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Just received a new booking confirmation sheet for our W909 cruise with a booking notification attached.

* NEW SMOKING POLICY*

All Cabins, Suites and Private balconies onboard P&O Cruises will be smoke free from February 2008 (W806 & N806)

Smoking venues will be published in the daily newsletter onboard.

 

Pretty much just leaves some deck spaces and the Sports bars / Casino area.

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Just received a new booking confirmation sheet for our W909 cruise with a booking notification attached.

* NEW SMOKING POLICY*

All Cabins, Suites and Private balconies onboard P&O Cruises will be smoke free from February 2008 (W806 & N806)

Smoking venues will be published in the daily newsletter onboard.

 

Pretty much just leaves some deck spaces and the Sports bars / Casino area.

 

Great news Jen I hope that includes The Dome :( You couldn't smoke in all parts

of it but there was a place for those who smoke. And if you sat near there the smoke stunk terrible when your a non smoker

Cheers guys ( How are you ?):D

Be good to see you and Phil on 24th

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Yes, thank goodness. Our bathroom didn't have an extracter fan, so can you imagine what a cabin would smell like after a smoker had been cooped up with no open windows. It would be most unpleasant for the ship to smell like an old ashtray, and I think that people with kids would be especially thankful not to subject their kids to passive smoking. At least adults can make the decision to move away from smoke, but kids don't understand.

 

As it was, despite loads of warnings over the pa system, people INSISTED on throwing butts over the sides because one morning I counted 4 on our balcony. People are so ignorant. I understand that smokers need to be catered for on a cruise. There should be a smoking 'areas' where non-smokers could avoid. On our cruise, it seemed that smokers almost 'stuck together' as there were a few large tables up on deck with a few smokers.

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Just a quick question,how many people on here actually smelt stale smoke in their cabin on embarkation? I have not read one! Seems to me that non smokers like to get self right chose about people smoking anywhere!

Try to remember that a lot of smokers are addicted and would also love to be non smokers and tried to quit many many times.

Smoking in any confined area is stupid and all smokers know this too,but being given permission to smoke in an area is like being given the nod that smoking cant be all that bad because otherwise it would not be allowed here.

With the changes in smoking laws over the recent years smokers are slowly getting used to not smoking in front of non smokers in case they offend them,I remember smoking on airoplanes,kids now days wouldnt believe that you could smoke in planes,and cinemas.

I agree that smokers should only smoke in special set out smoking areas,and so do many other smokers.

Please spare a thought for smokers,already alienated and made to feel second class wherever they go,and we will be more conscious of the ill effects smoking has on all.

Lobby your MP to have smoking made illegal in Australia,I would march on any rally for that,the goverment is to blame for smoking not praised for banning it in certain situations.

 

Den.

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As an ex smoker, I can see both sides of the story. The only time I have been affected by smoke, was on my recent cruise. I was in the casino and the smoke from the cigar bar was overwhelming. I had to leave. Most of the smokers were in the designated place. I chose to leave. They were doing the right thing.

 

(this was not on a P&O ship guys, by the way).

 

Cheers

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No smoke stench in our cabin, thank goodness. But during the cruise the corridor outside of our room stank to high heavens, compliments of a group of 4 old ladies in an inner cabin two doors down from us.

 

The cabin steward warned them of the danger of lighting up in an enclosed room and of setting off the smoke alarm. They didn't listen, even went so far as to tell him that they absolve him of any responsibility for the alarm going off!

 

Daily we saw the steward spend extra time on that cabin airing it out and deodorising the surfaces with harsh chemicals (he showed us more than one bottle!). And my wife and I both sympathised with him on the day of our disembarkation, when he had to strip the entire room of not only its sheets and coverings, but also its contents such as chairs and the mattresses themselves. Basically everything that was not bolted down and could be removed was exchanged for spares from the ship's stores!

 

So tell me, would you have smelt stale smoke in your cabin upon disembarkation? Not if the cabin steward/stewardess had anything to say about it. Not when said steward/stewardess would have copped it from his/her supervisor if the new guests complained about a smelly cabin. Not when he/she would have worked his/her hands to the bone to make sure your experience with your cabin was a pleasant one!

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We have never smelt old cigarettes in our cabins. :)

 

But it is ridiculous to have a large room divvied up into a smoking section and a non smoking section.

 

That's like having a peeing section at one end of a swimming pool. :p

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The staff and non smokers can all have a sigh of relief in Feb then!

P&O makes the rules on their ships and the cleaning staff Know what they have too do before they take the job,its no good blaming the smoker for smoking in areas they are allowed to smoke in,thats like blaming an over weight person for eating in a buffet.

 

Den

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We have never smelt old cigarettes in our cabins. :)

 

But it is ridiculous to have a large room divvied up into a smoking section and a non smoking section.

 

That's like having a peeing section at one end of a swimming pool. :p

I agree totally. Unfortunately, from my experience most smokers do not seem to realise that their exhaled smoke might be offensive, or even a health hazard, to other people. I don't object to anyone smoking, as long as I do not have to inhale their smoke.

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That's true, Den. I don't know what the answer is. But there should be no smoking indoors. And not just when the ship is in Australian waters.

 

Designate spaces outside, like the rear deck 10 (Baja) on the Dawn. If they put in a bar where the Aqua Hut is, it could be a good area.

 

Dogboy53 is drumming up support for a bar there. It is his favourite spot. :)

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I agree totally. Unfortunately, from my experience most smokers do not seem to realise that their exhaled smoke might be offensive, or even a health hazard, to other people. I don't object to anyone smoking, as long as I do not have to inhale their smoke.

 

Problem is you have no problem with smokers unless they are smoking near you! If smoking is allowed in an area then you have to move if you dont like it,I dont agree with it but thats the rules.P&O should ban smoking full stop,do i think they will do it? No!

In Perth the smoking laws have been in for quite a long time and when I go outside to a smoking area there is always a good mix of smokers and non smokers?Why on earth would a non smoker willingly stand next to smokers?Beats me,different strokes for different folks.

I am a smoker and believe smoking should be illegal but it never will be.

If every smoker used snuff to get there nicotine intake that still wouldnt cure the problem because people just dont like other people doing what they dissagree with.

 

Den.

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Hi my Aussie friends. I have to say on my last cruise with a friend that I smoke, she doesn't. She snores, I don't. We talked about that and respected each one of our conditions! LOL! The cabin never smelled of smoke and we had friends come over to enjoy the balcony and no0ne complained. Now the snoring had to be be reckoned with but nothing to be a big jerk about! It's all about compromise, and respect for others!

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Ok ok I am really blaming non smokers for my inability to quit:mad:

I will make a conscious effort to give up smoking while on the cruise and promise I wont make my cabin stink for the next cruier who gets my cabin on the Dawn.I will also not smoke anywhere near the icecream stand or in the Dome.

 

Den.

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Just a quick question,how many people on here actually smelt stale smoke in their cabin on embarkation? I have not read one! Seems to me that non smokers like to get self right chose about people smoking anywhere!

Try to remember that a lot of smokers are addicted and would also love to be non smokers and tried to quit many many times.

Smoking in any confined area is stupid and all smokers know this too,but being given permission to smoke in an area is like being given the nod that smoking cant be all that bad because otherwise it would not be allowed here.

With the changes in smoking laws over the recent years smokers are slowly getting used to not smoking in front of non smokers in case they offend them,I remember smoking on airoplanes,kids now days wouldnt believe that you could smoke in planes,and cinemas.

I agree that smokers should only smoke in special set out smoking areas,and so do many other smokers.

Please spare a thought for smokers,already alienated and made to feel second class wherever they go,and we will be more conscious of the ill effects smoking has on all.

Lobby your MP to have smoking made illegal in Australia,I would march on any rally for that,the goverment is to blame for smoking not praised for banning it in certain situations.

 

Den.

 

I understand your stance Den, as I have given up just over a year ago. Our cabin was fresh, so wouldn't know if the previous passenger smoked or not. However, a few times during the cruise, we could smell smoke from another cabin wafting in through the air conditioning, and was uncomfortable to our daughter. A couple of butts were tossed from above into our balcony, which was just irresponsible. I guess their flick technique needs some work.

Most smokers onboard were discrete and in the proper location when smoking, but if adjoining cabins & balconies can not contain their own smoke, it imposes on those around them. Even so, it could be practical to have an area of designated smoking cabins.

In the end I am sure like other laws, the changes are not for passenger comfort, but for duty of care of the crew. It is not P&O, but the law that allows the crew to have the ability to sue their employer. Their policy, similar to the one my employer has, is to cover ones rear from claims like that.

 

I don't have a stance either way, I am all for individual rights and individual responsibility. Just saying why I think they have gone down this path.

Where I work, smokers are only allowed to go to the respective area during their official breaks (twice per day) and while their equipment is operating. If it is 40 deg, or blowing a gale, or torrential rain - bad luck. This was driven by NSW law late last year and my employer is famous for covering it's rear.

 

Cheers

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Ok ok I am really blaming non smokers for my inability to quit:mad:

I will make a conscious effort to give up smoking while on the cruise and promise I wont make my cabin stink for the next cruier who gets my cabin on the Dawn.I will also not smoke anywhere near the icecream stand or in the Dome.

 

Den.

Right here with you! But I am gonna say that snuff referred to from your previous post.....is an ugly ugly sight to see, not only the spitting but the oral result is horrendous. Now we just may have a discussion if you think that you will be budging in line for the ice cream stand! Maybe I will make a better effort to quit also but we shall see!

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This was driven by NSW law late last year and my employer is famous for covering it's rear.

 

Across the miles, do we have the same employer?:D

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Right here with you! But I am gonna say that snuff referred to from your previous post.....is an ugly ugly sight to see, not only the spitting but the oral result is horrendous. Now we just may have a discussion if you think that you will be budging in line for the ice cream stand! Maybe I will make a better effort to quit also but we shall see!

 

In a previous post some cruisers complained about the smoking area being next to the ice cream stand on the Pacific Dawn which I think should be taken up with P&O not the smoker,mind you not many people i their right mind would feel comfortable smoking next to a Que of kids getting ice cream anyway.

 

Den

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In a previous post some cruisers complained about the smoking area being next to the ice cream stand on the Pacific Dawn which I think should be taken up with P&O not the smoker,mind you not many people i their right mind would feel comfortable smoking next to a Que of kids getting ice cream anyway.

 

Den

Exactly.. again compromise and respect, or... just common sense!

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This was driven by NSW law late last year and my employer is famous for covering it's rear.

 

Across the miles, do we have the same employer?:D

Probably not, but I'm sure our lawyers speak the same language! :D

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