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On 11/11/2021 at 10:20 AM, Team Stag said:

First & foremost - you have to make the decision that works for you & your family.  Second - I have no real data; I'm only offering an educated assumption as someone who has closely followed the CDC & return to cruising.  I am also sailing on the Reflection in November so I noticed the color change as well.  

No one truly understand the color system and what effects it. My guess for the Reflection is this:  Based on roll calls & crackbook post that mentioned people have been reassigned cabins on the 6th floor, the assumption is that is for quarantining new crew members.  If they have new crew members who have not be quarantined for 2 weeks that would bring the Reflection "out of compliance" with the conditional sailing order - because they will no longer have 98% crew fully vaxed even though technically they are quarantine and not coming in contact with any crew or guest.  

 

If you remember, the Reflection, previous to November, was being used as a crew only quarantine ship; then the crew members were moved to other vessels.  The conditional sailing order was set to expire around the end of Oct which then the Reflection could return to service.  But then the CDC extended the Conditional Sail Order (on Oct 25, 2021) until January 2022.  So now Celebrity is having to do 2 week quarantines on active ships. 

Finally, when I was on the Edge in July, I was overly impressed with the transparency from the Captain on every positive case (guest, crew or contractor) that happened.  Then it quickly made it Cruise Critic to share.  I would be shocked if they are not continuing that level of transparency.   It was this level of transparency along with safety measures on the ship that gave us confidence to book again for a cruise this year. I am also HIGHLY confident that if there was positive cases on the Reflection, with all the free intranet people have on the boat; someone would have posted about here even if they weren't doing live review.

Again - I am not an expert in this field nor have any CDC direct knowledge.  Just trying to share my mindset as we make the same decision you do to cruise or not.  Sorry about the thread highjack.

You’d think Celebrity would be able to tell you why it suddenly showed up on the CDC website as yellow.  It was green at the beginning of the week.  I do understand and appreciate your thought process - would just be nice if Celebrity could clarify to a guest.   We’ve decided to push off our cruise.  Still have 3 booked - one of these days I’m confident we will sail!!  Enjoy and stay safe!  

On 11/11/2021 at 10:20 AM, Team Stag said:

First & foremost - you have to make the decision that works for you & your family.  Second - I have no real data; I'm only offering an educated assumption as someone who has closely followed the CDC & return to cruising.  I am also sailing on the Reflection in November so I noticed the color change as well.  

No one truly understand the color system and what effects it. My guess for the Reflection is this:  Based on roll calls & crackbook post that mentioned people have been reassigned cabins on the 6th floor, the assumption is that is for quarantining new crew members.  If they have new crew members who have not be quarantined for 2 weeks that would bring the Reflection "out of compliance" with the conditional sailing order - because they will no longer have 98% crew fully vaxed even though technically they are quarantine and not coming in contact with any crew or guest.  

 

If you remember, the Reflection, previous to November, was being used as a crew only quarantine ship; then the crew members were moved to other vessels.  The conditional sailing order was set to expire around the end of Oct which then the Reflection could return to service.  But then the CDC extended the Conditional Sail Order (on Oct 25, 2021) until January 2022.  So now Celebrity is having to do 2 week quarantines on active ships. 

Finally, when I was on the Edge in July, I was overly impressed with the transparency from the Captain on every positive case (guest, crew or contractor) that happened.  Then it quickly made it Cruise Critic to share.  I would be shocked if they are not continuing that level of transparency.   It was this level of transparency along with safety measures on the ship that gave us confidence to book again for a cruise this year. I am also HIGHLY confident that if there was positive cases on the Reflection, with all the free intranet people have on the boat; someone would have posted about here even if they weren't doing live review.

Again - I am not an expert in this field nor have any CDC direct knowledge.  Just trying to share my mindset as we make the same decision you do to cruise or not.  Sorry about the thread highjack.

Thank you for your thoughts. Appreciate it.  

18 hours ago, ev8876 said:

It’s now gone to Code Yellow.  CDC investigating. 

We’ve reached out to celebrity and they won’t tell us anything about the Refection being “yellow” and investigated by the CDC.   Even called the CDC and the just ready the website definition to us!  Any word on the ship now?  Thanks 

Hi there - 

Appreciate all of your comments.  I just saw that the Reflection was listed as "orange' with the CDC.  Have they kept you informed?  Do you know what is going on?  Now I'm hesitant to board on Saturday.   Thanks so much!

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/cruise-ship-color-status.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Ftravelers%2Fcrew-disembarkations-commercial-travel.html

Thank you!  We board the Reflection this Saturday and appreciate your update.

Just now, citronella said:

I shall send you a picture - again, many thanks.  And hope you are able to take this trip in the future.

I would LOVE that!  and i do hope to make this trip at some point - have  a few others booked at the moment, but perhaps after those. 😉

11 minutes ago, citronella said:

bdon9@nl.rogers.com.  Many thanks.

just sent via email.  Enjoy!

1 minute ago, citronella said:

Holly, very Kind offer.  We will be in Stockholm 11 June ( on 02 June sailing ) if you have 2 tickets left.

 

Sorry to hear you had to cancel.

sure - what's your email address.

31 minutes ago, bernipops said:

Hi Holly what a shame you couldn't take the cruise, I do hope your friend recovers quickly.  What a kind offer to pass your Abba Museum tickets on and I would really appreciate two of them if they are still available.  We are on 16 June sailing will they still be valid.  My email is thedoghouse178@aol.com.  Many thanks in advance.

You are welcome!  What date will you be in Stockholm?  I will need to change the date on them but I will email you two tickets once that is settled.

Holly

Hi all -

ABBA, THE MUSEUM - 4 FREE tickets available!!

I was supposed to be sailing on this cruise but had to cancel due to a travel companion needing emergency surgery. (she is doing fine now, but can't travel)  

 I have 4 tickets to the Abba Museum that i am happy to pass along to anyone who is interested. I have spoken to the museum and they said i can transfer the tickets to anyone, but i can not get a refund.  I would love to see them used by someone and not go to waste!

Just reach out to me and let me know if you want them!

Holly