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    Jamaica Queen???

    in What Ever Happened To........???

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    I've received some emails indicating that the cruise line which ran the Jamaica Queen was either called Continental Cruise Line or Continental Cruises.

     

    There is also talk that Jamaica Queen might have been sailing on behalf of National Airlines as part of their Fly and Save Vacation packages.

     

    Still no word on which ship the Queen was converted from, however.

    ccl67.jpg I found this on www.Timetableimages.com, but not much else......

    HELP!

     

    Notice on this leaflet and the one I have also, the blue funnel stripe has been inked over and the SomerFin "S" replaced with a Weston "W". These leaflets must have been Arison's and Continental Cruises sent them out to be re touched with the new owners markings.

    Jamaica Queen???

    in What Ever Happened To........???

    Posted · Edited by BetterMost

    So Arison was owner of Continental lines then? I guess what has me confused is the Jamaica Queen leaflet is for 1967-68 & 69 and when we were on her it was Christmas of 1967 so I'm guessing shortly after we were on her she was repossessed and there never was a 1968 and 1969 season. Wow the poor Nili was really kind of doomed all of her very short 15 year life then. I have very fond memories of her I even won the scavenger hunt on the cruise and was the only one that found the cruse directors room key, I even went into her cabin! :D I remember getting lost one night I was only 10 at the time and I wound up on the closed and empty car deck in the pitch darkness and couldn't find my way out and ended up opening a hatch and ended up on a cat walk over the engine room walking just above the two HUGE green engines they had glass windows on some part of each of them and you could see motor oil splashing over the glass from the inside of the engine. I thought I was in HEAVEN!

    Later that night about 1am, we were up on the top deck by the funnel and there was a huge BANG! BANG! and everything went silent we drifted about 2 hours in fact a Cuban coast guard ship came out to see what was going on and why we we drifting for so long. We were told a fuel line broke and they had to make an emergency repair to get us going again and once in Kingston a repair crew was on board making permanent repairs.

    Jamaica Queen???

    in What Ever Happened To........???

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    This is from Wikipedia, are they talking about the Jamaica Queen here?

     

    The company was founded as Norwegian Caribbean Line in 1966 by Knut Kloster and Ted Arison, with just one 830-ton cruise ship/car ferry offering low-cost Caribbean cruises. Arison soon left to form Carnival Cruise Lines, while Kloster acquired additional ships for Caribbean service. NCL pioneered many firsts in the cruise industry like: the first Out Island Cruise, the first combined air-sea program (marketed as "Cloud 9 Cruises") which combined low cost air fares with the cruise, first shipline to develop new ports in the Caribbean, like Ocho Rios in Jamaica. Like the original Sunward of 1966, NCL's second ship, the Starward had the capability to carry automobiles through a well concealed stern door. Later, this area was turned into cabins and a two deck movie theater, which is now a casino. NCL was responsible for many of the cruise innovations that have now become standard throughout the industry.

    Jamaica Queen???

    in What Ever Happened To........???

    Posted · Edited by BetterMost

    Interesting stuff, indeed!

     

    The gist of this seems to be that a big Advertising Agency publicized the "Jamaica Queen" under the assumption that Arison was an Agent of the Israeli conglomerate that owned the Nili.

     

    When they billed Arison, after the work was done, they learned that he had only chartered the ship.

     

    The Admen went to court, asking that the revenue that the ship earned in the Caribbean be used to pay for their services BEFORE any of it was used to pay the Israeli Mortgages that had financed the construction of the ship.

     

    This proposed interuption of the revenue stream violated the forclosure clause in the mortgages, so the state of Israel requested that the Jamaica Queen be arrested to protect their collateral.

     

    Exit Jamaica Queen, enter Sunward

     

    il_w0299.jpgSunward01.jpg

     

    I have never been on the Sunward but I have traveled on its sort of sister ship the Southward that was a very nice boat.

    The Southward

    in What Ever Happened To........???

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    I sailed on her twice. A 7 day Western Caribbean itinerary in 1975 or 76 and a 3 day out of LA in the early 90's. It was pretty amazing pulling out my old pictures the second time around. The casino on the later cruise was where a pool had been earlier!!! It's also amazing to see the differences in those old ships and the new ones. like the DAWN & JEWEL.

     

    The difference is the Dawn and the Jewel are not real ships they are Floatels as is all the crap they are building now. They don't build real ships anymore just Orlando Florida resorts with hulls under them.

    Jamaica Queen???

    in What Ever Happened To........???

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    UNBELIEVABLE! That seller is my local Ocean Liner Memorabilia Dealer :mad:

    I should have asked if he had anything Nili related before this!

    Who knows when something like this will come up again?

     

     

    I know, I was going to contact him to see if he might have photo copied it before selling it. The auction literally ended 3 days before I found this thread and learned the Jamaica Queen was really the Nili.

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