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  1. I do remember Uni - you were absolutely right! Some of us (including myself) agreed he would get prison - how long we weren't sure. He is only going to serve around 13 years and will probably get off sooner if such things as good behavior exist in Italy. Not nearly enough for the 32 lives lost that night. One thing is for sure - no more vino and ragazze for a while at least. :evilsmile:

     

    The sinking of the Costa Concordia resulted in several highly active threads on the matter. They were closed by the administrator for want of activity as time went on.

     

    I previously posted on those threads, the legal process would grind slowly but would inexorably result in a long prison term for Concordia's Captain Schettino.

     

    Many posters doubted my professional legal opinion and challenged my predictions.

     

    The Final Verdict is in.

     

    Former Captain Schettino's conviction for manslaughter and his 16 year prison sentence has been upheld by Italy's highest court.

     

    Here's the AP news report

     

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...L&ocid=UE03DHP

     

    By the By, the AP photo shows the Captain has not aged well during the prosecution. It will be in even worse while incarcerated.

  2. "The latest video shot from drones of the Costa Concordia wreckage off Giglio Island in Italy. The video shows how little of the wreckage is above the water now that the ship has been righted. In the video, as the drone flies around the starboard side of the vessel (nearest the land), it shows the damage and discoloration caused when the ship rested on that side underwater for more than a year."
  3. Not looking good for Schettino......

     

    A radio operator on board the Costa Concordia has told a court how captain Francesco Schettino delayed calling rescue services after the luxury liner struck rocks.

     

    Flavio Spadavecchia said he had "waited and waited" for Schettino to give the order so that he could alert coastguards of their situation but it never came, holding up the rescue operation.

     

    http://news.sky.com/story/1170380/costa-concordia-captain-delayed-rescue-call

  4. "Domnica Cemortan admitted the relationship after the judge at the trial of the ship's captain threatened her with charges"

     

    So the Judge threatens her because he does not like what she says and has her Co erced into changing her story .... :eek:

     

    She sure did change her "story". From lies to finally the truth. Don't forget the woman has a small child and has nothing to gain by lying under oath to protect her former lover. The judge was kind enough to remind her that there are penalties imposed for not telling the truth. I wasn't surprised Schettino's wife was nowhere to be seen and not standing by her man -- that says a whole lot!

  5. [quote name='SomeBeach'][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue]No surprise here. Captain blames helmsman for crash and wants another investigation as to why things went so wrong.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
    [URL]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ITALY_SHIP_AGROUND?SITE=NVREN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[/URL][/QUOTE]

    True, right on cue, absolutely no surprises here. He's blaming the only non-Italian who will not be traveling to Italy for the trial and who experts have determined whatever he did or didn't do wouldn't have made one bit of difference in preventing or causing the accident. Blaming the helmsman, IMO, is on par with blaming a dead person -- the poor guy can't defend himself -- he neither has the funds nor the language skills.

    The next trial hearing is scheduled for October 7 according to the Italian press. The witnesses will be Giovanni Iaccarino, officer, Simone Canessa, official cartographer, and Salvatore Ursino, another officer. Domnica Cemortan, will also provide testimony but it's not clear if she will actually be present. She did give press interviews and spoke glowingly of Schettino on a morning TV program this a.m. in Italy. She mentioned in the interview she is writing a book as well.......stay tuned. :eek:
  6. [quote name='SomeBeach']" will be not be able to take control of the helm of a ship [B]until further[/B] [B]notice[/B]."

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue]Wonder why suspended and not withdrawn. Maybe awaiting outcome of trial. :confused:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]

    Wonder why it took 20 months to suspend -- the timing seems strange -- that it coincided with the righting of the ship. They should have permanently revoked the license IMO.

    Will you be watching the Discovery Channel on the recovery tonight? Let us know your thoughts.
  7. Apologies in advance if this has already been posted but thought some might like to read this article just coming out of Italy which reports the projected date for Concordia to be righted to be September 4. There is also mention that the ship will more than likely stay righted at Giglio and not moved until next Spring. Just do a Google translate to get the gist of the article.

     

    http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/livorno/cronaca/2013/07/30/news/si-raddrizza-la-concordia-titan-punta-al-4-settembre-1.7502806

  8. The problem with the QPS reenactment is that it does not show the rudder angle at the same time as the heading. This is critical to determining not only fault of the helmsman, but Schettino as well.

     

    I've got a copy of the MIT report downloaded, and have read it fairly extensively. I believe the report comments that there were misunderstood "headings" (i.e. "315") that were corrected (this happens frequently, particularly when you hear the background conversations on the bridge at a time when there should not have been anything going on other than the navigation of the vessel), and one instance where the helmsman started to reverse his helm, but which was corrected within 8 seconds.

     

    Ships are required to be able to move the rudder from hard port to hard starboard in 30 seconds, so there is a lag between what position the helm is at, and the rudder (this is discussed in the MIT report). Also, each ship is required to post a "turning radius" card (Skipper help me with the right name) that tells how quickly the ship will respond to helm commands at various speeds. You would need to factor this turning response into any reenactment to determine whether any action by Schettino or the helmsman could have saved the ship.

     

    As I've said about Schettino's claim that he ordered port helm to keep the stern from swinging into the rock, he should have ordered an immediate hard port command, rather than going "midship", "port 10", "port 20", which anyone familiar with the handling characteristics of his own ship would have known.

    Wow -- thanks so much for this! Very informative. The Peter Principle rearing its ugly head. Schettino promoted to captain will go down as being one of the most rock-hard-quasar-stupid decisions ever made in Maritime history. Just looking at it from a numbers perspective thus far, with the wreck and salvage -- it is staggering -- more than a billion and counting!

  9. Has anyone heard mention of the two people in the report from the crisis unit before Urdprunger and Parodi? from what i recall there was only ever mention of the main man Ferarini from the crisis unit that was in court.

     

    Uni .. thanks for that.

    Yes, those two names were vaguely mentioned in the past. Roberto Ferrarini was the Marine Operations Director /

    Fleet Crisis Coordinator - he got two years, 10 months in jail the other two, Ursprunger and Parodi received monetary fines.

  10. Thanks, you've obviously been tracking this much closer than I, I'm more on the salvage front. I'll just bet that his employment contract was terminated anyway, immediately after admitting culpability, for disobeying the Captain (which he just admitted to). 12 years with Costa, and they will throw him to the wolves; typical for international crews. His union in Indonesia seems willing to help, so he should get a job anywhere, as an experienced seaman.

     

    You're welcome ;)

     

    Just found this reenactment of the accident on QPS using the recorded AIS data. Not sure how accurate this is and if somehow the audio could be transposed onto it. But I guess that's what they did as to the actions of helmsman in the MIT report (see last link, page 51-55), which does point out some mistakes. My question is: had the helmsman done everything as exactly ordered, would this have completely prevented the impact? It seems they were going mightly fast and flying by the seat of their pants.

     

     

    http://cf.gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Costa_Concordia_-_Full_Investigation_Report.pdf

  11. Just wondering what he was convicted of, and what the Italian laws about convicted criminals entering the country. I still think he should have taken a vacation back in Indonesia, and shipped out on RCI, NCL, or Carnival anywhere other than Italy.
    He might have not shown up in court this time around -- can't say that I blame him. Rusli did say Costa pressured him into admitting guilt. This was reported back in March by an Indonesian newspaper:

     

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/03/30/indonesian-helmsman-refuses-show-italian-court.html

  12. And still the poor helmsman gets screwed.
    Classic case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Since he got less than two years he might not have to serve. I think I read somewhere that anything less than two years in Italy generally doesn't have to be served. Hoping that's the case for him.
  13. CT ... From the news here it was said that the post on FB by the train driver was from a section of track where the train was able to do that speed, though posting it on FB was somewhat stupid.

    My thoughts exactly! Just like Schettino doing interviews - not smart. Let's see what gems pop up this week. :D

  14. What does Schettino and the speed freak driver (bragging on FaceBook right before) in last week’s Spanish train crash have in common? Let's throw in Anthony Weiner even though he didn't kill anyone for arguement's sake. All three of them all committed crimes of dickmanship that ended in disaster.

     

    These are three educated middle aged men - an Italian, a Spaniard and an American (yes Americans do stupid things too) showing off in an out-of-control way - two using speed and killing innocent passengers and the latter sexting his privates all over the internet for the world to see. Note to all 3 men - this is international: Brain: An apparatus with which we think. - Next time use this and not your dick to think. :p

  15. CT, that would be so cool if you could locate the guy. Course I think we already know what he will say. ;)

    As far as the black box, Schettino won't let anything like facts stand in his way. :rolleyes:

    I've located him and put in the request - will let you know if and when he responds. I can just hear him shouting from the rooftops "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire" :D

     

    Schettino has me baffled. :confused: I listened to this audio recording of the blackbox published by Canada's Fifth Estate. From minute 9:00 into the recording to minute 10:11 (moment of impact) you can hear the helmsman repeating and supposedly following Schettino's exact orders. No one says anything about the helmsman making any mistakes.

     

    http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2012-2013/2012/12/black-box-audio.html

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