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3 hours ago, Scout16 said:

The concerns listed on this topic and several other what if topics are guessing at what will change, I think it may be best to wait and see what does change before worrying about the changes. 

This - excellent advice - no point in worrying until we know the facts.

5 minutes ago, jjs217 said:

Okey-dokey.

Read the press releases from Regent - its all in there.

2 minutes ago, jjs217 said:

I understand there will be cuts across the line, but I doubt it will be evenly distributed among the line.  You can't get blood from a turnip.  You can, however, serve a lower quality complimentary caviar, champagne, steak, etc. etc.  I am a Regent fan and will not stop cruising on Regent, even if they serve Cook's....................well, maybe I went too far.

Regent steak is a drop in the bucket compared to the sheer amount of stuff consumed/wasted on ships with 6K guests. While NCLH makes a ton off Regent guests on a per guest basis, they spend a lot more on NCL than Regent even with the fare disparity and that volume creates opportunities to cut staff, consumption and fuel usage.

21 minutes ago, jjs217 said:

Sorry - not convinced.  

It's OK - my source is the Investor day data that was released as well as quarterly SEC filings. It is easily verifiable online. We are seeing this across the industry...it will be a few years before the cruise lines recover.

Just now, jjs217 said:

Unfortunately, that is not the way it's going to work.  The main line ships are pretty much cut to the bone to start with as everything is pay as you go.  That only leaves the mid and luxury lines to feel the cuts.

The cuts are across the board....with fuel, staff, quantity of food waste and marketing being the top areas being cut.

5 minutes ago, chamima said:

 

 

Certain costs are fixed for the cruiselines.

 I  think the profit margin on the luxury lines is higher and it would be unwise business practice to lose those customers.

The profit margin is much higher but is still a small part of the overall picture. As long as the rooms are filled, and they are in record numbers, one could argue they might feel it is necessary to create new customers to replace those who will no longer be sailing. This is why they are marketing to much younger guests now.

4 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

Thanks — that is helpful perspective. But if Regent loses its differentiation, I'm gone.

I think many would but the issue is that the grass isn't greener elsewhere.

15 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

From the WSJ article:

The Miami-based company behind the Norwegian, Regent Seven Seas and Oceania cruise lines is also planning to slash $300 million in costs by 2026, with $100 million in reductions coming this year. “We are maniacally focused on that,” Chief Financial Officer Mark Kempa said of deleveraging the balance sheet.

“We’re trying to eliminate waste from the business, and that could be from anywhere,” he said. “There are no sacred cows.”

Don’t you think that the $300M in “maniacally focused” cuts with “no sacred cows” will likely include highly experienced, and therefore higher paid, staff? Better cuts of meat? More enjoyable wines? Excursions with less pan-handling by the tour operators? (Maybe that’s just a Mexico thing.) Included dry cleaning and laundry? Etc. etc. . . . death by a thousand paper cuts.

$300 million over 30 months is $10M a month divided by 32 ships owned by NCLH is about $10K per day per ship......not a big number anymore.

On 5/31/2024 at 3:11 PM, Mike Moore said:

I’m sure there is too. 😉 I thoroughly enjoyed my time there, love the brand and the product, and wish them nothing but success.

I have nothing but good things to say about Mike. 

I heard that Regent eliminated the position as a cost cutting measure.

18 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Agree in general about the net benefits of capitalism, but aren’t you concerned that NCL’s cuts will reduce Regent’s differentiation in the marketplace, and thus the premium Regent can charge? I see forum threads about Regent vs. Explora and Ritz Carlton Yacht Collection, and it makes me wonder whether we’ll be migrating to those lines because of cuts to Regent’s service and amenities.

BTW the WSJ article is here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/norwegian-cruise-line-looks-to-cut-costs-and-debtno-sacred-cows-738ed418

Not at all worried as this is bigger than Regent. This is about NCLH survival and prosperity in a market vs. RCL and Carnival. (who are also implementing such changes). Occupancy is at all time highs and I believe that Regent's product is better than the competition. Remember, although I am a paying guest, I travel on all lines for "work".

2 hours ago, Steve Q said:

Today’s WSJ has an article about Norwegian cutting costs both this year and in the future. They have evidently identified $100 million in immediate cuts and are working on $200 million in additional cuts. They are trying to pay down the outstanding debt on the books of the company. The Company also states that there will be “No Sacred Cows”.

Good - this is exactly what they should be doing. Their fist obligation is to their stockholders and, cuts notwithstanding, their occupancy levels are at all time highs.

1 hour ago, papaflamingo said:

Like last time they'll likely upgrade the decor to the new look.  Doubt they'll do much more than that.  Not sure what else they CAN do in only a few weeks. 

Might be a little restaurant surprise...

1 hour ago, jjs217 said:

I have no children, so no grandchildren, and I have to admit, I'm old enough not to even have any great grandchildren.  You would have to pay me to step on board an NCL ship.  

It is definitely an age thing. I go to clubs and concerts and stay up until 3AM, etc.

Nice that we have choices though....🙂

4 hours ago, ChucktownSteve said:

That's what makes the status levels irrelevant to us as well. Our sweet spot is 14 to 18 night cruises.  However the number of nightly tier levels, regardless of cabin category, are so high that only the true loyalists achieve the higher levels.  We like the Concierge and Penthouse levels which are not beneficial to accumulate Society status however they do include some of the perks of higher levels.

 

We've only sailed one NCL cruise in the late 1980's thus any reciprocal status from Regent could not convince us to sail them especially if we were a higher level Society member.

 

I'm wondering if you sail Regent, why would people want to drop down to a mass market cruise line? So is this combination really an incentive?

I am Titanium and I also travel many other lines because I am interested in things that Regent doesn't offer. I would travel on NCL more with this program.

3 hours ago, Henk123 said:

They don't know what to do with the Voyager it seems.

We had a 12/17/2025 Cruise from Barcelona to Dubai. then it became a 12/23/2025 because they had a dry dock sheduled before it. Now the drydock is gone and it is 12/19/2025.

And they had to change the intinary 2 times and I think it will be done again because of Israel and the Red Sea.

And we still have the rumours that Voyager will leave for a new ship.

 

 

You don't drydock (extensive changes) a ship and then sell it. Voyager and Mariner should be getting similar upgrades...but this leaves the fate of the Navigator up in the air.

36 minutes ago, papaflamingo said:

On a new ship it's likely the latter and likely needs a major adjustment.  If all the suites in a specific category have an identical problem then it is a design problem from the shipyard and likely beyond the capabilities of the crew at sea. 

This is what I was told when I enquired of a friend on board.

2 hours ago, Wise Consumer said:

Yes, we “chose” to move to the other room because we had gotten zero sleep for two nights leading up to our bringing it to their attention.  “Choice” between sleep and no sleep is a no brainer don’t you think?  I take offense at your accusation that we were just “complainers.”  I would never taken the time to make such a detailed and lengthy complaint if the Suite was not uninhabitable as stated clearly in my post.  To put it even more clearly, if the ship was sold out and there were no other rooms, we would have disembarked at the first available port.  I’m sorry if you are a Regent Loyalist and you are offended, but the entire point is that they advertise themselves as a “6 Star” experience and they are barely 5 Star.

I didn't accuse you of anything nor did I post any opinion at all.. I asked you to clarify your original post so I could better understand what happened.

1 minute ago, Wise Consumer said:

Since we could not use our Seven Seas Suite, but were lucky enough to have a bottom tier room available, I think the fair thing Regent should have offered us a refund in the difference of the Seven Seas Suite we paid for and the room we used.  Also, a “refund,” not a credit towards a future cruise to be redeemed within a year.

In you first post, you said you chose to sleep in another room because it was quieter. Did Regent move you out of the suite permanently or did you have use of 2 rooms?

34 minutes ago, mnocket said:

I've read reports of the various door problems before, including resorting to duct tape.  These don't seem to me to insurmountable problems that can only be addressed during drydock. I'd save a portion of your ire for the ship's executives in addition to the corporate ones.  Persistent issues such as you, and others, have experienced should be priority issues for the ship's executives. It seems they are not.

Retrofitting malfunctioning sliding doors in multiple suites is probably a drydock issue. I am sure the ship's senior crew have reported it...not much else they can do.

I would travel more on NCL if my Titanium status transferred over...instead of RCL or other lines.

13 hours ago, baybridge said:

Because i like to be prepared for as many contingencies as possible.  i like to know what to expect and how to handle the issue.

I think his point is that is isn't your issue. There is little you can do. Regent won't talk to you about a guest and Canada won't talk to you about another person. If he is caught, Regent will not help him break the law. He has to fix this on his own...or deal with the repercussions on his own.

4 hours ago, papaflamingo said:

I suspect it would be a difficult thing to do as Sette Mari uses the kitchen and it would require a number of additional crew members to both cook as well as serve.  I think that's the real reason they did away with the Pool Grill being open for dinner.  Not enough use to justify the crew necessary. 

That plus they put on 4 extra crew and had to put them in 2 guest staterooms...loss of revenue.

1 hour ago, SWFLAOK said:

Actually, Splendor, Explorer and Grandeur will match our needs, and will most likely cost less than the new ships. And I'm happy to know that you and many others love the type of Italian food, and the service in Setta Mari, since that will mean fewer people in Compass Rose where we almost always dine.

The variety of human experience is wonderful. We have not eaten in CR in our last 6 cruises. 

14 minutes ago, Kwaj girl said:

 

Source of these comments?

The only source so far is "unofficial comments from crew/staff/employees" and probably will not be attributed. I can't speak for anyone else but I try extremely hard to only post things that come to be. 

2 minutes ago, GMIAC said:

Maybe it’s a small dry dock then. We were told on Grandeur two weeks ago during the future cruises presentation that it’d be in dry dock a year from then. 

April 8 to April 20.