Clarabella_Baby

I sail in 12 days on the Koningsdam and wanted to thank you for this.

As a Canadian who will NEED to test negative to get home, this is incredibly helpful.

Thank you!

12 hours ago, Spire2000 said:

 

Actually we'll be disembarking the Rotterdam on the 20th. My sig down below is years 🙂

Oh of course. 😋  Those would be a schwack of little cruises one after another.  

3 minutes ago, Spire2000 said:

Also a Canadian so I can put your mind to rest for a few things.

 

1. Canada will drop the non-essential travel advisory as of March 1st.

2. HAL covers your quarantine hotel. Insurance is good to cover flight changes or hospital stays if you get sick, but the hotel and food there is covered.

 

People have noted that these quarantine hotels are not quite what you think. You have freedom to walk the grounds and are just advised to mask up when around others.

I have heard we are dropping the non-essential travel advisory but not the advisory against cruise ship travel.

And thank you for the rest of it.  My mind isn't completely at ease yet.  😂

It looks like we will be on the same cruise!  March 20 on the Koningsdam!

8 minutes ago, StLouisCruisers said:

 

Here it is:  https://cruisingwithbillandmaryann.blogspot.com/2022/01/

 

She discusses testing positive on Jan. 21 and talks about the move to the Marriott on Jan. 25.

Thank you so much.  I'll have to check with my insurance company as I'm not sure much will be covered as our government is advising against cruise ship travel at this time and I wonder if that will nullify any insurance.  But I'll check.  I so so so desperately need a cruise.  

1 hour ago, Storylady said:

Quarantine is ten days in California and five days in Florida.   Maryanne and Bill went to Ft Lauderdale Coral Springs Marriott Hotel. She blogged about her quarantine on CC.

Thank you!  I'll search for it.

I'm reading in Canada it is, currently, a 10 day quarantine.

What I'm curious about is if there is any kind of a Holland America Hotel price discount that you can use to spend that 10 days in a hotel before I can fly back to Canada.

If at the end of a leg or segment, and you test positive, and Hal puts us in a hotel, do they have specific hotels with perhaps "quarantine" rates which might make it financially easier to be stuck for 10 days in?

This is a concern for me on my upcoming cruise.  Being stuck in an expensive hotel for 10 days before being allowed to return to Canada.

On 1/27/2022 at 12:28 PM, Riversedge said:

The whole ship was tested and 2 and 3 days out.  I was given a second (pcr) test the same day but no more tests were given. We will not be tested to get out.  I think if the whole ship had been done on the 3rd day many more cases would have been discovered.  I doubt I would have tested positive on the second day of sailing.  I probably would have just figured it to be sinus issues which I have all the time. 

Is this common for all cruises?  Testing once a couple of days after boarding and then not again for the rest of the cruise?

Thank you so much for your reports.  Your attitude and sense of humor are wonderful.  

I'm going to be on the Koningsdam in 50 days.....but who's counting.  😄

1 hour ago, tert333 said:

I wish you were right, but would not put a plan together based on your forecast.   Could very well be into 2022 or later before they recognize mixed vaccines.  The CDC has not vested interest in this issue as they do not have any citizens that have mixed AZ and mRNA vaccines.

Right?!?  So I'm going to go where my vacation dollar is accepted, instead of sitting around waiting for the situation to change.  

9 hours ago, LouTheGlue said:

 

I have the same AZ/Pf mixed vaccine, I'm looking at changing my cruise to Celebrity Apex out of Greece in September. You can see the travel requirement on this link https://www.celebritycruises.com/ca/healthy-at-sea/greece-travel-requirements

 

The AZ/Pf mix is accepted on this cruise

 

 

Thank you!  I'll look into this one.  Greece would be amazing!

10 hours ago, tert333 said:

'matter of time" - range 1 day to infinity....

Right!  I'm concerned with the fact that we have no idea when this might get fixed.  And I miss cruising!  

So I'll try Europe maybe.  A good excuse to get my butt over the ocean.

2 minutes ago, lostinparadise999 said:

Right now Holland America is requiring all passengers to be fully vaccinated. Unfortunately 2 doses and 14 days after last dose and mixing AZ with any other ones is not recognized as vaccinated. We are booked on a Oct TA from Venice to Ft Lauderdale. There is requirements to have proof of vaccination and use of QR code and/or documentation at each port.

On this cruise there seems to be a lot of singles wanting to cruise.

Pricing on cruises don't seem to be dropping at all. I guess it depends on the capacity HAL is allowing. Rumours is 60%.  

The mix they are suggesting is the two Mondera and Pzitfer. AZ is not recognized by Carnival Corp as it is not approved by FDA for use in US. Other countries widely use AZ. 

Sorry I wasn't clear.

I know I will not be able to cruise on Holland America and was wondering if anyone knew of a different cruise line or itinerary in perhaps Europe that would allow my mix of vaccines.

 Soooooo.....I'm getting incredibly nervous that I will not be able to take my booked cruises this fall as I am "unvaccinated" having gotten the AstraZeneca/Pfizer mix.

I'm not comfortable sneaking somewhere to get a third vaccine.  And I am quickly losing my optimism that this might be sorted out by the time I cruise this fall.

I've heard that the European cruises are allowing our 'mix' of vaccines.

Does anyone have a cruise line or specific cruise that might be good for me to look into?  I'm considering cancelling my north american cruises and booking something in Europe.

Some deets.....I usually cruise solo on Holland America.

Thanks in advance for any insight or advice.

15 minutes ago, K_e_short said:

Interesting. I guess I have only been following Carnival where you just have to wear a mask inside.

You aren't allowed off the ship but on the ship everyone is mixed up.

I thought I head read somewhere, in this mess of information coming at us about all of this, that one line is going to segregate the unvaccinated for meals etc.  

Just now, K_e_short said:

 Currently most cruise lines are doing 95% vaccinated so you are going to have people who are not vaccinated on your cruise.

 

Yes but I meant that pixiedust777, as categorized unvaccinatied would probably be lumped in with all of the other truly unvaccinated pax on the cruise ship for say, meals, shows, etc.  Mandatory masks and tests etc. etc.  

14 minutes ago, pixiedust777 said:

They did ask if we wanted to cruise under the unvaccinated status and said absolutely not. Why should it cost me nearly 1k more in testing fees and be limited to where and what I could do onboard.

Not to mention being stuck for the whole cruise with a bunch of people who are Unvaccinated!!! That would be the scary part for me.

3 minutes ago, gam888 said:

 

I am wondering about the second sheet, that indicates that we have 2 doses of Moderna. Although our first dose was AstraZeneca. What if they ask us to show the first sheet at the check in? Wouldn't that verify that we are mixed vaccinated people? I would hate to spend the money on the flight, arrive at the Bahamas (for Adventure of the Seas), and be told we are not fully vaccinated because they ask to see both sheets.

 

I have heard on other boards that they are asking for both sheets. I just can't imagine showing up at the ship, presenting evidence of two doses and them turning someone away as they don't have their first dose sheet.  gosh this is so concerning.  I hope it gets sorted soon.

This isn’t limited to HAL and cruises. 
 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvcalgary%3Apost&clipId=2243136&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR28xRQLw24ozlVbbLtjcOXA7Ax9E4EmMn0rh9ZHPdB8UVYGy79g1HmWL2YThis issue isn’t limited to cruises and HAL apparently.

This was on our news last night. 

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/07/15/canada-cruise-ban-end-nov/

Now can we come on your cruises with mixed vaccines?!?  hahahaha

I doubt they would let us get our third vaccine when there are so many people waiting to get their first or second.  And then even if they do start third boosters in the future, I'm sure they will prioritize those most at risk.  Gosh I'm so disappointed.  If I would have known this was going to be a barrier to me cruising I would have never gotten AstraZeneca.  We were only doing what our government recommended.

I was literally just talking with my PCC about this this morning.  I hope my conversation didn't trigger something.  Gosh how disappointing.

If I had of know this would have been a barrier to me cruising this fall I would have insisted on getting two MRNA vaccines.  

1 hour ago, wemjam said:

Just watched John Heald's breakfast video yesterday and he was very clear on this, unfortunately.  You are correct. In THEIR eyes you are not fully vaccinated and can not sail with that combination. 😞

Yeeks!  Well I might look to cancel and try and book on a line that accepts my combination as vaccinated.  I am disappointed.

Thank you wemjam for clearing this up!

9 minutes ago, Cruise Related said:

What I don’t understand stand is, if you have the J&J or Astra Zeneca you are considered fully vaccinated, but if you get a second shot of Pfizer or Moderna, you’re considered not fully vaccinated? Kinda weird, I thought carnival said any vaccine approved by WHO or CDC. Aren’t those approved? Do they become unapproved when mixed? 

I was curious so I found this.....

It just says "mixed".  It doesn't define mixed with what?

3 hours ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

The other current fly in the ointment is that Carnival (using WHO & CDC guidelines) does not recognize those vaccinated with mixed dosages except for Moderna+Pfizer.  So anyone with a mix of AZ and anything else is not considered fully vaxxed.

Oh no!!!  I'm AZ and Pfizer!!!  Gosh I hope this changes.

Remember when you could simply book and cruise, fly down and take the cruise.  Life was so simple back then.  😄

7 minutes ago, wemjam said:

Just curious how you are cruising from a US Port?  We are in Detroit area and often would go into Canada for trips away, but I thought all non-essential travel between the US and Canada was still banned?  Has it opened back up and I missed it?

It hasn't opened back up.  I'm taking a chance that it will in the next three months though.  And in the meantime I'm trying to do my homework to determine how travel might look.  To be prepared.