embpat Posted November 22, 2023 #1 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) Just returned from a cruise on the Paradise and I'm surprised there is no "Washi Washi" attendant as you enter the Buffett let a lone hand cleaning stations. My wife and I have cruised on Princess, Celebrity, RCCL and Holland since COVID and every one of those ships has an attendant and washing stations before entering the buffet. I would think Carnival would care more about the health of the passengers on there ships since everyone is handling the utensils to serve their own food. Edited November 22, 2023 by embpat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itried4498 Posted November 22, 2023 #2 Share Posted November 22, 2023 There's numerous handwashing stations so people who want to wash their hands will. I like the idea of Royal's set-up, but there's a large number of people who walk right in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted November 22, 2023 #3 Share Posted November 22, 2023 newer ships have it like the venezia have it, older ships do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embpat Posted November 22, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted November 22, 2023 They need to have an attendant telling people to wash there hand before entering the buffet as they do on the other cruise lines. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 22, 2023 #5 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, embpat said: They need to have an attendant telling people to wash there hand before entering the buffet as they do on the other cruise lines. Why? It isn't enforced anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted November 22, 2023 #6 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I just cruised on Elation and there were hand washing stations at the poolside entrance to the buffet. They were off to the side, perhaps you just missed seeing them? EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che-vos Posted November 22, 2023 #7 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I hate the "washy washy" thing on NCL. Makes me cringe to hear it, and also demeaning to the people doing it. We are adults. I don't need someone telling me to wash my hands, especially in such a silly way. Just grab some hand sanitizer or use those awesome auto hand washers. Can only control what you do, not others. Might be best to avoid the buffet and stick to the deli and.other options where they serve you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascartim Posted November 22, 2023 #8 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I was just on PARADISE, I saw hand washing stations near the buffet area. I don't think they have the man power to cover all entrances to the buffet area for that many hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted November 22, 2023 #9 Share Posted November 22, 2023 They have hand washing stations. Adults don't need a babysitter, just worry about yourself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny0315 Posted November 22, 2023 #10 Share Posted November 22, 2023 15 hours ago, embpat said: I would think Carnival would care more about the health of the passengers on there ships since everyone is handling the utensils to serve their own food. Holland America has for years now had crew serving you in their buffet eliminating everyone handling the utensils. They also were one of the first in the industry to have automatic hand washers over a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embpat Posted November 22, 2023 Author #11 Share Posted November 22, 2023 So I saw 3 people wash their hands when entering the buffet and at least 100 people who just walked in and didn't bother while I was seated for lunch one day. I think that they need an attendant to remind people about health and hygiene when handling utensils and food (washi -washi). The buffet is a place where Nora virus's love to cultivate and germs from dirty hands doesn't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny0315 Posted November 22, 2023 #12 Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, embpat said: The buffet is a place where Nora virus's love to cultivate and germs from dirty hands doesn't help. So you also may not want to interact with any door handle when going in/out of any public washroom on any ship then too.🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_gregor Posted November 22, 2023 #13 Share Posted November 22, 2023 If no wash stations are available, I just spit on my hands and rub them together. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoge3k Posted November 25, 2023 #14 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 3:16 PM, Destiny0315 said: So you also may not want to interact with any door handle when going in/out of any public washroom on any ship then too.🤔 Not just ships but literally any door in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 25, 2023 #15 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 8:31 PM, embpat said: They need to have an attendant telling people to wash there hand before entering the buffet as they do on the other cruise lines. Why do they need to have someone do that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 25, 2023 #16 Share Posted November 25, 2023 One of the most annoying things done on a cruise and the factss support they do not work. Here you go…. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 25, 2023 #17 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, fyree39 said: On Panorama I saw a number of always-empty sanitizers. I just made sure to wash my hands first. should not have a problem with line then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted November 25, 2023 #18 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, jimbo5544 said: One of the most annoying things done on a cruise and the factss support they do not work. Here you go…. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm Not sure what agenda you're trying to push by posting random CDC websites, but if we're going to discuss facts: That webpage only discusses gastrointestinal illness (i.e., not COVID). That webpage does not state hand sanitizers do not work. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/pub/handwashing/handwashingtips.htm, linked from that webpage, states, "If water and soap are NOT available (perhaps on excursions), use an ethanol alcohol-based hand sanitizer, preferably in a gel form. The sanitizer should be at least 60% ethanol." This is the reality at most Carnival buffets; on most ships Carnival has not added handwashing stations in any number sufficient to accommodate everyone eating at the buffet, as have for example Royal Caribbean and Princess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 26, 2023 #19 Share Posted November 26, 2023 14 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said: Not sure what agenda you're trying to push by posting random CDC websites, but if we're going to discuss facts: That webpage only discusses gastrointestinal illness (i.e., not COVID). That webpage does not state hand sanitizers do not work. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/pub/handwashing/handwashingtips.htm, linked from that webpage, states, "If water and soap are NOT available (perhaps on excursions), use an ethanol alcohol-based hand sanitizer, preferably in a gel form. The sanitizer should be at least 60% ethanol." This is the reality at most Carnival buffets; on most ships Carnival has not added handwashing stations in any number sufficient to accommodate everyone eating at the buffet, as have for example Royal Caribbean and Princess. I would never bring covid into a cruise discussion. I thought the point was clear, but I can clarify. The poster was questioning (I believe) why there was not strong suggestions for more cleaning stations (doubt that implies covid…but do not want to go into the weeds) on a particular Carnival ship. Also implied that Royal (with the washy washy) does it better. My post (and history supports this, hence the link to CDC data) is that with their extra effort, Royal has a significantly larger history of Noro. The site did not say that the hand sanitizer does not work, I questioned it. We can discuss the performance of the CDC (horrible) but that would be a different topic. That is the long version, the short is “washy washy fails. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlphn501 Posted December 7, 2023 #20 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 3:01 PM, embpat said: So I saw 3 people wash their hands when entering the buffet and at least 100 people who just walked in and didn't bother while I was seated for lunch one day. I think that they need an attendant to remind people about health and hygiene when handling utensils and food (washi -washi). The buffet is a place where Nora virus's love to cultivate and germs from dirty hands doesn't help. You could just wash your hands before you eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embpat Posted December 8, 2023 Author #21 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Really... Unfortunately no thought of doing that. But I think it is a nice thought.......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted December 8, 2023 #22 Share Posted December 8, 2023 11 hours ago, embpat said: Really... Unfortunately no thought of doing that. But I think it is a nice thought.......lol Unless you track them from whence they came. It is all perception, just like the perception that it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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