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The top one looks like a reflection perhaps ... The one below it looks like a sandbar ... The bottom one really does not look like a helicopter The stuff at the bottom of the image above is 100% a reflection on glass. Even a little bit of a zoom in shows that. Not saying that there wasn't churned up sand, but that picture 100% isn't showing it, only blue water and a reflection.

Sorry, what is irrelevant? If you want a scape goat, sure just blame the captain. He was responsible for the ship at the time it occured. But if you want to actually get to the bottom of what happened so you can make sure it doesn't happen again, it needs to be investigated. And my comments are in no way saying the Captain isn't responsible. All I am doing is pointing out that currently what has gone wrong is fairly murky, and the captain of the ship isn't the one who finalised the voyage or started it.

Yeah, which is what i said. I said he did not start the cruise, he picked it up from New Zealand. The why for this is really not important. It makes it more unclear as to where this has gone wrong, and really means that we need to wait on the investigation into it.

Ok, sure. But what I was really just saying was that even amongst the people actually on the cruise, there was different things that had been said. Another thing that makes the whole thing a bit murkier is that Captain Matt was not even the captain who started the cruise. Captain Matt only took over the ship after his 6 months holiday when the ship reached New Zealand. So he would have been handed a bunch of the cruise information as he came onboard, and he likely wasn't involved in the planning and preparation work for the cruise.

Guessing you where in a different Seating for the show. At the earlier session he said they were only contacted by the coast guard (not the Navy, as this really isn't the navy's job) once we were already leaving, and he didn't say we were within 300 feet.

Why would anyone in board have been injured? There was no immediate incident from what happened, it was just the ship was closer to the shore than it should have been. I just got off this cruise. Prior to the day it occured Captain Matt announced the ship was going to sail to that point, where they where allowed to be within 1000feet of shore, and do the turns. Apparently Captain Matt was contacted only once we started leaving the coast to be informed that we were too close. So the plans prior to the day where to be as close as we were, and he only got told afterwards not to be. This stop has been on the itinerary for months for this trip. As far as I can see the details where all confirmed by head office and set. Not sure where the breakdown has oxcured, or what laws it is that have been broken, so we really do need to wait for the investigations.

Hi all, So I've taken the linked pages to the Wayback Machine and I can see there have been no changes to the Suite info pages since September 2023. The info in there isn't new, it's what it's been since before Celebrity announced Butlers where returning. As far as I can tell with this latest kerfuffle, Celebrity has just linked to their old info pages and its gotten people in a tizzy. I personally wouldn't be worried until more information comes out, as the latest comms from Celebrity (including the President) is Butlers are coming back.