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On 3/24/2023 at 9:26 PM, Wendylet said:

Planning a trip at some point on the Wonder and we are gifting this trip to our two daughters, their husbands and their children and ourselves. I have one unenthusiastic son in law who flat out says he has no interest in a cruise…..even though it is free for him. I want to rap him upside the head! I asked him to look at the Wonder to see how fantastic it looks but he simply says he is sure there will just be lines everywhere to do anything. He hates lines. Never having cruised a ship this size before can anyone tell me how bad the lines are for slides and other activities. Likely we will be cruising the Caribbean in either a January or April. I wish someone was giving ME a free trip!!

Then let him stay at home.

Shorts are fine

6 hours ago, dleahy4444 said:

She was supposed to have a biopsy today which was canceled because the doctor had an emergency and she is waiting for it to be rescheduled, and then for the results. However her blood work, Pet scan, MRI and constant pain  seem to be pointing in the direction of a relapse.I’m hoping that the biopsy is negative, but I was trying to plan ahead if if isn’t. She actually doesn’t know I’ve been looking into this. Just trying to take things off her plate since she has enough to worry about. 

What about an online fundraising page. The rest of your group could chip in and you could see what could be done here as well. She might have a good patch after treatment and you can rebook her and son last minute for a week she is feeling well. Last minute cost more but with fundraising money and her health taking advantage of a good couple of weeks might be the best and only memories the two of them can have at this point. Maybe enough can be raised to go full out first class last minute. $5 or $10 X hundreds of people reading this could help a lot. And given what your saying she would need a trip planned no more then 7 days in advance. The good weeks pop up and you must make the most of them. And she doesn't need to know if she's to proud till it's a done deal. Think about it.

22 hours ago, dleahy4444 said:

We obviously disagree but arguing about what, in our opinion, RCCL should do isn’t going to solve the problem. We will call them and see what they say and also call the credit card company and see if there is any type of travel coverage. Those were two constructive suggestions offered on this thread which may or may not help, but we will try.

So did any of it work? Talking to Royal? Checking with credit card?

In months when it's 90 plus out, is it hotter in the Solarium on Wonder then out on deck?

40 minutes ago, dleahy4444 said:

I think everyone sees things differently. I personally would not begrudge rccl for refunding or crediting a cruise for someone who becomes ill with a life threatening disease and is unable to cruise, whether I know that person or not. Hopefully there are not that many people that have a reoccurrence of cancer right before cruising that would “open the flood gates”. But that’s my opinion, and does not need to be anybody’s else.  

Oh look, if you want to be like that. Opening the flood gates could be for any number of illnesses or problems. Who is to say which should be considered important enough. Do cancer patients not get bills for hundreds of thousands from hospitals? Especially if they don't have insurance or if insurance doesn't cover. Why should cruise lines be more forgiving them medical institutions? Don't lump cancer in as the only opening of the flood gate. I was talking bigger picture and you know it.

1 hour ago, dleahy4444 said:

Frankly, even prior to this,  RCCL had begun to lose its luster for me (after 20+ cruises) but that’s a subject for a different thread. 

I don't see how (as you mentioned in another post) your status with Royal Caribbean should play any part in there decision to refund a non refundable trip to someone you know. I'm sure everyone has a friend of a friend. Not to take anything away from someone who is not well. And if you want to start an online Kickstart type thing I will put in $5 to help replace the money lost. But it just isn't fare to ask them to bend the rule. I had a sad story in 2006 and asked nothing from Royal. It was my problem and wasn't something insurance would cover. But if one gets a break, the flood gates are open. 

49 minutes ago, dleahy4444 said:

We are a group of 24, booked through the group booking department so everyone paid in full by the final payment date of 2/6/2023. The sailing itself is 5/7/2023, so about 50 days out. A member of our group has a number of health problems as a result of battling a very serious disease. Her son is also on the sailing but in a separate cabin. They do not have travel insurance. At the time that they booked she was feeling ok, but since then has suffered a relapse. If she is not well enough to travel and has a doctor’s note to that effect, will RCCL issue a refund or at least a credit toward a future cruise date? How about for the adult son? He is her caretaker and one of the reasons he booked the trip was to help her during the sailing.  Anyone with any insight on this? Thank you 

She has a number of health problems and didn't insure her trip. Even if her pre existing conditions prevented getting insurance, her son should have purchased some. If Royal make one exception they have to make them for everyone. And that's not fare to the rest of us.

34 minutes ago, garywatson said:

Weird that it's still showing as booked in my reservation.  I wonder if they are going to cancel it at some point. I still see a Key on my seapass.

What's your deal at this point?

I got the $50 obc. However, I never received any email apology. I never received a credit to my card for thr $88.99. My status in the planner still shows booked, like yours does. And my charge went from pending to charged days ago. If they don't credit me soon I will owe interest to Visa. I would like to cancel, but don’t want to loose the $50 obc. With air and hotels I have almost $7k in my trip, non of it refundable at this point, but we have actually had a talk aboutgiving up. The last thing we need is an aggravating disappointing experience. RoyalCaribbean has sucked any and all joy out of the pre cruise planning experience and excitement. Nothing but concerns about future aggravation remains.

Just now, Mum2Mercury said:

Evidence to the contrary. 

 

I don't know how much the average cruiser drinks, but I am sure it varies widely -- but I think you've missed my point.  

Yeah, I'm done.  

This is a messageboard. I type with my thumb. Could you please be done making jokes about my grammar. Once might be funny. This is just unnecessary. Thank you.

1 minute ago, poocher said:

I don’t which is why I don’t say “most go 8 drinks and beyond a day”

Again, this devolved from Mum2Mercury agreeing with billslowsky on food waste and how much people put on their plates in the WJ. A conversation I was part of last night. Because I don't see how there is anything you can do about that, so why bring it up.

2 minutes ago, poocher said:

How do you know how much the “average cruiser who drinks” drinks?

How do you. Everyone is drink package mad. All they talk about is how much they need to have to get their monies worth.

I really don't give crap. I was talking about micro managing what people put on their plate in WJ. This was response to a post from a post etc etc. 

7 minutes ago, Mum2Mercury said:

I don't follow your thought about Windjammer plates. 

 

What I know for sure is that I will spend very little on alcohol -- period.  If I bring a bottle of wine, I may drink more, but the amount I'm going to spend at the bars is not going to change.  I don't think I'm alone in this.  

 

I also know that affect is a verb, while effect is not.  

I don't need a lesson in how and what to write from the likes of you.

You cannot compare yourself to the average cruiser who drinks. Most go 8 drinks and beyond a day. That bottle brought on board is a profit loss for the ship. 

24 minutes ago, Mum2Mercury said:

Again, food itself is inexpensive compared to labor and presentation.  

I'm not impressed with a Head Waiter who isn't really "head" of his dining room.  

Eh, no.  People are allowed to bring wine onboard, but it doesn't necessarily follow that without that brought-from-home wine people would spend more at the bars.  

Nor does it follow that other people's drinks go up in price.  If the ship charges X for a drink and they sell fewer drinks, that doesn't make the drink cost 2X.  The per unit cost would remain the same.  

We have two cruises booked for the next year, but we just decided our next vacation (after those) will be the Everglades and Dry Tortugas National 

So what we tell people how much they can put on a plate in the WJ like that guy said?

Also, you have ZERO idea how wine brought on board effects bar profits. I would say it effects bar profits by the amount of each bottle brought on board. 

Over 400 posts since 2009. Your not a one and done complainer, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Many say food has gone downhill. Many say cabins are dusty and dirty. You are not alone on that. Also, many, many are complaining about attitude from staff. I'll buy that one also.

What I will question is complaining about price of a trip you purchased 2 weeks out. Land, air, sea, etc...all cost a ton when done last minute. That's on you. 

And drinks package. Nobody forced you to buy it. If I don't like the price, I don't buy. Again, that's on you.

But I will buy the complaints of poor quality and service. As you are not the first and with the way things have been going, not the last with those issues.

1 minute ago, time4u2go said:

As I've said before, I'm not suggesting that it be a rule.

I get that. It was just a waste of time thing for the op to suggest. Because it can't happen.

I could say if people would stop committing crime, we could save money on police. Why bother to say silly "ifs".

1 minute ago, time4u2go said:

I don't know. Others would have to weigh in on that (pardon the pun). 

Again, they loose their s*** over one lobster vs 2. The the topic was people angry about one entree at a time instead of two. Limit your buffet intake? Based on everything I just mentioned, I'm sure they would love it.

Also given Royals one plate at a time MDR crap, this is not something that should ever be joked about. They went from nickel and dimming to trying to control how people eat already. Not a road that will end well.

3 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

I think the implication was that people would voluntarily reduce how much they took. I don't recall seeing anyone suggest that doing that would be forced on anyone. If forcing it was suggested I must have missed it.

Am I the only one who sees what the original post said/suggested as silly and pointless?

1 minute ago, time4u2go said:

I think the implication was that people would voluntarily reduce how much they took. I don't recall seeing anyone suggest that doing that would be forced on anyone. If forcing it was suggested I must have missed it.

But come on. On what planet would people who paid money by the way voluntarily reduce what they took and ate at a buffet on their vacation. 

Just now, time4u2go said:

I don't think it was suggested here that anyone's onboard behavior be controlled.

It was said if people would not take so much on their plates. So it kinda was. That's what I reacted to.

People loose their s*** about how much lobster they can eat. We don't need Moms saying do you really need 2 scoops of mashed potatoes on that plate. Lol

Just now, time4u2go said:

That's a great question! I have no idea. 

You can't without making thousands of angry paying customers. And controlling their lives while on board.

1 minute ago, time4u2go said:

Not sure what that has to do with wasting food in the Windjammer but whatever.

You agreed with someone who felt people take to much at the WJ. Was just responding to you both. It's not something you can control. Not without becoming a prison.

Just now, time4u2go said:

I'm not talking about micromanaging anything. I'm talking about supply and demand.

If you don't make people put less food on their plate, how else would you accomplish this wonderful idea?