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We travel with a service dog..she is going to be on her 6th cruise in September and 7th in November.....We've learned a lot and have some suggestions for you....

  • Don't be hesitant to do it.....it's wonderful! And truly has made our cruising so much more fun!!!!!! :p
  • We've cruised on Celebrity/NCL/Princess/Carnival and HAL.
  • The Best (most accomodating-all around) - HAL
  • The Best set-up (potty-box) - NCL/Princess
  • The Best crew for dog friendliness HAL/Princess
  • Passenger friendliness...every ship we've ever been on. We only 1 passenger in all of our cruises who absolutely refused to eat in the Buffet area, with a dog!

If you have any questions about the ship requirements/easy way to deal with "special needs" departments/cabins/dining area/potty box/food/exercise/hotel/excursions/airplanes, etc. Ask away......

I don't want to bore you with all the details...so, I'll let you lead the way! ;)

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Thank you for posting this! I just joined this board to ask some questions for going on my first cruise, some of those questions being about cruising with my service dog. It is hard to find people who have cruised with their service dog.

 

I've travelled a lot with my service dog, domestically and internationally, but never on a cruise ship. (Only boats she's been on are high-speed ferries and the rides and Friendships at Disney.) The biggest difference, of course, being no land for pottying on a cruise ship!

 

We'll be going on Royal Caribbean in the spring. I see you haven't gone on them before, but I'll still accept any and all tips from ya. :D

 

RC's Web site says they provide a 4'x4' box of mulch as a potty spot. It doesn't say where or if they give a grass/turf option. I've written the special needs e-mail address, but never got a response. The TA (group trip) is supposed to be looking into the info. for me, but I hear she may forget about it. I think I will call RC myself.

 

Since we are seasoned travellers, I don't have questions about basic travelling or flying or anything. The biggest one is the potty box details. The other is an excursion for Cozumel, Mexico (I already know what I'm doing in Key West and can't get off at the other two places, as far as I have read up on via the Internet [technically I could get off at Cayman Islands, but am not about to spend the time and money {couple hundred} just for less than 8 hours there]).

 

Have you used one of those plastic water bowls that is supposed to keep the water from splashing/spilling out of it? I don't know how well they work and I normally just use the Outward Hound plastic folding travel bowls (the ones that fold up and you could keep the pack of three of them in your pocket), but I figured on a moving boat, it might be worth it to take up luggage space with the non-splashing bowl (I saw one brand with carpet grabbers on the bottom, so think I'll get that one to prevent the bowl itself from sliding/slipping around). I'll still use a folding bowl for food.

 

Any tips or stories you can post will be great! Thanks! :D

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We'll be going on Royal Caribbean in the spring. I see you haven't gone on them before, but I'll still accept any and all tips from ya. :D

Looks to me like Roz has been on Royal Caribbean 5 times according to her sig! I bet she can help you out. :)

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Quam: We have not taken "Brenda" on RCCL (those trips were prior to my receiving her!) However, I do have the "Special Needs" Department phone number for RCCL: 800.722.5472 Ex:#34492.

The Potty Box is always a "variable" on different cruise lines.

Celebrity uses a 4x4 wooden box (sturdily built) and filled with cyprus mulch. They placed it on deck 4 (starboard, forward), where the public does not go (unless it's an Alaskan cruise.) It's right outside the Theatre so it was very convenient in the evening, after the shows.

Depending on where your cabin is, you must go through the casino, forward and then out the Starboard side. Once "Brenda" did it, I was able to remove her leash once we were out on deck and she would go to her box immediately! These service dogs are so smart!!!!

Princess uses a 4x4 cardboard box (disposable) filled with woodshavings. They placed the box in a stairwell, around the corner from our cabin. It was great! However, if you are in a wheelchair this would not work. The door is extremely heavy, leading to the stairwell and has a huge lip that you must cross. I asked for this placement, specifically. They originally had the box on a deck that was used by smokers and they would drop their cigarette butts in the box. I requested that it be moved.

NCL uses a 4x4 wooden box (sturdily built), with a plastic liner and wood chips (the kind you see in gardens). It was placed exactly 20 feet from our cabin, in a laundry room that the crew uses for washing their mops. It had the words "crew only" on the door and it was the most convenient. I could go there in my pajamas! I loved it!!!!

Holland America uses a 4x3 wood box (smaller than the rest), (sturdily built), with sod, (the kind used for lawns.) It was placed on deck 3, forward. The only problem with this is it was the "wrap around" deck, where people would do their jogging or walking and was a bit distracting for Brenda. Boy, were they shocked when they say her doing her thing! Their hotel manager was the most wonderful. He would check with me, frequently, to make sure we were happy!

Carnival uses a 4x4 wooden box filled with those damn paper pellets. Before the muster drill and when I should have been exploring the ship or having lunch; I was busy trying to get them to move her box and put something else in place of the pellets.

The box was initially placed on the deck where they have a golf simulator (so while pople were playing golf, Brenda was supposed to go potty?) It was also located on a deck where you had to climb two sets of stairs, (what were they thinking?)

The hotel manager had a crew member leave the ship with a bucket and a shovel.....he literally dug up dirt, under a tree, across the street from the dock (this was in San Diego!) Unblieveable, but true!!!!! Once the dirt was mixed with the pellets Brenda easily relieved herself!

The box was moved to deck 10, where passengers smoked (I was always retrieveing cigarette butts out of the dirt!) It was better than where it was and I met with the hotel manager, to explain my displeasure of his being so ill prepared for a service dog and was offered a 15% discount on a future cruise!

Brenda has been in Mazatlan; Puerto Vallarta; Cabo San Lucas; Acapulco; Ixtapa; Zihuatenajo; La Paz; Catalina and more. In Mexico, the only problem is loose dogs. Although my husband became the "look-out" and protector, to keep the stray animals away; Mexico really does not have a "leash/vaccination or license law." So, be careful and watchful.

Brenda has her favorite "travel dish" that we bring on all cruises. It's a regular double/type water & food dish. It's made of plastic and travels well! You really do not need to worry about spilage. It never happens. The stabilizers on these grand ships keep the water in it's place.

She's on Eukanuba kibble; I put each days feeding in a plastic bag, put it in her dish, twice a day & save the bags for recycling. I carry a "foldable" water dish, in my purse. I love it and have used it many times (usually while waiting to board the ship.) I purchased it online from CCI (Canine Companions for Independence.) It has a clip on it so it can attach to my belt or to her vest.

Always get to know the Hotel Manager (he/she will make sure that you're needs are met.) Upon boarding the ship immediately go to the Purser's (Information Desk), introduce yourself and inquire as to where the box has been placed. If you're not happy insist they move it.

I must tell you that they will not always have the "filling" that you requested.....they use a variety of "fillers" from: Paper pellets (Brenda hates these; they're hard, circular shaped and are unpleasant to step on); various kinds of mulch; dirt; wood chips or wood shavings.

I now bring a bag of mulch with me. I pack it in a large plastic bag and place it in my hanging bag. I will NEVER take the chance of her not having what she needs ever again! It's way too time consuming and I miss too much fun, in the beginning of the cruise. If I don't like the filling, I dump my bag on top....mix it around...and, waalah! We're cruising!!!!!!!!!!:p

My suggestion is to try and get a cabin mid-ship this way, depending on where they place the box, you're never too far away! Although my favorite Handicapped cabin, on Princess, is in the aft part of the ship (this is the one I use the stairwell for her potty box!)

When "tendering" into a port. Make sure that someone on the "tender" is prepared to take your dogs leash, until you get onboard. And, the same for when you are re-boarding the ship! It can be a bit "spooky" because the "tender" is always moving and it puts the dog a bit "off balance!"

From what you've written, it seems that you're a pretty saavy traveler. I hope that the above helps a little more....

....Have a wonderful cruise! :)

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Quam: We have not taken "Brenda" on RCCL (those trips were prior to my receiving her!) However, I do have the "Special Needs" Department phone number for RCCL: 800.722.5472 Ex:#34492.

 

Thanks!

 

 

The Potty Box is always a "variable" on different cruise lines.

 

Celebrity uses a 4x4 wooden box (sturdily built) and filled with cyprus mulch.

 

That's what RCCL's Web site says they use - a 4'x4' box of Cyprus mulch. I need to look up online what exactly Cyprus mulch is. I don't know if it is similar to what is used around plants or not. My dog is fine with grass or the mulch used around plants (though she prefers grass, of course, as do I - the mulch isn't always as absorbant).

 

They placed it on deck 4 (starboard, forward), where the public does not go (unless it's an Alaskan cruise.) It's right outside the Theatre so it was very convenient in the evening, after the shows. Depending on where your cabin is, you must go through the casino, forward and then out the Starboard side. Once "Brenda" did it, I was able to remove her leash once we were out on deck and she would go to her box immediately! These service dogs are so smart!!!!

 

Sounds like that placement was semi-convenient. That is great that you could let her off-leash to go, since nobody else was there.

 

Do the ships normally have convenient places for you to throw out the poo pick-up bags?

 

 

Princess uses a 4x4 cardboard box (disposable) filled with woodshavings. They placed the box in a stairwell, around the corner from our cabin. It was great! However, if you are in a wheelchair this would not work.

 

I'm not in a chair, so a stairwell or other such location would be fine for me. A cardboard box doesn't sound as sturdy as a wood box, though!

 

The door is extremely heavy, leading to the stairwell and has a huge lip that you must cross. I asked for this placement, specifically. They originally had the box on a deck that was used by smokers and they would drop their cigarette butts in the box. I requested that it be moved.

 

That stinks that the smokers dropped their butts in the potty box! I'd have been ticked. (Although, was it labeled? If it wasn't labeled as a doggy potty, they prob'ly thought it was there for them.) Glad they moved it for you!

 

 

NCL uses a 4x4 wooden box (sturdily built), with a plastic liner and wood chips (the kind you see in gardens). It was placed exactly 20 feet from our cabin, in a laundry room that the crew uses for washing their mops. It had the words "crew only" on the door and it was the most convenient. I could go there in my pajamas! I loved it!!!!

 

That sounds like quite the ideal setup! Hopefully there were no exposed chemicals in there or anything. I wouldn't mind a setup like that.

 

 

Holland America uses a 4x3 wood box (smaller than the rest), (sturdily built), with sod, (the kind used for lawns.) It was placed on deck 3, forward. The only problem with this is it was the "wrap around" deck, where people would do their jogging or walking and was a bit distracting for Brenda. Boy, were they shocked when they say her doing her thing! Their hotel manager was the most wonderful. He would check with me, frequently, to make sure we were happy!

 

Haha, I can just picture people's faces coming around the corner on a cruise ship and seeing a dog in the midst of "doody"! :p Yeah, that definitely could be a distracting location, though.

 

 

Carnival uses a 4x4 wooden box filled with those damn paper pellets.

 

Paper pellets? What were they thinking?!

 

Before the muster drill and when I should have been exploring the ship or having lunch; I was busy trying to get them to move her box and put something else in place of the pellets.

 

The box was initially placed on the deck where they have a golf simulator (so while pople were playing golf, Brenda was supposed to go potty?) It was also located on a deck where you had to climb two sets of stairs, (what were they thinking?)

 

Oh yeah, great thinking. Sheesh!

 

 

The hotel manager had a crew member leave the ship with a bucket and a shovel.....he literally dug up dirt, under a tree, across the street from the dock (this was in San Diego!) Unblieveable, but true!!!!! Once the dirt was mixed with the pellets Brenda easily relieved herself!

 

That made me laugh!! That is awesome that they did that for you, though! Yeah, dirt is much better than paper pellets (cat litter?).

 

 

The box was moved to deck 10, where passengers smoked (I was always retrieveing cigarette butts out of the dirt!) It was better than where it was and I met with the hotel manager, to explain my displeasure of his being so ill prepared for a service dog and was offered a 15% discount on a future cruise!

 

That stinks it was in a smoking area and people dropped their butts in it all the time, but that's nice that they moved it from the golf area. That's great that you were able to share your displeasure and even got a discount! Hopefully the next time somebody brings their service dog on that cruise, they will know better.

 

 

Brenda has been in Mazatlan; Puerto Vallarta; Cabo San Lucas; Acapulco; Ixtapa; Zihuatenajo; La Paz; Catalina and more.

 

I can't even pronounce most of those, LOL! Sounds like she is well-travelled, though! :)

 

In Mexico, the only problem is loose dogs. Although my husband became the "look-out" and protector, to keep the stray animals away; Mexico really does not have a "leash/vaccination or license law." So, be careful and watchful.

 

Thanks for the tip! Maybe I will have to buy that "Direct Stop" stuff. Have you seen that? It is a can of citrus stuff that you can spray at attacking dogs. Unlike pepper spray, it can't harm them. It just startles and distracts them.

 

 

Brenda has her favorite "travel dish" that we bring on all cruises. It's a regular double/type water & food dish. It's made of plastic and travels well! You really do not need to worry about spilage. It never happens. The stabilizers on these grand ships keep the water in it's place.

 

Thanks! Good to know. I'll just stick with our regular travel bowls, then (the folding "disposable" [though I never dispose of them] ones).

 

 

She's on Eukanuba kibble; I put each days feeding in a plastic bag, put it in her dish, twice a day & save the bags for recycling.

 

That's what I do with her dried food when we travel, too. (She gets canned food for breakfast and dried for dinner. She eats Merrick for both.) I measure out the dried in individual baggies and then roll all the air out of them. I don't add the supplements 'til I feed them, though, mostly 'cause it wouldn't work (the powder and liquid ones would just get stuck on the bag) and so they stay fresh and all. I've never recycled plastic baggies, though. Never thought of that.

 

I carry a "foldable" water dish, in my purse. I love it and have used it many times (usually while waiting to board the ship.) I purchased it online from CCI (Canine Companions for Independence.) It has a clip on it so it can attach to my belt or to her vest.

 

Yeah, I keep one of the Outward Hound plastic folding "disposable" bowls in my dog's pack at all times. It does come in handy when you're out all day, especially when it is really hot out! And it takes up no room, so it is great.

 

 

Always get to know the Hotel Manager (he/she will make sure that you're needs are met.) Upon boarding the ship immediately go to the Purser's (Information Desk), introduce yourself and inquire as to where the box has been placed. If you're not happy insist they move it.

 

Thanks for the encouragement to be insistent!! I needed that. Hopefully I won't settle for a poor placement for the box! (I think I'll bring a sign with me, though, to label the box and say no cigarette butts are to be put in it, just in case.)

 

 

I must tell you that they will not always have the "filling" that you requested.....they use a variety of "fillers" from: Paper pellets (Brenda hates these; they're hard, circular shaped and are unpleasant to step on); various kinds of mulch; dirt; wood chips or wood shavings.

 

I now bring a bag of mulch with me. I pack it in a large plastic bag and place it in my hanging bag. I will NEVER take the chance of her not having what she needs ever again! It's way too time consuming and I miss too much fun, in the beginning of the cruise. If I don't like the filling, I dump my bag on top....mix it around...and, waalah! We're cruising!!!!!!!!!!

 

Great idea. How much of it do you bring? I've seen online a company that sells a plastic potty spot for dogs (for the apartment/highrise crowd) and have thought about checking that out for a "just in case" or easy-access idea (I have a balcony cabin).

 

 

My suggestion is to try and get a cabin mid-ship this way, depending on where they place the box, you're never too far away! Although my favorite Handicapped cabin, on Princess, is in the aft part of the ship (this is the one I use the stairwell for her potty box!)

 

I'm going with a group, so am not choosing the cabin. It is just whichever on the TA assigns/assigned (don't know if she has done it yet). I don't need a handicapped one, though, since I'm not in a chair, so it'll be just a regular cabin.

 

 

When "tendering" into a port. Make sure that someone on the "tender" is prepared to take your dogs leash, until you get onboard. And, the same for when you are re-boarding the ship! It can be a bit "spooky" because the "tender" is always moving and it puts the dog a bit "off balance!"

 

The only tendered port for our cruise is one we won't be getting off at (I didn't choose the cruise, as it is a group cruise I'm going on).

 

 

From what you've written, it seems that you're a pretty saavy traveler.

 

Yeah, I travel at least once a year (not including the vacation spot we drive to for some weekends or days or a month). Since I got my dog, it has been at least twice a year we've travelled (again, not including the one we drive to). She's been on at least 16 flights (and I've been on a ton more than that), including international. So, we've done the flying thing before. Just not the cruising thing (which I've also never done). And neither of us have been to Mexico before.

 

We were on two high-speed ferries this past weekend. It wasn't her first time on that kind of ship, but the first since I knew we were going on a cruise (still can't believe I actually signed myself up for one! :eek: What was I thinking?! LOL!), so I watched her to see what she thought of the whole boating thing. She didn't have any problem with it. My own stomach and head, on the other hand, was a bit bothered! Anti-seasickness pills, here I come! :p

 

I hope that the above helps a little more....

....Have a wonderful cruise!

 

It does, thanks!!!! :D

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After reading all this, I'm happier with my decision to leave my service dog at home when I cruise for the first time this fall. The potential problems on the ship are one thing (and I've already trained my SD to relieve herself on command,) but the hassles when going ashore are a greater unknown. Each country must have its own regulations about bringing animals ashore. And then there are the stray dogs, particularly in the Caribbean. Although I'll miss my SD for many reasons, at least I was able to find a safe and comfortable place for her to stay while I'm away on the cruise.

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Quam: Every ship supplied a waste disposal container, located next to the box, (I pick up/wrap up and dropt it) except for Carnival. So, I picked up the pooh; closed & knotted the bag and left it outside of the box. Next time we returned it was gone. I can only insist on so much!!!!!

Your idea of having a sign which reads "DO NOT PUT CIGARETTE BUTTS HERE, FOR DOG BUTTS, ONLY!" Is a great idea, I'm preparing one as I write this! I'll bring some tape to make sure it doesn't disappear!

"Direct Stop" I will have to look into getting some. That would be perfect and would help me to be more independent! Thanks!

By now I'm sure you've picked up on the fact that I double, triple check everywhere my girl goes, before she goes! All harmful chemicals and mops were removed from the area! And, I introduced her to the side of the ship (while on leash) to show her the ocean and the "drop!") Then she was allowed to explore, her own area, on her own!

 

The mulch that the ships use is the same that is placed in plant areas on land; in hotels, etc. Walmart or Green Thumb Nursery carries the (cyprus or cedar) mulch that I used and she loved it.

I buy the small bags; carry it with me (it's not heavy) when I go to the information desk to inquire about the box - (DO NOT TRY TO LOCATE THE BOX YOURSELF.....***INSIST THEY TAKEYOU TO IT!***) Pretend your navigationally challenged! I once spent 2 hours :mad: (not kidding):mad: looking for the box and it was not where they said and around and around I went. What a gross waste of vacation time! I'll never do that again!!:(

If I don't need my bag of mulch I leave it there. It's not expense but it will (I promise you) save you so much strife!

 

***When I insist on something, I always use my softest/kindest/gentlest voice. It goes a loooooong way!!!!!!! :)

 

Thank you for your helpful hints....maybe, one day, our paws will meet.

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dakwriter: I LOVE having Brenda with us.....she's such a part of me....I don't want to go anywhere without her.....and, my DH is so attached to her. He's a diabetic who suffers from severe neurological pain. When I come home from work, Brenda looks for him; lays down with him and he tells me that all his pain diminishes when she's around!

She works with me but really serves us both! It's amazing!!!! She changes me and lightens his load! I wouldn't think of going without her! She loves the ocean and is a wonderful traveler! She's my heart and soul!

I know it sounds like a hassle and believe me, it was! It isn't anymore...I've learned where to go/how to go and what is the easiest way of doing everything for cruising! Now, it's so much fun!

I love walking her, on deck. And seeing her face when the ship rolls out to sea. She loves the smell of the salt air. We play ball on deck and the attention she gets from the crew and other passengers is always welcome! I can't imagine a cruise without her! :p

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dakwriter: I LOVE having Brenda with us.....she's such a part of me....I don't want to go anywhere without her.....and, my DH is so attached to her. He's a diabetic who suffers from severe neurological pain. When I come home from work, Brenda looks for him; lays down with him and he tells me that all his pain diminishes when she's around!

 

She works with me but really serves us both! It's amazing!!!! She changes me and lightens his load! I wouldn't think of going without her! She loves the ocean and is a wonderful traveler! She's my heart and soul!

 

I know it sounds like a hassle and believe me, it was! It isn't anymore...I've learned where to go/how to go and what is the easiest way of doing everything for cruising! Now, it's so much fun!

 

I love walking her, on deck. And seeing her face when the ship rolls out to sea. She loves the smell of the salt air. We play ball on deck and the attention she gets from the crew and other passengers is always welcome! I can't imagine a cruise without her! :p

 

Oh, Roz, I really do envy you, but I'm glad for you at the same time.:cool: If I could take my sweet "Ruby" with me everywhere I most certainly would! I'm so very attached to her and not just because she intuitively knows what to do when I need help. But my DH, who is even more dear to me, pointed out that not only would we have to deal with shipboard hassles and the many unknowns at ports of call if we took her along, but we also wouldn't be able to go on any of the shore excursions we are hoping to enjoy. It's just the two of us -- who would watch after Ruby while we snorkel or cave tube? If I was single, I would simply skip the shore excursions altogether and stay onboard for the entire cruise, enjoying the amenities, the change of scenery, my fellow passengers and being with my beloved Ruby. That would be more than enough vacation for me.:) As things are, however, I've resigned myself to having to leave her behind when we cruise, just as I do whenever we go to Disney World.

All the best,

Deb K.

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Deb: Isn't life such a "give and a take?" I've given up some of what I used to do; such as horseback riding in Mexico so that Brenda could be with me. I chose her company instead and that's okay for me!

I'm sure that you've found the best place for your "Ruby" to be when you're traveling and that works for you. ;)

I wish you many, many healthy and happy days with her and funfilled, safe and joyful holidays with your DH!

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WOWOWOW ROZ! You are so informative and helpful! I do not have a service dog but I have friends who do...maybe I can convince them to come on a cruise! ;)

 

I am just curious, and you don't have to answer if you don't want to. I think people with visible disabilities are more "allowed" to have service dogs by the general public, if you know what I mean. For example, if someone has a helper dog, people usually know what the dog is for. Same for someone who is obviously blind - people know what the dog does. But what about someone who is visually impaired, or hearing impaired? I have a friend who is visually impaired and she can often "see" a bit, so sometimes she has gotten confronted over bringing her guide dog places - people assume that if she can read a restaurant menu by herself, she can see just fine! I have another friend who is deaf but speaks well, so some people don't think she is deaf and they confront her about her hearing ear dog. So how do you deal with it when other pax decide "oh she can walk, she doesn't need a dog!" and complain about it? I assume most people are okay, but I bet crew does hear complaints from people who think a dog shouldn't be on board. Has anybody ever confronted you directly about bringing her on a ship?

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I travel with my 10lb service dog named Valentine. To look at me I look fine and can walk with a cane for short distances but Valentine has gotten me out of some predicaments quite a few times. We do get some strange looks and a lot of questions. I don't mind a sincere question and Valentine and I will always stop and spend a few minutes explaining just what she does and why she is allowed to be on the ship when their pet is not. I have never had anyone say that they would not eat with a dog in the room. Everyone here has been very nice. I do always explain as soon as we are all seated that she is under the table so as not to catch anyone unaware and for her safety. I did have one drunk man say very loudly "There's that stupid service dog again!" Always said in a very loud mean voice everywhere that we went. How rude. Valentine has been on 6 cruises all in the . I have not run into the loose dogs in Mexico but I believe that we were probably lucky. Since Valentine is so small I do travel with her in a rolling suitcase, special for dogs, to keep her safe. She is small and people don't think to look down and one foot could break her little leg so even though we get the occasionaly laugh we will continue to ride this way. She doesn't help the laugh factor as she likes to ride standing up. I tell her she is surfing.! LOL

Valentine prefers the paper pellets for her litter box. I think it has something to do with size and the amount to absorb. We usually brought our own but Carnival has started to carry the very product that we use at home so we just use theirs. The only ship that we felt unwelcome on was NCL.

I say give it a try it really isn't that bad and she has been on 6 cruises so far and she would be going on a TA this year if we didn't have to stop in England. I would never quarantine her.

Smooth Seas

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Valentine's Mom: We've exchanged thoughts before. It's good to hear from you! And, I'm glad to see that "Valentine" is doing well!

I always warn people who are sitting adjacent to us, at restaurants or theatre's, that a service dog will be exiting from under the table or chair, "please don't be frightened!" I have always been thanked for doing this. Some people are scared to death of dogs and are not prepared to see one come out from under a table or chair.

Service dogs, in public places, should be considered the "invisible dog."

 

etoile: My quest in life is to educate the public about service dogs and their unique abilities. I also want to see them become more and more visible in the public arena.

The public needs to know that there are service dogs who are trained to do a myriad of jobs that don't always include assisting people who are blind. That is just "one" of the many, many jobs that these glorious animals can perform.

Brenda and I have been asked to leave department stores/restaurants/libraries/hair salons/hotels/airports, etc., etc. I have NEVER walked away without putting up a fight for my service dog. In some instances I've had to show what she actually does and I've produced her CCI/ADA (American's with Disabilities Act) license/city license and registered tags.

 

In Las Vegas we got our entire stay "paid for" because a security guard tried to escort me out and I went to the Hotel Mangager and complained. I know it's still a battle for service dogs but I'm a fighter and I hope to make it easier and easier. I enjoy the fight!

I know there are some disabled folks who would prefer to take the least path of resistence and I totally understand. However, that said.....I believe that more people (in the general public) would "get it" if more people like me didn't give up. And I won't!

 

As you've mentioned service dogs can do many, many tasks for many different people. Brenda can push the button on the elevator/open & close doors/pick up things off the floor/carry things in her mouth/tug a wheechair/open the refrigerator/retrieve items in drawers and then shut the drawer. She can alert to someone knocking on a door or alert to a phone ringing or someone saying a specific name or an alarm going off. She's amazing!

Brenda knows over 100 commands......and could learn more...it's up to me to train her.

 

And, you are so right, when you mention the attitude of the public when they see a perfectly healthy "looking" woman walking around with a big black labrador, aboard a ship or anywhere, in public for that matter.

They have had to leave their dear beloved furry friends with a kennel/mom & dad/grandma or friends. They're missing them and are curious why I can bring my "pet" on board and they can't!

 

I get the "goofiest" responses, when they see us. Such as, "I didn't know we could bring our pets on board!" Or, "How did you sneak her on?" Or, "You're not blind, how come you have a service dog?" And, on and on!!!!

I hope I haven't bored you all with the above......as you can see I'm very passionate about these dogs and I will defend them to the hilt!

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Arrgh! The Internet ate my reply! :mad: Here goes a second one....

 

Quam: Every ship supplied a waste disposal container, located next to the box, (I pick up/wrap up and dropt it) except for Carnival. So, I picked up the pooh; closed & knotted the bag and left it outside of the box. Next time we returned it was gone. I can only insist on so much!!!!!

That's good that they had a container (except Carnival, but at least they picked up the garbage for ya).

 

Your idea of having a sign which reads "DO NOT PUT CIGARETTE BUTTS HERE, FOR DOG BUTTS, ONLY!" Is a great idea, I'm preparing one as I write this! I'll bring some tape to make sure it doesn't disappear!

I LOVE your wording - "for dog butts only"!!!! :D

 

"Direct Stop" I will have to look into getting some. That would be perfect and would help me to be more independent! Thanks!

I've seen it for sale at Petsmart. I've also seen it in dog catalogs and online stores.

 

By now I'm sure you've picked up on the fact that I double, triple check everywhere my girl goes, before she goes! All harmful chemicals and mops were removed from the area! And, I introduced her to the side of the ship (while on leash) to show her the ocean and the "drop!") Then she was allowed to explore, her own area, on her own!

That's good they removed the chemicals. Great idea to lead her around to show her the side of the ship first! (For me, it might be my dog showing me the side, as I have a height phobia! :p And a drowning one! And, yup, I can get motion/seasick. Aren't I perfect cruise material?! ;))

 

The mulch that the ships use is the same that is placed in plant areas on land; in hotels, etc. Walmart or Green Thumb Nursery carries the (cyprus or cedar) mulch that I used and she loved it.

 

I buy the small bags; carry it with me (it's not heavy) when I go to the information desk to inquire about the box - (DO NOT TRY TO LOCATE THE BOX YOURSELF.....***INSIST THEY TAKEYOU TO IT!***) Pretend your navigationally challenged! I once spent 2 hours (not kidding) looking for the box and it was not where they said and around and around I went. What a gross waste of vacation time! I'll never do that again!!

 

If I don't need my bag of mulch I leave it there. It's not expense but it will (I promise you) save you so much strife!

I shall look for the small bags. Thanks for the info.! And, yeah, if an experienced cruiser like yourself had such a hard time finding the box, I definitely won't be able to find it on my own! I'll definitely ask to be taken to it, thanks!

 

***When I insist on something, I always use my softest/kindest/gentlest voice. It goes a loooooong way!!!!!!!

That's a good thing.

 

Thank you for your helpful hints....maybe, one day, our paws will meet.

 

That would be fun! :cool:

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As things are, however, I've resigned myself to having to leave her behind when we cruise, just as I do whenever we go to Disney World.

 

Oh, you really should take her to Disney with you! They are really great about service dogs being there.

 

She can go on a lot of the rides. For the ones she can't go on, you can do rider switch - one person stays with the dog while the other(s) go on the ride, then when that person/group finishes the ride, they stay with the dog while the person who didn't ride yet goes on the ride right then, no having to go through the line again or anything. I went where it was just one friend and myself, so I know what it is like to not get to ride things together, but it really isn't that big of a deal once you do it. I also know what it is like to go solo for a bit, since my friend had to rest for a few hours, so I was doing rides alone. I don't recommend solo if you like rides service dogs can't go on (like Splash Mountain, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, etc.), but one other person or more is fine.

 

Another option you can do if you either are solo or have a big hankering for going on rides with the only other person in your party is you can drop your dog off at the park's kennels (just outside the park's gates) while you go do the ride you want to do that your dog can't go on. It is free. I wouldn't necessarily recommend doing it, since your dog should be with you at all times, but if you must do it, it is there as an option.

 

Disney has designated service dog potty areas in the parks, too.

 

My service dog loved Disney World. Her favorite ride was Pirates of the Caribbean (but I think that might have something to do with Captain Jack Sparrow being in it now... ;) ). We had no problems there.

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Thanks for the info Roz. We have cruised before and left our service dog with a relative who also had a dog. They just had to put their dog down this weekend, so we are thinking of taking our dog with us. We are traveling on HAL and we have a few questions. I heard from one woman that they put the dog box on their balcony, have you heard of this?? We have an 80lb yellow lab and wondered if the dog can get some off the leash time in some area of the ship to run around?? We're traveling to St Thomas, Puerto Rico, Half Moon Cay and Grand Turk. We figured Turk would be the only problem to take the dog off ship. Also did you have to train your dog to go in the box? We appreciate all your input.

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Rangeley: I've inquired about putting the "potty box" on our veranda and have been told that it's a "health issue!" That neighbors on either side or top or bottom might not like it......not that we would leave any droppings in the box....and the urine smell would take at least 2 weeks before it would be noticed.....none of the ships, we were on, would allow it!

Going to the "potty box", is a good thing! It gives you both a chance to walk and Brenda always appreciates the stroll and the chance for all the different smells. It's a great way for her to get the necessary exercise she needs.

My DH and I always look for a secluded lounge, to play tridominoes, when everyone else is ashore. I bring Brenda's favorite ball and throw it for her, it gives her a chance to let out some of that energy and be off leash. I also find a deck; take her off leash; throw the ball (so it doesn't bounce) and she loves this. All of the ships have a "lip" around the sides so if the ball rolls to the side....it doesn't go overboard. Don't throw it high! Keep it low!

 

I definitely had to train Brenda to go into a box before cruising. It's very easy. Make a 4x4 box; put some mulch in it (keep it pretty thick to begin training, it gives them good footing); put it on your patio or in your backyard; (make sure it doesn't move, in any way) put the dogs leash on and lead her/him to the box; while holding the leash, walk to the other side of the box and use your command for going potty (while pulling on the leash.) The dog will, at first refuse, keep it up (you can use an intisive treat to lure them); until they urinate; give a treat and lots of praise. Repeat; repeat; repeat.......it's amazing and it's so convenient!

 

If you need further help with this, let me know!

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I love your avitar and the dogs both look like Brenda....it makes me smile!:p

Brenda's mom is yellow and her dad is black. Brenda is black and all of her siblings are yellow!

I never wanted a black dog until I worked with her, 5 years ago...now, I can't imagine my life without her!

Oh! I've got black hair all over my house..in places where you would never imagine hair could go! And, I'm a bit of a "clean freak!" That also changed, it took me some time to get used to the change...but, it's so worth it and so is she!

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Oh! I've got black hair all over my house..in places where you would never imagine hair could go!

We have four cats and we have decided that a meal is never complete without cat hair! We also have had one long-haired cat in the past, she died in January 2006 and we still find long fur bits around the house. :o

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I found a great US government site that lists the current requirements (most .PDF files) for entry for animals (not just dogs, but including dogs) into many foreign countries: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ncie/iregs/animals/

 

This link lists requirements for all the states, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/sregs/

 

Note that these links are about pets, not service dogs, so different requirements/exemptions (i.e. import permit fee exemptions like the Bahamas has) for service dogs may exist but not be listed. Contact the country's consulate or embassy for such information or if info. is not listed for that country.

 

There is also this non-governmental site that lists foreign country requirements (again, for pets), but make sure you check the information for accuracy before you go by it! Also, don't waste money buying the forms from them - you can get them for free either on the Web, by calling the country, or (for the health certificates) from your veterinarian. http://www.pettravel.com/

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The best resource for traveling with a Service Dog is your Vet. Or simply contact the Tourist Bureau of each country.

Also, NCL Cruise Lines required an Agricultural Inspection Form from our Vet. No other Cruise Line required this form.

Which can also mean that different foreign countries require different forms, as well!

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When I spoke with Royal Caribbean, they said they don't know any of the foreign country's laws on bringing a service dog into the countries. They only know the US entry law. I would've thought they'd know these things, but maybe somebody does, just not the special needs person I spoke with?? 'Twas strange - and the Cayman Islands person I spoke with thought it was strange, as well. Maybe they just don't want to be bothered?

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Again, call the Special Needs Department of RCCL - 800.722.5472 x:34492 - Ask to speak with the person who handles "On Shore Compliance & Regulations" for Service Dogs, in foriegn countries.

Some of the ships require that the Service Dog stay on the ship, with one of the passengers and you would have to take turns going ashore.

If you are traveling with a kennel that has a door on it, that can be closed, you may have to leave your dog in that while you go on your excursion. The door to the kennel must be closed and locked!

You should NEVER leave your Service Dog in the cabin, loose and unattended!:(

I hope some of the above helps!

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Wizard-of-Roz, thanks for all the helpful information. I am organizing a cruise for the Guide Dogs of Texas (GDTx) in January on RCCL. We have 22 people going so far, including two visually impaired people bringing their guide dogs. The potty box info was especially helpful as that is something people really want to know. I've read that other guests on a cruise would ask the dog's owner where the dog "went " After being told the would take an "excursion" to the potty box to see what it like. As I understand it the guide dog teams will be allowed to preboard and will be given a tour of the ship, to include the potty area. Thanks for the idea of the sign. I'll make one up with the cute saying about butts. :)

 

I've also requested a room be available each night for an hour for our group to gather and let the dogs run about.

 

I'm thinking about sending a prepared notice to the Hotel Director on the ship and asking it to be placed in the ship's daily paper. It would say something about visually imparied individuals and their guide dogs being on the ship and asking people not to pet the dogs.

 

We are going to Montego Bay, Jamaica, Georgetown, Grand Cayman and Cozumel, Mexico. The dogs cannot enter Jamaica. Someone will stay with the dogs on board while the visually impaired individuals disembark. We have 3 GDTx staff and 4 puppy raisers (minus their puppies) going on the cruise. Guide dog puppies in training aren't allowed to cruise. :(

 

I believe the dogs will be allowed to get off in Grand Cayman, but I am still working on the exact requirements. I found out that if our ship had gone to Mexico before we went to GC the dogs would not have been allowed to get off in GC. Even if the dogs had not gotten off in Mexico they would not have been allowed off in GC. But we are going to GC first so it will be OK. Mexico should not be a problem for the dogs, but I don't yet know if there are any special paperwork that needs to be done ahead of time. Any info on these two countries. I've contacted their embassies but never heard back from them. I'll try again a little closer to the cruise.

 

What paperwork did you get from your vet before the cruise? I heard that the paperwork is only good for 10 days. So, for a 7 day cruise the paperwork has to be obtained only a few days before departure so it will still be good to reenter the U.S.

 

I'm sure I'll have lots of questions in the future. Do you check this site often? Or are you on an email notification. Thanks again for starting this thread.

Mary

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Again, call the Special Needs Department of RCCL - 800.722.5472 x:34492 - Ask to speak with the person who handles "On Shore Compliance & Regulations" for Service Dogs, in foriegn countries.

I did speak to the Special Needs desk, but she simply said they don't know anything about the rules, never mentioned such a person as you said above, and asked if I needed anything else. :rolleyes: Go figure. I'll have to be sure to call back on a different day/time (can check my cell phone's records on when I called, hehe).

 

Some of the ships require that the Service Dog stay on the ship, with one of the passengers and you would have to take turns going ashore.

 

If you are traveling with a kennel that has a door on it, that can be closed, you may have to leave your dog in that while you go on your excursion. The door to the kennel must be closed and locked!

 

You should NEVER leave your Service Dog in the cabin, loose and unattended!:(

 

I hope some of the above helps!

 

I wouldn't be able to get off the ship and do things without my dog - that's why I have her - so we're just staying on the ship on the two ports we can't enter (Grand Cayman and Jamaica). That's three days in a row stuck on the ship (with the third day being the at-sea day), though, so I really hope I like the ship! ;) :p (I didn't pick the itinerary, remember - it is a group cruise.)

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Wizard-of-Roz, thanks for all the helpful information. I am organizing a cruise for the Guide Dogs of Texas (GDTx) in January on RCCL. We have 22 people going so far, including two visually impaired people bringing their guide dogs.

 

That's really neat! Don't forget to give us a report on how things went after the trip!

 

I'm going on RCCL, as well.

 

The potty box info was especially helpful as that is something people really want to know. I've read that other guests on a cruise would ask the dog's owner where the dog "went " After being told the would take an "excursion" to the potty box to see what it like.

 

LOL! That's funny that ppl would find that exciting to see. ;)

 

There is a Web site out there of a company that puts together cruises for service dogs. On their site they say they put wind chimes at the location of the potty boxes (guess they get two for having so many dogs on one ship) so the blind/visually impaired handlers can find the boxes easily. You might want to do that for your cruise, too.

 

As I understand it the guide dog teams will be allowed to preboard and will be given a tour of the ship, to include the potty area. Thanks for the idea of the sign. I'll make one up with the cute saying about butts.

 

I have been told that ppl with disabilities have priority boarding for embarkation and then go to a special area on the ship for priority debarkation, as well. This related to somebody in a wheelchair, but prob'ly also relates to those with service dogs since customs and all may take longer.

 

I've also requested a room be available each night for an hour for our group to gather and let the dogs run about.

 

That's a great idea! Let us know if they give you the room and if they charge you anything for it and all.

 

I'm thinking about sending a prepared notice to the Hotel Director on the ship and asking it to be placed in the ship's daily paper. It would say something about visually imparied individuals and their guide dogs being on the ship and asking people not to pet the dogs.

 

That's a good idea, too. Let us know if they do that for you. I think it would definitely cut down on the drive-by patting and questions. See if they can publish your school's Web site address so ppl can get more info., too - maybe you can even put up a special page just for ppl on the cruise to read.

 

We are going to Montego Bay, Jamaica, Georgetown, Grand Cayman and Cozumel, Mexico. The dogs cannot enter Jamaica. Someone will stay with the dogs on board while the visually impaired individuals disembark. We have 3 GDTx staff and 4 puppy raisers (minus their puppies) going on the cruise.

 

Those are the same places my cruise is going, just in the opposite order and plus Key West, Florida, USA.

 

Guide dog puppies in training aren't allowed to cruise. :(

 

I have heard about one person (I think it was the same person) who brought the puppy they were puppy raising on a cruise. I think they did it by telling the cruise line it was a service dog, as they also said Cayman Islands exempted the dog from the import fee (something they do for service dogs) and they keep calling it a "service dog", which, of course, it isn't. :mad: Then they let the puppy sit on furniture in the public areas of the ship, run about the ship off-leash (a video of which can be found on YouTube), etc. I sure hope nobody thought it was a real service dog acting like that!

 

I believe the dogs will be allowed to get off in Grand Cayman, but I am still working on the exact requirements.

 

They will if you want to pay a lot in vet fees. I am choosing not to spend $400 for eight hours or less in one country, but I know others have done so. A few messages ago I gave the link to a US gov't site that lists many countries' requirements. The full Cayman requirements for dogs is on that site, but here is the info. in my words as taken from that document:

 

You need six to seven months to prepare the dogs, so if you haven't begun the process already and your Cayman entrance is on or before Jan. 23 (if I calculated right), you may be out of luck. Dogs aren't eligible to enter until six months after their blood has been drawn for the rabies test (and the test shows they have enough antibodies) UNLESS they have had two rabies vaccinations not more than one year and not less than six months apart, with their microchip or tattoo having been applied before the most recent vaccination. (In other words, if the dogs are only vaccinated for rabies every three years, they aren't eligible for this six-month waiting period exemption.)

 

You're out of luck if the dogs don't fit the six-month exemption rule unless your entry to Grand Cayman is after Jan. 22 (if I calculated right - you can't enter until the 181st day after the blood draw) or they've already had the test done within the past two years. And that is only if the dogs have been vaccinated within what was a year prior to the day you'll be entering Cayman (between Jan. XX of this year and now), as you need about a 21 day waiting period between the vaccination and the blood draw.

 

If the dogs fit the rabies entry criteria (and I hope their owners are IAADP members, as there is a 50% discount on the rabies titer test for members), then they still have to do other things to enter the country. Within fourteen days of entering Cayman, the vet has to treat them with a tapeworm treatment containing praziquantel as well as treat them for ticks with a spot-on treatment containing fipronil (preferred), amitraz, pyrethrins, or permethrins - shampoos, collars, and preparations licensed for fleas only (such as Program, Advantage, Revolution, and Sentinel) are NOT acceptable. A health certificate endorsed by a full-time USDA veterinarian must also be done. Then, they have to apply for an import permit (usually $61 but I have heard they waive the fee for service dogs), which is then only valid for fourteen days (obviously, since all the above has to be done within fourteen days, LOL). The permit can be faxed to you. It takes about three business days to get. Finally, you must give 48 hours notice of expected date and time of arrival along with details of the vessel the dogs are arriving on.

 

Okay, so not only do I want to avoid the vet fees, but also the crazy hassle of all the fourteen-day-before stuff! :p

 

I found out that if our ship had gone to Mexico before we went to GC the dogs would not have been allowed to get off in GC. Even if the dogs had not gotten off in Mexico they would not have been allowed off in GC. But we are going to GC first so it will be OK.

 

Correct about they can't enter Mexico (as well as certain other countries) and then enter Cayman. I didn't know that staying on the ship was included, however. Funny, since the dogs can stay on the ship in Cayman without going through the health requirements! :rolleyes: Good thing I decided not to spend the $400 and crazy 14 days!

 

Mexico should not be a problem for the dogs, but I don't yet know if there are any special paperwork that needs to be done ahead of time. Any info on these two countries. I've contacted their embassies but never heard back from them.

 

For Mexico, only a health certificate dated no more than 72 hours prior to travel is needed. (It has to state, of course, that the dog has been vaccinated for rabies and distemper.) The Mexico requirements are also on the links I gave in a previous post.

 

Yeah, embassies don't get back to you real quick. It is best to call them on the phone and keep trying different numbers 'til you get an answer. Try the agriculture number first.

 

I'll try again a little closer to the cruise.

 

Always find out the requirements as soon as you know you're going someplace, as some (like Cayman) take six or more months (and a lot of money) to do!

 

What paperwork did you get from your vet before the cruise? I heard that the paperwork is only good for 10 days. So, for a 7 day cruise the paperwork has to be obtained only a few days before departure so it will still be good to reenter the U.S.

 

Different countries have different requirements on how long a health certificate is good for. For entry into the US, it is good for 10 days. For Mexico, 72 hours before travel (I was told by the USDA that for a cruise, this would be 72 hours before the cruise begins). For Cayman, 14 days.

 

Good luck! You're sailing just before I am.

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Boy! Talk about turning off service dog handlers from cruising......

 

The paperwork for traveling to Mexico is:

1. Current Service License from an accredidated organization

(this should include Tattoo number/chip etc.) Some have a picture of you and your dog, some do not.

2. City License (current) within the year

3. ADA info. Usually on back of service license. Some don't have it.

4. Vaccination Status (from Vet.) Must be current on Rabies/DHLPP(tag #/Serial # and type of vaccine will be on the form.)

(the Vet form will state expiration dates on these vacc. This form should also mention Heartguard use and Advantix (whichever you use for flea and ticks). MAKE SURE YOUR WELL WITHIN THE EXP. DATES.

5. NCL requires a Dept. of Food and Agriculture form. A visit to your vet will get you this. (He/she has the forms.)

 

Taking your service dogs onto land in some of the ports....is just NOT a good idea, anyway! Many of them, as I've said before have NO LEASH or VACCINATION LAWS! PROTECT YOUR SERVICE DOG!

 

The experience of cruising is such a wonderful one...and, has become "about the ship" sometimes, for us! You will love these amazing ships and what they have to offer, while in port. You, virtually, have the ship to yourselves and there's always something to do! The casino and shopping will be closed but the crew have classes/games and just plain relaxing available all day! There won't be long lines or traffic issues.....it a joy!!!!!

 

I promise you will love cruising, even if you can't go into some of the ports. On sea days the gift shops will be open and the myriad of things to buy is endless!

 

The windchime idea is wonderful....however, it's not always used. Don't depend on it. The potty box will be set up in an area that is very accessible for you. If it is not.....let the "Information Desk" or Hotel Manager know and they will have it moved to a more convenient spot for you. They want you happy!

 

Having your information put into the daily paper is a great idea! Tell them that there will be a "petting time" when guests will be allowed to touch your dog........they will love this and you for it!

 

The ship may tell you they do not have an empty room available for the dogs to roam freely. If you wait until it's a port day and most everyone leaves the ship, you will find an empty lounge, on your own as we have done. And, we let her off leash and throw her ball, she loves it! There may be a crew member in the lounge repairing or painting something (they use these days to clean-up the ship), don't let him/her stop you....it's your ship to enjoy!!!!!!

 

Many times I will put Brenda into a seat in the theatre....just for her own safety....she is black....and, when lights go out, she's invisible! I feel more comfortable about her not being stepped on. I have never had anyone complain about it! I also carry "Caution Tape" with me. I keep it all rolled up in my purse and I use it when I go to the movies or can not put her up on a seat (it's yellow & black) and can be seen in the dark. I lay her between two seats or in a handicapped area and string the tape across the two seats. (You can find the tape in a hardware store.)

 

I ALWAYS enter or exit the plane/train/bus/cruise ship before anyone, with the other handicapped or preferred guests. You may have to request this from the registration/security people prior to doing it. I have never been refused. This will allow you to pre-board and go to the Information Desk to find the location of the potty-box/explore the ship; before the rest of the passengers board.

 

Even if you are able bodied (not in a wheelchair) but you do have a service dog.....go to the handicapped registration area. You have the right to be there.....don't be hesitant or shy about getting special privledges.....your dog must be protected from the hordes of other people's feet! The registration folks will see your dog and know that he/she is with you for a special reason. They are not permitted to ask what the dog does for you. Some still ask out of curiosity. You would laugh at some of the answers I've given them!

And, if you've never cruised before, you won't believe the hordes of people's feet you & your dog will be encountering!!!!!!!! Protect them!!!

 

I do allow people to touch Brenda....only upon being asked first. It's very difficult for some people, who are missing their furry friends, to hold back. And, rather than having them "stealing pets", when I'm not looking I allow them to touch her........Brenda loves, loves children and when the parents see the children walking right up to her nose and see her, with her loving eyes and sniffing at their faces....they light up!

 

I have literally turned a "sour on dogs" ogretype person into a very gentle, loving soul after he watched Brenda interact with his grandson! I don't give much time for this..... I give her a "release" command, I allow just short pets and interactions and then she's put right back to work.

 

Unfortunately, you will find that the elevators on cruise ships are highly used and are, usually, always very full. It's a perfect time for me to show how well behaved she is with the above command and some "down time" with inquisitive and friendly fellow passengers. They will love you the rest of the cruise for this! And become more welcoming. I do realize that with "seeing eye dogs", this may not be possible! Use your good judgment...and know that most people who ask about the dog and true "dog lovers!"

 

Don't be turned off by some of the "hoops and whistles" it appears you'll have to go through.......just don't get off the ship!

 

When they anchor the ship, near land and you can see the hills/homes/villages/flora and fawna right from the deck or from your veranda; it's all you need! IMHO! Getting into a tour bus (that may or may not have air conditioning) or battling the crowds on a humid/dirty/crowded back street is just not always necessary to get the "lay of the land!" The food and ambiance of the country, your visiting, can be enjoyed, right on board!

Some ships bring the local culture on board to entertain you and you can purchase the very same "goodies" right in the gift shop!

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Relax, bring your service dog with you and have a wonderful cruise!!!!!!

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Boy! Talk about turning off service dog handlers from cruising......

I wasn't turning anybody off, just getting them prepared for reality. There is a price to be paid for using a service dog, and that includes the inability to travel to places without six/seven months prep and a lot of money spent at the vet. For some countries, like Mexico and I think Canada, it is as simple as a health certificate (also costs money, but not like taking blood costs). For other countries (as well as the state of Hawaii), it isn't as simple and does cost a lot of money. A lot of ppl are used to the ease and access we have here in the States, forgetting that it isn't at all the same in other places.

 

The paperwork for traveling to Mexico is:

 

1. Current Service License from an accredidated organization

(this should include Tattoo number/chip etc.) Some have a picture of you and your dog, some do not.

Pets are allowed to enter Mexico, so a service dog certification isn't required. Mexico doesn't have service dog laws. And certification isn't required for the US.

2. City License (current) within the year

That also can't be true, as not all cities have licenses. Nor do any of the entry requirements I've seen for Mexico say anything about a license.

3. ADA info. Usually on back of service license. Some don't have it.

The ADA doesn't apply to you once you step outside of the US. No place in Mexico has to allow your service dog to enter, as they don't have laws about that there. The ADA is meaningless outside of the US.

4. Vaccination Status (from Vet.) Must be current on Rabies/DHLPP(tag #/Serial # and type of vaccine will be on the form.)

(the Vet form will state expiration dates on these vacc. This form should also mention Heartguard use and Advantix (whichever you use for flea and ticks). MAKE SURE YOUR WELL WITHIN THE EXP. DATES.

Heartworm prevention (not just the brand you happen to use, by the way) and flea/tick prevention (not just the brand and type you happen to use, as well) are also not requirements on any document I have seen for Mexico.

5. NCL requires a Dept. of Food and Agriculture form. A visit to your vet will get you this. (He/she has the forms.)

We're going on RCCL, not NCL. I don't think they can require a form that isn't needed to enter the countries, however, as the courts have ruled the cruise lines do fall under the ADA.

 

Taking your service dogs onto land in some of the ports....is just NOT a good idea, anyway! Many of them, as I've said before have NO LEASH or VACCINATION LAWS! PROTECT YOUR SERVICE DOG!

 

True, one must be very careful. And not just with other dogs in the port, but people, too! Be careful where you go.

 

The experience of cruising is such a wonderful one...and, has become "about the ship" sometimes, for us! You will love these amazing ships and what they have to offer, while in port. You, virtually, have the ship to yourselves and there's always something to do! The casino and shopping will be closed but the crew have classes/games and just plain relaxing available all day! There won't be long lines or traffic issues.....it a joy!!!!!

Yeah, I really hope that most ppl get off the ship at the ports. That'll be really nice! :)

 

I promise you will love cruising, even if you can't go into some of the ports. On sea days the gift shops will be open and the myriad of things to buy is endless!

Myriad of things to buy - that could be dangerous!!! :D

 

The windchime idea is wonderful....however, it's not always used. Don't depend on it. The potty box will be set up in an area that is very accessible for you. If it is not.....let the "Information Desk" or Hotel Manager know and they will have it moved to a more convenient spot for you. They want you happy!

I meant she should bring their own windchime. I don't know if the cruise line has one of their own or not. Sorry for not being clear about that.

 

Having your information put into the daily paper is a great idea! Tell them that there will be a "petting time" when guests will be allowed to touch your dog........they will love this and you for it!

A lot of service dog users don't want to encourage ppl to pat their dogs.

 

The ship may tell you they do not have an empty room available for the dogs to roam freely. If you wait until it's a port day and most everyone leaves the ship, you will find an empty lounge, on your own as we have done. And, we let her off leash and throw her ball, she loves it! There may be a crew member in the lounge repairing or painting something (they use these days to clean-up the ship), don't let him/her stop you....it's your ship to enjoy!!!!!!

I would discourage this practice. It doesn't mesh with service dog etiquette. If the room was closed off for your use, that's fine. But your service dog shouldn't be off-leash in a public place (except if it needs to be for doing a task, of course, but then it isn't really loose, just working off-leash).

 

Many times I will put Brenda into a seat in the theatre....just for her own safety....she is black....and, when lights go out, she's invisible! I feel more comfortable about her not being stepped on. I have never had anyone complain about it! I also carry "Caution Tape" with me. I keep it all rolled up in my purse and I use it when I go to the movies or can not put her up on a seat (it's yellow & black) and can be seen in the dark. I lay her between two seats or in a handicapped area and string the tape across the two seats. (You can find the tape in a hardware store.)

Service dogs should NEVER be up on furniture in a public place (unless needed for a task). It's not only part of basic service dog etiquette, but common courtesy for others around you and who come after you (especially if you have a dog that sheds, also fitting for those who have to clean the place) and for the sake of service dog teams those ppl might come across later on. Your dog should be on the floor between or next to your legs. Ppl who are stepping near her would know she is there bec. you would tell them, as they'd also be stepping over you, so nobody is going to sneak up and step there. You can also put something glow-in-the-dark on her (i.e. the pack I use behind my dog's harness is embroidered with glow-in-the-dark thread that says "SERVICE DOG" and "DO NOT TOUCH").

 

I ALWAYS enter or exit the plane/train/bus/cruise ship before anyone, with the other handicapped or preferred guests. You may have to request this from the registration/security people prior to doing it. I have never been refused. This will allow you to pre-board and go to the Information Desk to find the location of the potty-box/explore the ship; before the rest of the passengers board.

 

That's great that you have never been refused, but others, including myself, have. I don't except pre-boarding anymore, although one of the last times I flew the ladies at the gate were surprised I wasn't already lined up at the gate, LOL. It just depends on who is working at the time! It isn't a big deal for me, although if I have a window seat on the plane, it is best if I am seated before the others in my row so that they won't have to get up out of the seats and wait in the aisle while I get my dog's mat out of the bag, put it down, put the bag in the overhead, get my dog down, and get myself down. (I don't do well stepping over ppl's feet/legs - I may end up in their lap! :eek: )

 

Even if you are able bodied (not in a wheelchair) but you do have a service dog.....go to the handicapped registration area. You have the right to be there.....don't be hesitant or shy about getting special privledges.....your dog must be protected from the hordes of other people's feet! The registration folks will see your dog and know that he/she is with you for a special reason. They are not permitted to ask what the dog does for you. Some still ask out of curiosity. You would laugh at some of the answers I've given them!

Under the ADA, they are allowed to ask what the dog does for you. A lot of ppl do ask just out of curiosity, though, like you said. I'd love to hear some of your answers, though! :p

 

And, if you've never cruised before, you won't believe the hordes of people's feet you & your dog will be encountering!!!!!!!! Protect them!!!

We've been in lots of crowded places before - nothing new to us. My dog isn't small, so ppl see her.

 

I do allow people to touch Brenda....only upon being asked first. It's very difficult for some people, who are missing their furry friends, to hold back. And, rather than having them "stealing pets", when I'm not looking I allow them to touch her........Brenda loves, loves children and when the parents see the children walking right up to her nose and see her, with her loving eyes and sniffing at their faces....they light up!

I do hope you explain that not every service dog handler allows their dog to be patted. Most do not want their dogs distracted from their job, especially dogs who alert to sounds, medical problems, and other things or otherwise needs to keep their person safe.

 

I have literally turned a "sour on dogs" ogretype person into a very gentle, loving soul after he watched Brenda interact with his grandson! I don't give much time for this..... I give her a "release" command, I allow just short pets and interactions and then she's put right back to work.

I sometimes allow friends to pat my dog once I give the appropriate command (to the dog, that is, LOL) and occassionally strangers, but I don't make a habit of it and usually say no. My dog is there to work, not to entertain ppl or make them feel warm and fuzzy. She has plenty of time when she's not working to be spoiled (and boy is she ever! LOL. I'm sure your dog is, too).

 

Unfortunately, you will find that the elevators on cruise ships are highly used and are, usually, always very full. It's a perfect time for me to show how well behaved she is with the above command and some "down time" with inquisitive and friendly fellow passengers. They will love you the rest of the cruise for this! And become more welcoming. I do realize that with "seeing eye dogs", this may not be possible! Use your good judgment...and know that most people who ask about the dog and true "dog lovers!"

We're used to very full elevators, as well. I always put her in the corner against the wall in a sit or stand. She knows this and goes there automatically as soon as we enter an elevator unless we're alone in it or with only one or so other person. I'm not sure if you were saying you let your dog say hi to ppl while you were waiting for the elevator or while in the elevator, but I don't think a crowded elevator is the best place to give your dog a release command.

I have business cards in my dog's pack and may give to ppl who are curious about my dog. (Giving it to them depends on if I remember to and/or if I can easily and quickly get them out at the time.)

 

Don't be turned off by some of the "hoops and whistles" it appears you'll have to go through.......just don't get off the ship!

Hoops and whistles? Never heard that phrase before - just the one about jumping through hoops. I like it, though - very cute!

 

When they anchor the ship, near land and you can see the hills/homes/villages/flora and fawna right from the deck or from your veranda; it's all you need! IMHO! Getting into a tour bus (that may or may not have air conditioning) or battling the crowds on a humid/dirty/crowded back street is just not always necessary to get the "lay of the land!" The food and ambiance of the country, your visiting, can be enjoyed, right on board!

I'm hoping our balcony will face the ports instead of the ocean. It'd be nice to sit out there and look at the countries we won't be visiting. I do wish I could go to Hell in Grand Cayman, just to say I've been to Hell (LOL), but oh well! I told my friend to see if she can find one of those shirts that say something like, "My friends went to Hell and all they got me was this lousy shirt!" Haha!

 

Some ships bring the local culture on board to entertain you and you can purchase the very same "goodies" right in the gift shop!

 

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Relax, bring your service dog with you and have a wonderful cruise!!!!!!

 

The gift shop could be a very dangerous place.... :p

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I would like to caution people that the dog relieving facility may not be consistently what the cruiseline says. Princess gave our service dog a piece of astroturf in a stairwell...he thought it was carpet and would not use it. Holland gave him a box that said for animals up to 35 pounds and he weighs 100 pounds...he became very precise. Celebrity has consistenly been the four by four box with mulch. Also, he absolutely would not use a practice box at home. His attitude was the yard is right there. On the ship, no problem.

 

If you feel comfortable leaving your dog with someone else, we have found that the people in guest relations have always been delighted to dogsit when we have been in a port where the dog could not get off the ship. We have left him on the ship at least once on every cruise he's been on (7). We have his water bowl, leash, and a toy for the sitters. They all have a good time and so does he. I know that option does work for everyone, but it does for us.

 

Our overall experience has been wonderful. There has never been a crew member who treated us negatively in any way, and we have met many more fellow passengers than we ever did pre-dog.

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Under the ADA, they are allowed to ask what the dog does for you. A lot of ppl do ask just out of curiosity, though, like you said. I'd love to hear some of your answers, though! :p

Totally unrelated to cruising, but perhaps you can confirm my understanding of this point of the ADA. People who are serving you are not allowed to ask what your disability is but they can ask what the dog does for you. For example, if a person in a wheelchair who works with a service dog is asked this question, they might say "she helps me stand if I need to" or "he holds doors open for me if they're not automatic" but they shouldn't be expected to say "I have MS" or "I am partially paralyzed" or something like that. Is that correct?

 

I mention "people who are serving you" because obviously the general public has no idea of this - I have seen people ask friends "why do you need a dog?" and they will either say "because I am deaf" or "because I am visually impaired" or simply the "what she does for me" routine. I have noticed that children especially are more likely to say "what's wrong with you?" rather than "what does the dog do?" But people who are serving you - individuals or corporations or whatever - are not allowed to ask the "what's wrong with you" question. Is that right?

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Holland gave him a box that said for animals up to 35 pounds and he weighs 100 pounds...he became very precise.

 

Yikes! How big was the box, do you recall?

 

Celebrity has consistenly been the four by four box with mulch. Also, he absolutely would not use a practice box at home. His attitude was the yard is right there. On the ship, no problem.

 

Haha, I wouldn't be surprised if my dog did the same thing! "What are we doing here? The yard is over there!" At the office, the only place to go is a strip of mulch, so I know she is fine with mulch (and has used it other places, as well). But, at least it will be winter when I'll be trying the practice box, so maybe I'll try it out first when it is inclement weather so she'll want to come inside right after going. :)

 

Our overall experience has been wonderful. There has never been a crew member who treated us negatively in any way, and we have met many more fellow passengers than we ever did pre-dog.

 

That's good to hear. How has your experience in the ports been as far as ppl treating you and also access?

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Totally unrelated to cruising, but perhaps you can confirm my understanding of this point of the ADA. People who are serving you are not allowed to ask what your disability is but they can ask what the dog does for you. For example, if a person in a wheelchair who works with a service dog is asked this question, they might say "she helps me stand if I need to" or "he holds doors open for me if they're not automatic" but they shouldn't be expected to say "I have MS" or "I am partially paralyzed" or something like that. Is that correct?

 

Yup, you've got it. :) A business can't require you tell them what your disability is (that is legally confidential info., after all!), but they can ask what tasks the dog does so that they have some way of determining a real service dog from a pet (it is crazy, but some folks try to bring their pets in restaurants and other no-pets places by telling the place it is a service dog!). A person can tell ppl their disability if they want to, of course, but they are not required to tell anybody if they don't want to.

 

Myself, the mobility harness I use with my dog is pretty darn apparent ;) so if ppl ask what she does for me, I tell them she helps me walk. Ppl accept that and don't ask further about what the exact tasks are (i.e. balance, counterbalance, momentum pull, etc.). I do usually also say she retrieves things for me, though, which is an exact task. Mostly it is the curious public who ask, though - I think I've only ever been asked by a business twice, both times which were in airports (security ppl walking around, not an airline or the security check folks).

 

I mention "people who are serving you" because obviously the general public has no idea of this - I have seen people ask friends "why do you need a dog?" and they will either say "because I am deaf" or "because I am visually impaired" or simply the "what she does for me" routine. I have noticed that children especially are more likely to say "what's wrong with you?" rather than "what does the dog do?" But people who are serving you - individuals or corporations or whatever - are not allowed to ask the "what's wrong with you" question. Is that right?

 

Correct. The ADA doesn't cover the curious public, just public places (and, therefore, those who work there). And, yup, many in the public are pretty curious (guess they didn't hear that tale about the cat...). I've gotten the "What's wrong with you?" question before from an elderly lady, but never from children. A lot of children I've come across must've learned about service dogs in school or their parents taught them, as they know what to do when they see one. Some kids learn on the spot as their parents explain to them why the dog is there and how it is working and such.

 

One crazy thing I heard once was a lady who knew she couldn't pat my dog, but said aloud to me that it wasn't fair I could bring such a cute dog in and she couldn't pat it! :rolleyes:

 

Some ppl take photos of my dog, usually with permission but at least one time that I know of without permission. Hopefully all of the pics are just of the dog and not me! ;)

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This is a very informative thread. Thanks to all who have posted here. I have found many threads about traveling with a wheelchair; but very few about traveling with your service partner.

My daughter received her service dog last year. We have cruised with them three times to Nassau, so I know the paperwork for the Bahamas. This year they will be cruising with us to Jamaica, Grand Cayman, and Mexico (in that order). They will be staying on the ship in both Jamaica and Grand Cayman; but may want to get off in Mexico.

Other than an international health certificate, is there any thing else she would need to do or have to get off in Mexico? Any special tests, lab work? How about getting back into the US? Are there any special concerns with taking your service dog into Mexico?

One other question. Have any of you been given sod in the relif box, instead of mulch, when traveling with Royal Caribbean? If so what did you have to do to insure that you had sod?

We will be traveling on the Liberty, if this makes any difference.

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This is a very informative thread. Thanks to all who have posted here. I have found many threads about traveling with a wheelchair; but very few about traveling with your service partner.

Yeah, there isn't much info. out there on going on a cruise with a service dog at all. You'd think there would be, with the number of ppl I've come across that have done it (several ppl on this board, somebody on a non-cruise board, ppl who have talked about seeing a service dog onboard, and a travel agency that puts together service dog user cruises). (I haven't ever gone on a cruise yet.)

 

My daughter received her service dog last year. We have cruised with them three times to Nassau, so I know the paperwork for the Bahamas.

We go to the Bahamas, too, just by air instead of ship. :) Aren't the folks at the Humane Society in Nassau really nice?!

This year they will be cruising with us to Jamaica, Grand Cayman, and Mexico (in that order). They will be staying on the ship in both Jamaica and Grand Cayman; but may want to get off in Mexico.

I'm curious to know what's keeping you from Cayman - the price of the vet stuff? The hassle of it? Can't fit the time requirements? For me, it is the price and hassle.

 

Other than an international health certificate, is there any thing else she would need to do or have to get off in Mexico? Any special tests, lab work? How about getting back into the US? Are there any special concerns with taking your service dog into Mexico?

Read some of the above posts - Mexico is mentioned and the link I gave before to the US gov't site that lists the requirements for many countries (for pets, not specifically service dogs) has Mexico on it. Mexico needs a health certificate, no rabies titer or anything. US needs a health certificate.

I have heard there are many loose dogs in Mexico, so be cautious. You may wish to carry some DirectStop (I think that's the name) spray, which you can get at the pet store (I know I've seen it at Petsmart before) or an online pet store. It is a citrus spray that you can spray at the attacking dog to distract it. Most dogs don't like citrus (although who knows - maybe in Mexico they do!) and the spray action will distract them and all. Remember to pack it in your airplane checked baggage, not carry-on baggage, if you are flying to the port.

 

One other question. Have any of you been given sod in the relif box, instead of mulch, when traveling with Royal Caribbean? If so what did you have to do to insure that you had sod?

I haven't sailed yet, but did think of asking them for sod/turf. I decided not to, though, so never asked if it was a possibility. You should call the Access Desk (you can find the number here on the board somewhere - I think even in the first page of this thread, maybe) and ask about it.

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On the turf issue, we have asked for it on every single cruise, and we have never received it. On Celebrity, it's been the mulch. On Holland, it was dog litter and the box was like a big cat box. He had to straddle it. On Princess, they started with astroturf, moved to a sheet of cardboard, moved to terra cotta pellets that I believe would be used in floral arrangements, and moved to sawdust. We have not been back on Princess since that experience, but I know others have had very different experiences, including group cruises. The first couple of cruises, the dog was not wild about the box and he would wait everyday to see if we were going ashore before he would use it. Now it's fine with him and he'll use the box even when he can see that we are docked.

 

He loves sailing and will even sit out on the balcony by himself on occasion and look out to sea.

 

Our last three cruises have been Alaska, Hawaii, and back to Alaska again. Interestingly, we had more challenges on the Hawaii cruise than all the others put together, including an open air restaurant that tried to deny us access. In the Caribbean, if the dog could get off the ship at all, we generally have had no problems. We did have a restaurant in Aruba tell us that we couldn't come in, but we have eaten other places in the Caribbean without a problem. Anywhere in the Caribbean or Mexico, you do have to keep an eye out for stray dogs.

 

BTW, on our May cruise to Alaska, there were three dogs, all from Guide Dogs for the Blind. One belonged to a friend who was vacationing with us, and the other belonged to one of the priests onboard.

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Roz, Just wanted to say thanks for all your help and to tell you that Brenda is beautiful!!

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Oh, you really should take her to Disney with you! They are really great about service dogs being there....

 

Another option you can do if you either are solo or have a big hankering for going on rides with the only other person in your party is you can drop your dog off at the park's kennels (just outside the park's gates) while you go do the ride you want to do that your dog can't go on. It is free....

 

My service dog loved Disney World. Her favorite ride was Pirates of the Caribbean (but I think that might have something to do with Captain Jack Sparrow being in it now... ;) ). We had no problems there.

Quampapetet, when I phoned Disney World's kennels they told me they charge for kenneling dogs.

 

And I had no idea you could take an SD on any of the rides! Ruby is a small Lab, but still 60 lbs. I can't imagine getting her into a Pirates of the Caribbean boat! What breed is your SD?

 

Regardless, my DH won't allow Ruby to come with us, anyway, seeing her inclusion as yet another hassle besides the wheelchair. So to keep the peace I leave her crated at home and limit our DW visits to just a couple of hours. For longer absences I have to leave her with a neighbor since my DH doesn't want her to fly or cruise with us, either. Ah, well. I suppose Ruby is better off even though I'm not sure that I am. :(

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On the turf issue, we have asked for it on every single cruise, and we have never received it.

 

I wonder if they can't do turf because of different countries' importation of soil laws?

 

On Princess, they started with astroturf, moved to a sheet of cardboard, moved to terra cotta pellets that I believe would be used in floral arrangements, and moved to sawdust.

 

:eek: A sheet of cardboard?!?! Are they crazy?! A sheet of cardboard can't even hold that much liquid!

 

The first couple of cruises, the dog was not wild about the box and he would wait everyday to see if we were going ashore before he would use it. Now it's fine with him and he'll use the box even when he can see that we are docked.

 

Smart dog! :)

 

He loves sailing and will even sit out on the balcony by himself on occasion and look out to sea.

 

Aww! Got any photos of that?

 

Our last three cruises have been Alaska, Hawaii, and back to Alaska again. Interestingly, we had more challenges on the Hawaii cruise than all the others put together, including an open air restaurant that tried to deny us access.

 

Wow, weird! I've been to restaurants here on the mainland US where they allow pet dogs in their outside seating areas.

 

In the Caribbean, if the dog could get off the ship at all, we generally have had no problems. We did have a restaurant in Aruba tell us that we couldn't come in, but we have eaten other places in the Caribbean without a problem.

 

That's good to know. I haven't had any problems in the Bahamas once the whole service dog concept is explained to them (they don't have service dogs there - one guy tried having a guide dog once, but was denied access so much that he gave up, according to somebody we spoke to who lives there).

 

BTW, on our May cruise to Alaska, there were three dogs, all from Guide Dogs for the Blind. One belonged to a friend who was vacationing with us, and the other belonged to one of the priests onboard.

 

That is cool that one of the priests onboard has a guide dog! :)

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Quampapetet, when I phoned Disney World's kennels they told me they charge for kenneling dogs.

 

They do charge to kennel pets there for the day and/or night. They don't charge if you want to leave your service dog for an hour/couple of hours while you do things in the park that she can't go on or wouldn't be good for your particular dog to do. Remember to mention your dog is your service dog for your disabilities. If you get the same answer, speak with someone higher up in the chain of command.

 

And I had no idea you could take an SD on any of the rides! Ruby is a small Lab, but still 60 lbs. I can't imagine getting her into a Pirates of the Caribbean boat! What breed is your SD?

 

Yup, they can go on most rides - just not ones that have height restrictions or would otherwise not work with a service dog on it (such as Soarin'). Disney's Web site's accessibility guide lists all the rides service dogs can't go on (they also list some that they "don't recommend" - I think that's 'cause they don't understand how service dogs are trained to be fine with most noises and sights and such - but it is fine to bring them on those rides). All the rides that aren't listed as ones they are not allowed on, they can go on. We did things like The Great Movie Ride, Haunted Mansion, Pirates, small world, The Seas w/Nemo, Spaceship Earth, Buzz Lightyear, and others. She couldn't go on things like Test Track, Mission: SPACE, Splash Mountain, etc. so my friend held her at the exit for me and then we switched places (if my friend wanted to ride the ride).

 

There are certain seats on some rides that are better for service dogs than others. Like on Pirates and small world, the front seat is a bit roomier. Of course, they can also put less ppl in the row to give your dog the floor space of where that person would've been instead. Some rides also have wheelchair boats/sections you can use for extra space (one ride, I think The Great Movie Ride, sat us automatically in this section).

 

My dog is a Portuguese Water Dog. She's a little smaller than your dog, but if you sit your dog in the footspace next to you, instead of in front of you (on top of your feet), she'd fit.

 

Regardless, my DH won't allow Ruby to come with us, anyway, seeing her inclusion as yet another hassle besides the wheelchair. So to keep the peace I leave her crated at home and limit our DW visits to just a couple of hours. For longer absences I have to leave her with a neighbor since my DH doesn't want her to fly or cruise with us, either. Ah, well. I suppose Ruby is better off even though I'm not sure that I am. :(

 

Sounds like your hubby isn't yet fully keen on the idea of your having a service dog. :( That stinks. I'm not married, but I've heard some hubbies take it to mean you don't need/want their help anymore.

 

Going to Disney really isn't all that different from going anywhere else with your dog. Plus, it is fun to show your dog all the sights and sounds of Disney! :p

 

Flying isn't too difficult with a dog, either - I recommend the bulkhead row (though now some planes are being made where the bulkhead is the exit row so you can't sit there, GRR!! Look for a plane that isn't like that!). My dog has been on at least 16 flights so far.

 

Cruising, well, I'll tell you about that after we try it. :)

 

I hope you get your hubby to see that you need your SD! I hope you are able to take her with you next time. If you do, post here and we can all give you tips on flying with a service dog.

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