StanandJim

18 hours ago, RJB said:

So what is new?  Thru life people are always asking for a better deal.

A deal is a deal, but it might be better if we could stop short of stealing the gold pieces off of the eyes of corpses to get  them

This concept of standing on your business associates neck, just because World commerce makes it an an option needs to be addressed.

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.  

Will there EVER be a situation where the Lines are so hard pressed that people stop pushing for a perpetually better deal?

To be clear, the Deviation Fee, itself,  is a one time non-refundable cost which enables each passenger to change the fly in and fly out dates associated with their cruise.

The per LEG costs which may increase as a result of a Deviation are any upcharges assessed by the Airline when Oceania buys the tickets for those newer (hopefully better) flights. Please note that there are times when the newer flight will NOT be more expensive, so these fees do not always apply.

These Airline upcharges are a part of the Deviation negotiations with Oceania, and must be approved by the Passenger before the non-refundable aspect of the Deviation kicks in.

In short, the Passenger knows exactly what they are buying before they agree to buy it, and nothing is at risk until the Passenger OK's the specific routing (including costs) of the "new" Airline Arrangements.

55 minutes ago, ORV said:

It's not price, it whether or not it's on the bar menu.

Yes, very much in the manner of land based discounts which may  only be "matched" if those lower rates were ADVERTIZED.

The short answer is that your claim to Any handicap cabin is only as good as the claim of an ill person who needs to use it, versus your own physical needs.

The Revenue Dept tries to keep everything on a smiling, pleasant level, and as with most Cabin Guarantees, they attempt to only move clients "up", i.e  to ones which are seen as better more more desirable by the general public.   

On 11/20/2020 at 5:36 PM, MisterBill99 said:

 

That is the hotel that Oceania has. And literally since the last time  I looked yesterday and now, it is showing up as the pre-cruise hotel for my sailing. But the 2022 price is $379pp as opposed to $349 for 2021. I guess they have to make up for the reduced PE surcharge from $199 to $149.

The Grand Bretagne in my opinion, offers a once in a lifetime experience at their rooftop restaurant which will be your chief talking point about Athens, ever after.

Please don't miss it to save $50, or even $150.00 per person

It is THAT GOOD.  

57 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

After my dismal investment in Carnival, She Who Must Be Obeyed forbade me from buying that $7 stock.  😭 

Before what I will just call the Insanity of the current World Situation, My Brokers' used to regularly advise me to sell Carnival because travel stocks were supposedly too exposed.

For about thirty years, however, Carnivals' aggressive dividend stance made their ROI perfect for my situation, and their none too restrictive OBC program put them into the stratosphere, for me, until we started sailing exclusively with Oceania.

On 11/23/2020 at 10:54 AM, LHT28 said:

I thought the overhang was for the deck 11 cabins ???

I'm with you, Lynne,   deck 11 feels the overhang more than 10 does.

Trying to offer full disclosure as some people object to being hung with brand new rope.    

On 11/21/2020 at 6:04 PM, edgee said:

Yes, thus my reason for original post. I am concerned about pantry/supply closets which may be near the cabin I am inquiring about, but also am posing a generic question about where forward crew stairs doorway is located on O class ships..inquiring whether it is located across hall from 11014 or farther down on midship side of elevators in which case it would not be a concern.

The main crew staircase is located within their quarters, and is  forward of any Deck 11 Passenger Accommodation. 

There are also service staircases every hundred feet or so along every cabin hallway.

Those additional staircases will be most apparent to Passengers because whichever mattresses and box springs need to be switched out of Deck 11 cabins will be stored there.

No obstructions such as you describe, but it is worth noting that the main pool deck, which is  Deck 12 on the Marina, and therefore approximately 20 feet above the level of deck 10, has a cantilevered overhang of about 6 feet along its' entire length. 

Those housekeeping pantries occur every few feet for the entire length of all of the Passenger Accommodation Decks.

They almost never represent a noise issue.

2 hours ago, clo said:

There must be thousands and thousands are nice hotel rooms in Athens for way under those prices. Like hundreds less. And if you're only going to be there a night or two, who cares? 

In Athens we always scrounge up enough Points of one kind or another to Stay at the Grand Bretaigne, because of its historical significance, great service and Superb Rooftop restaurant overlooking the Parthenon.  

Unbelievably, the food is as good as the view......

48 minutes ago, susiesan said:

I would be interested in that cruise. I have wanted to visit Taiwan for a while and to combine a land trip there with cruise would be very appealing to me. I'm going to check with Princess to see if Americans could join that cruise if they are able to even fly to Taiwan at all.

The raison d'etre for that cruise is that the pool of potential clients is mostly unsullied in Taiwan because of their excellent response to Covid.

Allowing outsiders to participate would put everyone back in the same pool and probably get the Cruise cancelled before sailing.

Three Words:  Just Stay Home                                                                           

3 hours ago, KirkNC said:

Whether false or not, everyone is quarantined and the cruise is over.  

+1

People need to take a step back and STOP pushing the envelope on this.

Cabin fever, though irritating, isn't fatal.

On 11/1/2020 at 7:53 PM, DrHemlock said:

We aren't sick or injured, but we will probably be quarantined for two weeks at our expense before we're allowed to fly home.  Does this policy cover that?  Inquiring minds want to know....

+1, we just boycotted an annual family get together of some thirty years standing because of just that type of thing.  

1 hour ago, CruisingIGo said:

I am looking at the newly released 2022 itineraries and found something strange.  As I compare 12 day Med cruises, there is a pricing difference that I don't understand.   The Marina cruise is $900 more per person.

 

Riveria.....April 25-May 7

Marina....May 2- May 14

 

Of the 10 ports visited, 9 are the same.

 

Any ideas why the Marina cruise is more "desirable"?

 

 

You'll go crazy trying to shop for travel with questions like that.

Revenue generation is a course of study at Hospitality Schools.

It is also worth noting that April/May is a shoulder Season in the Med, so  the Marina Cruise may just fall  in High Season because historically the weather is better (warmer with less rain)  in May than April.

This may be just slightly off topic, but in our mid thirties we convinced ourselves to travel in the grand manner, even though we were not quite in that place financially, because our Parents, who had saved for a lifetime,  suddenly had serious mobility issues.  In other words,  we decided not to risk becoming the richest people in our Cemetery.  

As the present situation becomes more insane, surreal and impossible to believe, we are realizing that decision was a gift.

Sometimes the Universe guides us.......let it happen.  💐

On 11/1/2020 at 2:13 PM, bitob said:

There is far more motivation to upsell and perhaps not precisely meet the customer's needs if you are getting a percentage of the price paid.  This is pretty obvious to me.

 

I always want to know if someone is making a commission.

 

Consider a flat fee financial planner vs one who is making a commission on sale of securities.

 

DUH

 

 

 

 

I don't believe that this analogy applies, as any supposed  commissions would be paid paid by the Seller, not by the buyer.

2 hours ago, RJB said:

If true who could possibly want to buy them at this time?   Would need deep pockets and a lot of time to make any profit.  Just my thoughts.  

I hope that this won't be considered to be too editorial, but one of our, shall we say lesser Presidential luminaries has spoken endlessly about the very real advantages of a Recession to the One Percenters.

As your Grandmothers probably advised, "It is an ill wind that blows NO good".

True Dat, Nana!  😵

1 hour ago, susiesan said:

So once people are vaccinated they shouldn't travel in your opinion? If you are waiting for the Wuhan virus to be eradicated you will be waiting the rest of your lives, it is not going away. I am traveling now in the US, without a vaccine, and will continue to do so to wherever I can get to. I will get the vaccine as soon as I can to resume my global travels.

In my opinion, impatient persons rushing through this process have loused everything up for the rest of us over and over again.

Darwinism will sort this out in the long run, but it would be more expedient if people took a breath before rushing back out into the fray immediately when legal restrictions end.

They call patience a virtue for a reason......

17 hours ago, shank63 said:

we were spoiled with the PH3 and the extra room, but not the price.  IMO the B3 stateroom with the extended balcony aft is the best value on either Marina or Riviera.

Speaking strictly about the size and location of the Stateroom, you may be correct.

For additional Dining options and amenities, however, as well as the additional services of a Butler, which can add great value to the enjoyment of an Oceania cruise, I would always be tempted to book the Suite. 

Different people, different priorities  🤭

14 hours ago, susiesan said:

It could be a very long time before those people get the vaccine. In the meantime the rest of us will be happily cruising and traveling the world.

Why yes, because obviously your interactions with the Virus will depend completely and  entirely on your actions.

Isn't this just the type of thinking that got us here in the first place?

As far as I understood the 125% Offer, it was only for voyages through the end of November 2020.  The last wave of Cruises which were cancelled were in December of 2020, I don't see how they would qualify. 

32 minutes ago, the more ports the better said:

Looks like J&J is only a month or two behind Pfizer and Moderna. Hopefully, normalcy is on the horizon!

Dare we trust anything that J&J comes up with after their baby powder debacle?

48 minutes ago, LesSails80435 said:

We've never had any questions about ordering a specific wine varietal or drink for us or our guests when we have the Prestige Select.

I hope that you are not saying that you are ordering drinks under your Beverage Package and then giving them to your guests, as that could get your Butler into serious trouble.  😵