mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 #1 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Firstly, I know it was my fault. I just wondered people's opinion on this, and whether I can do something (or not, as they keep telling me) I am currently on a RC ship. Last night I was in the casino, cashed out, and put the voucher in my bag. I then visited a bar for a drink + sorrento pizza.. I know I was very stupid, and it is 100% my fault, but I left my bag in the bar. It only had a hairbrush and some lippie.. and the casino voucher.. I realised this morning, called guest services, who said the bag was handed in.. I went to pick up the bag, and the casino voucher was gone. I spoke to the casino manager, who said they will check if the voucher has been used, but if it has, it is lost and they will not do anything about it, even if they know someone has cashed it in. The argument being is that the casino voucher is the same as cash, so it is as if i left cash on the floor. Does this sound right? I know if I lost cash it would be my fault, but it seems unfair as the casino voucher is "linked" to me. I also know it is my own fault regardless for forgetting my handbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 16, 2022 #2 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just now, mtm103 said: Does this sound right? Yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted August 16, 2022 #3 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I once left money/points in a slot machine. I put my chair up as I had to rush to bathroom. My DH was 2 machines down. He saw a passenger go to the machine. He said something but the person ignored him. The person then cashed out. When I returned I told casino host and they sent security over who viewed videos of the person. Saw they cashed in my voucher and were now sitting at the bar. Security spoke with the guy and escorted him out. Never saw him again. Casino gave me my cash back around $150. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sunshine3601 said: I once left money/points in a slot machine. I put my chair up as I had to rush to bathroom. My DH was 2 machines down. He saw a passenger go to the machine. He said something but the person ignored him. The person then cashed out. When I returned I told casino host and they sent security over who viewed videos of the person. Saw they cashed in my voucher and were now sitting at the bar. Security spoke with the guy and escorted him out. Never saw him again. Casino gave me my cash back around $150. Thank you. To be fair now I think about it, I am not even sure if someone took the bag, and it was later found, rather than me forgetting it. The bar was packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted August 16, 2022 #5 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I once left a $20 bill laying on a table.......Someone was $20 richer. No, if the bag had no name, and no ID in it, than it is lost cash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said: I once left a $20 bill laying on a table.......Someone was $20 richer. No, if the bag had no name, and no ID in it, than it is lost cash Sorry, I don't understand, my bag had my name in it, it had my card? Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted August 16, 2022 #7 Share Posted August 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, mtm103 said: Sorry, I don't understand, my bag had my name in it, it had my card? Thank you Did the casino voucher have your name or ID (sorry don't know as don't use the casino)? Did you have your cruise card in your bag, in the first post you just said hairbrush and lippy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian fry Posted August 16, 2022 #8 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Ask security to review the camera footage. There are cameras everywhere 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 Author #9 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, kernow said: Did the casino voucher have your name or ID (sorry don't know as don't use the casino)? Did you have your cruise card in your bag, in the first post you just said hairbrush and lippy? I used my card to register at the machine - the casino manager checked the slot machine which I was playing at, so could see the voucher which I took out of the machine and the voucher generated. so they can trace it back to me.. their argument though is that a voucher is the same as cash, and it is my word against the other person that I didn't just drop the voucher, and someone else picked it up (rather than taken from my actual bag).. sorry yes, I had lipstick, hairbrush, a telephone charger, a credit card, a couple of receipts.. nothing valuable apart from the voucher.. the bag was also valuable.. weirdly that was handed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseygirl1416 Posted August 16, 2022 #10 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mtm103 said: I used my card to register at the machine - the casino manager checked the slot machine which I was playing at, so could see the voucher which I took out of the machine and the voucher generated. so they can trace it back to me.. their argument though is that a voucher is the same as cash, and it is my word against the other person that I didn't just drop the voucher, and someone else picked it up (rather than taken from my actual bag).. sorry yes, I had lipstick, hairbrush, a telephone charger, a credit card, a couple of receipts.. nothing valuable apart from the voucher.. the bag was also valuable.. weirdly that was handed in How much was the value of the voucher? If it was negligible I’d let it go hoping the person needed the money more than me. Edited August 16, 2022 by Jerseygirl1416 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted August 16, 2022 #11 Share Posted August 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Belgian fry said: Ask security to review the camera footage. There are cameras everywhere ^^^ This ^^^ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpcruiser Posted August 16, 2022 #12 Share Posted August 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, mtm103 said: I used my card to register at the machine - the casino manager checked the slot machine which I was playing at, so could see the voucher which I took out of the machine and the voucher generated. so they can trace it back to me.. their argument though is that a voucher is the same as cash, and it is my word against the other person that I didn't just drop the voucher, and someone else picked it up (rather than taken from my actual bag).. sorry yes, I had lipstick, hairbrush, a telephone charger, a credit card, a couple of receipts.. nothing valuable apart from the voucher.. the bag was also valuable.. weirdly that was handed in You said earlier that you only had lipstick and a hairbrush in it. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpcruiser Posted August 16, 2022 #13 Share Posted August 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, mtm103 said: I used my card to register at the machine - the casino manager checked the slot machine which I was playing at, so could see the voucher which I took out of the machine and the voucher generated. so they can trace it back to me.. their argument though is that a voucher is the same as cash, and it is my word against the other person that I didn't just drop the voucher, and someone else picked it up (rather than taken from my actual bag).. sorry yes, I had lipstick, hairbrush, a telephone charger, a credit card, a couple of receipts.. nothing valuable apart from the voucher.. the bag was also valuable.. weirdly that was handed in I believe the vouchers don't have any identity to them besides the amount of the voucher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footzz Posted August 16, 2022 #14 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Since you admitted it was your fault, the casino has little incentive to investigate it further. This irony of this situation is the definition gambling. The money was lost, but you got you bag back. You win some and you lose some. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 Author #15 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, fpcruiser said: You said earlier that you only had lipstick and a hairbrush in it. Sorry I was just listing the main things in the bag, the hairbrush and lipstick were the largest and the only thing which had any real "value". I also had some pins etc.. sorry I only mentioned the hairbrush and lipstick as that is the only other thing that cost anything Edited August 16, 2022 by mtm103 clarified 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtm103 Posted August 16, 2022 Author #16 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, footzz said: Since you admitted it was your fault, the casino has little incentive to investigate it further. This irony of this situation is the definition gambling. The money was lost, but you got you bag back. You win some and you lose some. I will need to speak to security.. I assumed I left the bag behind, as I didn't take it when I left, but there was plenty of opportunity for someone to pick it up.. the bar was packed as football was on.. standing room only.. bag was next to me. there is nothing to say that someone took the bag, rather than me forgetting it. I just assumed that this morning I left it. I didn't notice last night as I carried my phone and I also had some water cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineaux007 Posted August 16, 2022 #17 Share Posted August 16, 2022 What was the amount of the voucher? Is it worth it to pursue further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted August 16, 2022 #18 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I too think it depends on the value of the voucher, if it's a lot of money probably worth asking if they can look at the cameras. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Baltic Posted August 16, 2022 #19 Share Posted August 16, 2022 IMO this is theft. Yes, you left it there by accident but it would still be there if someone hadn’t lifted it. They also went through your bag if the voucher was taken. In this situation RC want it to go away because it’s a lot easier for them. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 16, 2022 #20 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Sounds like 46 minutes ago, mtm103 said: I will need to speak to security.. I assumed I left the bag behind, as I didn't take it when I left, but there was plenty of opportunity for someone to pick it up.. the bar was packed as football was on.. standing room only.. bag was next to me. there is nothing to say that someone took the bag, rather than me forgetting it. I just assumed that this morning I left it. I didn't notice last night as I carried my phone and I also had some water cans. Consider yourself lucky you even got your bag and all the other contents back. Edited August 16, 2022 by davekathy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted August 16, 2022 #21 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, fpcruiser said: I believe the vouchers don't have any identity to them besides the amount of the voucher. As vouchers, they don't. When I've had vouchers that have a couple of dollars or less on them, I've given them to someone when I leave the casino. I've had others do the same for me. That said, it's still theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmtx Posted August 16, 2022 #22 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I get a vibe from people when they cruise that they have to "Watch out for employees stealing stuff" - This is a good thread to reply and remind all cruisers that other passengers are the biggest thieves onboard a cruise ship. There was an article or segment of a show (can't remember now) about a sweet little couple in their seventies that would cruise every month and "pay for their cruise" with the loot they'd pocket. They loved the pool areas and bars especially. I'll leave my iPad on the desk in the stateroom, out in the open, and it's safe as can be. But I wouldn't leave my iPad on a bar table for 90 seconds to go to the bathroom. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 16, 2022 #23 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just throwing it out there...are you sure the voucher was in that bag? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgtp Posted August 16, 2022 #24 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I am sure a guest rifled thru the bag, took the contents and returned bag to staff, who rightfully turned it in. So yeah pretty much out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audcc77 Posted August 16, 2022 #25 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I’m sorry this happened to you OP. Would someone please explain what a voucher is and it’s purpose? If you “cash out” why do you not have actual cash rather than a voucher? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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