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With Untied Airline announcing the extra change of $25 for the second bag, what is your strategy.

 

Just as the fuel surcharge, I'm sure this will expand across the airline industry. We're trying to only take a check bag apiece and maximize the carry on in order to take advantage of the self assist debark. Not sure the DW can thin out her bag.

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Spirit has been charging for ANY checked luggage for at least a year now. Any piece of luggage you check is $10 each way.

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I will just tick off United as an option to fly with. We have a lot of choice from YYZ or BUF so we are o.k for now.

 

I wonder what other ways can be thought of to take another dollar, I know they'll come up with some.

 

Used to be that getting to the destination was part of the fun, it's turned into a hastle to be endured, a means to an end.

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Spirit has been charging for ANY checked luggage for at least a year now. Any piece of luggage you check is $10 each way.

 

Don't mind this when paying a very low amount for the airfare (I have heard Spirit sometimes offers $10 fares) I do mind when it's not a budget airline.

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I read this after I posted. But the question remains, if this becomes the rule across the board, how will it effect your next cruise.

 

I've travelled on our past 5 cruises with my DW and two DD. The number of bags is not a pretty site. I think they take at least one back for beauty products and equipment. I think they would love to have a couple of steamer trunks.

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I generally have to pack a good amount of stuff for our group cruises... last cruise I mailed a huge box down, and I'll likely start mailing more and more down. I also take 3 suitcases and my laptop case, so it will be time for me to start reducing as much as I can. Otherwise, I would just pay it... or hope that the other airlines do the same as United and waive the fee for it's platinum members... and then just fly those lines. I understand the need to do this, but I already pay the "overweight" fee :p and now this... oh well, such is life.

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Another reason I am so happy we moved to Florida 4 years ago!!! So many ports and ships.... no flying. Cindy

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I don't take more than one suitcase. I learned a long time ago how to pack and save space. I never take more luggage than I can handle all by myself and one bag is about it.

 

Judy in Michigan

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With Untied Airline announcing the extra change of $25 for the second bag, what is your strategy.......

Book American Airlines. ;)

 

Gives me another reason to avoid United. :rolleyes:

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As an airline employee, I learned long ago to pack lightly and carry-on if possible. Unless UA can make this work, don't expect other airlines to follow suit. Spirit on the other hand, like other budget airlines make there money in an ala carte method and charge for all the extras including baggage.

 

Gecko7:)

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I don't take more than one suitcase. I learned a long time ago how to pack and save space. I never take more luggage than I can handle all by myself and one bag is about it.

 

Judy in Michigan

 

Unfortunately, if I have to fly United (or any other carrier who implements this in the future) on personal travel, I'll have to either pack everything into a single larger suitcase instead of two smaller ones as I currently do. Personally, I have more trouble handling the one larger size than two smaller ones. Otherwise, I'll just have to cough up the extra fee.

 

When I fly for business, I won't change anything and will just charge the extra fee to my expense report.

 

I seldom fly United unless for business travel (I think they have our major corporate airline contract). However, I expect the others to follow suit soon so will have to deal with it.

 

The other concern I have about this is that it will unfortunately encourage more people to carry-on more. Carry-on and the delays caused by people struggling with the it and trying to stuff everything in the overhead bins (heaven forbid they try to use the under seat storage for anything). I wish they had instead implemented a surcharge for carry-ons.

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Most of the "major carriers" in the US are in deep financial doodoo. A large part of the reason is because they are inherently inefficient in their business processes and have been getting undercut by the more efficient carriers [like Southwest] for years ... and United, American, et al have been compounding their idiot financial problems by locking up as much of the hangar space and terminal gates at major airports so that the efficient young upstarts can't get them.

 

Rather than becoming efficient, they throw good money after bad.

 

And they're trying to get the bad money back by picking your pockets for it.

 

The smart move is to not use those carriers who start this. Every carrier [including the efficient young upstarts like Southwest] will eventually use it themselves, but if United starts it, take them out of the picture. There's a reason SWA is expanding its routes when UA and AA are cutting back.

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The reality is that SWA is also reducing service in many unprofittable locations too.

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I just don't see what the huge deal is here.....it's only $25.00. :confused:

 

I usually pack one suitcase and one carry on, but if I did have 2, well, I'd just pay up. I go for the lowest airfare....and another $25.00, if need be, isn't going to break the bank.

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Most of the "major carriers" in the US are in deep financial doodoo. A large part of the reason is because they are inherently inefficient in their business processes and have been getting undercut by the more efficient carriers [like Southwest] for years ... and United, American, et al have been compounding their idiot financial problems by locking up as much of the hangar space and terminal gates at major airports so that the efficient young upstarts can't get them.

 

Rather than becoming efficient, they throw good money after bad.

 

And they're trying to get the bad money back by picking your pockets for it.

 

The smart move is to not use those carriers who start this. Every carrier [including the efficient young upstarts like Southwest] will eventually use it themselves, but if United starts it, take them out of the picture. There's a reason SWA is expanding its routes when UA and AA are cutting back.

 

Actually, Southwest started this by reducing the number of checked bags a couple of weeks ago... SWA is still one of my preferred airlines, however, these days I can usually fly another carrier cheaper... so gone are the good old SWA days.

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I just don't see what the huge deal is here.....it's only $25.00. :confused:

 

I usually pack one suitcase and one carry on, but if I did have 2, well, I'd just pay up. I go for the lowest airfare....and another $25.00, if need be, isn't going to break the bank.

 

In reality it just increases the already high fares by $50... which isn't a huge deal, and wouldn't be a big deal at all if airfare was at all reasonable right now. But the gas crisis is causing everyone to spend more, and the airlines are at the top of that list... I understand paying more, and hopefully limiting the bags will keep the fares from going up too much higher.

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If United is an option I will just add in an extra $25 before making my decision. It's just that $25 seems steep.

 

And remember, unless you are only flying 1 way, it's $50... You'll have to pay the $25 each time you check luggage...

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Wow - I didn't think about that. I have a feeling I won't be flying United.

 

When we went on our Alaska cruise last year I also mailed a box to the hotel prior to our arrival. I put item in there that I didn't expect to return with (ponchos, insect repelent, etc.). It worked out great. I even sent the souveniurs(sp) home that we bought in Anchorage so that I wouldn't have to worry about luggage space or paying overages.

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The reality is that SWA is also reducing service in many unprofittable locations too.

 

Would you expect them not to?

 

UA and Delta and NWA and AA are reducing flights all over the place, even in areas where SWA is increasing. Such as StL.

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Unfortunately, if I have to fly United (or any other carrier who implements this in the future) on personal travel, I'll have to either pack everything into a single larger suitcase instead of two smaller ones as I currently do. Personally, I have more trouble handling the one larger size than two smaller ones. Otherwise, I'll just have to cough up the extra fee.

 

When I fly for business, I won't change anything and will just charge the extra fee to my expense report.

 

I seldom fly United unless for business travel (I think they have our major corporate airline contract). However, I expect the others to follow suit soon so will have to deal with it.

 

The other concern I have about this is that it will unfortunately encourage more people to carry-on more. Carry-on and the delays caused by people struggling with the it and trying to stuff everything in the overhead bins (heaven forbid they try to use the under seat storage for anything). I wish they had instead implemented a surcharge for carry-ons.

 

 

Surcharge for carry-ons? What a great idea! Thank You.

 

UAL

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It might just seem that 25 dollars is no big deal but for those of us who live in areas of the United States that do not have a lot of airline competiton our airfare alone is staggering. So now not only are we expecting to pay around 600.00 per ticket for our next flight to Florida but with the addition of an extra 25 dollars just makes me kind of upset.

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Don't blame you, girls. Nickle-diming is a hallowed American business practice, but it gets under your skin. In your wallet. Whatever.

 

 

My wife makes our plane reservations, and the last she heard from SWA is that still only charge if your bag > 50#. She hasn't heard anything new.

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Don't blame you, girls. Nickle-diming is a hallowed American business practice, but it gets under your skin. In your wallet. Whatever.

 

 

My wife makes our plane reservations, and the last she heard from SWA is that still only charge if your bag > 50#. She hasn't heard anything new.

 

Here is the new policy...

 

http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/baggage.html

 

Baggage Allowance: Beginning January 29, 2008, Southwest will allow two (2) checked pieces of baggage per ticketed Customer. Size and weight limitations apply.

 

Excess Baggage: Effective January 29, 2008, you may check a third bag for a charge of $25. Your 4th through 9th bag or item will incur a charge of $50 per piece, and any bag or item thereafter will be $110 per piece.

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Here is the new policy...

 

http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/baggage.html

 

Baggage Allowance: Beginning January 29, 2008, Southwest will allow two (2) checked pieces of baggage per ticketed Customer. Size and weight limitations apply.

 

Excess Baggage: Effective January 29, 2008, you may check a third bag for a charge of $25. Your 4th through 9th bag or item will incur a charge of $50 per piece, and any bag or item thereafter will be $110 per piece.

 

SW also gets a little cranky on the size of the bag. My DW has a large bag that she travels with and the SW agent actually measured the dimensions with a tape. I did not realize that the HxWxL has to be less than something like 62 inches total (I think thats correct). She made it by less than an inch.

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Most of the "major carriers" in the US are in deep financial doodoo. A large part of the reason is because they are inherently inefficient in their business processes and have been getting undercut by the more efficient carriers [like Southwest] for years ... and United, American, et al have been compounding their idiot financial problems by locking up as much of the hangar space and terminal gates at major airports so that the efficient young upstarts can't get them.

 

Rather than becoming efficient, they throw good money after bad.

As we all know, all airlines are suffering from the cost of oil. Those young upstarts have an advantage over the established airlines due mainly to the fact their employee age average is much younger.

 

This means their wages are less and they do not have the large retirement plan obligations the older airlines have. The retirement expenses were one of the major things weighting down United in bankruptcy. Unfortunately... it was a place United could cut... whereas oil prices wasn't.

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I read this after I posted. But the question remains, if this becomes the rule across the board, how will it effect your next cruise.

 

It will affect my next cruise by costing $25 more per checked bag if I choose to fly United. I guess I don't understand the question - do you think people will actually pack less or fly a different airline just to save $25?

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Given the sheer amount of lost luggage and just having completed the 2nd worst year in history for performance and service the airlines have a lot of nerve. In terms of a cruise I guess the bag surcharge may result in more tuxes, suit, and gowns being left at home.

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It will affect my next cruise by costing $25 more per checked bag if I choose to fly United. I guess I don't understand the question - do you think people will actually pack less or fly a different airline just to save $25?
The way I'm reading it you would have to pay the $25 for each way - making it $50. No chump change for some. Personally I could afford it but yes I would pack less or choose a different line. But that's me.

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It will affect my next cruise by costing $25 more per checked bag if I choose to fly United. I guess I don't understand the question - do you think people will actually pack less or fly a different airline just to save $25?

Probably both..... and the third option is to pay the freight... dealer's choice.

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I cant remember the last time I flew on United but I can tell you for certain that this new policy is not going to make me start flying United in the future.

 

A lot of people say that "pay as you go" is a fair and wise business plan because they do not have to pay for something they are not using. They pay less for airfare and since they only have one bag, so what if others have to pay for that extra bag.

 

But what if airlines take this idea to the extreme? How about pay toilets on airplanes. Certainly it costs money to have bathrooms on planes, why should I pay the same money for airfare as you do if I dont use the bathroom as much as you? Pay as you go (no pun intended) toilet paper dispensers, now that is an idea worth looking in to.

 

And how about those reading lights, certainly electricity costs money. Why should I be paying extra so you can have free reading lights? Air vents too.

 

And Flight Attendants. Shouldnt I get some sort of price break if I just sit there and keep my mouth shut and not have to pay the same as someone who bothers the flight attendants with silly questions/requests?

 

Maybe I have been looking at this all wrong. If the airlines start charging extra for everthing than my airfare should get really low....either that or the airlines corporate executives salaries and bonuses will get really high. Which do you think would happen?

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This charge is solely about saving fuel... other airlines are doing it too (anyone notice the price of fuel the last year or so???) :p. The more luggage that is stowed, the more fuel the plane uses... very simple way to reduce that, reduce the amount of luggage or be compensated for the extra.

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Here is the new policy...

Well, there ya go, then.

 

 

Those young upstarts have an advantage over the established airlines due mainly to the fact their employee age average is much younger.

I'm not sure of AmericaWest or whatever it's called, but SWA has it's biggest expense savings in maintenance. SWA uses only the one model in their fleet -- 737 I recall. Only one model to train their mechanics on; only one model to buy and store parts for; etc.

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This charge is solely about saving fuel... other airlines are doing it too (anyone notice the price of fuel the last year or so???) :p. The more luggage that is stowed, the more fuel the plane uses... very simple way to reduce that, reduce the amount of luggage or be compensated for the extra.

American Airlines did a study some time ago and from that made the following changes.

  • They calculated the cost of the magazines and papers they were carrying and determined they could reduce the number of them.
  • They looked at the comsumption of coffee and water and determined they could cut back those too because very seldom did they use more that a portion of what they were carrying.
  • The looked at the amount of fuel the planes were carrying and found most of the planes were landing with excess fuel that was not needed and they were paying to haul cost country and around the world. So now the planes only load the amount of fuel the trip will require (with a safety margin of course).

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