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Boycott the Nickel And Dime...


Mystere

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It's been 10 years since I was last on a cruise, and now i'm going on a T/A on the IOS in April. I'm kind of shocked that the concept of "All Inclusive" has been slowly being whittled away. Yes, you always had to pay extra for booze, but now we have to pay extra for various specialty restaurants and other "Treats" (Ben and Jerry's, etc..)

 

My wife and I are of the opinion that we need to vote with our wallets. Boycott the Nickel and Diming the cruise ships do to us. Yes, it may affect our enjoyment of the cruise, but if enough people think the same then perhaps they will reconsider the "All Inclusive" nature.

 

I'm seeing this as a progression, and like the airlines, it won't be long before *ALL* food is a la cart, all in the name of "cost savings".

 

Anyone else feel similar?

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10 years ago when you went on that last cruise, there was NO Ben & Jerry's, there were no specialty restaurants. Look at how much you paid for that cruise 10 years ago and how much you paid this year, pretty similar. Everything else has gone up considerably, bread, gas, clothes, cars, etc., but cruises are about the same price.

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Well I guess it has been a long time for you but things have changed. You can do very well on a cruise and never pay an additional charge for anything other than the tips if that's what you want to do. You will have a fine time. For the past at least 8 years, maybe more, cruise ships have added the specialty restaurants for upscale dining experiences for those who choose to do that. We have done it and always do. We have done it on HAL, Carnival, and RCI. All of them were great. We eat at least 2 or 3 times during a cruise at each of these restaurants and enjoy them very much. Don't mind paying the extra for the experience. I urge you to try Chops. That's really the only extra thing we do, other than the cocktails and wine;). As far as Ben and Jerry's or Johnny Rockets, it is what it is. If you have to have ice cream or a burger and can't wait till dinner or lunch, then it's there for you. Just a little extra perk if you want it. Relax and ENJOY your first cruise in 10 years !!!

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I don''t think a full-scale boycott is necessary or advisable and I certainly wouldn't suggest doing anything that will negatively effect anyone's enjoyment of their cruise as you seem to recommend. No one requires you to dine in the specialty restaurants and there are alternative, free sources of ice cream etc. But realistically, we can't have bargain cruise fares that are significantly lower than we were paying years ago and expect that the lines won't try to make up the difference through onboard spending. As long as we continue to demand low fares we have to expect the cruise lines to explore new revenue sources. Under the current system, while we may chafe at the extra costs, we have much more control over our bottom line of spending than we did when fares were considerably higher and there were fewer alternatives available to us onboard the ship.

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I would imagine if everyone boycotted the "nickel & dime" items that RCI would be forced to raise the cruise fares because they need to generate that revenue somehow. I'd prefer to keep the system the way it is so that we can pay for those special items we want and skip those we don't while keeping fares from going up any more than they already have!

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When I last cruised, there weren't any specialty restaurants. It seems to me like this is a first step in moving to an entirely a la cart model. First you provide "premium" stores at an inflated rate, then you start slowly removing free services and charging lower fees for those.

 

For example, I just read that Room Service now has a service fee.

 

Fountain Soft Drinks were free of charge last time I sailed, and now they cost money, and you have to buy a day pass to get all you can drink.

 

I just see this as an ongoing trend, and the more you say "That's just the way it is", the more they will continue to Nickel and Dime you.

 

These kinds of things never work, of course, that doesn't stop me from voting with my wallet, though.

 

If it were to stay this way, I wouldn't object. I simply see it as an attempt to convert everything to "pay as you go".

 

I don't mind paying more. In fact, I wouldn't mind if there was a "All services" pass you could buy that would give you free access to all the services at whatever cost they deem appropriate, but the pay as you go is just attempts to get more money out of us than we intended to spend.

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I just see this as an ongoing trend, and the more you say "That's just the way it is", the more they will continue to Nickel and Dime you.

 

These kinds of things never work, of course, that doesn't stop me from voting with my wallet, though.

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You are absolutely right. It's a trend that's probably here to stay. You'll just have to do what works for you, but since most lines are doing it, I'm not sure who you'll find to cruise on.

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I would imagine if everyone boycotted the "nickel & dime" items that RCI would be forced to raise the cruise fares because they need to generate that revenue somehow. I'd prefer to keep the system the way it is so that we can pay for those special items we want and skip those we don't while keeping fares from going up any more than they already have!

Ditto!!!

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If you're going to spend the money anyways, why not just include it in the price of the trip? One of the great things about "all inclusives" is that you don't have to decide ahead of time what you want (with some exceptions), you can simply do whatever you want when you want it.

 

Yes, you can pre-pay for certain things, but like many people, I like having the trip paid for ahead of time. I don't care what the price is, i'd like the *OPTION* of having it be "TRUE" all-inclusive. If i'm going to pay one way or the other, i'd rather it be all part of the cost.

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It obviously has been quite some time since you last cruised and most of the new costs that you cite (specialty restaurants, soft drinks, etc.) have been in effect on RCI and most other lines for at least a decade. The charge for room service is, at least for now, limited to the very early morning hours when its effect on the majority of passengers will be either non-existent or minimal. Today's ships even offer more venues for free dining than were available back when. Most RCI ships now offer a concierge or diamond lounge for their suite guests and most loyal passengers with "free" cocktails and hors'd'ouevres every evening. They have cut back or eliminated most of the late night buffets which to the minds of many represented a tremendous waste of food. Try comparing the fares you paid when you cruised those many years ago, with current fares and you will see that today's prices are a real bargain even before you adjust those prices for inflation, and don't forget to compare the ships that are now sailing with the ships that were available when you and I first began cruising. The physical plant, the entertainment venues and just about everything you will find on today's cruise ships are a significant advance over what was available back then. Everyone of us votes with our pocketbook whenever we choose to purchase or pass over the extras that the ship offers, so enjoy all that has been added to the cruise experience and use your own judgment regarding whether or not to pay for any extras. :)

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If you're going to spend the money anyways, why not just include it in the price of the trip? One of the great things about "all inclusives" is that you don't have to decide ahead of time what you want (with some exceptions), you can simply do whatever you want when you want it.

 

Yes, you can pre-pay for certain things, but like many people, I like having the trip paid for ahead of time. I don't care what the price is, i'd like the *OPTION* of having it be "TRUE" all-inclusive. If i'm going to pay one way or the other, i'd rather it be all part of the cost.

 

You might consider Regent, Crystal , Windstar etc which are luxury lines and all-inclusive. Including tips. Our onboard bill at the end of the cruise was about $100! But we paid more for the fares, so overall it cost more than a RC cruise. But if you want to pay it all upfront that's one way to go.

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I completly agree with you. RS charge, $14.95 steaks, cutbacks. I say boycott, cancel with cruise lines that are doing this such as RCI.

 

Room service is free most of the day. It is chargeda minimal service charge in the very early hours of the morning.

I've not seen a $14.95 steak on a menu.

What cutbacks?

No, I won't boycott or cancel. Thanks all the same. I know what I am paying for and it's ok with me.

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If you're going to spend the money anyways, why not just include it in the price of the trip? One of the great things about "all inclusives" is that you don't have to decide ahead of time what you want (with some exceptions), you can simply do whatever you want when you want it.

 

Yes, you can pre-pay for certain things, but like many people, I like having the trip paid for ahead of time. I don't care what the price is, i'd like the *OPTION* of having it be "TRUE" all-inclusive. If i'm going to pay one way or the other, i'd rather it be all part of the cost.

 

You can find cruiselines where you can do just that. However they won't be Royal Caribbean, Princess, Celebrity, Carnival, NCL or any other mainstream cruiseline. Try some of the more upscale lines but be prepared to pay much more for your "all inclusive" cruise than you will pay for one on the mainstream lines even after you add on all of those pricey "extras".

There are as many, or more, people who would object to have all of those optional costs included in the basic cruisefare. Those that choose to eat only in the free venues, who don't drink alcohol or even soft drinks, like the idea of paying a lower cruise fare that doesn't have them subsidizing those who want to dine in Chops or Portofino every night or spend their evenings in the Champagne Lounge or Schooner Bar.;)

There are cruiselines for both types of people. Unfortunately you want to turn a mainstream line into one which operates according to your guidelines and that just isn't going to happen.:rolleyes:

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I completly agree with you. RS charge, $14.95 steaks, cutbacks. I say boycott, cancel with cruise lines that are doing this such as RCI.

Have to admire someone who has the courage of his convictions even if they are a bit misguided.:rolleyes: Canceling a cruise over a room service charge that only effects orders placed during the very early morning hours or an ill-fated test of charging for a supposed higher quality cut of steak in the main dining room on only one ship in a twenty two ship fleet, would, I hope, actually indicate that you don't enjoy the overall RCI cruise experience and are using those things to justify your decision. If those were in truth your only reasons for canceling the cruises I hope that you never encounter a serious problem on any of your trips. For some reason the phrase "using a sledge hammer to kill a fly" comes to mind. :rolleyes:

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Heck no I won't cancel or boycott. The way I see it, cruising IS all-inclusive - your basic accommodations, food, drink, entertainment and transportation (getting from port to port) are all included in your fare. If you want to upgrade from any of the basic provisions, you can pay to do so. If you don't want to, you don't have to. You don't HAVE to have Chops, Portofinos, Johnny Rockets, Ben & Jerry's, alcohol, photos, souvenirs, or play bingo or in the casino to have a memorable trip. Their task is to provide you with the basic vacation you're paying for. And as with many other types of vacations, you can choose to pay extra for upgrading your experience.

 

Whether it used to be free before or not, times have changed. I personally think the cruise lines still do one heck of a good job providing their product for a VERY fair price. And the cruise lines have enhanced their products over the years, offering many more choices (albeit some for a fee now) than before. Cruising is still one of the best values around.

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I have to agree with the OP. I am tired of the nickel and diming and the lack of a traditional cruise experience. I am afraid the trend will be HUGE ships, mediocure service, and paying for anything above and beyond. Cruising used to be a lavish vacation.

DH and I are giving RCCL one more chance in 2 weeks, but unless we are WOWed like we were on our first cruises, we already have our SilverSea brochures laid out on the coffee table....

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It's been 10 years since I was last on a cruise, and now i'm going on a T/A on the IOS in April. I'm kind of shocked that the concept of "All Inclusive" has been slowly being whittled away. Yes, you always had to pay extra for booze, but now we have to pay extra for various specialty restaurants and other "Treats" (Ben and Jerry's, etc..)

 

My wife and I are of the opinion that we need to vote with our wallets. Boycott the Nickel and Diming the cruise ships do to us. Yes, it may affect our enjoyment of the cruise, but if enough people think the same then perhaps they will reconsider the "All Inclusive" nature.

 

I'm seeing this as a progression, and like the airlines, it won't be long before *ALL* food is a la cart, all in the name of "cost savings".

 

Anyone else feel similar?

 

 

 

Bet you didn't pay $399pp for an inside cabin or $699 for a balcony on a 13 night cruise 10 years ago, because they were the prices for the above cruise on offer last week and infact the $399 offer is still applicable today:D, if RCCL are not careful they will be paying some of the passengers to go on the cruise:rolleyes:

I hope your wife and yourself enjoy the cruise along with us and 3000+ others who will be having a great time on the "Indy";):)

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