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Don't bother lugging the dressy clothes on the Summit

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I agree with NiniB. For what its worth I always dress according to code and feel that most people do. I don't care about anyone else and what they wear. I am amazed that people can dress in jeans and shorts and not feel conspicuous but then thats them!

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The point is - the world is a changed place. If casual was not the accepted norm, people would dress up.

 

The point is - I can spend my time worrying about what others are wearing or I can go with the flow. No matter what my personal choice is, others are "getting away with" a more casual manner of dress because THEY CAN.

 

The point is - Celebrity doesn't care. If they did, they would enforce the code.

 

And the real point is - we all love these dress codes strings - or they wouldn't survive as long as they do.

 

And you know what else? I just love the ease with which I can change colors, fonts, add a smiley face...

 

Thanks for the upgrade Cruise Critic Board.:D :D

 

And yes, I am bored this afternoon.

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I'll never understand those that want Ruth Chris Steak House for a McDonald's price...then dress accordingly. <sigh> The 'excuse' is always that it's their cruise and we should leave them alone. Good grief people, this is exactly why there are many different cruise lines. If you don't want to dress for dinner to create and maintain an elegant environment for everyone, then don't choose Celebrity to cruise with. There are lines that provide a more informal atmosphere that are just as good to cruise with as Celebrity.

 

Heck, maybe RCI has it right....perhaps TA's will counsel cruisers better about which lines are appropriate for their desires better.

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This is a bit of a long story....

 

We had booked a flight on Icelandair from BWI to Amsterdam last summer. We'd spend a few days there and then get on the Serenade of the Seas transatlantic back to Boston. Stupidly, some how, I had booked seats that were not remotely together. This is NOT GOOD because my partner was terrified of flying, heavily sedated, you get the picture, so I had to be seated next to him.

 

We are both 40, and we dress up a little bit to travel....nothing much, but nice khakis, a polo shirt with collar, and a blue blazer.

 

I went to the Icelandair counter and explained my dilemma, and they were very helpful. I inquired even about purchasing an upgrade to business class so we could be together, but it was a bit steep (aka, nearly $1K each!), but the woman at the counter told us to give her 15-20 minutes and come back.

 

So we wandered around the airport a bit and came back. She had 2 seats for us, one in front of the other, which I was willing to accept as pretty ok given the circumstances. It wasn't until we boarded that we realized these were in business class! We actually exchanged seats with some other passengers and ended up sitting next to each other in business class....dilemma solved, in a VERY nice way.

 

Moral of the story -- I believe being polite, respectful, and dressed in a way that suggests you didn't just roll out of bed were the key to our wonderful treatment that day. Ok, you may disagree, but I'm standing by my theory.

 

Jeff

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Jeff - I agree about being respectful and polite but I can't believe you think that because you had a blazer on had anything remotely to do with your upgrade. I do follow dress code in the dining room etc. but that statement is truly laughable. IMHO.

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Sorry, but I can not only back up Jeff's version, I have heard directly from airline service staff that that is exactly why I was upgraded. Just like cruise lines, airlines care about their image. They may not enforce a dress code by being less accomodating to a passenger who's paid for 1st class, or who has miles to upgrade, but if they're going to upgrade someone as a favor, it'll usually be someone who looks like the image of 1st class travel they want to project. Stereotypes? Sure. Judging people based on appearance? Yup. Also, the basic suppostion is that the airline will do this favor for a person who looks like they're traveling on business or is affluent, as that person is more likely to bring in more future revenue, and might be more brand loyal than the person in the two piece track suit, hunting for bargain airfare every time. Wait, wait, wait. I know that there are people who wear track suits who have more money than I will ever have, and, yes, I AM one of the ones that always hunts for bargains on the internet. I didn't say it was right, just that it happens.

 

Of course, since I'm always in a blazer anyway, I should probably agree that the way you dress has nothing to do with it- less likely you'll compete with me for the free upgrades!:D

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Sorry, but I can not only back up Jeff's version, I have heard directly from airline service staff that that is exactly why I was upgraded. Just like cruise lines, airlines care about their image. They may not enforce a dress code by being less accomodating to a passenger who's paid for 1st class, or who has miles to upgrade, but if they're going to upgrade someone as a favor, it'll usually be someone who looks like the image of 1st class travel they want to project. Stereotypes? Sure. Judging people based on appearance? Yup. Also, the basic suppostion is that the airline will do this favor for a person who looks like they're traveling on business or is affluent, as that person is more likely to bring in more future revenue, and might be more brand loyal than the person in the two piece track suit, hunting for bargain airfare every time. Wait, wait, wait. I know that there are people who wear track suits who have more money than I will ever have, and, yes, I AM one of the ones that always hunts for bargains on the internet. I didn't say it was right, just that it happens...:D
True on this side of the 49th Parallel, too. :)

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I agree with JeffCoud also. I arrived at the airport after most had boarded (icey roads). I was dressed elegantly (wanting to look good for my dad at the other end). I was asked if I would like to be upgraded to first class. I assumed they had oversold coach. Coach was half empty. I still believe it was the way I was dressed at 6:55AM. Unfortunately, it was the short legg of the trip. :D

 

To really show you how things are going downhill as far as dress, appearance, and attitude. On a flight from Hawaii near the end of the flight, the attendant came to me and said that she would just like me to know what a pleasure it was to have on board such an attractive well dressed lady that was also very polite. The polite part came because I had a kitten in a carrier and did everything they told me to without giving them an attitude. She then gave me a bottle of champage. How sad is that? It speaks volumes.

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I'm just a dress up kinda guy!;) If they lost their luggage, then I appologize.

 

I live on an island with a large beach and dress like a (clean) slob most of the time. When I go on a cruise I know what the dress code is beforehand.

 

They do too!

 

We get dressed up and feel good about ourselves. How do they feel about themselves?

 

They just don't care. They don't care for themselves, nor their parents and certainly not the cruise line and other passengers.

 

Each day's bulletin states the suggested attire for that evening. They just don't care and anyone who condones that action because "this a different day and age" are copping out!

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To say that it is ok for someone to not dress appropriately for formal night because "it is their cruise too" should read what the proper attire for the evening is.

If someone does not wish to dress up, there are other dinner options, and other cruise options as well that are laid back and causal, some are upscale some are not. But there are options.

 

We love to dress up for dinner, my husband wears a tux and a suit for dinner and I wear evening dresses. Do I care what others are wearing...well not really - It does however raise some eyebrows...on both sides of the specturm. The people that overdress night after night are just as bizarre as the people that underdress, I have seen everything from tiaras to holy 80's batman acid washed jeans (and I mean from the 80's too...I did not know jeans lived that long and people are STILL wearing them). That's one of the reasons we have a table for 2:)

 

We just returned from Mortons tonight and while we would never ever wear jeans to Mortons, there are people there doing just that. I don't think it's right, but I like dressing appropriately and yes you do get treated differently. There have been many times I have ran to Saks 5th Ave in my sweats, no make up and a ponytail - just running in for a quick tube of lipstick and I could have been invisible! When I go in all dressed for a day of shopping and lunch, I am hounded by salespeople...

 

 

I was raised differently...Sunday was getting dressed up for church and staying that way thru dinner at Grandmothers. When you traveled on a plane, espically first class, you wore nice traveling clothes, going out to dinner....dressed, on the holidays, you also got dressed up. Last month while in the Delta crown lounge, waiting for our flight all of the people there were well dressed....it was nice to see for a change.

 

Jeans are one thing but to see people in the club level of hotels going for coffee in their bathrobes.....and worse.... is out of control. Now that is just boorish and disrespectful of others. At least people in jeans have clothes on. I have seen this on my last cruise too.....it is not your home, put on some real clothing....shorts and a tee shirt will work just fine. Nobody should have to look at that.

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I saw the maitre de refuse entry to the elegant tea to a man wearing shorts. They were nice khaki pressed shorts worn with an Izod type shirt and dressy leather sandals, but they were shorts nonetheless.

Suzanne

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I don't attribute it all to the blazer of course, lol....it was the total package -- respectful and polite and looking cleaned up. Truly, I'm appalled at the way people dress while travelling and too often their attitude as well, and yes, I think it helped. Plus, if you read what I wrote carefully, they were seating us in business class....so we were dressed appropriately to fit in that context as well. Would they have put 2 people in raggedy tank tops and frayed jeans shorts there? I think not.

 

Jeff

 

 

Jeff - I agree about being respectful and polite but I can't believe you think that because you had a blazer on had anything remotely to do with your upgrade. I do follow dress code in the dining room etc. but that statement is truly laughable. IMHO.

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I can vouch for the fact that JoeO and his lovely wife Lila look absolutely fab on formal night!

 

Jeff

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I kind of have to chuckle from my last cruise on the summit. One night I entered the dinning room dressed up in my nice slacks, shirt and linen-silk sport coat and immediately noticed a man leering at me. I then realized I had not taken my ball cap off while dressing. I removed it with lighting speed and just smiled.

 

John

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Thanks Jeff.....We really try...and still do:)

 

Joe O

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[quote name='BB5953']Jeff - I agree about being respectful and polite but I can't believe you think that because you had a blazer on had anything remotely to do with your upgrade. I do follow dress code in the dining room etc. but that statement is truly laughable. IMHO.[/QUOTE]


I happen to agree with Jeff. We always fly first or business class and we see all the other first/business passengers dressed this way as well. Just as much as being respectful and polite, looking polished goes a LOOOOONG way. I doubt he would have been upgraded if he was polite, respectful and dressed like a smelly slob....I also do not think the other first class passengers would appreciate that, as the first cabin usually has only 20 seats. If airline personnel can choose whom the wish to upgrade, a guy like Jeff is the first choice.

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My wife and I just returned from the 7-31 Constellation Baltic 14-day sailing and saw no one in jeans or t-shirts on the formal nights. We had been on the Summit last Thanksgiving in the Caribbean (10 days) and people actually dressed up more on that cruise. On the Summit, perhaps 2/3 of the men wore tuxes on formal night and 1/3 suits. On the informal nights maybe 1/2 wore suits and 1/2 blazers or sports jackets. There was a sprinkling of jacketless men on informal nights, but I don't remember seeing any t-shirts. On the Constellation last week, maybe 1/2 were in tuxes on formal nights and 1/2 in suits. On informal nights, maybe 1/3 were in suits and 2/3 in blazer/sports jacket combinations, and maybe half of those with ties. I actually would have thought the Caribbean would have been less formal than the Baltics. I don't know if the added length had anything to do with it or not. We had a total of 3 formal nights and 4 informal nights during the 14 days, so maybe the clothes which were brought got "dirtier". We actually brought less on the longer cruise, but used their laundry services several times during the 14 days. We got next-day service and the cost was about the same as our local cleaners. In the casino, however, we did notice that a lot of people had changed back to casual clothes once dinner was over.

Allen

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At the risk of sounding like a snob:

Over the years, cruiselines have lowered prices significantly to fill their megaships. In doing so they have attracted a larger range of people in the socioeconomic classes. Need I say more?

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Hopefully, we dont equate the amount of "class" a person has with the amount of money they have.

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[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=magenta]JUDGE,, JUDGE,, JUDGE,, Geez i tell you.... :mad: AND THEN...... :rolleyes: [/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=#ff00ff]"i'm [u]SO[/u] .. [u]gorgeous,, well dressed,, fabulous looking,, classy,, ect.. ect..,," [/u][/color][/size][/font]
[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=#ff00ff]PLEASE,, :rolleyes: ,, to WHO??? YOURSELVES,, haha :p .... [/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=#ff00ff]You [u]FARTSY[/u] folks need to look in the mirror BEFORE tooting your own horns.... ive SEEN you guys DRESSED on the ships.....:eek: [/color][/size][/font]

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Nini,

Sounds like you're judging. No need to get so upset. You're entitled to your opinon, but so are others. What people wear won't make or break my cruise. It's just a lack of good old common sense that is sad.

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[quote name='JudithLynne']At the risk of sounding like a snob:

Over the years, cruiselines have lowered prices significantly to fill their megaships. In doing so they have attracted a larger range of people in the socioeconomic classes. Need I say more?[/QUOTE]


Nope you sure don't! You managed to insult enough people with that very biased and uncalled for remark. Even people with money can be slobs!

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"JUDGE"??? As in Judgement??? As in good judgement???

"CLASSY...DRESSED UP"??? As in classic??? As in good taste??? Dressy...as in following the dress code???

GEEEEEEE!!! WHAT A NOVEL IDEA!!!

ROSS

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Good Taste vs Bad Taste - I agree
Good judgement vs Bad judgement - yep
wise choices vs not so good choices - happens
rule follower vs renigade - oh yea

Love to dress up on my cruises - love to see others do the same. However, to attribute it to money and "class" No Way In H do I agree with that.

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