CROWN PRINCESS : March - April, 2018 Refurbishment

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#1
Tillsonburg, On, Canada
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Joined Sep 2007
Can anyone tell me what this refurbishment will entail ..... cannot find any details online. Trying to decide on this ship for a 10 day in November or the Celebrity Equinox for a 7 day in November. Was on the Equinox this past Oct/Nov & loved it.
Thanks.
#4
South Florida
5,849 Posts
Joined Apr 2011
Besides the normal below the waterline work (and presumably the Sea Witch livery painted on the bow) the following all have been repeatedly speculated on:

  • Complete the rollout of Princess Luxury Beds
  • Upgrade Kids/Teen clubs to new Discovery at Sea brand
  • Rebrand Sabatini's as Sabatini's Trattoria
  • Replace MUTS screen
  • Reupholster or replace as necessary tables and chairs in Horizon Court
  • Begin technical preparation for Ocean Medallion
  • General cleaning and replacement of carpet and soft furnishings in public lounges
The first three items above are near-certain as they were officially announced as going fleetwide long ago (plenty of info on them on the Princess website).

Most every ship that has been to drydock in the past year and a half has also gotten the new MUTS screen.

There was a post stating that it was shared onboard Crown earlier this year that Crown will not get the new dining venues that replaced Cafe Caribe on Caribbean Princess. And the rebranding/new menus for the Hamburger and Ice Cream stands seems to have stopped with two ships (Caribbean and Grand).

I would suggest booking the Crown knowing that you still would be before final payment should there be negative rather that postivie reviews of any changes or upgrades.
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Upgrades, Upsellls and Move Over Offers are completely different things.
As are being denied boarding and being disembarked early.
And don't get me started on Port Charges vs. Government Taxes, Fees, and Port Expenses.
The Jones Act is for cargo. The PVSA is "that terrible law" that restricts USA domestic sailings. But without which there would likely be no cruise ships with casinos, duty free shops, and international crew members willing to work fantastically hard every single day.
Lots of people fly in the morning of the cruise and catch crazy early flights home. Why ask us if you can? Just to be harassed by the regulars?
No hotels have free shuttles, free breakfast, free wifi, or free parking. You pay in the rate. And could have found a better deal paying by the piece.
And don't forget: the cruise line is in complete control of the weather, political unrest, medical emergencies, and anything else that delays or re-routes your cruise. Be sure to demand compensation as it is you and only you who were affected.
#6
New Jersey
643 Posts
Joined Jul 2011
I too will be on the April 3rd Transatlantic. I am really hoping that there do not change Sabatini's to the new menu. Tried the new menu last year on the CB and I prefer the old menu. I wish I had the short ribs over penne right now.
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#7
South Florida
5,849 Posts
Joined Apr 2011
Originally posted by mamasu
I too will be on the April 3rd Transatlantic. I am really hoping that there do not change Sabatini's to the new menu. Tried the new menu last year on the CB and I prefer the old menu. I wish I had the short ribs over penne right now.
In your Cruise Personalizer under the tab for booking specialty restaurants should be a link to the menu that will be in effect on your cruise. You can hope for the old rather than the new but I fear I have just become the bearer of bad news...
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Debarking is a cruel procedure done to dogs.
Upgrades, Upsellls and Move Over Offers are completely different things.
As are being denied boarding and being disembarked early.
And don't get me started on Port Charges vs. Government Taxes, Fees, and Port Expenses.
The Jones Act is for cargo. The PVSA is "that terrible law" that restricts USA domestic sailings. But without which there would likely be no cruise ships with casinos, duty free shops, and international crew members willing to work fantastically hard every single day.
Lots of people fly in the morning of the cruise and catch crazy early flights home. Why ask us if you can? Just to be harassed by the regulars?
No hotels have free shuttles, free breakfast, free wifi, or free parking. You pay in the rate. And could have found a better deal paying by the piece.
And don't forget: the cruise line is in complete control of the weather, political unrest, medical emergencies, and anything else that delays or re-routes your cruise. Be sure to demand compensation as it is you and only you who were affected.
#8
Whistler, BC
528 Posts
Joined Jun 2001
My Med cruise on the Crown - Sept 22, 2018 has Sabatini listed as specialty restaurant. Short rib on penne intact ��
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#9
Two Rivers, Wisc.
1,892 Posts
Joined Aug 2000
I'm booked on the Crown for Sept. 2019 Transatlantic, booked a different deck because of the refurbishment. When the Emerald was done, many of the inside cabins on Plaza were changed to connecting cabins and I was concerned they might do the same with the Crown.
#13
150 Posts
Joined Mar 2012
Originally posted by tanyaewa
My Med cruise on the Crown - Sept 22, 2018 has Sabatini listed as specialty restaurant. Short rib on penne intact ��
I will be on that cruise, too! 😎🎉🎈🍷
#14
San Diego, California
5,259 Posts
Joined Dec 2001
Originally the Crown was scheduled to, like the CB convert the Horizon Court to the il-conceived "Market Place", but based on the less than stellar results and reviews of the CB's Market Place conversion Princess in it's infinite wisdom like it's other recent decision not to add additional "Share"s or to butcher the Coral like the Island has canceled additional "Market Place" conversions to the Grand class fleet (thank god)...
Add the OM roll out fiasco to the above recent Princess snafu's, and it's seems recently that the decision making Princess senior leadership is not having a very good day

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#16
UK
2,649 Posts
Joined Aug 2004
Originally posted by srpilo
Originally the Crown was scheduled to, like the CB convert the Horizon Court to the il-conceived "Market Place", but based on the less than stellar results and reviews of the CB's Market Place conversion Princess in it's infinite wisdom like it's other recent decision not to add additional "Share"s or to butcher the Coral like the Island has canceled additional "Market Place" conversions to the Grand class fleet (thank god)...
Add the OM roll out fiasco to the above recent Princess snafu's, and it's seems recently that the decision making Princess senior leadership is not having a very good day

Srpilo
Apart from the obvious, the name what’s the difference between market place and horizon court
#17
San Diego, California
5,259 Posts
Joined Dec 2001
Originally posted by antsp
Apart from the obvious, the name what’s the difference between market place and horizon court
It still raises my blood pressure just to think about the insulting concept that I encountered on the CB and thatPrincess thought their passengers would except such a obvious money saving/ use left overs type venue ...
Of course all those who have never sailed on any other Princess ship, or never really used the HC before would even know the difference (IMO this was Princess's hope)

I promised myself, after my initial report last May on the CB in Europe that I would not be one of the type CC posters who continuously harps on the same dislike over and over.. So use the search function for last May and June for "Market Place" and you'll find plenty of descriptions and reviews

Lastly, I'm sure or at least I hope, if Princess hasn't already, that with all the complaints they must of received all season in Europe, that they have at least, when it comes to the menu's reverted a bit back to what frequent North American cruisers have come to expect on a Princess cruise - AKA less peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for diner and more traditional dinning fare .

YMMV
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#19
Long Island, New York
4,428 Posts
Joined Mar 2003
Originally posted by Superfragger
They will also be painting on the seawitch decal, apparently.
Don't like the decal at all! Looks cheap.
#20
Los Angeles
114 Posts
Joined Sep 2012
Originally posted by kendon
Don't like the decal at all! Looks cheap.
So true indeed. It's not classy at all. But then again does anyone remember when Sitmar painted that red & blue swan onto the Fairwind ? UGLY !