Rare Ombud Posted June 25, 2022 #101 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, ebeluga said: True to a certain degree. There are only a finite number of new cruisers who would play that kind of game more than once. It gets old pretty quickly. Any successful business needs repeated customers, I would think... She still says she got a bargain. And everyone in our group loved the cruise. I wouldn't have 5 future cruises if I wasn't willing to roll with the punches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinSusan70 Posted June 25, 2022 #102 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Ombud said: Me .... I was at that 'every shirt for $5 table' buying 1. Let's see: Elite = $5 2nd cruiser = over 5k Who does CCL want to return to any ship anywhere in fleet more? No question. Carnival has been marketing to the blues (1st cruise) and reds (newbies) for years. They don't care about those who are Platinum and Diamond. The same theory obviously holds true with Princess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted June 25, 2022 #103 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, CruizinSusan70 said: No question. Carnival has been marketing to the blues (1st cruise) and reds (newbies) for years. They don't care about those who are Platinum and Diamond. The same theory obviously holds true with Princess. The old saying : "It's just business" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted June 25, 2022 #104 Share Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, ebeluga said: True to a certain degree. There are only a finite number of new cruisers who would play that kind of game more than once. It gets old pretty quickly. Any successful business needs repeated customers, I would think... The objective is to hook new cruisers and have them strive to become higher loyalty tier cruisers as highest tier cruisers migrate up to more expensive (ie: club class) bookings to keep that exclusive feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted June 26, 2022 #105 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ombud said: The objective is to hook new cruisers and have them strive to become higher loyalty tier cruisers as highest tier cruisers migrate up to more expensive (ie: club class) bookings to keep that exclusive feeling We're high in Platinum, but we learned that we prefer the Deluxe Balcony to the more costly Minisuites on Royal Class ships. I only hope that the new class of ships will have decent sized balconies. I don't like needing to sit sideways on the balcony to enjoy the sea air. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted June 26, 2022 #106 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Daniel A said: We're high in Platinum, but we learned that we prefer the Deluxe Balcony to the more costly Minisuites on Royal Class ships. I only hope that the new class of ships will have decent sized balconies. I don't like needing to sit sideways on the balcony to enjoy the sea air. I have my favorite midship decks: Caribe on Grand class / E410-E425 on Royal class /don't like Crown Class but that would be midship on Caribe. Only took me 30 cruises to figure that out. I book early & mark no upgrade. actually got upgraded into those which is how I found them. E424/425 or E409/410 are better than a mini-suite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 26, 2022 #107 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Ombud said: The objective is to hook new cruisers and have them strive to become higher loyalty tier cruisers as highest tier cruisers migrate up to more expensive (ie: club class) bookings to keep that exclusive feeling Ironically the cruisers with the highest loyalty may not be the most profitable. While they are useful to fill ships, they also know the tricks about maximizing their value on the cruise. While some may migrate up, some may migrate down, There are a lot of Elite colored tags on inside rooms. Those new to cruising usually book ship excursions, buy a lot of the extras that one nolonger does on their 20th, 40th or 60th cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 26, 2022 #108 Share Posted June 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Ombud said: Me .... I was at that 'every shirt for $5 table' buying 1. Let's see: Elite = $5 2nd cruiser = over 5k Who does CCL want to return to any ship anywhere in fleet more? The Elite person, because Princess really, really wants to unload the $5 shirts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinSusan70 Posted June 26, 2022 #109 Share Posted June 26, 2022 https://cruiseradio.net/carnival-how-much-cruise-line-made-lost-post-shutdown-q2-2022/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 29, 2022 #110 Share Posted June 29, 2022 While checking my stocks just now, I came across this gem of a headline, "Carnival Stock Could Fall to $0 in a Worst Case Scenario" Here's the story via two different news outlets: https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/carnival-cruise-stock-price-target-cut-51656504056 https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/carnival-plunges-as-morgan-stanley-says-another-demand-shock-could-send-shares-to-0-432SI-2842167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted June 29, 2022 #111 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Honolulu Blue Posted June 29, 2022 #112 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Thanks for sharing. As a Carnival Corporation shareholder, I'm not too worried about it going to $0. Any business can go bust with little or no notice. Carnival's problems are well known; I think the analysts are just starting to wake up to how bad things were/are/will get. Some of Carnival Corp's cruise lines are filling up their ships with paying passengers - albeit some of them aren't paying very much. If they can fill the ships, they'll either figure out how to make enough $$$ to get by, or they'll attract a suitor who can handle their debt and collect the cash. In either case, their value will be above zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KKB Posted June 29, 2022 #113 Share Posted June 29, 2022 AND headlines that evoke strong emotions are deliberate... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted June 29, 2022 #114 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Any stock can go to $0.00. And some are. "Deep dark depression, excessive misery." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted June 29, 2022 #115 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Potstech said: Any stock can go to $0.00. And some are. "Deep dark depression, excessive misery." Hee Haw ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted June 29, 2022 #116 Share Posted June 29, 2022 We only hold this stock for the on board credit amd not as a real investment I never think about the stock's value 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted June 29, 2022 #117 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Gee, I wonder who is making $$$ on this announcement even if it’s all worst case hype, especially if some shorted the stock first thing this morning? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoBadKnees Posted June 29, 2022 #118 Share Posted June 29, 2022 If you added up all the shares held by individual holders who have between 100 and 200 shares, would it amount to over 1% of the total shares ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Honolulu Blue Posted June 29, 2022 #119 Share Posted June 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, TwoBadKnees said: If you added up all the shares held by individual holders who have between 100 and 200 shares, would it amount to over 1% of the total shares ? Interesting question that I don't know the answer to. More interesting to me, IMHO, is how many ships have 1% or more of the passengers using their shareholder credit (which means they have at least 100 shares)? My guess is "not very many", though I'm sure it varies from Seabourn down to Carnival itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcflats Posted June 29, 2022 #120 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Hey 👋 at $0 we’re buying! 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sonomaphil Posted June 29, 2022 #121 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Only $8.90 today, low is $8.75 two weeks ago week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted June 29, 2022 #122 Share Posted June 29, 2022 CCL’s current CFO David Bernstein & soon to be CEO made this statement which does not apply to me. My list of necessities is long however taking a vacation is not near the top of that list. "And remember, vacations are no longer a luxury, they're a necessity in today's world." https://stocks.apple.com/Ai-L3bz2jRGKURrfPc63cmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted June 29, 2022 #123 Share Posted June 29, 2022 It also says NCL and RCCl went down on pricing as well. Someone is going to make bundles on short sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roberto256 Posted June 29, 2022 #124 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, CineGraphic said: While checking my stocks just now, I came across this gem of a headline, "Carnival Stock Could Fall to $0 in a Worst Case Scenario" I think trading would be halted, or the stock de-listed before it could actually get to zero. Same result: worthless. I wonder if Mr. Padgett would be welcomed back to Disney? I'm joking. I'm sure Arnold Donald gave him enough money to leave Disney that he never has to worry about working again. Hopefully, some of the inducement wasn't options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted June 29, 2022 #125 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 hours ago, CineGraphic said: While checking my stocks just now, I came across this gem of a headline, "Carnival Stock Could Fall to $0 in a Worst Case Scenario" Here's the story via two different news outlets: https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/carnival-cruise-stock-price-target-cut-51656504056 https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/carnival-plunges-as-morgan-stanley-says-another-demand-shock-could-send-shares-to-0-432SI-2842167 please post when it gets in the $1-2 range ... i'll throw a couple hundo into the pot ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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