MericaAR15

Wow...

I guess we wait until RCI gives us details.  Personally, I expect a full refund.

1 hour ago, ReneeFLL said:

My logic isn't flawed. If the windows and balconies weren't safe then sure, but they are. They become unsafe when someone does something stupid. I'm talking about when someone is reported as being drunk then Royal needs to pay attention. Do I really think Royal should have to do this? Of course not. As I said before people should take responsibility for their own actions but often they don't. You have read about Chloe haven't you?

Yes, your logic is flawed.  You basically stated that RCI should pay more attention/take action to avoid potential lawsuits. 

Windows and balconies aren't safe; people have fallen, intentionally or otherwise, which resulted in great bodily harm, up to and including death.  Therefore, RCI should take action to prevent this, right?

Yes, of course I've read about the little girl.  It was 100% the grandfather's fault, not RCIs.

5 hours ago, ReneeFLL said:

Someone eating to much isn't going to hurt others around them and I would think there wouldn't be any lawsuits against Royal if they did.

 

This is why I was saying the bartenders should have cut him off. "slurring his words, difficulty ambulating ,". It sounds like he wouldn't be able to think straight and could possibly hurt himself.

 

I'm all about people accepting responsibility for their actions and I would normally say it should be on the drinker (which it should be). The only reason I think Royal should pay more attention to this is because of lawsuits. I don't think people should be able to sue for their stupid actions, but unfortunately that's the world we live in today. Case in point is the Chloe Weigand situation. I'm not saying this would happen with this particular case, I'm just saying in general.

 

I hope it was just this one incident with this young man and if not then I hope he gets the help he needs to asap. Sorry for the op's vacation being ruined. 

Following your logic, RCI needs to permanently close all windows and board up all balconies because they are facing a lawsuit due to the inappropriate actions of a passenger.  I mean, you'd hate to see them facing litigation due to passenger misconduct, so we should go ahead and cut that off, right?  

Here's a pro tip: a company that's as successful and profitable as Royal Caribbean has lawyers on staff for a reason, and they're typically in a far better position than most individuals/families to deal with questionable litigation.

You cannot possibly have enough rules or laws in place to prevent people from taking legal action, and attempting to do so would adversely affect everyone else (read: the overwhelming majority of their customers).

2 minutes ago, blueridgemama said:

 

15 alcoholic drinks in one day is a punishment?

It can be, depending on the individual.  Why should your feelings get to dictate someone else's reality?  Can it just be an individual decision?

Why would RCI need to change their policy to accommodate the behavior of a lush? This might be a shocking idea to some, but maybe we can lean towards individual responsibility and accountability.

The last thing we need is another rule or law adversely impacting the responsible majority in an attempt to save the irresponsible minority from themselves.

1 hour ago, jakeil7 said:

I think I can answer the second item:  there is a market area where they work. It is VERY clear where they are and easy to avoid if you are not interested. Unless you are talking about the RCI staff trying to sell you drinks, but that’s a different story 😁

1 hour ago, gdy0354 said:

Easiest way to avoid local vendors is to take the FREE trolley that goes thru vendor area without stopping on the way to Columbus Cove beach area from main entrance.

 

13 minutes ago, blueridgemama said:

 

Cups will already be in your room.

if you end up near the vendors and you are not interested just keep walking, don't interact verbally other than saying "no thank you"

Thanks for the info!

Awesome thread and pics, as always!

Two random questions you might be able to answer:

1. Where did you get the reusable cup that comes with the DBP?  Do they just put the applicable number of cups in your stateroom or do you have to procure them from somewhere?

2. I have read about overly aggressive vendors on Labadee. Where are they located?  I would like to avoid that area altogether.

11 minutes ago, mr walker said:

I made no judgement on his appearance, just that wearing that shirt was funny last century and that now it's not.

1. There is a correlation between his appearance and attempt at humor, so stating that you did not judge him based on appearance is disingenuous.

2. Humor is subjective.

3. Again, who made you the arbiter of humor?

15 hours ago, mr walker said:

You were trying to show how funny you were with lame humour from last century. Pointing that out was wrong?????

One man's trash is another man's treasure.  Who made you the arbiter of humor?

Also, is that you in your profile picture?  If so, do I get to judge you based on your appearance?

I just love dress code/suggestion threads!

5 hours ago, hotsauce126 said:

 

Edit: duplicate post

4 hours ago, hotsauce126 said:

Any recommendations for drinks that don't have a pound of sugar in them? 

Dirty Martini (gin, vermouth, olive juice)

A REAL Margarita sans mix (tequila, triple sec, fresh squeezed lime juice, and maybe some agave nectar or simple syrup if you must)

Ah, I think you'll just need to be patient then until Royal decides to grace you with the opportunity to book your shows.

I have friends and family on your cruise. Good luck!

It sounds like a technical issue.  I'm assuming you're on the March 29th sailing (so are we), and I booked our shows about a month or so ago.  I was also just on the cruise planner since they moved one of our bookings; it allowed me to view and alter bookings.

Try calling Royal to see if they can help you out.

18 hours ago, HalfHand said:

IMO, either ignore all the rules and suggested behavior and dress codes or follow them all. It even relates to everyday life, you don't get to say, "The first amendment gives me the right of free speech so I'll say what I want", then try to stop me from exercising my 2nd amendment rights because you don't like that one.

 

On RCL, on certain nights, there is a suggested dress code. If you don't want to follow it then eat in the buffet or cruise NCL which has no dress code. The excuse that it cramps your style, and "It's MY vacation I'll wear what I want" is a load of BS, unless you are going to excuse the chair hogs and the folks smoking on their balconies. "It's THEIR vacation too, why can't they behave like they want?" I know the answer to this, they can't because it offends YOU! The people here saying dress more appropriately are asking you to because your behavior is offending them. You don't get to say, "too bad", not and continue to be a part of the society on board that ship. RCL not enforcing their rules or suggestions isn't an excuse. Following rules, and doing your best to co-exist peacefully with others is called being an Adult, the problem is being an Adult about stuff has gone the same way as Common Sense. It's getting really hard to find in the wild. Meanwhile the folks acting like petulant children are taking over the show.  

 

The rules and suggestions are there so EVERYONE has an opportunity to co-exist peacefully. By their very nature there will be rules YOU don't like, and ones I don't like, but if none of us thinks we are just so much of an extra special snowflake that we should get to do what we want, then everyone can enjoy themselves.

 

 

 

Your analogies are exceedingly poor and suggest a gross misunderstanding of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

3 minutes ago, Tulsacoker said:

3 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Come on man, if ya got it (according to you) flaunt it. 

I don't want to get banned for making folks blind.  From my fabulousness, of course.

Not to go too far into the weeds here, but there really are some good natured, humorous and helpful people here on CC.  I've thoroughly enjoyed researching my cruise.

1 minute ago, Tulsacoker said:

Sorry but that is for us to judge 😄 

I'm grabbing some baby oil and will post pics shortly!*

*not really

4 minutes ago, Jeff&Mel said:

I really don't care what others wear-with the exception of swimwear in the MDR.   I was just teasing 🙂

 

I think we both enjoyed a little bit of fun 😉

Heck, we have the UDP and don't even plan on eating in the MDR.  I do look fabulous in a speedo though...

2 minutes ago, Jeff&Mel said:

I'm just curious, does having a dress code equate to lack of Freedom?  🙂

No, of course not, as a dress code is simply a rule put in place by a private entity.  One can choose to patronize that entity or not.

Some people do take umbrage with others dressing a certain way, even though the private entity allows it, thus appearing to shun freedom of choice.

Also, you appear to enjoy the company of subjects over free citizens, per your own anecdote.

3 minutes ago, Tulsacoker said:

 

 

Might want to dive into the cultural difference in swim attire.... Some overweight Europeans seem to think speedos look good. 

No, thank you.  I much rather concern myself with what my party is wearing, while allowing others to enjoy the freedom of doing the same with their group.  Freedom is pretty cool; some people should try it.

7 minutes ago, Jeff&Mel said:

Has the dress code changed or is it not being enforced?

 

We have only cruised 7 times.  Six cruises were in Europe.  It was wonderful!  People actually dressed for dinner!  Which of course I love to do.  and the dress code was enforced!!

 

We cruised 5 years ago in the U.S.  I couldn't believe how people dressed in the MDR.  I was very disappointed that the dress code was not enforced....  We only eat in specialty restaurants and the MDR for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  Never in the Windjammer.  I do not want to see people in their bathing suits while I eat.

 

I was appalled that people were allowed in the MDR for breakfast half naked.... It really was disgusting.  

 

I have finally decided to try cruising again the States.  I am hoping that the time of year we are going will yield an older crowd with people that might actually have some etiquette 🙂 

Wow, that's so weird!  It's almost like there are cultural differences between Europe and the USA!

I've been assured by several people on this board that your level of class and respect is directly proportional with how dressed up you are.

No matter what you do, people will be silently judging you, so it's probably best to just have a drink or two and proudly be yourselves.

This has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism. Stop projecting.

I wear a full suit and tie at all times so as not to disrespect others.  I could not live with myself if random strangers thought poorly of my choice of attire.

But seriously, I'm having a really hard time understanding how someone is being "disrespectful" by dressing to their preference. Furthermore, where do you arbitrarily draw the line? Do people in a tux get to look down on those in a suite?  If your tux isn't hand made with the finest threads, do you have to go stand in the corner with the rest of the losers?

I think people just like to be offended, and some people aren't truly happy unless they're miserable.

This entire thread is best summed up with "Stop liking things I don't like!".

CBD oil containing less than 0.3 percent THC is legal at a federal level in the US, and the TSA has updated their policy to allow travel with the federally legal CBD products.

It is, however, against RCIs policy to bring CBD products onto their ships.

6 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

I hope we have we haven't devolved into a culture that determines right and wrong by what rules are enforced most strictly.  

No, we have "evolved" into a culture that determines class and respect by what clothes are worn during dinner on vacation.