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7 hours ago, Rosmerta said:

Here is a summary of the Cambridge study. At the bottom it say mis-September to esrl December for first cases. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200409085644.htm

Yep that's the one.  

7 minutes ago, catl331 said:

That was five months before it first appeared in Wuhan China.

Yes it was.  That doesn't really mean anything. 

Most people believe it will take lots of research to figure out exactly what happened.  Kind of like the Spanish Flu.  Identified in Spain but didn't start there.  Many believe it started in North America. 

They are still looking for where Covid started.....Patient number one.  Geneticists from Cambridge University show it back to mid September so far and possibly not starting in Wuhan.  Wuhan was possibly the second mutation or Type B.  They are still trying to place type A which is closest to the bat mutation.  Possibly Guangdong which is 500 miles away but they are still researching and testing and that will take much more time.  Apparently Wuhan was just the first city it was actually identified.  IDK.  I'm not a forensic scientist or geneticist.  

On 8/7/2019 at 8:05 PM, Rosmerta said:

Let me first say we loved our Alaskan northbound cruise, the scenery, the crew, fellow passengers but—I have never seen a word posted about the ventilation coming out of the ceiling, hot and cold 24-hours a day—just over our beds. I should have had the beds separated by day two, giving a few inches relief, but I didn’t. By Ketchikan, I had a full blown sinus infection. Am on antibiotics now.

Meanwhile, good friend of mine got the flu on the Westerdam in early July and was led off with all the other sickies and their spouses to a separate train car, sent to a resort to recover for 3 days before Denali.

 Oakman58 in his wonderful Westerdam report from early June ended up at the Denali Clinic from cruise crud https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2677658-westerdam-alaskan-cruisetour-jun-2-13-2019/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-57890076 

So do all the ships in this class have this type of ventilation? Am I the weakest link in our biological cruise-chain. I’m hesitant to book the Volendam for a 35 night Amazon cruise.

 

I just came on here looking to see if anyone else got very ill on the Westerdam.  I don't normally get sick on a cruise at least not for a very long time and I did 11 cruises last year.   I was on there June 16th - 23rd.  I wasn't immediately sick but got very ill within a week.  I have no idea if it was from the ship or something after that...that's what I'm attempting to figure out.  My daughter swears now that I had Covid back then.  Had every single symptom except death although there were a few days when I thought about Doctor Kevorkian.  We continued traveling for many weeks but it was a struggle each and every day.  Some days I was completely bedridden and my daughter went off on her own.  It lasted 5 weeks when it finally broke.  Tried antibiotics.  Inhaler.  Herbal remedies from every country we visited.  Nothing worked except hot liquids and a lot of them.  I kept blaming it on having a flare but it was like no flare I had ever had.  😞  Many days she asked if I needed to go to the hospital but we were traveling in non English speaking countries so I was afraid.  

Did you ever figure out what you had?  Did anyone else message you?