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  1. It's nice that Royal Caribbean has finally caught up to some of the other cruise lines that have been allowing mixed mRNA doses pretty much all along, based on the exact same CDC guidance. This also bodes well for Canadians with mixed mRNA doses who want to enter the US for any reason, once the new vaccination requirements come into effect. Now if they could just sort out the AstraZeneca situation...
  2. Reasonable guess, but actually it was self-serve a couple of weeks ago, in the beverage area at Chill Grill. Not that I used it - I'm not a beer drinker - but it was there, screen was on, and no staff "guarding" it. Beverages in general (water/juice/pop) were self-serve at Chill Grill while we were there. Ice cream was staffed, as were beverages at the Snack Shack in the thrill park. YMMV.
  3. I don't know about your particular cruise, but in general, there have been lots of reports of low bids being accepted lately. Ours was... but then our cruise was only at about 12% capacity.
  4. The risks around cruising right now are less about catching COVID itself, and more about your travel plans being disrupted because of shifting COVID protocols. If you are uncomfortable with the idea that almost anything could change, without warning, possibly forcing you to cancel your cruise, then a land vacation might be a better bet for you. Although it's worth pointing out that even with land vacations, nothing is certain. We are leaving for our cruise tomorrow. In the six weeks since I booked it, we have had to deal with one of us magically becoming "unvaccinated" (that is, I was vaccinated according to their policy at the time I booked, and then suddenly I wasn't), uncertainty around the border reopening (we also planned to drive to New Jersey "if the border reopened" - it didn't), and a significant change in on-board protocols (we booked with the understanding that the cruise would be mask-free; there is now an indoor mask mandate). And then there's the paperwork. I have an entire duotang filled with printed travel documents for my family: travel attestation forms for our flight to New York, vaccination records, negative test results, Bahamian Health Visas. Not to mention the mild anxiety over test results; I was fully confident that none of us actually have COVID, but false positives on antigen tests have been known to happen, and the consequences for our cruise if it did were not good. (Luckily, all negative.) Point is, I am stubborn and determined enough to roll with the changes and find a way to make it work - although I'm not sure I'll really believe we're going until we're actually on the ship! But for most people, the stress is probably not worth it.
  5. No. There are a couple of "exceptional situations" in which they recommend proceeding with mixed mRNA doses. The exception conditions, for what little it's worth, are exactly the conditions under which most Canadians received mixed mRNA doses (namely, the unavailability of a second dose of the original product leading to a vaccination interval longer than 48 days). Regardless of the reason why you've received mixed doses, you're considered fully vaccinated. You can't just quote the first sentence of the paragraph and then go on to ignore the rest. "If two doses of different mRNA COVID-19 vaccine products are administered in these situations (or inadvertently), no additional doses of either product are recommended at this time. Such persons are considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 ≥2 weeks after receipt of the second dose of an mRNA vaccine." These guidelines were not written to inform public policy. If you're an American vaccine administrator following the CDC clinical guidelines, which is the intended audience, then the described situations or "inadvertent" cover all possible scenarios. You're either following the guidelines, or you're not. If you're not, then the document is moot. The point is that if someone shows up in your clinic and has already has two different mRNA doses, regardless of the reason, they are considered "fully vaccinated", clinically speaking, and you shouldn't give them another dose. At this point it's all kind of irrelevant in the context of the cruise lines' policies though. They are all pointing to the same set of guidelines, and drawing different conclusions, or somehow getting different answers from the CDC. Probably the same as when we ask the cruise lines to clarify their policies and the answers are all over the place. The answer depends on when, how, and to whom the question is asked.
  6. Well, the CDC actually does agree that mixed mRNA doses are to be considered fully vaccinated. They are quite clear about that in their clinical considerations guidelines. But for some reason some (not all) of the cruise lines seem to have gotten a different memo.
  7. It varies. DCL is explicit: "Guests who have received one dose of Moderna and one dose of Pfizer are considered fully vaccinated, per CDC guidelines." (Funny how Royal Caribbean cites those very same guidelines as the reason they don't accept mixed mRNA doses, but I digress.) Princess also considers mixed mRNA to be fully vaccinated. NCL and RCCL say no to mixed mRNA for US departures, but yes for non-US departures, with the caveat on Royal of specific allowable intervals that seems to be RCCL's very own made-up requirement. Haven't checked the others.
  8. The short answer to that is that Royal Caribbean is making it up. I assume that it is roughly based on manufacturer's recommended intervals, but they're not enforcing the same recommendations for same-manufacturer doses, and the manufacturer's recommendations don't apply to mixed doses anyway, so... it's basically arbitrary. But pointing this out to them does not seem to have had any effect, so we're rolling with it. 🙃
  9. Standardized system, maybe? The interval doesn't matter for US cruises or same-manufacturer doses, but RCL's policy on mixed doses out of non-US ports does still come with an interval restriction (unfortunately). Likely they're just using a software system that requires both to be recorded?
  10. Found this post, thanks! I was trying for a single thread where people could find this information across cruise lines, but I'm not at all surprised that it has ended up in a related thread instead. 🙂 Sounds like you had a great trip; glad to hear it. We test tomorrow for departure from Nassau on Saturday. Fingers crossed all goes smoothly!
  11. I would say most likely any other province, although I can't speak to it firsthand. But all provinces have been giving vaccines to any resident, temporary or otherwise, with or without health coverage in the province. The last thing they want is to exclude or discourage someone from getting vaccinated just because they aren't locally documented. Just don't tell them it's a third dose.
  12. Could be. A friend in Montreal who still carries Ontario ID told me that they were utterly uninterested in her proof of residency, but that was for the first two shots. All I can say for sure is that in Gatineau I had to pull out that lease at least three times!
  13. They check. At least in Gatineau. I had "proof" of residency in the form of a signed and valid lease agreement.
  14. Thanks so much, that's very helpful. Enjoy the rest of your trip!
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