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    Ocala, Florida
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    Celebrity, Holland America
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  1. Interesting that you did not give the figures for California and New York which you will find much higher than Florida per capita. I never stated that Florida was without cases and deaths. I simply stated that a state that never implemented draconian protocols had better results than the states that did implement draconian protocols. If that is the case then what would be the reasoning to have draconian protocols in the first place?
  2. I provided facts. If I am considered a "denier" for those facts then so be it. I guess I'm denying your version of the facts. I would argue that Jacobson vs Massachusetts would not apply in that the promoter of the concert is not an elected government entity. Setting excessive pricing for one group of people over another group would be arbitrary and capricious and, I believe , would fall under the equal access clause of the 14th amendment.
  3. No luck about it. All of their individual immune systems did the job they were born to do, protect from viruses and bacteria. Just stop a moment and review. 500,000 people died from the virus. 329,500,000 did not die, most did not even get sick and all without a vaccine. This means that 0015% of the population died from the virus and/or comorbidities that they already suffered from. 99.9985% either did not get the virus or fought it off naturally. I venture to say that more people die from accidents in the US every year than from this virus. 😎
  4. This is in violation of the Equal Access Clause of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. I doubt that this promoter is seriously considering this or has implemented it.
  5. Where is your proof that the infection rate in Florida for Covid-19 was the among the highest in the nation? It's certainly lower per capita than the states that did the draconian lockdowns like California and New York. Florida has been basically open for over a year while many other states continue to be locked down for over a year. Fail to see where you are a little more enlightened. 🤔
  6. Cruising is something that you plan months and sometimes years in advance. It requires a lot of planning especially for longer cruises and the payment of large sums of money. Even when there comes a time when all ships are allowed to cruise once again and the cruise lines are still around, will potential passengers want to cruise with draconian regulations in place irrespective of the threat from this virus? Do folks want to cruise so bad that they would put up with these regulations? Incessant testing, masks, social distancing, venues either closed or severely regulated, mandated shore excurs
  7. Surprise. Actually received our full refund back to our credit card yesterday. Over 4 months but at least it's been returned. However, not planning on anymore cruises. This virus never bothered me but it's the thought of having to put up with all of the nonsensical restrictions imposed by the CDC that turns me off. And, don't think anything will change for months and maybe years. Also, most of the cruise lines must be on the brink of bankruptcy about now. Thanks for the concern. 🙂
  8. I actually had Travel Insurance for both of us. So, let's see, Hal cancelled our cruise and so far there is little expectation of ever receiving a refund. At least the way I look at it. As such I believe that the Travel Insurance should cover it unless the Insurance Company somehow has something in unreadable print without a magnifying glass that prevents them from complying. I would not think there is a statute of limitations on when one can file a claim. My credit card bank also has asked that I submit a claim through them and they will review it.
  9. I really don't see how my credit card company can help much. Can you advise? 🤔
  10. Hard for me to believe that HAL will be solvent for another 18 weeks much less another 18 months. Why would they tell good customers that they will refund their money within 90 days and then not refund their money within 90 days? My refund has already gone over 100 days and still nothing concrete from HAL although I have followed up twice with them. All you get is "just be patient". I am already planning on never receiving my refund and moving on with my life.
  11. I'm not an attorney however I know enough to realize that if the refund policy does not contain a specific length of time in writing then they could take as long as they wish to effect refunds. Just because customer service states that refunds will be within a 90 day period is pretty meaningless. Especially when no verbal commitment is made past telling you that we will do our best to refund your money within 90 days. Stockholders, banks, and accountants basically control refunds. To remain solvent the value of a company's assets must be greater than the sum of its debt obligations. Refunds ar
  12. There are two basic reasons that we will probably not cruise again for a very long time if ever: * We are not interested in paying good money to travel on a hospital ship with draconian medical regulations. * We are worried about losing our payment due to the very real possibility of bankruptcy for some of these lines. Since the draconian regulations will probably remain in place long after this virus is history we will find other things to do with our time.
  13. I suppose it is. Although have no idea why they would split up the refund. Guess I will wait until 90 days are up and contact them again with hoping they haven't forgotten about us. Due to the selling off and scrapping of ships, to include all of the negative news regarding current monetary status for the cruise industry with a few bankruptcies already, I am somewhat worried about HAL all of a sudden declaring bankruptcy. I seriously don't know how these companies are going to continue to survive with no income for the rest of 2020. The American airlines would have gone bankrupt in a month if
  14. Have people been receiving refunds in a timely manner? We did get an initial refund of $480 although we paid just under $1,800 for the cabin. Notified HAL and they stated the balance would be forthcoming. It has now been two weeks short of 90 days and have not gotten the balance. They never told me why I only received $480 out of $1,800. Doesn't seem to make sense.
  15. It's commonly know as simple mathematics. 160,000 deaths divided by 330 million people is 0.0045%. Use a calculator if you must. 0.0045% is one of the lowest per capita percentages. Deaths by disease annually in the US: Heart 650,000, Cancer 600,000, Respiratory 160,000, Stroke 150,000, Unintentional Injuries 170,000. Of course this is not counting the amount of deaths and destruction caused by shutting out country and economy down and the millions of people's live ruined in the interim. If you want to worry to death about the mostly elderly people with chronic conditions that would have
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