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    Labadee Merchants

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    That is an issue not just at the Caribbean but almost in any market/mall , I saw it in Asia , I saw it in Europe (yes the very cultured Europe) and in the US (At the malls were people try to sell you some new magic cream or other stuff or the time share sales people in Orlando or Vegas).

     

    Apparently they try to sell like that since it is working , due to people that like to burgeon like that or to people that buy at the end since they feel not comfortable to refuse .

    It will continue like that as long as people will continue to cooperate with this system .

    What I try to do as many other describe here is to say no thank you , first polite and if it is not helping more firmly.

     

    If I really want to buy something I will try to locate the most quite /no aggressive seller , buy what I want (yes sometime negotiating) and let him/her know I came to the boot/store since they did not try to force me in .

    Casino Program Changes

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    Thanks PompeySailor's , I just used word and copy paste over here :-)

     

    Good to hear that they are using stickers now on most of the big ships seems easy than carry the coupons and need to ask when they are gone.

     

    I do not think they are deducting the drinks from the rebate although there is some payments the casino needs to pay for each drink to the bar (for sure not the ridiculous price we are being asked to pay for).

    I guess that to protect themselves the host might say something like that .

    Casino Program Changes

    in Royal Caribbean International

    Posted · Edited by traveler301

    Hi all,

    This is the first time I am writing here but long time passive reader.

    I had encounter this wonderful thread which added allot of relevant information to me.

     

     

    Since it become a very big thread (takes around 20 minutes to go over it) and inside the different comments there are many good tips I thought it might be helpful to try and summarize.

     

    New program :

     

     

    • Royal Caribbean started a process to change the Club Royal program to something else.

     

    • The change was planned to start around March 2015 but it seems it will take more time.

     

    • Casino Rebate accumulation and use were extended from March 2015 to March 2016

     

    • The new program will have new tier levels, not clear which levels will be offer and if the entitlement for the tier will expire.

     

    • It seems that for the last few weeks Club Royal offers free cruises certifications for people that reached a certain level of a play during their cruise –

     

     

    • Club Royal are not sending many emails comparing to other spammers :)

     

    Club Royal information:

     

     

    • 1. Club Royal phone number – 8885612234

     

     

    • 3. Royal Caribbean M-life offers -

     

     

    What you can expect as club royal member for now :

     

     

    • Drink tickets on the big ships (I got them on Allure and Oasis)

     

    • Discount on cruises (Can be different discount per the member activity cruise and stateroom)

     

    • Free cruise for some people (information can sent via email or snail mail) it always a good idea to check in this thread what people got and fine out if you entitle for the same as many people complain they are not getting any emails from club Royal Special events.

     

    My thoughts and tips:

     

     

    • · I guess club Royal will sometime send Cruises offers for people that did not cruise lately to try and bring them again to cruise and spend money in the Casino. It might explain why some people are saying they cruise and gamble allot but not receiving offers while some of their friends that cruise less got. Just my thought

     

    • · Try not to play for the tier levels or for the comps, it should come as side benefit, just think , is it worse to spend 500 $ for 50 $ drinks or 5000$ for 1200$ cruise ?

     

    • · Most of the casinos will calculate not how much you lost but how much you played (time and money) also call theoretical lost (after multiply it by the house edge). In other words, in theory if you lost 20000$ in the first hour of a cruise and had to stop gamble will consider less for comps as if you played the same 100$ for few hours each day .for example , if you played 50$ per hand for 4 hours and in average there are 60 hands per hour you played – 50$*60*4= 12000$ , if you play 5 days like that its 12000*5 =60000$ now , if the house advantage in black jack is 1.5% (just an example) your theoretical lost during this week is 60000$*1.5%=900$ , out of it the casino can calculate how much they want to give you back as rebate , comps or any other “gifts” .slots machine the house advantage usually is much more.

     

    • · At Tables which don’t have electronic tracking system for the players, makes sure the host noticed when you start to play and how much you play , otherwise you might not get rated.

     

    • · If you play min 50$ try to play in a table with this minimum , if you play in a table that has less minimum and the host is not pay attention to the way you are playing you might be rated for less than you are playing…

     

    • · Don’t try to impress the host by putting more money when they are looking, some of them really don’t like it.

     

    • · Always good to ask if you entitle for something and you are not sure (if it is the Club Royal or an host).

     

    Hope it will help someone

     

    Good luck

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