutely amazed at how much breakage there was when we took the braids out.

Let me say that my children sat in the heat for approximately an hour having their hair pulled and tugged, and for them, it was time well spent. They both loved the outcome, and didn't have to fuss with hairstyles for the remainder of the vacation.

The women braiding were somewhat aggressive (this is their livelyhood, and there is a lot of competition at the port), but as long as you take it in stride, and take in the whole experience as a part of your vacation, it shouldn't surprise or bother you. I had a wonderful conversation with the women braiding my children's hair, and learned some things about life on their island.

As with anything else, there are pros and cons. I hope I've helped with my experience.
For my children, it was worth the effort, and the results were adorable, but I don't think we'll be doing it again anytime soon. But like the vacation itself, it was a new experience and a fond memory.

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this has certainly been interesting. i had the same thought as happycruisin that because of incubation periods the lice were probably present for some children prior to vacation. as mentioned it is very prevalent in schoolchildren.
i hope carmel has some new insights from everyones input and islandDelight, i'd love to have your skill in braiding! i'm so hair-challenged. my sisters used to braid my hair when we were teens and in college, i've never had much talent beyond basic braids so i definitely am amazed at the styles u can create yourself.

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This thread has been so educational, thank you to everyone. I am not at all certain we will do any braids now. My daughter's hair tends to break easily anyway, I kind of hate to risk it. I may wait and see if she even wants to go through this. I haven't really discussed it with her. She may not even care about getting the braids.

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I bet your daughter would probably rather swim with the dolphins or something like that - I bet that would be more memorable ( at least in a happy way) than getting her hair yanked and pulled on for a couple of hours.
Maybe go with her and get a braiding book and she can pick out what she would like for you to try on her hair. That sounds fun! A good way to kill time before the cruise!

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Island Delight -

I should just invite you over to my house to braid my daughter's hair before the cruise!

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