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28 minutes ago, lambs2 said:

Have a cruise booked May 12 and cannot get into the website today. A month ago Celebrity helped me change our passwords and I did so with an agent from Celebrity walking me through the steps, so very hesitant to try again. Have gotten the message today that the problem is on their end.  All checked in a week ago (I HOPE) but cannot print luggage tags. Sure hope this resolves soon.

Pretty simple to change the password, and you can even re-use your current one (safe if you are not using it for any other websites).  Give it a shot.  We used to be your neighbors down south in Port Orange, but moved out west after 46 years.  

Question.  For those people who jumped through Celebrity's hoop to change the password and used the same password, upon trying to log in on the app, did the app suddenly work, or were you required to change the password there as well.

I cannot log into the app nor the website on my laptop.  TIA for any info.

47 minutes ago, Baynanno1 said:

 

That's a lot longer than 8 weeks!

Most have said the trial is due to finish on 20 August.

Here is what I don't understand.  I wrote to Celebrity complaining about the vaping in the Casino, and got a reply that it is "only" a test till August 20.   But I leave on the Equinox on the 19th of August.  What are they going to do - allow vaping the first night on the ship and then shut it down the next day?  Or since the ship shoved off before the 20th, that the entire cruise will be permitted to have vaping for the duration?

I just got an email about 50% discount on drink packages and when I went to look it showed the regular price of the premium drink package as $109.  Did they just raise it for the 50% sale?  Last time I looked I thought it was $89???

21 minutes ago, pmd98052 said:

 Safety protocols that the anti vax folks would never tolerate.

Although I could tolerate such steps, I would never pay thousands of dollars to go on a cruise and realistically be pretty much not fully enjoying myself.  That is why I am only interested in a fully vaccinated cruise.  But some politicians chose to politicize this and butt their nose into a private business.

On 6/19/2021 at 10:45 AM, macandlucy said:

Many of the assumptions about potential dangers of cruising are based on the situation in March 2020, where almost the whole population was vulnerable to Covid. That is no longer the case because there's so much immunity in the population now. 

 

Why do even the most restrictive states allow full opening now? Because they know that there is enough immunity in the population to make exponential spread a virtual mathematical impossibility.  This is the same situation on land or on a ship. People's respiratory systems and immune responses do not magically change once they embark a ship.

 

If you are fully vaccinated, the likelihood of you getting sick from covid is very low. If you do get sick (again, unlikely), you will likely experience very mild symptoms. Is this risk really so serious that cruising should be prohibited? As a vaccinated person, do you need to know your fellow cruisers measles vax stats, flu, hepatitis? Not really because YOU are vaccinated. You have protection from these bugs, so you don't need to worry, that's the bottom line and why we do vaccinations. (The public health component includes things like not overwhelming health care systems and creating herd immunity for the people who are unable to take the vaccine.)

 

None of this makes any sense to me -- there were people in March 2020 who were unafraid to go on a cruise and there are people in June 2021, who are fully vaccinated against covid, who are too afraid. 

 

 

 

I don't believe that vaccinated cruisers are afraid of Covid. They are afraid of an outbreak which would cause quarantine and similar situations to what happened to cruise ships a year ago if there are unvaccinated passengers or crew.

21 minutes ago, grandgeezer said:

That is not true, they have to do it within 24 hours of sailing. Been there, done that.

You are correct. There are actually two things that have to happen.  A safety announcement has to happen either before departure or immediately after departure.  Then a muster with all passengers is required within 24 hours. To kill 2 birds with one stone, cruise lines like Celebrity do both prior to departure. 
 

https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4719

40 minutes ago, canderson said:

At the risk of shaking up the BlackDuck again, a suggestion on why I'm watching and wondering.

Given what the schedule was for the 'revolution', you have to imagine that all of the soft goods needed were already purchased and warehoused somewhere.  Granted, it is very unlikely that major interior redesign, especially cabin additions and other structural changes, are likely to happen soon.  But the effort required to swap out some tired curtains and bedspreads is minimal, and as I say, the materiel was likely already waiting somewhere.  Given that, I would give it a reasonable 50/50 that rather than leaving that go, at least the 'easy' part would be done just to clear out some rented warehouse space.

I think the trick for us is when we approach Final Payment time, which would be Sept. 24 I believe.  If Celebrity still cannot commit to the Revolution before the December 23 cruise then we would have to cancel.  I fully understand those that are not interested in the Revolution and are happy the way the ship is, but like you said it is my money and there is a lot of competition for that money so I can be choosey if I so desire.  

I can fully understand the predicament Celebrity (and virtually all companies) is in, and if I could have one wish, it would be just to know yes or no if and whether the Revolution would happen so we can go ahead and make some plans.

29 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

We could report to muster stations in small, scheduled groups over a period of several hours on the first night.  Get our names checked off.

The ship cannot shove off unless all passengers have gone through the drill.  

8 hours ago, Blackduck59 said:

We are booked on Eclipse in January, at the time of booking it was supposed to be "Revolutionized" before our cruise. Well that was postponed months ago, we were disappointed and almost cancelled. Then we looked more closely at the plan and realized there is almost nothing on an "S Class" revolution for the non suite passenger. It really is all about the suite guests; taking half the Skyview lounge for a ridiculously large suite, making yet another public area and making it suite exclusive and depending on your point of view, it screws up the suite class dining room and lounge.

I'm kinda glad they postponed the "Revolution" of Eclipse, there was nothing in it for us peasants not in suites and it was scheduled to take a a huge chunk of the Skyview for a single suite. The only thing that may have been of interest to the great unwashed not in suites was the conversion of the always deserted "Cellar Masters" into Craft social.

All in all if you're not in a suite the "Revolution" on "S Class" is a bust and even if you are there's no guarantee you'll like it.

BlackDuck, I concur with your thinking. For me this question about what changes have been made, started in this past November when we booked a Dec 2020 cruise on the Constellation.  It was supposed to be Revolutionized this May and those older ships would really benefit from the upgrade.  The have done that on the Millennium and Summit and they have remade the rooms for us peasants to use your term.  New bedding, new carpeting, new bathrooms and ditched the shower curtain.  The rooms feel new.  So when this pandemic hit us, Celebrity has put the Constellation Revolution on hold with most people thinking it will never happen, at least not before our scheduled Dec 2020 cruise.  

Without the refurb we are not interested in going on the very old and tired Constellation.  So we are about to cancel that trip and were going to switch it to the Equinox, either this December or most likely the following year.  As I started investigating it appeared that verandah rooms were not changed in any way other than possibly new bedding.  Noticed that concierge cabins looked like they got that plus new carpeting.  My thoughts are that Revolutionizing is a waste on S class ships since they are much newer and not really much of a difference from the Edge class ships.  I find spending millions on public spaces on the ships is not anything I desire.  They are perfectly fine as they are and wish they would just update the cabins on a more regular basis instead and it would be cheaper too.  But of course these cruise lines find that publicizing these public spaces with the changes is good for publicity and I am sure just feeds their egos.  I have not found fault with public spaces but a number of times found a cabin that needed some updating and repair.

1 hour ago, Snit13 said:

Why can't the muster drills be viewed on TV in the cabin?  Muster on Royal's ships is/was a joke you could not hear or see anything.  At least in the past on Celebrity you could sit and watch and listen and not feel like a sardine in a can.  They could easily check to make certain you were in your cabin and watching the muster on your TV.

In the case of a real emergency all passengers need to report to their muster stations.  So, a drill is something where people find out where their muster station is and how they must get there.  I am pretty sure there is some liability to the cruise line if they didn't do it the way they do it now.   Do you remember in elementary school having a fire drill and actually leaving the classroom and being told where to stand outside the school?

23 minutes ago, 39august said:

Regarding the questions about Equinox, I believe concierge and aqua cabins got new carpet, drapes and bedding. Suites got new drapes and bedding. We were in a suite and I don't think we had new carpet. I believe all other cabins got new bedding. The Passport bar has new furniture and carpet and the famous "pig" side tables. We loved EQ as she was, so no biggie for us. 

Thanks, your information seems to parallel what little I have been able to find.   It seems that the Millennium class ships that haver been Revolutionized (Millennium, Summit) had a little more done such as the bathroom shower but the S class ships are newer and their bathrooms already a step above the older M class ships. Appreciate you taking the time to inform me.

Was wondering if anyone here might have some knowledge on a question of mine regarding "Revolutionizing" on the Equinox.

From pictures that I am able to see it appears that cabins in the Concierge level and higher got new carpeting.  Scant pictures that I can find seem to show the same old carpet in Verandah rooms.  Is that correct?  Looking at the Revolutionization on ships like the Millennium and Summit it does not appear from what I have been able to see that the verandah cabins on Equinox were upgraded at all.  Anyone that give me more information about this either confirming or correcting my ideas, would be greatly appreciated.

On 5/27/2020 at 3:36 PM, HappyCamper49 said:

I totally agree with you!  Loved the "proper" size table on the balcony; enjoyed having b'fast and evening drinks and snacks.  New carpeting and bedding is not what I call a revolution!

It would not bother me in the least if they didn't call it a revolution - or call it anything for that matter.  But new carpeting, bedding, bathroom ditching the organism laden shower curtain, is much more important to me than Celebrity spending loads of money on various bars and other spots that are typically in far better condition than the staterooms anyway.

3 hours ago, Gracie115 said:

 

 

We love the M class ships too, but they are older and tired and definitely need some changes.  The last time we were on Connie which was a couple of years ago the balcony area was rusting, the shower was horrible, the room was tired.  We LOVE what we've seen on the Millie and Summit refurbs.  I will say the "chair" they have placed in some of the rooms instead of the small sofa/loveseat looks stupid but everything else looked great.

 

Just our opinion, the good thing is with the postponement of the refurb on Connie & Infinity there's something for everyone to like in the "M" class.  

Agree with you fully on wanting the refurbishment.  I know everyone is entitled to their preference but it is hard for me to believe people prefer a beat up cabin to one with a new bathroom, beds, and carpet.  I also agree with you that since some M class ships have been revolutionized and some haven't it still leaves people to choose which they like.  The only problem is if one was interested in say doing Panama Canal cruise as part of a bucket list, there is no choice right now away to selecting a revolutionized ship.

2 hours ago, Chrisclaire said:

Hi

We are due to sail in Oct from Rome.

I'm not sure about FCC, but we have been advised by Celebrity that we can transfer our deposit to a different cruise.

Unfortunately the sail with confidence didn't suit us, as they could only offer a choice of 5 cruises, none if which suited us.

Not sure where you are located, but the UK terms appear to be different!

Thanks for your input.  First, to answer your question we are in Florida.  Secondly, I am confused. You say your cruise booked is in October but when I read the info on Cruise with Confidence it seems to only apply to cancelling cruises up until September.  We did have a booking for the cruise from Venice to Barcelona and the on to Tampa but cancelled that quite a while back. Have the Christmas Panama Canal Touch but we would back out if we get word that there will be no Revolution done to the Constellation. Highly unlikely that it happens.  

43 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said:

 

Check out the Cruise with Confidence FAQ's.  I believe you can get a 100% FCC for a NRD prior to final payment.

Thanks.  Appreciate the heads up.

21 minutes ago, D C said:

 

We're once and done on the Edge for the reasons you mentioned.  The infinite verandas are gimmicky and a nuisance to use.  We wouldn't book one again.  We really felt bad for the crew working the Sunset Bar.  Not a lick of shade back there on some days.  It's like they tacked the bar on as an afterthought.  

 

As for Port Everglades, we simply don't stay there pre-cruise.  More often than not, we can find much cheaper flights into Orlando, and hotels are plentiful and much cheaper than either FLL or MIA.   We stay in Orlando and drive to Port Everglades first thing the next morning.  Cheaper hotel + rental car has yet to be more $$ than staying near the port.  

Have to agree with you concerning the IVs on the Edge.  Tried it once.  When trying to describe it to a friend, I described it as an Oceanview room but with wall to wall, floor to ceiling expansive window, with being able to open the window down half way.  But, it is not a balcony.  Now, I did say that in certain cases, like for instance maybe a cold weather cruise like Norway, Alaska, etc., it might be a good choice as it would provide great views and a balcony on those types of cruises would not be used much anyway.

But we do not foresee ever setting foot on the Edge or similar ship.  At least not in an IV cabin.

Does anyone know if one can get a FCC for a non-refundable deposit from Celebrity?  We are booked on the Connie for Dec 23 but would like to switch to another cruise if it will not be Revolutionized before then.  Heck it may not even sail then if they into the cold dry dock.

Question to those who may have mentioned transferring their booking from Dec 2020 to Dec 2021.  I notice that for the 2021 sailing, Celebrity is not calling it a "Panama Canal Touch" but rather some generic Southern Holiday or whatever.  So does anyone know if in 2021 Celebrity will not be penetrating the Canal with the ship but just stay docked in Colon?

58 minutes ago, Luv2Crus40 said:

Hopefully by the time they revolutionize the Constellation, they will correct the miss-steps they  made to the other "M" class ships like the Summit.  I believe they have put tables back in the veranda rooms so you don't have to drag the balcony table in to eat. (See posts about Summit's revolutionization to see what I mean.)  We sailed shortly after the Summit was revolutionized and most of it was okay, but I don't like the "IKEA" look and all the sharp angles on furniture plus the uncomfortable chairs in the restaurants, bars, etc.  I'm the odd one out but I'm hoping we sail on a non-revolutionized ship on our Constellation cruise this December.  [I do have to admit though that the new beds and glass shower doors are really nice.]

You mention two things that are game breakers for me.  Sleeping in those old beds and getting into those old showers with curtains not something I am interested when spending good money.  That same money easily gets newer, more comfortable cabins on another ship.  Just would like a definitive word as to the Revolution on Constellation timing so as to decide which cruise to drop or book.

Vitamin, apparently they have used various shipyards around the world for the Revolutionizations that they have done so far and I cannot quickly find specifically which port or shipyard it might be done.  I notice now, that although they no longer show a date (used to say May 2020 for Constellation) it does say "Coming Soon"

https://www.celebritycruises.com/cruise-ships/celebrity-revolution

Also this is a relatively recent article discussing refurbishments in general:

https://www.maritime-executive.com/editorials/shipbuilding-faces-uncertain-waters

We are considering switching a Holiday cruise on the Constellation to another ship if we find out that the Revolution will not happen before then.

49 minutes ago, dabear said:

On the flip side, it would be a lot cheaper to update an m class ship and easier to fill than building another Apex size ship. Travel demand on cruises (except for pax using their fcc before 2022 for 2020 cancelled cruises) may be less for a few years. 

I was also wondering if Celebrity had already ordered/paid for some of the refurbishment?  I assume they had clauses put in where they could cancel, but assume some money would still be lost if they cancelled the whole refurbishment.  And, like you say much cheaper than building a whole new ship.

9 hours ago, canderson said:

They certainly haven't discounted the fare since we booked in December.  It's actually up just a bit.

 

We noticed the same thing.  We booked in late November.  Wish we knew for sure whether the refurbishment would happen and when but I guess the company itself doesn't know that for sure.