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Hi:

It all depends- we have stayed in the Villas and saw people asked to leave as they were in non-villa cabins but had relatives staying in Villas. ( I would have preferred that they asked the Garden Villa guests to leave, but they were a motley, obnoxious gang that ate cookies in the pool and screamed constantly.... but that is another story!)If the ship isn't full, it might not be a problem, but those paying the extra bucks for the Villas might not appreciate having others there, as the space is limited and the food is, too.:)

Last I heard, NCL "officially" didn't allow it, but rules are often bent!

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Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having an exclusive area?

If everyone who had access to the area brought guests, then why pay thousands extra for the private, quiet space that would be overrun?

Paying several thousands of dollars vs. several hundreds of dollars for the same cruise should absolutely realize additional benefits and perks...that's the reason you pay such a large premium.

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[quote name='cruise vs work/']If my wife and I get a courtyard villa is allright to have my kids in the court yard if they have a inside cabin?[/quote]


Hi!

I just spoke to NCL to pay for my cruise and the vacation specialist told me that it shouldn't be a problem for your family to join you, you just have to be there when they are.

Have fun!:D

Kathy

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[quote name='cruise vs work/']If my wife and I get a courtyard villa is allright to have my kids in the court yard if they have a inside cabin?[/QUOTE]

The Courtyard is for registered guest of A1, A2, A3, A4 and AA guest only. Guest are welcome in your cabin but not in the common area.

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[quote name='Kathylovescruises']Hi!

I just spoke to NCL to pay for my cruise and the vacation specialist told me that it shouldn't be a problem for your family to join you, you just have to be there when they are.

Have fun!:D

Kathy[/quote]

[COLOR=black]I believe the concierge onboard might provide a very different answer. As a rule [U]only[/U] those in the coutyard villas, garden villas, and owners suites have access to the courtyard area and private sundeck. You are welcome to have guests in your villa.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]As pointed out if everyone booked in the villas invited guests the area would be a zoo. In fact it can get crowded when many of those permitted are in the courtyard at the same time. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]Having cruised in a CV on the Jade I can tell you it most likely would not be a problem to walk a guest through for a quick tour but having them spend time there everyday is not permited. All it takes is one guest who complains and as I saw on the Jade the concierge will come speak to those that had "guests" in the courtyard. [/COLOR]
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That's what happened last time that we were in the CV. Someone complained and out the guests went !
Also, We had an obnoxious guest at priority check in who gave the concierge a tip ( right there in front of us!)and then demanded his whole family, ( 3 non-concierge cabins and his cabin) get advance reservations for the resaturants at check in. I did raise a bit of a fuss when he booked 15 seats at Cagney's for the time we also wanted, then it was full. Needless to say, that particular CV Concierge received a very small gratuity.

I don't know why the reservation agent told me what she did, but after thinking about it, I do remember how annoying it was to have that pompous jerk making demands- before we got on the ship!:mad:

Looking forward to my next CV in 111 days!

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[quote name='Kathylovescruises']That's what happened last time that we were in the CV. Someone complained and out the guests went !
Also, We had an obnoxious guest at priority check in who gave the concierge a tip ( right there in front of us!)and then demanded his whole family, ( 3 non-concierge cabins and his cabin) get advance reservations for the resaturants at check in. I did raise a bit of a fuss when he booked 15 seats at Cagney's for the time we also wanted, then it was full. Needless to say, that particular CV Concierge received a very small gratuity.

I don't know why the reservation agent told me what she did, but after thinking about it, I do remember how annoying it was to have that pompous jerk making demands- before we got on the ship!:mad:

Looking forward to my next CV in 111 days![/quote]

[COLOR=black]I guess you would not have liked the Cruise Critic members that I met in the Courtyard who pointed me to this site. They had booked dinners for 20+ in advance most of which were not in concierge level rooms.;) In fact they were a pretty nice group and that is why I am here. [/COLOR]

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[quote name='time2cruise1'][COLOR=black]I believe the concierge onboard might provide a very different answer. As a rule [U]only[/U] those in the coutyard villas, garden villas, and owners suites have access to the courtyard area and private sundeck. You are welcome to have guests in your villa.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]As pointed out if everyone booked in the villas invited guests the area would be a zoo. In fact it can get crowded when many of those permitted are in the courtyard at the same time. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Having cruised in a CV on the Jade I can tell you it most likely would not be a problem to walk a guest through for a quick tour but having them spend time there everyday is not permited. All it takes is one guest who complains and as I saw on the Jade the concierge will come speak to those that had "guests" in the courtyard. [/COLOR]
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The families of CV guests may join the CV guest in their cabin for a gathering but the Courtyard area is private. I wouldn't dream of asking if I could use the Garden Villa private areas. ;)

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oh boy....I saw this question create a huge ugly scene a little while back.

Here is a breakdown from memory:

Those who could afford a CV felt strongly that those who can't (or won't) afford it have no right to be in the courtyard.



Personally, I don't care where anyone is as long as they are not on my lap.

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IMO you are entitled to ONLY what you pay for. I wouldn't pay for a mezzanine seat for show and expect to sit for awhile in an orchestra seat. Likewise I wouldn't expect to take advantage of private areas/services onboard a cruise ship that others paid THOUSANDS of dollars for when I didn't. It wouldn't matter how full or empty those private areas were, you have to pay to play.

BTW, we are NOT suite guests.

Happy Cruising! :)

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In the past, we have had an AA with an AF for my daughters, and later an AA with adjoining AC and BC cabins for my daughters and a friend each. On neither occasion were they permitted to use the courtyard with us. Both times were on full ships, if that makes a difference. In fact, we were looking at booking an AA and adjoining AC for them for an upcoming cruise, and then had decided that, strictly for courtyard use, we were going to double book them - both with us (as pax 3 and 4) in an A3, plus as pax 1 and 2 in an additional cabin on another deck where they would actually sleep and shower. The logistics were a bit difficult, but NCL assured me that they could make it happen if we needed to. In the end it didn't matter, we decided not to book the trip anyway. We truly enjoy the AA, and actually the courtyard is not that special to us, so we would still choose the AA over courtyard use for most sailings - but this was a winter Europe cruise, and we thought the courtyard would be nice to have for that particular two week sailing.

Robin

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[quote name='orangeh3']The families of CV guests may join the CV guest in their cabin for a gathering but the Courtyard area is private. I wouldn't dream of asking if I could use the Garden Villa private areas. ;)[/quote]

[COLOR="Black"]Well in fact if you book the GV you can have anyone from the ship in those private areas. The issue here is the [U]shared [/U]area for courtyard guests[/COLOR]

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[quote name='time2cruise1'][COLOR=black]Well in fact if you book the GV you can have anyone from the ship in those private areas. The issue here is the [U]shared [/U]area for courtyard guests[/COLOR][/quote]

Point taken. :) I was along a different line. ;)

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Needless to say I am not interested in ever booking a CV again as many times the courtyard got as crowded as the main deck pools.
One family ruined it for everyone as they had a CV and the other 50 people in their family were staying in inside cabins elsewhere.
Since that cruise, we have discovered the aft penthouse cabins and have fallen in love with them.
As long as I have my butler and my Cagney's breakfasts and lunches - you can keep the private courtyard and the cookies.

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[quote name='cruise vs work/']Thank you everyone for you replies and not beating me up to bad:)[/quote]

[COLOR=black]You are lucky. It is not many that seem to get out of here without a beating. :D :D [/COLOR]

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OP - why not book an A3 (2 bed/2bath) and then your kids will be up there with you?:D DH and I booked an A3 4/07 on the Pearl and it's ample size for 4.

There's limited seating in the CY and it would be quite embarrassing for you and your kids if you brought them up and then wound up having them being asked to leave (if another CV pax complains to the concierge it very well could happen).

To TideOne, I would have been FURIOUS had my CY experience been the same as yours - we paid a tidy sum for our A3 and I probably would have said asked the concierge if ALL those extra people were really booked in the CV's and by the way, can you get a steward to bring up a lounger for me to lay on since there's no seats? You can bet that the concierge would be checking out the situation and resolving it very quickly.

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It is too bad that a few people ruin it for others. On a cruise we were on, we did "visit" the courtyard twice with residents of that level. There was nobody around. Though we only stayed for about 5-10 minutes, it would not have been a bother to anyone if we stayed and visited with our friends for awhile. We would not have "bothered" anyone that had spent thousands of extra dollars for their space.

But, others abuse it and make it difficult for the rest. As to that large group, somebody should have taken action.

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We visited friends in a CV. Had lunch in their suite but they explained they would give us a "quick tour" but the pool and lounge area was for CV guests only. We totally understood. It was nice to see it though. When we went out there no one was out there... but that was not the point. I respected my friends for their diligence. It is NOT that large of an area and if some people try to gain access by booking one part of a large group then that is a shame and a disservice to all of the other Villa pax.

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[quote name='garycarla']It is too bad that a few people ruin it for others. On a cruise we were on, we did "visit" the courtyard twice with residents of that level. There was nobody around. Though we only stayed for about 5-10 minutes, it would not have been a bother to anyone if we stayed and visited with our friends for awhile.[B] We would not have "bothered" anyone that had spent thousands of extra dollars for their space.[/B]

[B]But, others abuse it and make it difficult for the rest.[/B] As to that large group, somebody should have taken action.[/quote]

It's not the point that YOU don't think you would bother anyone. The point is you didn't pay for this perk and others did.

I recall reading another post from a closed thread. The poster wrote:
[IMG]http://boards.cruisecritic.com/images/icons/icon1.gif[/IMG]
[COLOR=red]"It is freestyle, and if some people have no class, manners or simple civility, that is their choice.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]Freestyle means I can dress like a hick if I want and have no regard for anyone around me or what they think.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]And, it means I think my sweats with the holes in them are comfortable and I am on vacation, so the heck with all of you!"[/COLOR]

[COLOR=blue]Of course I disagree with that quote as most of us would. I rest my case.[/COLOR]

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[quote name='watchdiva']OP - why not book an A3 (2 bed/2bath) and then your kids will be up there with you?:D DH and I booked an A3 4/07 on the Pearl and it's ample size for 4.

There's limited seating in the CY and it would be quite embarrassing for you and your kids if you brought them up and then wound up having them being asked to leave (if another CV pax complains to the concierge it very well could happen).

To TideOne, I would have been FURIOUS had my CY experience been the same as yours - we paid a tidy sum for our A3 and I probably would have said asked the concierge if ALL those extra people were really booked in the CV's and by the way, can you get a steward to bring up a lounger for me to lay on since there's no seats? You can bet that the concierge would be checking out the situation and resolving it very quickly.[/quote]

Six kids:) , three inside cabins

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This is news to me, and I'm booked in a CV (A3) on Jade next May. I simply assumed that the Courtyard was available to me AND any guest/guests I may choose to bring on a REASONABLE basis. I don't recall seeing anything saying that I could NOT have a guest in the Courtyard so, again, this comes as a surprise to me.

While I can see both sides of the coin here (particularly if some people have abused use of the Courtyard to the detriment of those who they share it with), I'm still annoyed. I see no reason why I should not be allowed to bring a guest (or even 2) if the Courtyard is not being used, or being used but nowhere close to it's capacity. I don't see this as being a "You didn't pay for it so you can't use it" issue, I see it as being one of the benefits that come with my CV - but then being told I can't really use it, unless I want to sit quietly alone or some such thing.

Imagine if you booked a balcony cabin and invited a guest or two to join you for cocktails on your balcony, only to have some NCL "hall monitor" tell you "Sorry, while the balcony is indeed for YOUR enjoyment, your inside-cabin friend has to stay OFF the balcony.....". Ugh. :mad:

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[quote name='Boat_Drinks']This is news to me, and I'm booked in a CV (A3) on Jade next May. I simply assumed that the Courtyard was available to me AND any guest/guests I may choose to bring on a REASONABLE basis. I don't recall seeing anything saying that I could NOT have a guest in the Courtyard so, again, this comes as a surprise to me.

While I can see both sides of the coin here (particularly if some people have abused use of the Courtyard to the detriment of those who they share it with), I'm still annoyed. I see no reason why I should not be allowed to bring a guest (or even 2) if the Courtyard is not being used, or being used but nowhere close to it's capacity. I don't see this as being a "You didn't pay for it so you can't use it" issue, I see it as being one of the benefits that come with my CV - but then being told I can't really use it, unless I want to sit quietly alone or some such thing.

[B]Imagine if you booked a balcony cabin and invited a guest or two to join you for cocktails on your balcony, only to have some NCL "hall monitor" tell you "Sorry, while the balcony is indeed for YOUR enjoyment, your inside-cabin friend has to stay OFF the balcony.....".[/B] Ugh. :mad:[/quote]

The difference is, your private balcony is just that, private for your use or whomever you wish to share it with. The courtyard is the private area to be shared among suite level guests only.

No one will say you're not permitted to invite guests to your cabin, just not to the courtyard, which is the common area for people who paid for the perk.

Enjoy your cruise! :)

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[quote name='AFAMILY'] No one will say you're not permitted to invite guests to your cabin, just not to the courtyard, which is the common area for people who paid for the perk.[/quote]

That's where the difference of opinion comes in, I paid for the perk - but I can only enjoy it with the specific passengers who are also in CV's.

Again, I understand the issue and the problem of "fair use" for those who paid for the perk (myself included). But I'd like to be able to sit in the courtyard with a guest of MINE (certainly not an unescorted guest, and certainly not if the courtyard is too busy).

It'll be interesting to see how much use I actually make of the courtyard now. I guess I could have my guests stand on my balcony while I sit in the courtyard and we could shout back and forth to one another......... :D

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Boat Drinks you might find it a little hard to yell to your guests if you are in the courtyard and they are on your balcony.
There is a glass wall, a hallway and your cabin seperating you from the courtyard and your balcony.
Personally I would not have had a problem with anyone bringing a couple of their friends to the courtyard and even having dinner in the courtyard.
Our problem was the massive amount of family members that seemed to think the courtyard belonged to them.
Trust me, things were said to the butler, the conceirge and others but nothing was ever resolved.
But I am glad it happened because I never would have discovered my aft penthouse suites. So much more room on my own private balcony that I don't have to share with anyone.

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[quote name='Boat_Drinks']That's where the difference of opinion comes in, I paid for the perk - but I can only enjoy it with the specific passengers who are also in CV's.

Again, I understand the issue and the problem of "fair use" for those who paid for the perk (myself included). But I'd like to be able to sit in the courtyard with a guest of MINE (certainly not an unescorted guest, and certainly not if the courtyard is too busy).

It'll be interesting to see how much use I actually make of the courtyard now. I guess I could have my guests stand on my balcony while I sit in the courtyard and we could shout back and forth to one another......... :D[/quote]

I think you're problem may lie with the concierge following/enforcing the rules and any other CV guest who might take issue with ANY non CV guest utilizing the courtyard.

Regardless, enjoy your cruise! :)

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[quote name='Boat_Drinks']This is news to me, and I'm booked in a CV (A3) on Jade next May. I simply assumed that the Courtyard was available to me AND any guest/guests I may choose to bring on a REASONABLE basis. I don't recall seeing anything saying that I could NOT have a guest in the Courtyard so, again, this comes as a surprise to me. Ugh. :mad:[/quote]

I kind of understand your frustration, but keep in mind even though you have found nothing in writing telling you guests are not allowed, NCL makes it pretty obvious that non-suite guests are not expected in the courtyard area.

You must use your room key in the elevator to get to the courtyard floor and after exiting the elevator, your room key is needed again to go from the elevator lobby to the courtyard/rooms.

We have had guest in the courtyard area most of which were in other suites anyway so it was no big deal, BUT if it was crowded or my guest(s) were making things unpleasant for others I would expect them to be kicked out.

My experience in this area really has lead me to believe most people are in this area to have some peace and quiet - 1 couple I know only left the area 3-4 times for the whole cruise.

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From NCL's website:
[COLOR=black]"You’ve never seen anything quite like this before. Like an island within the Courtyard Villa complex, you'll find a secluded area outfitted with a private swimming pool, hot tub, covered Balinese-style lounge areas providing lots of shade, oversized comfortable chaise lounges, as well as a fitness area with steam room. Sink into complete relaxation and enjoyment with personal service from your butler – all you have to do is ask. There's even a retractable sunroof for year round comfort and a separate oceanview deck upstairs for more sun tanning pleasure. Best of all? [U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]."[/COLOR]

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[quote name='brunolvr']From NCL's website:
[COLOR=black]Best of all? [U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]."[/COLOR][/quote]

Well that clears that up...

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[quote name='Tideone']Our problem was the massive amount of family members that seemed to think the courtyard belonged to them.
Trust me, things were said to the butler, the conceirge and others but nothing was ever resolved.[/QUOTE]

I am so suprised that this happened to you. I have seen Ruth, Claudio and Alex all diplomatically remove pax from the C/Y.

If the conceirge would not have done it I would have gone to the Hotel Manager. The common C/Y area is pretty much all that differentiates A3 from AB. The cost between the two are usually substantial.

I am glad you like the AD's though.

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[quote name='brunolvr'] [COLOR=black][U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]."[/COLOR][/quote]

Yes, exactly - and that would be me and whomever I choose to have accompany me.

Thanks again for starting this thread, I never would have interpreted the above statment to mean I can't have a guest accompany me in the Courtyard. Now at least I've been warned.......

Hmmmm, my A3 accomodates 4 people, but there are only 3 in my party. Maybe we can get a 4th "key" made up under the name "Invited Guest" :D

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What part of [COLOR=black][U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]." don't you understand, Boatdrinks??? Geez...:rolleyes: [/COLOR]

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I think you will be fine in My having guests over.

I was on the 14th floor in April and June. Both times almost nobocy used the courtyard and no one used the 15th floor sundeck. The courtyard butler laughed when I asked if it was okay to invite some family to lunch. They were desparate for some company.

As dar as the keys I had another made for my mother in law no questions asked. I told them she had to come up to babysit. Not that anyone cared.

I think it depends how much activity is up there, how well everyone behaves and please at the end, remember to tip!

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[quote name='welove2cruise232']What part of [COLOR=black][U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]." don't you understand, Boatdrinks??? Geez...:rolleyes: [/COLOR][/quote]

I'm going to ASSume you were posting this rude post at the same time I was responding above, and ignore it.

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[quote name='Boat_Drinks']I'm going to ASSume you were posting this rude post at the same time I was responding above, and ignore it.[/quote]

My goodness, do you always get so PRICKly when people point out the rules to you that you so obviously choose to ignore?:rolleyes:

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It never ceases to amaze me how and why some people find it impossible to just accept the rules as stated and follow them. Instead, these people are either always looking for ways around them or just outright think the rules don't apply to them and disregard them entirely.

If the rules are "[COLOR=black][U]This secluded area is completely private and [B]available only to those who stay[/B] in our Garden Villas, Courtyard Villas, Deluxe Owner's and Owner’s Suites[/U]." [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]then that's the rule.[/COLOR]

Why make other people, whether paying CV passengers, wrongfully invited guests, or, crewmembers feel awkward by pushing the issue? Why cause a problem? If you're a CV passenger, you can:

1) Invite whoever you want to your cabin ONLY, whenever you want
2) Use and enjoy the courtyard along with other CV passengers ONLY
3) Join your friends and/or family, who are NOT CV passengers, in totally public areas of the ship.

Those are the rules. That's what's fair.

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[quote name='welove2cruise232']My goodness, do you always get so PRICKly when people point out the rules to you that you so obviously choose to ignore?:rolleyes:[/quote]

Oh, so your rudeness was intentional, my mistake - I assumed we crossed posts.

You can try to "spin" this that I'm trying to "ignore a rule", but it's a waste of time. I've already pointed out that I never would interpret the text above to prohibit authorized users of the Courtyard from having a guest with them.

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We were in an OS in March and traveling with friends in mini suites.
WE were entitled to the Courtyard, they were not.
WE never, EVER used the courtyard, because they were more
important to us then the "private courtyard". We would never
have expected the rules to be bent or to make the assumption
that because we are older and quiet, it would be OK.
For people to be subjective, as to what is busy, or what is noisy
is crazy. If you don't pay you don't play...simple as that.

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[quote name='cruise vs work/']Six kids:) , three inside cabins[/quote]

You have 8 (or more) people of whom 75% (or so) haven't paid for privileges, but you want to know whether you can all enjoy them. I think your ironic smily face above says it all. You shouldn't, doing so isn't right, but you might be able to, depending on staff. Feeling all virtuous now?

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