Any other Zumba fans?

[littlelovely21]

Happy Birthday Kasi I hope you have a fun filled weekend :)

So excited for Zumba tonight but it's hard to hold on to the excitement because I think I'm coming down with a cold :mad: We've had heavy winds coming in from every direction it seems and after going 3 years without getting a single sniffle I think it has finally found me! I'm gonna try and fight through it and take some meds tonight, but I don't want to miss class. I figured if I can make it through work I can make it through class.

[kasi1979]

Oh, catching a cold is not good, hope you feel better today.

Thanks for your birthday greetings, we had some friends over last night and I´m just now getting started with the new day.

Since I did not make it to Zumba last night, I took the liberty of heading to the gym yesterday which was opened last week.
Has anyone of you every tried a Power Plate? It´s a machine that vibrates and is said to intensify your workout extremly. Well, I just did a 15 minute routine and some cycling and already some muscles seem tired or even sore...

I´ve got to get going, meeting more friends this morning at the Zoo.
Take care.

[RQINFL]

I searched this thread for discussion of dvds, and found some general posts about using dvds, and questions about them, but could not find any info on which ones get good reviews.

Does anybody have any recommendations?

Thanks!~

[Anita Latte]

I searched this thread for discussion of dvds, and found some general posts about using dvds, and questions about them, but could not find any info on which ones get good reviews.

Does anybody have any recommendations?

Thanks!~
RQ...Sorry. I have only ever watched one Zumba DVD, which is the Cardio Party one that I received at my training. I can't offer comparisons.

Have you tried looking on YouTube to see previews? Reviews?

Zumba Exhilarate is the latest and greatest DVD SET...and it includes many different DVDs. Here is the YouTube channel for that set:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZumbaExhilarate?feature=watch

There are other previews etc on the Zumba Fitness Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/lovezumba?feature=watch

As for having a recommendation though...this is one topic of discussion that has been repeatedly asked about here, but no-one ever comes back to really talk about the DVDs.

Kasi knows about the game on the Wii though...interested in that?

[kasi1979]

Hi everyone,

so Anita, Pam, do you have you bags packed?
When are you heading for the port?

I swear I´m short of loosing my temper if anyone else asks me, if we are still going to cruise after the "Allegra incident". One would think it´s the first time that there has been a fire on a ship...

Anyways, I´m heading out to Zumba again tonight :) I hope Annie did not introduce too many new songs in the last two weeks...
I received a wii balance board for my birthday and have been doing some games on it for the last two days, seems to be fun.

[RQINFL]

Have you tried looking on YouTube to see previews? Reviews?

Zumba Exhilarate is the latest and greatest DVD SET...and it includes many different DVDs. Here is the YouTube channel for that set:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZumbaExh...?feature=watch

There are other previews etc on the Zumba Fitness Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/lovezumba?feature=watch

As for having a recommendation though...this is one topic of discussion that has been repeatedly asked about here, but no-one ever comes back to really talk about the DVDs.

Kasi knows about the game on the Wii though...interested in that?

I will check out the links. Not interested in Wii, as I don't have the system. Thank you for the info!

[cbergms]

I just stumbled on your zumba messages. I love zumba I do it once a week at a church near my house. We just booked a cruise in April and need to kick up my workouts before we go. I have been doing Sean T's Hip Hop Abs. I really like zumba and Hip Hop Abs. The dancing makes the workouts fly by.

Carolyn

[Bea_Bopp]

I just stumbled on your zumba messages. I love zumba I do it once a week at a church near my house. We just booked a cruise in April and need to kick up my workouts before we go. I have been doing Sean T's Hip Hop Abs. I really like zumba and Hip Hop Abs. The dancing makes the workouts fly by.

Welcome cbergms! I too have been kicking up my workouts for our departure in May.

Do you do Hip Hop Abs in a class or at home with a DVD? I'd never heard of it before but just found it on YouTube - looks good, I can see how it would be effective.

My Monday Zumba class takes up the full sports hall at our local sports centre and it's just getting bigger...and bigger... There must have been more than 100 women there on Monday:eek:. New people come every week. My only problem is that sometimes the less-confident/committed new people will stop dead if they can't follow the move, rather than keep moving. That can't be healthy for them, but also in a crowded hall we're in danger of a Zumba pile-up, like the elephants in the Disney Jungle Book film!:D

[cbergms]

Welcome cbergms! I too have been kicking up my workouts for our departure in May.

Do you do Hip Hop Abs in a class or at home with a DVD? I'd never heard of it before but just found it on YouTube - looks good, I can see how it would be effective.

My Monday Zumba class takes up the full sports hall at our local sports centre and it's just getting bigger...and bigger... There must have been more than 100 women there on Monday:eek:. New people come every week. My only problem is that sometimes the less-confident/committed new people will stop dead if they can't follow the move, rather than keep moving. That can't be healthy for them, but also in a crowded hall we're in danger of a Zumba pile-up, like the elephants in the Disney Jungle Book film!:D

I do the Hip Hop Abs on DVD at home. My zumba class fills the gym at the church. The newbies are usually at the back of the gym so I go for the middle to avoid the zumba crash. It's so full I don't get to move as much as I would like.

I just saw the new zumba for the xbox kinect. I might get that next time I'm at the store.

Carolyn

[ZumbaChick]

Anita, what ship will you be on? I am a Zumba instructor who will be on the Freedom March 24 cruise and want to teach!!

[nurseingu]

I have my first Zumba session Monday. Been hesitant but have hears food things about Zumba. Just hope I can keep up!:confused:

Karen

[Anita Latte]

Hi everyone,

so Anita, Pam, do you have you bags packed?
When are you heading for the port?

I swear I´m short of loosing my temper if anyone else asks me, if we are still going to cruise after the "Allegra incident". One would think it´s the first time that there has been a fire on a ship...

Anyways, I´m heading out to Zumba again tonight :) I hope Annie did not introduce too many new songs in the last two weeks...
I received a wii balance board for my birthday and have been doing some games on it for the last two days, seems to be fun.

Bags are not packed but I am in the final stages of the cruise wardrobe planning. I have figured out all my dinner outfits and thus, I was able to know what new undergarments I needed. I went shopping for those today (I HATE bra shopping) and I was successful in finding what I needed. It really is amazing how good foundation garments can have such an impact on the way a dress appears. I put off the bra shopping until the last minute because I have been changing so much.

So...did Annie have a bunch of new routines?

I just stumbled on your zumba messages. I love zumba I do it once a week at a church near my house. We just booked a cruise in April and need to kick up my workouts before we go. I have been doing Sean T's Hip Hop Abs. I really like zumba and Hip Hop Abs. The dancing makes the workouts fly by.

Carolyn

Hi Carolyn, welcome to the Zumba thread. I also love how quickly time flies in Zumba class!

Anita, what ship will you be on? I am a Zumba instructor who will be on the Freedom March 24 cruise and want to teach!!

I am salling on the Mariner of the Seas on March 11. I do not have concrete plans to teach on the cruise. At this moment, I am planning on bringing my qualification and iPod with me and contacting who I need to contact in order to see about reserving the necessary room. There are some other cc members on my roll call that are interested in attending the class, so I need to figure out a way to communication to them. If others find out about the class and show up (likely), that's fine, but I am more concerned with just getting my workout in on vacation. It won't be the same as my teaching schedule but I think it would drive me crazy to go an entire week without doing any Zumba.

I have my first Zumba session Monday. Been hesitant but have hears food things about Zumba. Just hope I can keep up!:confused:

Karen

Hi Karen,

Let's face it. You may have a hard time keeping up! Not because it will be so fast, but because it will be so NEW.

I tell people...I teach salsa, merengue, cumbia, reggaeton, bachata, cha cha, bhangra, bollywood, african inspired, etc etc...all in one class...to songs that you have likely never heard before. The most common first timer reaction to Zumba is "I was so LOST" followed closely with "It was so much fun!" Like any aerobic fitness class...it can take a bit for you to become familiar with the moves that are commonly used. And also, it can take some exposure for you to understand how to read the instructor...that is, to understand when the instructor's movements are a "cue" telling you what to do versus the actual movement that you should be doing...and it can take several times through a song for you to completely understand that when the instructor is tapping her right leg on this particular song, you will do a basic cumbia move...while on that other song...it's a basic salsa move, or cha cha...or whatever.

But the thing is...it isn't that hard to pick up...I know experienced instructors that say you need to attend 3 to 5 times to really get a feel for a class. The first time is exposure, the second time is a refresher, and depending on how much class/dance/musical experience you have, the third through fifth times are when you can really start to put it all together to feel more at ease with the class...to feel less on edge...to relax into following the instructor, listening to the music, and moving your body in unfamiliar ways.

The greatest encouragement I can give you is this...remember all the mottos that Zumba has..."Ditch the Workout, Join the Party"..."Feel Free"..."Feel the Music." Understand that the instructor has prepared something of an idea of movement for you to do to a playlist of songs. It's up to you to interpret what the instructor is doing into something that YOUR body does. You may not move exactly like your instructor...and it isn't important that you do...what is important is that you are MOVING. If you don't want to shake what the instructor is shaking...shake something else! If your instructor does a high impact move...and you don't want to...DON'T. It's important to listen to your body...move as your body wants to move...but ALSO...recognize that repeated Zumba attendance will also result in your body being able to move in more ways than it has before...so eventually, you MAY move more similar to the instructor...KWIM?

Have fun Karen, and be sure and tell us all about it. And remember, Zumba is very instructor dependent, so if you don't enjoy the class itself, know that the instructor has total control of the class...and you may enjoy a different instructors music and routines more.

Its the FORMAT of the class that makes a class a Zumba class. What is the format? The music that is played is supposed to be 70% International/Latin Music/Rhythms with 30% instructor's choice. One rhythm or sound should not dominate the class. Zumba is a MIX. And the songs should have routines such that whenever you hear the chorus, you are doing the same moves...the verses? same moves...for every distinct sound in a song, be it the chorus, verses, pre-chorus, bridge, etc...every time the sound repeats in the song...the moves repeat in the routine. If the class has these two elements, then it is a Zumba class. If you enjoy the format, but not the SPECIFIC music or routines...know that each instructor will play different music and can have different routines. Each instructor just has to follow the above format to adhere to Zumba standards.

Meanwhile...my Saturday classes are getting BIG!! It's very exciting. My director is trying to set my classes up in the larger room at the rec center for next session! YAY!

Meanwhile...life is all about trying to get ready for this vacation, dealing with house prep, and things to prepare for my Zumba classes. So busy, I feel!

Zumba love!

[cbergms]

I am salling on the Mariner of the Seas on March 11.




I'm going in the Mariner April 8th. Can't wait to hear about your trip. Do you have any excursions booked?

Carolyn

[nurseingu]

Bags are not packed but I am in the final stages of the cruise wardrobe planning. I have figured out all my dinner outfits and thus, I was able to know what new undergarments I needed. I went shopping for those today (I HATE bra shopping) and I was successful in finding what I needed. It really is amazing how good foundation garments can have such an impact on the way a dress appears. I put off the bra shopping until the last minute because I have been changing so much.

So...did Annie have a bunch of new routines?



Hi Carolyn, welcome to the Zumba thread. I also love how quickly time flies in Zumba class!



I am salling on the Mariner of the Seas on March 11. I do not have concrete plans to teach on the cruise. At this moment, I am planning on bringing my qualification and iPod with me and contacting who I need to contact in order to see about reserving the necessary room. There are some other cc members on my roll call that are interested in attending the class, so I need to figure out a way to communication to them. If others find out about the class and show up (likely), that's fine, but I am more concerned with just getting my workout in on vacation. It won't be the same as my teaching schedule but I think it would drive me crazy to go an entire week without doing any Zumba.



Hi Karen,

Let's face it. You may have a hard time keeping up! Not because it will be so fast, but because it will be so NEW.

I tell people...I teach salsa, merengue, cumbia, reggaeton, bachata, cha cha, bhangra, bollywood, african inspired, etc etc...all in one class...to songs that you have likely never heard before. The most common first timer reaction to Zumba is "I was so LOST" followed closely with "It was so much fun!" Like any aerobic fitness class...it can take a bit for you to become familiar with the moves that are commonly used. And also, it can take some exposure for you to understand how to read the instructor...that is, to understand when the instructor's movements are a "cue" telling you what to do versus the actual movement that you should be doing...and it can take several times through a song for you to completely understand that when the instructor is tapping her right leg on this particular song, you will do a basic cumbia move...while on that other song...it's a basic salsa move, or cha cha...or whatever.

But the thing is...it isn't that hard to pick up...I know experienced instructors that say you need to attend 3 to 5 times to really get a feel for a class. The first time is exposure, the second time is a refresher, and depending on how much class/dance/musical experience you have, the third through fifth times are when you can really start to put it all together to feel more at ease with the class...to feel less on edge...to relax into following the instructor, listening to the music, and moving your body in unfamiliar ways.

The greatest encouragement I can give you is this...remember all the mottos that Zumba has..."Ditch the Workout, Join the Party"..."Feel Free"..."Feel the Music." Understand that the instructor has prepared something of an idea of movement for you to do to a playlist of songs. It's up to you to interpret what the instructor is doing into something that YOUR body does. You may not move exactly like your instructor...and it isn't important that you do...what is important is that you are MOVING. If you don't want to shake what the instructor is shaking...shake something else! If your instructor does a high impact move...and you don't want to...DON'T. It's important to listen to your body...move as your body wants to move...but ALSO...recognize that repeated Zumba attendance will also result in your body being able to move in more ways than it has before...so eventually, you MAY move more similar to the instructor...KWIM?

Have fun Karen, and be sure and tell us all about it. And remember, Zumba is very instructor dependent, so if you don't enjoy the class itself, know that the instructor has total control of the class...and you may enjoy a different instructors music and routines more.

Its the FORMAT of the class that makes a class a Zumba class. What is the format? The music that is played is supposed to be 70% International/Latin Music/Rhythms with 30% instructor's choice. One rhythm or sound should not dominate the class. Zumba is a MIX. And the songs should have routines such that whenever you hear the chorus, you are doing the same moves...the verses? same moves...for every distinct sound in a song, be it the chorus, verses, pre-chorus, bridge, etc...every time the sound repeats in the song...the moves repeat in the routine. If the class has these two elements, then it is a Zumba class. If you enjoy the format, but not the SPECIFIC music or routines...know that each instructor will play different music and can have different routines. Each instructor just has to follow the above format to adhere to Zumba standards.

Meanwhile...my Saturday classes are getting BIG!! It's very exciting. My director is trying to set my classes up in the larger room at the rec center for next session! YAY!

Meanwhile...life is all about trying to get ready for this vacation, dealing with house prep, and things to prepare for my Zumba classes. So busy, I feel!

Zumba love!

Thank you so much for the advice and encouragement! Will keep you posted.

Karen

[kasi1979]

Hi,

Annie hat 3 new songs and introduced a song to us that uses the zumba weights.
It was a good way to gain a first experience, as I signed up for a Zumba toning trial class next sunday.
I believe I won´´t be able to lift my arms much this time next week :)

I´m using my wii with balance board daily and am hitting the gym again tomorrow. Hopefully all the hard work will show results someday soon.

I know everyone is different, but seeing, that DH manges to loose weight while doing a lot less excersises and eating more is kind of frustrating.

In zwo weeks I´ll be on my cruise, definetly something to look forward to. I´m hoping for sunny days.

[littlelovely21]

Hi,

Annie hat 3 new songs and introduced a song to us that uses the zumba weights.
It was a good way to gain a first experience, as I signed up for a Zumba toning trial class next sunday.
I believe I won´´t be able to lift my arms much this time next week :)

I´m using my wii with balance board daily and am hitting the gym again tomorrow. Hopefully all the hard work will show results someday soon.

I know everyone is different, but seeing, that DH manges to loose weight while doing a lot less excersises and eating more is kind of frustrating.

In zwo weeks I´ll be on my cruise, definetly something to look forward to. I´m hoping for sunny days.

I totally understand and feel your pain as to the bolded part above. Men. Ugh. haha

I've stayed committed to my classes 4 times a week with the exception of today (my son has orientation for middle school :eek: so I'll be missing class today). I feel good after every class, trying to stay positive. I had a major spike in weight 3 lbs and I'm blaming it on the fried foods consumed over the weekend :o but still I'm more dissappointed that I let myself cheat that badly so close to the cruise. Oh well just have to dust myself off and go to the remaining classes I have before our trip :D

I have most of what I think we'll need to pack "listed out" but have not actually packed ANYTHING! But I'll be sure to pack a few workout outfits in hopes that Anita is able to get a room for us to work out and do Zumba in :)

Anita, near the purser's desk I believe there's a bulletin like board where you can tack a card with info to where the class will be, times, etc. Maybe that'd be the best place to notify people?

[Retired Educator]

Recently returned from a 14 day Hawaiian cruise with Princess. They held morning Zumba sessions led by the assistant cruise director EVERY day by the pool (in a club if too cold or wet); again about mid-day (right after the bingo session) a second Zumba session was held in the bar/club led by one of the instructors from the fitness center. Physical limitations prevent me from participating but it was fantastic to watch these "workouts". My friend has lost over 10 pounds and redefined her figure with Zumba at our local gym in the past month. Must be good stuff! ;) Check your daily activity sheet to see if your cruise line is also offering it. NO FEE was charged, open to everyone who wished to join in. :D

[hubb2000]

Just found this site and this thread! LOVE LOVE LOVE Zumba - lost almost 15 lbs and over 7" in the last 3 months - go 5-6 times a week.
A friend convinced us to book a cruise with them and I would be so sad to not zumba for a whole week!
How do we find out if there is an instructor on the ship? Would love to get together even unofficially and dance!

[dlabout]

I'm with you guys. My wife and I are on Radiance of the seas from Hawaii to Vancouver in April. 14 days. Now how to get my Zumba fix?? I go 7 days a week and am down over 30 pounds in the last 3 months. I contacted Royal Caribbean but it's a wait and see with them. They can't confirm Zumba on board. If all else fails I'll take ZIN 38 if it comes in time. Hope to see some of you folks at the Conference in August!!
-Doug
Zumba addict

[kasi1979]

Just 10 more days to our cruise.

Unfortunately Í can be pretty sure that Costa will not offer Zumba classes, maybe a Latin dance class by the pool on a couple of days, better than none, but nothing to compare to Zumba.
So here´s my vacation plan:
swimming (if pools are heated) daily, if non-heated, once we sail pass Gibraltar.
gym, at least on sea-days
using the stairs as much as possible, since our stateroom is on the lowest level, that will be quite a workout whereever you go.

For relexation I´ve already bought some ebooks, the Hunger Games triology, some romance, and some short-stories should get me through the cruise.
My mp3-player needs new music, that´ll be done this weekend, I plan to put some Zumba music on there, too, so Ladies, if you have any favorite songs, with a hint on how to move to it, please post here, and I´ll do my very own Zumba workout :)

My wardrobe needs checking, that´ll be done during the next week and on the 16th I´ll get everything ready to go *yeah*

I ditched Zumba lst night due to a strom soreness in my muscles from Monday´s workout, but plan to head out for another class tonight.
Hopefully Annie will give me some song names so that I can go music shopping on Itunes.

Take care everyone.

[Member123]

Kasi,

The only hint that I can give you concerning Zumba songs is to try to remember some sort of repetitive phrase that is in the music so that you can put that either into a search engine or into youtube. That's the only way that I've been able to find some of the popular songs. If you ever hear the word "Zumba" in the song, then more than likely the song comes from the Zumba music available to instructors only. Anita can tell you more about that.

So here's a funny visual for you! On one of my cruises, I put my headphones on and did Zumba on my balcony! My balcony neighbors decided to come onto their balcony at some time during my routine. I bet they thought I was a crazy woman, just a-dancin' away on my balcony! I have no idea how it sounded with me stomping away out there. I didn't remember all the moves to any of the songs, but I just moved with the music in the same way that we do in class and it made me feel great!

I know that Carnival aka Princess (and maybe Costa) has embraced Zumba on board their ships. I think that they are rolling out Zumba classes on the Princess line, as a first step. So you might be having Zumba head your way at some point in the future. Royal Caribbean aka Celebrity are hanging back because they don't want to get involved with the licensing, so they're experimenting with the popularity of Latin rhythm classes. It was very funny to go to a salsa class on board a Royal Caribbean ship, recently. It was led by one of the dancers. When he came into the room, he asked if anyone knew salsa and nobody raised their hand. So he showed us a basic salsa move and we all followed very easily. He made some comment and several people shouted out "Zumba!" He laughed. At the end of the class, he said we were the BEST salsa students EVER! Not the same as a Zumba class session, but a lot of fun.

So, I'm down to the last 2 days before I leave for the airport to go to Anita's house to wait for Sunday! Cruise day! Today is full of making sure the wardrobe is completely taken care of. I know! I'm down to the wire here! Tomorrow is just a pampering day, medicure and pedicure. Cleaning out the frig, etc.

Have a happy sailing Kasi!

[littlelovely21]

Kasi,

The only hint that I can give you concerning Zumba songs is to try to remember some sort of repetitive phrase that is in the music so that you can put that either into a search engine or into youtube. That's the only way that I've been able to find some of the popular songs. If you ever hear the word "Zumba" in the song, then more than likely the song comes from the Zumba music available to instructors only. Anita can tell you more about that.

So here's a funny visual for you! On one of my cruises, I put my headphones on and did Zumba on my balcony! My balcony neighbors decided to come onto their balcony at some time during my routine. I bet they thought I was a crazy woman, just a-dancin' away on my balcony! I have no idea how it sounded with me stomping away out there. I didn't remember all the moves to any of the songs, but I just moved with the music in the same way that we do in class and it made me feel great!

I know that Carnival aka Princess (and maybe Costa) has embraced Zumba on board their ships. I think that they are rolling out Zumba classes on the Princess line, as a first step. So you might be having Zumba head your way at some point in the future. Royal Caribbean aka Celebrity are hanging back because they don't want to get involved with the licensing, so they're experimenting with the popularity of Latin rhythm classes. It was very funny to go to a salsa class on board a Royal Caribbean ship, recently. It was led by one of the dancers. When he came into the room, he asked if anyone knew salsa and nobody raised their hand. So he showed us a basic salsa move and we all followed very easily. He made some comment and several people shouted out "Zumba!" He laughed. At the end of the class, he said we were the BEST salsa students EVER! Not the same as a Zumba class session, but a lot of fun.

So, I'm down to the last 2 days before I leave for the airport to go to Anita's house to wait for Sunday! Cruise day! Today is full of making sure the wardrobe is completely taken care of. I know! I'm down to the wire here! Tomorrow is just a pampering day, medicure and pedicure. Cleaning out the frig, etc.

Have a happy sailing Kasi!

Thanks for the visual! lol I actually planned on doing the same thing on my balcony :D I'm sure DH and DS will get a kick out my bouncing around doing the different songs!! haha

I've tried getting with my instructor to get a list of the songs she uses since I'm horrible with titles/artists but yesterday I was able to catch a few song titles by using the "Shazam" app on my iPhone. It's a free app and you just press the button and it *listens* to a few seconds of the song and then up pops the artist and song title and you can even go directly to iTunes to purchase it from that app. We normally go through about 13 or so songs (could be more or less) but I was only able to capture 4-5 songs. I'm going to message her again and see if she can get me the titles before I leave so i can have them for my trip :)

[kasi1979]

Pam,
I wish you a safe trip to Anita´s and a wonderful cruise, please give my best wishes to the birthday girl :)

I´m getting ready to leave my old job, it´s horrible how much stuff one collects at work...
I´m going to go shopping this saturday as I need a tankini that actually allows you to swim with it and not just sunbath. So looking foward to our vacation.

I hope you all enjoy your cruise and I hope you will post a review here.

[Anita Latte]

Kasi...I wish you all the best as you make your work transition. And I hope that you have a FABULOUS cruise. I swear, one of these days, we all have to cruise together.

Hello and welcome to the newcomers to this thread...I will happily greet everyone individually AFTER my cruise!

Life has felt crazy busy lately as the cruise that has been my incentive, my goal, my far in the future guiding light to keep me on track is NOW. :eek:

So where am I?

Let's see...

TODAY...MY Zumba instructor...the one that I have looked up to...the one whose body I wanted my own version of...the one that created such a great class that I was actually MOTIVATED to exercise...she accompanied me to MY class today...and I was the instructor and she was the student. :D I showed her the ropes for what needs doing to talk to security etc. and be able to teach my corporate classes while I go on vacation next week. And her comment about me today was that I was "the incredible shrinking woman" and that every time she saw me I just kept getting smaller.

I changed after my evening class into a new bra and shirt to meet my family at the tennis club where my DS has a later private tennis lesson...and I put on a sports bra that was among the ONLY ones that I could get to fit me when I first started this journey...and it looks like a halter top it's so big on me now.

I have completely shrunk out of every single bottom (pants, shorts, skirts) that I owned.

I have a clearly defined jaw line!

I am now a woman that is a bit nervous about "losing my stamina" by going on vacation.

I am looking forward to EXERCISE while on VACATION.

I am not scared about all the pictures that will be taken on my vacation.

I am thrilled by my appearance in my new clothes, some purchased specifically for this vacation (formal dress) and some not...

I have developed relationships with several women that serve as motivation and inspiration to keep me going on days that I feel uninspired and definitely NOT motivated to keep going.

I have an EXERCISE SCHEDULE. And I keep it.

I could go on, but I'm getting tired, and I'm pretty excited by what I have been writing thus far...because everything that I am writing indicates that I have made that LIFESTYLE change that "THEY" say needs to occur in order for lasting change to happen.

And I have to say...it THRILLS me NO END when my students call me a BABY because I am ONLY turning 40!! It gives me such hope for my future to think that I may have been able to make some significant changes early enough to significantly affect my quality of life in the years to come.

I haven't yet played with my playlists to put together options for the cruise...but I do plan on making several playlists (because I have an older iPod that I can't rework without a computer).

As for final prep for the cruise...I still need to get a hair cut...get cruise toes...and figure out my "day wear".

I also have some alterations to do for DS. :rolleyes:

And there's the whole leaving the house for a week to deal with...

I can tell you this...

I plan on eating well...but stopping when I am full...
I plan on doing at least the 3 Zumba classes on seadays for exercise...
I plan on being active...swimming...playing on the beach...whatever...
I plan on being restful...relaxing on the beach and by the pool ;)
I plan on practicing what I have learned over the past year+ that really makes me feel great...

and that isn't "getting my money's worth at the buffet"

It's BALANCE...

We'll see how it goes. Mom and I will definitely be making a report, I'm sure.

I'm going to leave everyone with this...I recently discovered this photo that my Dad MUST have taken in Christmas 2010. Please understand that I was already on my way and have made some great changes...but this is a candid photo of me serving dinner in my kitchen:

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq34/misscurlyfeathertoes/Cruise2010896.jpg

And granted, this isn't candid, and the scarf may obscure things a bit...but here is one of the most recent photos I have of me:

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq34/misscurlyfeathertoes/014-1.jpg

I LOVE Zumba!

[littlelovely21]

:eek: Wow Anita congrats on the transformation! I think you look fanfreakintastic! I can see that you *feel* better about your appearance just by that little pose and smile :). I'm lookingo forward to meeting you on our trip! I've got a full day after I get out of work today at noon and a full day of preparation tomorrow also. I must be crazy because I still plan on going to Zumba tonight when I have SO MUCH stuff still to do :o lol

[cbergms]

For all of you getting ready to go on the Mariner of the Seas, I'm so jealous. I have 29 more day before my trip. I want to hear all the details of your trip. My message board doesn't have anybody talking about zumba. I will just have to make my own exercise. I love the gym on the ship. I also participate in all of the dance on deck activities and the walk a mile.

Please let me know what excursions you do. We only have cave tubing in Belize scheduled through VIV tours. Also let me know what shows and activities are a must to see.

Thank you,
Carolyn

[jmcruisers0630]

I am OBSESSED with zumba! I have been doing it for about 5 years now. Even while on any vacation, I look for zumba. I hope there will be some type of zumba class on our upcoming cruise, because it's not exercise to me. It's FUN!

[aoknkentucky]

Anita, Hope you and Pam and family have a wonderful cruise and are able to find lots of time and lots of fun friends to Zumba with during your time onboard. Happy birthday! Godspeed!

[kasi1979]

Ladies,

preparing for my cruise I wanted to stop and say hello to all of you.
I´ve had my first zumba toning class on Sunday and by now my muscles are no longer sore ;) It´s a pretty intense training and as I talked to my instructor last night about which regions hurt, she told me I did everything right, as those are the areas supposed to be trained *lol*

Well, I´m in the process of getting my stuff together. Today´s my last full day at the office, I´ll hand my documents in tomorrow, and than it´s vacation time. On saturday I´ll take the plane to Italy, and on this time Sunday, I´ll still be asleep as we don´t reach Barcelona til Midday.

I changed my workout routine from only Zumba to a Zumba Gym mix. The goal is to drop weight and to further redefine my body with BIL´s wedding loomin on the horizon. So far it´s a slow process but process nonetheless.
This morning my wii finally told my my BMI is below 30 :)

I´m going to post my pre-cruise weight tomorrow in order to keep me accountable.

have a wonderful day, take care

[kasi1979]

Hi Ladies,

my pre-cruise weight is 78,5 kg, which means an BMI of 29.5

I have 12 days of cruising ahead of me, let´s see how much it will be after that.

Take care everyone and Zumba on.

[MJC]

I had my second Zumba class this week - it was so much fun! I have a question for everyone about shoes. What do you wear, and why do you like it?

I dug an old pair of Bloch's hip hop dance sneakers out of the closet and I love them but they are too old now and I need to replace them. They work very well for Zumba but they don't have any support left. What I like about them is they are very lightweight and cool, and they are designed for turning well.

Can you give me some advice? I know there are a lot of appropriate shoes out there.

[no-name-at-all]

In July we are scheduled for a 35 day "Voyage of the Vikings" cruise on the Maasdam with Holland America. Being the Zumba fan that I am, I just don't want to be 35 days without it and I know HAL doesn't offer it yet on their ships. I found about 10 people who love Zumba or would like to try it on the Voyage of the Vikings thread. Here's my plan: I've reserved a room with a big screen TV and a DVD player in the mornings on sea days. My plan is to buy one of the Zumba Fitness DVD sets and use it to Zumba together.

My question for all you Zumba fans: Has anyone used one of these DVD's? As far as I know Zumba fitness has 2 sets. The original one is called "Total Transformation" and the more recent one is called "Fitness Exhilarate". Would anyone recommend one over the other? Does anyone have any suggestions on how best I can use them on my cruise?

Any help would be much appreciated!!:)

[Happy Peach]

I had my second Zumba class this week - it was so much fun! I have a question for everyone about shoes. What do you wear, and why do you like it?

I dug an old pair of Bloch's hip hop dance sneakers out of the closet and I love them but they are too old now and I need to replace them. They work very well for Zumba but they don't have any support left. What I like about them is they are very lightweight and cool, and they are designed for turning well.

Can you give me some advice? I know there are a lot of appropriate shoes out there.
I wear the nike air musique IV. They are great for all the studio gym classes I take, including zumba. I happen to have good luck with nike shoes and these are my second pair of nike studio shoes.

[Anita Latte]

I had my second Zumba class this week - it was so much fun! I have a question for everyone about shoes. What do you wear, and why do you like it?

I dug an old pair of Bloch's hip hop dance sneakers out of the closet and I love them but they are too old now and I need to replace them. They work very well for Zumba but they don't have any support left. What I like about them is they are very lightweight and cool, and they are designed for turning well.

Can you give me some advice? I know there are a lot of appropriate shoes out there.

Hey Margaret!

Isn't Zumba great? It isn't often that you can say that exercise is fun...and sometimes, some of the moves and some of the songs with Zumba are annoying too...but those few can pass quickly...and overall, it's good fun for working up a sweat.

If you like Bloch, check out their new offerings of dance sneakers. They don't have the split sole...but they still have the same great surface for turning. I wore Bloch for a while...I liked them when they fit my foot perfectly...however, as I started to lose weight, my foot began to regain a more normal shape (my feet had spread when I was pregnant, regained a more normal shape afterwards, but then had started to spread again with weight gain.), and the Bloch shoes became just lose enough...I lost the lateral support and I almost twisted my ankle a couple times. After the second time, I got new shoes.

I have also used the Nike Musique IV, I believe. They were my first Zumba shoes actually. They were great compared to non-dance sneakers. The arch support was lacking for me after a while (I think when my feet started to change shape) and perhaps a new insole would have helped BUT...they were a bit stiff with a non-mesh upper...and HOT...and I decided to try something different...the Bloch.

After Bloch, I got Ryka transitions. These were very good. I replaced the cheap insole with a better one and they were fabulous until I wore them out. Good sole for turning, lightweight, breathable...but I blew out the sides where the pinky toe is? on BOTH shoes...and so I wanted to get something that might have a bit more longevity.

I researched and settled on Nike Free TR Fit shoes. These are a cross training shoe whose main claim to fame is the style of sole. You can wring the shoe out like a towel, the sole is so flexible. You can see this in the video on the Zappos website. And the tread is such that it doesn't grab too much on a smooth floor. I also put in a different insole though.

I do teach on carpet though...and I noticed that I was feeling Zumba more on the carpet with these shoes. So I decided to order the Z-kicks from Zumba which have a sole that is GREAT on carpet. At the time I needed to order these shoes, the new Bloch shoes had not come out. For my next go round with shoes, I will probably give the Bloch shoes a run.

I hope all this info helps. Shoes really make a huge difference. I know that shoes get a rap for being a constant size and so women are often stereotyped as loving to buy shoes because generally shoes still fit regardless of your weight...however, I have discovered that changing weight, changing ability, and different floor surfaces have all had an impact on which shoes are better for Zumba for me. I share in case you discover the same thing.

Have you continued to go to class? Still liking it?

[Anita Latte]

Kasi! How was your cruise?

I am BUMMING because I don't have another cruise planned! Even if it is another 18 months in the future! It's amazing how that planned week served as such a motivator for me.

And after seeing the pictures...I am motivated to finish this race. I originally had thought that 18 months would be long enough for me to achieve my goal. Perhaps if I was more militant in my dietary intake, I could have done it. But it has been very important to me to try to adopt a new lifestyle instead of "go on a diet" and so I did not reach my goal.

I weighed myself at the beginning of the cruise...when we were exploring the ship and checking out the fitness area. I was rather disappointed to see the number on the scale of the ship. I know that my scale at home is inaccurate in the extreme, but the ship's scale was a good 10+ pounds higher than my home scale. I thought I was riding the 160 pound line, give or take...but it was the 170 pound line on the ship.

This still doesn't diminish the 50 pounds, give or take, that I have lost...or the inches...but it does light a fire under me to get down to the 140 pound line, give or take.

I gained 5 pounds on the cruise...considering the daily alcohol intake...the multiple appetizers and desserts...eating when I wasn't really very hungry...and the fact that I didn't exercise AT ALL during the cruise...I considered 5 pounds to be about right. Judging from the fit of my clothing...since my scale is so whacked...I know that I have already lost that and more since coming home.

I think actually the break during the vacation...and coming home and jumping right back into my 8 classes a week schedule SHOCKED my body into letting go of the cruise weight and then some. Mom gave me some bottoms that she had shrank out of...I tried them on before the cruise and they were tight...I just tried them on yesterday and the waist was lose and the thighs didn't create that "crotch pull line" any longer.

I've been thinking about what to do about how to go about achieving my ultimate goal. I've been in pursuit of it since September 12, 2010. It is April 6, 2012. That's 572 days so far...over 81 weeks. In this time, I have only missed taking Zumba classes for 4 weeks. There was one week during my parent's Christmas visit in 2010...one week in the spring 2011 (Spring Break)...one week during Christmas 2011...and my cruise week. Zumba is definitely a part of my life...my routine...and when I don't have at least one class...I miss it. I may not need ALL the classes that I teach to get my fix...and lately, I've been thinking that I'd like to cut back my schedule...but I know that the stress relief that I get from the class is always worth it...even if I am dragging my rear to class and fully don't feel like doing it.

It's obvious that my food is the issue.

DH has been dealing with back issues. I have concluded recently that IF we were to pursue an anti-inflammation diet...he could probably relieve a lot of the pain that he experiences. There are numerous health benefits associated with a diet that is designed to reduce inflammation and body acidity.

I recently watched a movie called "Forks Over Knives." I'm not necessarily recommending this movie...but there was an interesting take away for me from the movie. They reported on the incidence of osteoporosis in countries as compared to their dairy intake. In countries with high dairy intake, osteoporosis was high...in countries with lower dairy intake, osteoporosis was low. Here was their explanation:

Dairy creates an acid environment in the body. CALCIUM is the preferred buffer to reduce body acidity. The body gets the calcium from your bones. The calcium supplied by the dairy cannot counter the need for even more calcium because of the resulting increase in body acidity. Thus, those that consume a lot of dairy generally have a more acidic body...resulting in more calcium leeched from their bones...resulting in higher incidence of osteoporosis. This is just one example of a negative effect of an acidic body...with past research, I had learned of this one and more.

It seems that many of the foods that create more acidity also contribute to inflammation, so to pursue one is to pursue the other. Anti-inflammatories is something that DH has been prescribed in the past to help reduce his back pain. So it makes sense that a diet that would help reduce inflammation instead of contribute to inflammation would be helpful. My thoughts are that pursuing such a diet would be a part of a lifestyle...and while a side benefit of such a diet would likely be weight loss...since the reason to eat such a diet wouldn't necessarily be SOLELY for the pursuit of weight loss...this begins to take the OPTION out of food choices. It's one thing to want to lose weight...it's another thing to choose to eat one way to reduce, or help someone else reduce, constant PAIN.

So these are my current thoughts and goals, in regards to the continued pursuit of my health and fitness goals after the big celebration cruise. I have discovered that I am not motivated by short term goals...these are stressful for me. Long term goals with lifestyle change being the ultimate goal is what has proven to be successful so far. Mom and I were talking during our visit and we agree that it will probably take me another year to really get to where I want to be physically.

That would be Spring Break 2013.

So that's it. New goal. New focus. I am going to continue my Zumba classes while researching and planning a diet that would be designed to reduce inflammation and body acidity.

Now I just need a new celebration for Spring Break 2013!;)

[kasi1979]

Hi Anita,

thanks for posting again on this thread.
my post-cruise weight as of today is 80,2 kg, which means I gained 1,7 kg in the last 22 days as my Wii was so nice to point out.
I´m pretty sure most of that is due to some unhealthy food choices during the last couple of days as I caught a cold and am craving comforty foods...

Anyways:
My cruise was nice. Knowing all the ports relieves you of the stress to see it all and do it all. We could concentrate on half day excursions and doing stuff more in our personla speed and not always looking where is our group... The weather was really nice on 10 days out of 12 and I got my first sunburn of the season :( Must have missed some spots while putting on sunscreen.
I managed to go swimming on a few days and hit the gym oin 3 days, apart from that we tended to walk the stairs a lot. As our cabin was on the lowest level (deck 1), and the pool and buffet on deck 9, you got quite a lot of stairs to take...

I started my new job this week and have not been to any sport due to being bone tired with all the new stuff to take in. I hope to get my cold to get better during the Holidays and hope to be back on track by Tuesday.

We have no cruise booked as of yet, but are looking for a transatlantic cruise for this fall, as I cannot take time off work during the first 6 month, and DH has a huge project to finish this summer, so hopefully we´ll get to take a longer vacation in the fall.
Before than there´s still the wedding of my BIL coming up in July and September and my goal is to fit into a nice dress that does not look or feel like a tent...

[Anita Latte]

Happy Easter to everyone!

I'm apologize for not saying an individual hello to all the new posters here. I like to think of myself as the "hostess" of this thread, welcoming new comers and being as helpful as I can be with regards to whatever questions and concerns are posted here...but frankly...I've been too involved in my own drama to spend the time that I normally do reading and responding.

Here's the deal.

I'm moving.

And it isn't necessarily by choice. DH's job is changing. Things have been rough for a while. My DH, my SIL, and my BIL by marriage all work for the same company. SIL and BIL moved to Georgia two years ago when the contract their jobs were dependent on was going to be canceled. DH has been concerned over his own contract for a while now. SIL found out about a great job opportunity for DH, he interviewed, and he received a job offer 6 hours before he found out that, yes, indeed, his contract that he was currently working on was being terminated. Immediately.

How divine is that?

While I am ever so grateful that we will are not having to go through the hardship that so many have regarding employment, or rather, lack thereof, and that provision is being made for our family, and the one income that we have relied on for most of our married life has been assured through divine providence...I admit that I am very sad to have to move.

And I'm somewhat worried.

I'm going to have to start over in terms of Zumba classes.

I currently teach 8 classes a week...and beginning this Saturday, it will be 9 classes again...as I am starting the Saturday morning Curves class again. But this will be lost with the move. I will have to do what is necessary to do to rebuild my life as an instructor.

And I am very sad by this. Because my classes have been growing and continue to grow.

It breaks down like this though. DH will likely have to start working in GA before the school year is out; we don't have a definite start date yet, but are imagining that it will be the week of April 30. DS and I will finish the school year in TX. And beyond that, our lease isn't over until the end of July. My current Zumba class session with the rec center ends on May 26. Curves will be the same. My corporate class will continue through the end of June. DS and I, and our household, will not go to GA until July. DH will end up staying with family until everything else moves. He will have a chance to scout out the area.

So my immediate future will be concentrating on several things, all of which are related to the preparation of an interstate move to a place that I have never been to before. *sigh*

Here's my number 1 goal...

And it comes from experience...

Once upon a time ago, DH and I decided to get serious about our health and fitness. We were successful. Not to the extent that I am now, but still, successful. And then we moved. And all ground that had been gained was lost. So my number one goal is to do what needs to be done so that I don't lose ANYTHING that I have worked so hard to accomplish.

And honestly, I haven't quite detailed what will be required for me to accomplish this goal. But figuring this out is my number one priority with regards to myself and this move.

In the midst of Zumba and Zumba related...there is the moving. As in the past, I know that the majority of the packing and moving will fall on my shoulders. I'm fine with this. And I recently read a funny little article with regards to this very topic, so I have a great mindset here.

The article was talking about a woman having to sell her home after a divorce. The Realtor said that she had to de-clutter to prepare to sell. And because of their personal timeline, the woman had 14 days to deal with the house. So she just packed up everything and put it in storage. After quite some time of living in minimalist simplicity while the house didn't sell...the woman took the house off the market and prepared to deal with everything that she had put into storage. You can imagine that the woman really didn't miss too much that had been put into storage and was actually enjoying the clean living that had resulted from the de-clutter, BUT she was wanting to find a balance between the clean living and the clutter when bringing back personal items into her home.

The word used to describe the process that she went through was NOT de-cluttering...it was CURATING. Like a curator in a museum, she was making choices as to what she was keeping, paring down her collections to the treasures. The result was that the remaining treasures were able to be truly treasured, and appreciated in a way that they couldn't before in the midst of "too much."

I've moved a lot. One Thanksgiving, in a fit of anger and bitterness over how much I have moved, I recounted all the moves that I had made since college...I averaged moving every 13 months. Each move, I grow a bit wiser in regards to things and stuff and moving in general. This last move has been the best ever and I am prepared to top it with this one coming. As always, I will be going through our stuff and making decisions about whether or not things will be moved, donated, or attempted to be sold. And this time, I have a great word to guide the process...CURATING...I love it.

So, this is what I will end up talking about...moving...and how to maintain my progress in health and fitness through the move. And how my career as an instructor and/or related something or other survives and thrives with this move.

Kasi, I'm glad you had a great cruise! If you do a transatlantic cruise, and you land within a day's drive of me, I swear, we HAVE to meet! There's plenty of time between now and July for you to be able to wear a great dress that in no way resembles a tent!

Again, Happy Easter everyone!

[kasi1979]

Hi Anita,

thanks for letting us know about the changes your live is about to encounter. As you have hinted time and again that DH feared difficulties with his current job, I´m so glad that this worked out for you and you are on your way to a new adventure.
That´s how I would want to treat a move like that. An adventure where you are not sure what lies ahead of you but you are so looking forward to discover all the new things.
As the different states in the US are quite big, care to share a general direction where you are headed?

On a possitive note, a move to GA brings you closer to most major ports in regards of cruising :)

I wish I had taken the time to curate or just de-clutter in time for our last move, however I did not. First my mother-in-law was ill and died and after that we kind of tumbled into a dark hole. Actually I was still packing my stuff on the day my friends showed up to help us move... This results in several boxes still left unpacked two years after moving. Generally speaking you don´t need the stuff packed in there, however, I´ll attend to curate (yeah, I like that word, too) the content over the next few weeks.

Weather today in sunny *yeah* and I have a new camera, so after breakfast I´m heading outside to take some pictures.

Thanks for your encouraging words reagrding my wardrobe and all the best for the changes your life is about to experience.

Happy Easter everyone.

[MJC]

Hi Anita,

I also prefer "curating" to de-cluttering. As an English teacher I understand how words influence thought, so I prefer the idea of "choosing with care" rather than "denying oneself." It applies to our food and exercise choices as well as to our stuff.

My sympathies with your DH's situation, we are in a similar bind as my husband really needs to leave his job but the security of the paycheck is paramount -- at any time, but especially in our current economy. As I tell him almost daily, transitioning is difficult but a year from now he will look back on this time and wonder why he waited so long to make a change for the better. We are all such creatures of habit. I also sympathize with your business issues - losing something you have worked so hard to build needs to be mourned. Starting over seems difficult but, truly, it's totally achievable, and you're starting again from a place of vastly more experience and skill so it will be easier the second time around. VOE.

I think you will love Georgia, and the idea that you can drive to many ports is excellent! We always have to fly to cruise and it's rather expensive.

As for Zumba, for scheduling reasons I can only go on Wednesdays. It is getting easier as I become more familiar with the routines, and it isn't bothering my knees too much as long as I keep it low impact. There is another lady in the class who is doing the same thing so we buddy up in the same area. I'm only 5'6" but I'm the giant of the class, and my biggest issue is to avoid wacking someone in the head or running them over. :) It's just me and a gazillion teeny tiny Hispanic women.

Luckily we are on a sprung wood floor, and I bought a pair of New Balance Trail Runners, which I love. They are almost like dancing barefoot, with a very neutral foot position and a really small profile. So far so good. I believe they would not be appropriate for a high impact version, though, not enough cushion in the sole. I love doing anything with a cha cha!

I admire all of you for setting concrete goals. I have been trying to behave healthier for the last year, but I've avoided setting weight goals for myself, I think mostly because it seems like everytime I do I get derailed by some event. I just had my yearly checkup after a bout with melanoma last year, and learned I have another area that needs a biopsy, and also a basal cell on my leg that I'm getting removed tomorrow. So, my gym time will be interrupted yet again and I'll want a cupcake to feel better (which I'm not going to have, I'm treating myself to a trip to Sephora instead). My goal for this year was to get through it without cancer, and I'm already screwed! Still, my current plan to add a swim day to my schedule will just have to wait until the stitches are out.

Now I'm off to the store to buy some fruit for snacking, since DH's cousins ate us out of house and home this weekend.

[Alrana Eris]

I love Zumba BUT my pet peeve, on the belly dance part- (I'm a professional belly dancer for 15 years) the way most Zumba instructors teach it wrong, and in belly dance knees are always slightly bent. But its the teaching curriculum taught when being certified, that is the problem. I didn't know this until my instructor who is also a belly dancer told me. I have been with her for a year now. and I go once a week(Fridays) belly dance class on Sundays. Yoga on Wednesdays.
then again Zumba fitness class not a dance class.
I love my Zumba but please change the belly dance bit of it..

[scrap4girls]

I love zumba! Love going to live classes. Hate how popular it is. They let to many people in the class and I have to arrive 30mins early just to have a spot. Its amazing how much fun it is and how it transforms your body. My girls 3 & 9 love to play it on the Wii. I even have my nephew coming over and sharing to dance with me.

[Anita Latte]

I love Zumba BUT my pet peeve, on the belly dance part- (I'm a professional belly dancer for 15 years) the way most Zumba instructors teach it wrong, and in belly dance knees are always slightly bent. But its the teaching curriculum taught when being certified, that is the problem. I didn't know this until my instructor who is also a belly dancer told me. I have been with her for a year now. and I go once a week(Fridays) belly dance class on Sundays. Yoga on Wednesdays.
then again Zumba fitness class not a dance class.
I love my Zumba but please change the belly dance bit of it..

I feel your angst. It can be very frustrating to those that know the proper way to do a particular dance move when they are lead in the "Zumba-fied" dance move. I've read complaints from salsa dancers too.

It can be even more frustrating when you hear that bellydancing isn't a rhythm that is taught in the Basic Zumba training. It is taught is the SECOND Basic Zumba training...and many instructors...myself included...have never taken that training course. And ALSO...Zumba instructors are not necessarily CERTIFIED...they are LICENSED through Zumba to teach Zumba...they aren't tested by Zumba at the end of training. You pay...you go to the training...BAM, you are now legally able to teach a ZUMBA class.

Some instructors are certified if they have taken a Group X training course through ACE or AFAA. They are a certified Group X instructor but still only a LICENSED Zumba instructor.

This is one of the reasons that I have repeated over and over again that Zumba classes are very instructor dependent...and one instructor can be very different from another...not only in musical choice, but also in choreography, ability to lead, and even how safe the class is.

I have taken a series of belly dancing classes from someone that learned how to belly dance when they were doing a mission trip to Malasia, I think. Very fun. And very intricate. I haven't yet taught a belly dance routine in my class because there are too many things that I don't think can really be taught given the way that a Zumba class is lead. Maybe for Zumba Gold, since they break down the steps in between songs. To get that flavor in my class, I stick with Bollywood and Bhangra, which is more forgiving with form.

I love zumba! Love going to live classes. Hate how popular it is. They let to many people in the class and I have to arrive 30mins early just to have a spot. Its amazing how much fun it is and how it transforms your body. My girls 3 & 9 love to play it on the Wii. I even have my nephew coming over and sharing to dance with me.

Ah yes...the popularity of Zumba can be frustrating. It's like there is a certain level where a class is too small, but more fun with more people...but then, the line is crossed, and with too many people...it's just crowded and sometimes frustrating for the veterans when there are the struggling first timers that are trying so hard to figure out what in the world everyone is doing.

Margaret, your flooring sounds DIVINE. Thanks for the encouraging words regarding the move. It does make me upset if I focus on starting over. My classes continue to grow...new people are continually visiting my class and they keep coming back...I guess I'm just getting my ego boosted before the move...getting some confidence rather than have my classes bomb before moving and making me question whether or not my class is appealing. Tonight I had my first MALE student at the rec center. It was awesome. He was enthusiastic and had a great attitude doing booty circles in a room full of women ranging from 16 to almost 70!!

[MJC]

I love Zumba BUT my pet peeve, on the belly dance part- (I'm a professional belly dancer for 15 years) the way most Zumba instructors teach it wrong, and in belly dance knees are always slightly bent. But its the teaching curriculum taught when being certified, that is the problem. I didn't know this until my instructor who is also a belly dancer told me. I have been with her for a year now. and I go once a week(Fridays) belly dance class on Sundays. Yoga on Wednesdays.
then again Zumba fitness class not a dance class.
I love my Zumba but please change the belly dance bit of it..

I find the belly dance parts of class completely mystifying. My instructor's booty does things that are completely out of my league. She teaches a belly dance class immediately after and I think that's where some of the women are picking up the moves.

I used to ballroom dance so I have trouble sometimes with the order of steps, and I want to go forward and back instead of forward and forward or back and back. Muscle memory is a strong force.

[Member123]

Hi, ladies.

So, I'm almost back into my routine after leaving for our family celebratory cruise, spending a lot of time with family afterwards (and a LOT of TIME at Zumba classes because I kept up with Anita's schedule... holy sweating, batman...)... coming back home and trying to get everything back in order from a very dusty house and overgrown yard... unpacking... AND...

thinking about our anniversary cruise to Bermuda in a little over a month!

I think that I'm pretty mellow in most of my Zumba classes... which are all very popular and very, very crowded in a gym setting. There's just ONE THING that I can't stand! I guess that I've decided to let it "get" to me! I love Anita's song selections and she really puts a lot of effort into her playlist for every class that she does. I have one instructor who has decided that she LOVES this awful, nasty song that I canNOT stand! It has something to do with alien love... and probes... and some sort of nonsense. I think it's a popular song, but I just don't want to end my Zumba class stretching or slowing down to all that nasty lyric noise. So I just decided that if she played that song, I was going to protest by LEAVING... which I DID yesterday. So I only had a 50-minute class yesterday!... whatever... can you believe that I'm considering changing my schedule because of ONE SONG! Well, the truth is that I have a lot of choices in my Zumba instructors.. locations, etc... so you betcha... I'm considering it!

Anyway, what I really have to share...

I stepped on the scale this morning, and I'm within 1 lb of my weight in the 1980's! GASP! This is the weight that I was, consistently, before goiter surgery... before menopause... as an active, young woman juggling a job, college classes, husband, beautiful DD, and a wonderful golden lab! I was so busy and I had a roaring metabolism! Could eat anything! Now, I'm not so busy... being retired and all that brings... have to work not to have a total sedentary life... able to afford the TIME to TRAVEL and eat, eat, eat cruise food a couple of times a year! So, I'm pretty blown away that I'm weighing what I'm weighing lately... I just had the thought that I should take measurements to see how close this body weight is to the distribution that I had back then as well. I'm such an obsessive person that I actually have measurements from that long ago! LOL.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend.

[Anita Latte]

Hello Everyone!

Hope is well with everyone.

I'm watching the Biggest Loser...BUT we missed the most important first 11 minutes of the show. :( I'll have to watch those minutes online tomorrow.

Anyway...just posting so that everyone can admire my new ticker!! Woot woot! It's a booked cruise...Mom and Dad booked themselves, DH, DS, and myself...we will figure out in September whether or not we will really be going...so much is up in the air with the big move and new job.

BUT I'm so excited to even have the possibility on the horizon.

It's my new goal time...it's almost exactly one year away...it is Spring Break again. I'm very hopeful that I will be AT GOAL by this cruise. I believe this will help keep me motivated to keep after it even in the midst of moving and settling into a new place.

I'm totally pumped!!

[luvin2cruz09]

Hello y'all!!! I LOVE Zumba, I started doing it in Oct of 2010 and was doing 2 hours a week. Within 6 months I was attending 4 classes a week including a 2 hour one on Tuesday's. I was losing weight and feeling awesome about it, I had lost about 100 pounds when I started Zumba and was down to 120 lost when I was really in to the zumba classes. I loved the instructor and the fact that he would change it up all the time, but his classes got so packed that I wasn't getting as much out of the class anymore.

So I slacked after trying to do zumba at home and with some big life changes have gained back weight and am back to where I was when I started zumba. Recently I found a new instructor who is AWESOME and really enjoy her classes. I have gotten back in to it and am already feeling better.

What I love about zumba is that you are working out but have fun doing it. I decided yesterday that I am setting a goal of losing 40 more pounds, now that I have put it out there I have to achieve this. I have given myself until Feb 2013 to reach this goal. I can do it as I was only 15 pounds away from it at one point.

Wow, I have said a lot (sorry about that) here... Glad I found this thread, good luck and Zumba like no one is looking!!!!

[Anita Latte]

Quick post...

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Redeem the code today and you have until the 22nd to redeem.

I bought "Zumbala" and "Te Voy Amar" by Grupo Extra which are a couple songs I have been liking for a while.

[Anita Latte]

Hello y'all!!! I LOVE Zumba, I started doing it in Oct of 2010 and was doing 2 hours a week. Within 6 months I was attending 4 classes a week including a 2 hour one on Tuesday's. I was losing weight and feeling awesome about it, I had lost about 100 pounds when I started Zumba and was down to 120 lost when I was really in to the zumba classes. I loved the instructor and the fact that he would change it up all the time, but his classes got so packed that I wasn't getting as much out of the class anymore.

So I slacked after trying to do zumba at home and with some big life changes have gained back weight and am back to where I was when I started zumba. Recently I found a new instructor who is AWESOME and really enjoy her classes. I have gotten back in to it and am already feeling better.

What I love about zumba is that you are working out but have fun doing it. I decided yesterday that I am setting a goal of losing 40 more pounds, now that I have put it out there I have to achieve this. I have given myself until Feb 2013 to reach this goal. I can do it as I was only 15 pounds away from it at one point.

Wow, I have said a lot (sorry about that) here... Glad I found this thread, good luck and Zumba like no one is looking!!!!

Welcome Luvin!

So you and I got started with Zumba at about the same time. I started Sept 2010. I can totally understand about what happened in the class that you were attending. It's unfortunate when a class gets so popular that you can't really move well because you would be smackin' into someone if you really extended your arms and you can't travel because the class is just too crammed. Mom had an instructor like that...I went to his class...it would have frustrated me if that was the only class that I was able to attend and it were always that crowded.

Working out at home never works for me...not in the long run anyway...I'm so happy that you found another instructor you enjoy! IMO the instructor is what makes or breaks the class...they are as individual as individuals can be...and it can take time to find one that you really enjoy...especially if you become a seasoned veteran of Zumba...then you can get even more picky about your classes!

So our goals are really similar too! You have a 40 pound goal by Feb 2013...and I have about a 30 pound goal by Jan/Feb 2013. I have a new cruise booked for April 2013 and I would like to be at goal in enough time to make sure that I have time to shop and/or alter clothing as needed. I'm not really sure what my current weight is, so I can't say for certain how much I want to lose...and if you have read through this thread...then the following won't be too much of a shock...but I HATE setting a WEIGHT related goal...because the actual body shape is what I am going for...more than the related weight.

So...to put my own goals into my words...

I want:

...my thighs to NOT TOUCH. SERIOUSLY
...bikini-worthy abs even if I never show my abs in a bikini
...a body that SCREAMS "I work out" because my body fat percentage is back to or better than my previously measured best...19% body fat...I weighed 137 pounds at that time. (So I care more about lean muscle mass than weight alone.)

You can never say too much on my thread...

And I agree with you about what is so lovable about Zumba...it is actually FUN and EFFECTIVE all at the same time.

[Anita Latte]

Here's a question for everyone...

Are there any MEN in your Zumba classes.

I have a MAN in my class now at the rec center. He tries SO HARD...but he is NOT a dancer...but he is unafraid to try...and he took me so seriously when I said to not worry about the arms, but to just focus on the footwork and then add the arms that he didn't move his arms during the WARM UP...he was FOCUSED on those step tap and step together foot movements! I don't mean to be insulting...because I did say to him after class that he could move during the warm up and the stretch so that he could, you know, get warmed up...and stretch! LOL I'm having a good time with him in class...

But I noticed last night that some of my ladies are acting all shy and reserved for some movements...maybe they were shy and reserved before...this IS a new session...BUT...I did just notice it more last night...so here's my question...

Do you have men in your classes? Do you find any movements to be particularly embarrassing to do because there is a man in the class?

Because this guy has come, I think I have talked DH into attending my class next Monday. I would really like him to experience one of my Zumba classes while I am still teaching and feeling confident. He leaves for GA next Saturday...so only 1+ week.

On another note...I had an interesting corporate class today. We had to meet in a different room than normal. We met there once before, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than our normal location, and so I made a special playlist that involved NO traveling so that everyone could get a great workout without worrying about smacking into each other. One song in particular is a real kick in the butt...and these ladies LIKE their butts kicked for at least one song during class...but the interesting thing about this song is that it involves almost NO foot work...it is all almost entirely arm work above heart level...

Some of my ladies don't understand the difference between high intensity and high impact...and they think you have to have high impact to have high intensity...NOT TRUE...

Does everyone know this? Does everyone know that you can control your heart rate with your arm movements?

IF you move your arms a lot at or above the level of your heart...you will INCREASE your heart rate (EVEN if your feet aren't really moving)...to LOWER your heart rate...relax your arms to below heart level and into a natural kind of movement (not tensed and controlled, but more swinging with your body movement). Now you know if you didn't before.

I just got the latest and greatest Zumba CD/DVD release for instructors. And I HAVE to share with you ladies...because a HUGE discussion is happening in the Zumba Instructor forum regarding the lyrics of one of the songs...it is a merengue...and it has a different kind of sound...it is sung in Portuguese, not Spanish...and the name of the song is "Bunda" which apparently refers to your rear end in a kind of "booty" way...the words say "move your booty" or "mueve tu bunda"...Listen for this one to possibly come to a Zumba class near you!

This is NOT Zumba...OR even close to the routine Zumba gave me...something called "RIO"...but this is the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lF5sXS9_hE

I happen to LOVE this song! I HAVE to do this next week with my corporate class...maybe the rec center too...

[Anita Latte]

This just posted on the ZIN forum:

http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20464867_8,00.html

[hubb2000]

Here's a question for everyone...

Are there any MEN in your Zumba classes.


We do! It ranges from none to like 5. There are some really good ones too!!! And then we have some who are really really trying (I just don't like standing next to him because he is still trying to go the right direction and I don't want to get hit :eek: ) I don't think the group we do it with cares... we all want a good workout. There are kind of the 'regulars' and everyone is pretty welcoming.

I have been bit by the zumba bug..... I am going to training. EEK! Now to start practicing backwards, and learning how to use an MP3 player (I have never yet purchased a song :o ) and I guess I need an ipod.

[luvin2cruz09]

Here's a question for everyone...

Are there any MEN in your Zumba classes.

I have a MAN in my class now at the rec center. He tries SO HARD...but he is NOT a dancer...but he is unafraid to try...and he took me so seriously when I said to not worry about the arms, but to just focus on the footwork and then add the arms that he didn't move his arms during the WARM UP...he was FOCUSED on those step tap and step together foot movements! I don't mean to be insulting...because I did say to him after class that he could move during the warm up and the stretch so that he could, you know, get warmed up...and stretch! LOL I'm having a good time with him in class...

But I noticed last night that some of my ladies are acting all shy and reserved for some movements...maybe they were shy and reserved before...this IS a new session...BUT...I did just notice it more last night...so here's my question...

Do you have men in your classes? Do you find any movements to be particularly embarrassing to do because there is a man in the class?

Because this guy has come, I think I have talked DH into attending my class next Monday. I would really like him to experience one of my Zumba classes while I am still teaching and feeling confident. He leaves for GA next Saturday...so only 1+ week.

On another note...I had an interesting corporate class today. We had to meet in a different room than normal. We met there once before, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than our normal location, and so I made a special playlist that involved NO traveling so that everyone could get a great workout without worrying about smacking into each other. One song in particular is a real kick in the butt...and these ladies LIKE their butts kicked for at least one song during class...but the interesting thing about this song is that it involves almost NO foot work...it is all almost entirely arm work above heart level...

Some of my ladies don't understand the difference between high intensity and high impact...and they think you have to have high impact to have high intensity...NOT TRUE...

Does everyone know this? Does everyone know that you can control your heart rate with your arm movements?

IF you move your arms a lot at or above the level of your heart...you will INCREASE your heart rate (EVEN if your feet aren't really moving)...to LOWER your heart rate...relax your arms to below heart level and into a natural kind of movement (not tensed and controlled, but more swinging with your body movement). Now you know if you didn't before.

I just got the latest and greatest Zumba CD/DVD release for instructors. And I HAVE to share with you ladies...because a HUGE discussion is happening in the Zumba Instructor forum regarding the lyrics of one of the songs...it is a merengue...and it has a different kind of sound...it is sung in Portuguese, not Spanish...and the name of the song is "Bunda" which apparently refers to your rear end in a kind of "booty" way...the words say "move your booty" or "mueve tu bunda"...Listen for this one to possibly come to a Zumba class near you!

This is NOT Zumba...OR even close to the routine Zumba gave me...something called "RIO"...but this is the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lF5sXS9_hE

I happen to LOVE this song! I HAVE to do this next week with my corporate class...maybe the rec center too...


Yes I have had men in my Zumba classes and my first instructor that I LOVED was a man!! I am not a dancer and still hang out in the back of the class. I think part of that is because I don't want people to see me when I mess up.

We have a song that has no traveling in it and it is an ab and butt work out that I love. I have downloaded the song and will repeat the song a couple times at the house to get a mini work out in. It's to the FloRida song "Good Feeling", it has a lot of slow controlled swats, arms, crunches and kick boxing in it...

[luvin2cruz09]

Welcome Luvin!

So you and I got started with Zumba at about the same time. I started Sept 2010. I can totally understand about what happened in the class that you were attending. It's unfortunate when a class gets so popular that you can't really move well because you would be smackin' into someone if you really extended your arms and you can't travel because the class is just too crammed. Mom had an instructor like that...I went to his class...it would have frustrated me if that was the only class that I was able to attend and it were always that crowded.

Working out at home never works for me...not in the long run anyway...I'm so happy that you found another instructor you enjoy! IMO the instructor is what makes or breaks the class...they are as individual as individuals can be...and it can take time to find one that you really enjoy...especially if you become a seasoned veteran of Zumba...then you can get even more picky about your classes!

So our goals are really similar too! You have a 40 pound goal by Feb 2013...and I have about a 30 pound goal by Jan/Feb 2013. I have a new cruise booked for April 2013 and I would like to be at goal in enough time to make sure that I have time to shop and/or alter clothing as needed. I'm not really sure what my current weight is, so I can't say for certain how much I want to lose...and if you have read through this thread...then the following won't be too much of a shock...but I HATE setting a WEIGHT related goal...because the actual body shape is what I am going for...more than the related weight.

So...to put my own goals into my words...

I want:

...my thighs to NOT TOUCH. SERIOUSLY
...bikini-worthy abs even if I never show my abs in a bikini
...a body that SCREAMS "I work out" because my body fat percentage is back to or better than my previously measured best...19% body fat...I weighed 137 pounds at that time. (So I care more about lean muscle mass than weight alone.)

You can never say too much on my thread...

And I agree with you about what is so lovable about Zumba...it is actually FUN and EFFECTIVE all at the same time.


Bikini??? What is that... Good for you!!
I will never wear a bikini and I am good with that, I just want to be a "normal" size, healthy and comfortable in clothes. I have been "big" my whole life and when I was 30 was diagnosed with type II diabetes then years later I decided that I needed to loose the weight since I was in size 28/30. For me, being in my early/mid 30's wearing that size was not good. So I started the adventure to loose weight and have been as small as a size 8, which is where I want to get back to.
I have changed back to "good" eating habits and added Zumba again, so I figure that I should be able to reach my goal and live/maintain there.

I was going to go to a Zumba class on a Carnival cruise and missed it because I was enjoying the sun too much.:):) But I walked by the club where they were having the class and they were about 30 mins in to it and it was very slow moves. So I hung around and watched for a bit. It didn't get any better, I would have been a little frustrated if I had paid to take that class and didn't get a work out because the class was so slow paced. I wonder if any of the lines have done a Zumba cruise, WOW that would be a fun one to be on!!

[Anita Latte]

OH NO!! I made a mistake...the YouTube video I linked to earlier IS one of the new ZIN songs but it isn't the one I was talking about! UGH. Being "Zumbified" the ZIN song is called "Zumba Time!" and it is also VERY fun...but it isn't "Bunda"...sorry...

[MJC]

[QUOTE=Anita Latte;33431919]Here's a question for everyone...

Are there any MEN in your Zumba classes.

But I noticed last night that some of my ladies are acting all shy and reserved for some movements...maybe they were shy and reserved before...this IS a new session...BUT...I did just notice it more last night...so here's my question...
Do you have men in your classes? Do you find any movements to be particularly embarrassing to do because there is a man in the class?

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I’ve had men in my class twice. I think since my class is predominantly Hispanic and we women are pretty good dancers -- and if you’ve ever been to a salsa club you know how hot the moves can get -- nobody seems uncomfortable enough to change their behavior, myself included. I do think we work a bit harder when the men are there – showing off, perhaps? Our room has windows to the rest of the gym so we are on display, so to speak, anyway. I guess I’m saying that in my class everyone seems comfortable or familiar with the kind of movements Zumba requires. I can see though how that would be an issue elsewhere, although it hadn’t occurred to me before reading your post.

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[QUOTE=Anita Latte;33431919] I made a special playlist that involved NO traveling so that everyone could get a great workout without worrying about smacking into each other. One song in particular is a real kick in the butt...and these ladies LIKE their butts kicked for at least one song during class...but the interesting thing about this song is that it involves almost NO foot work...it is all almost entirely arm work above heart level...

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My instructor was battling a knee injury this week and I noticed her class was less high impact with a lot more arm movements. We were all exhausted after, so that proves your point about arms/intensity!

BTW, one of my favorites is the song that goes “my girl has a great big booty, your girl has a little booty” – just learned it’s called Shake Senora. (I hear worse language on the streets of NYC from grade schoolers.) When I go to Zumba, I’m really there for myself and to have a good workout, I can’t worry about the lyrics to every song being “appropriate,” whatever that means. JMHO

[Anita Latte]

I have been bit by the zumba bug..... I am going to training. EEK! Now to start practicing backwards, and learning how to use an MP3 player (I have never yet purchased a song :o ) and I guess I need an ipod.

Welcome! How exciting that you are going to training! This means you are signed up (or signing up) to take Zumba Basic 1? That is a KILLER day!! KILLER. Take a TON of water...and food...to graze on throughout the day as needed...in addition to any lunch you take. Tons of fun. When is your training?

We have a song that has no traveling in it and it is an ab and butt work out that I love. I have downloaded the song and will repeat the song a couple times at the house to get a mini work out in. It's to the FloRida song "Good Feeling", it has a lot of slow controlled swats, arms, crunches and kick boxing in it...

I use "Good Feeling" as a warm up...but I know it could be a great ab/squat song...as I recall this song is brought up on the Zumba forum as a suggestion for this type of song.

I don't think I will actually want to wear a bikini...I have really bad stretch marks for one...worse than Mom...and for another...I just don't want to have to deal with that much sunscreen. :p

I didn't know that Carnaval had Zumba classes? I wonder if that was an instructor that was taking the cruise...or if that was a cruise employee. There have been Zumba cruises. They are very rare...and it is generally an instructor that has worked with a travel agent to form a liason with a cruise line for a particular cruise and basically form a "group." I know of a couple instructors that have attempted to do this...but I don't know how successful they were.

Margaret...Shake Senora Remix with Pitbull, T-Pain, Sean Paul, and Ludacris is a NASTY song LOL!! Kelly has a routine to it that is a KILLER. I couldn't ever do that song myself...I just can't do a song that I don't want my son to sing...I know what the song is talking about...but I hate having songs that I would have to explain. WHINE is a dancehall dance and it is a very sexual dance...kind of a nasty sexual dance actually...but I agree with you, it's a fun song to have in class...I enjoyed it in Kelly's class! :D

I'm doing new songs tomorrow...A LOT of new songs...what in the world?

I'm just doing one new song at Curves: Michael Tello's Ai se eu te pego...which is like, one of the most popular songs in the world right now...it's number one on the Latin charts in the US...It'll stick in your head...and it has an official dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcuArF4SHc&feature=related).

At the rec center...I'm doing new warm up songs...I'm so sick of Moves Like Jagger...I can't stand it...and I'm sick of all the other second songs too...so a whole brand new thing is being introduced tomorrow...I edited the songs together so there is no break between "Hot Wings (I Wanna Party) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuy5YsZGK3c)" from the Rio Soundtrack and "La Isla Bonita (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7AoJ39Gu4)" by Glee Cast Member "Naya" and guest star Ricky Martin.

I am also doing 3 new songs:

Bunda...a Merengue song
Zumba Time...a Calypso song
In a Search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0pBuCCAul0)...a reggaeton song.

Should be an interesting morning!

Hope everyone has a great Saturday!!

[hubb2000]

Welcome! How exciting that you are going to training! This means you are signed up (or signing up) to take Zumba Basic 1? That is a KILLER day!! KILLER. Take a TON of water...and food...to graze on throughout the day as needed...in addition to any lunch you take. Tons of fun. When is your training?


I am taking the June 2 in Madison,WI. Then AFAA group cert on June 16. I have already talked to the person in charge of hiring at the gym, she also teaches Zumba and I went to her class this week. She had me come 'help' her, then abandoned me near the end I guess to see how I would lead. :eek::eek::eek: It was a song I had not done in like 6 weeks!!! But I think it was OK.

I am excited - sounds like so much fun!!!

[Member123]

I'm doing new songs tomorrow...A LOT of new songs...what in the world?

I'm just doing one new song at Curves: Michael Tello's Ai se eu te pego...which is like, one of the most popular songs in the world right now...it's number one on the Latin charts in the US...It'll stick in your head...and it has an official dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcuArF4SHc&feature=related).

Should be an interesting morning!

Hope everyone has a great Saturday!!

As long as you realize that you might see a LOT of eye rolling! LOL.

So, I went to the official dance video and thought the moves were really cute... ok.. maybe a "little" suggestive? So I went to a translator to find out what the Portuguese lyrics were actually talking about and found the translation to be:
Wow, wow
You're gonna kill me that way
Ah when I get my hands on you, (poor you)
Ah when I get my hands on you, (poor you)

which just made me laugh out loud IRL! :D What a funny little song! There are a few people that I could apply those lyrics to!... and one of them is a territorial Queen in my Tuesday night class! Who happened to come into my Thursday morning class, but for some weird reason in THAT class she decided to plant herself in the back row... which was just so very, very OK with me. I had quite a mental struggle with her on Tuesday because she planted herself so close to me that I could barely move, and every single time that I left my "position" to go get a drink of water, she closed up the space so that I almost had to squeeze back. She was definitely trying to get me to move, but the only place that was available with loads of room was underneath a ceiling fan that they just put to the highest speed and it just whips the air! Can't stand it! Gets hair caught in my lip gloss... ewwww... so-o-o-o, I just battled it out with her the whole entire class. Good grief.

BTW, I'm pretty sure the "get my hands on you" part isn't really talking about... well... my situation with a cartoonish strangling of my lovely class mate! I know that! But, to each his/her/their own way of interpreting the specific hands-on application of the song's sentiment! :cool:

... still laughing...

[Anita Latte]

I can't tell if there was eye rolling or not...you know how that room is Mom...but the ladies thought that the whole thing was a bit funny...and I DID give them the translation that I had found...

Wow, Wow
This way you're gonna kill me
Oh, if I catch you,
Oh my god if I catch you

Delicious, delicious
This way you're gonna kill me
Oh, if I catch you,
Oh my god if I catch you

Saturday at the party
Everybody started to dance
Then the prettiest girl passed in front of me
I got closer and I started to say

You wave your hands at your face like your hot on the "This way you're going to kill me" line...which I further translated to a more slang-like "You're KILLING me..." (Because the girl is so HOT, you know?)

That song will stick in your head you know...

After doing that official dance, I have to follow it up with Cupid Shuffle...LOL.

The rec ctr class did not go as planned. I was talking to the ladies and the ladies didn't want a new warm up song...they still LOVE Moves Like Jagger...SO...I picked an old playlist and redid it this morning there. It was a great workout, as always...and the ladies were happy...which is all that matters really.

[MJC]

At the rec center...I'm doing new warm up songs...I'm so sick of Moves Like Jagger...I can't stand it...and I'm sick of all the other second songs too...so a whole brand new thing is being introduced tomorrow...I edited the songs together so there is no break between "Hot Wings (I Wanna Party) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuy5YsZGK3c)" from the Rio Soundtrack and "La Isla Bonita (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7AoJ39Gu4)" by Glee Cast Member "Naya" and guest star Ricky Martin.

Hope everyone has a great Saturday!!

I would be happy to hear ANY of these songs -- no songs in English in my class so far, in fact there is only one song I'm familiar with at all and I don't know the name of it (I think the original was by Selena).

I love the greek dance, though everyone else seems to hate it. I learned the hasapiko years ago. :rolleyes:

[Anita Latte]

I am taking the June 2 in Madison,WI. Then AFAA group cert on June 16. I have already talked to the person in charge of hiring at the gym, she also teaches Zumba and I went to her class this week. She had me come 'help' her, then abandoned me near the end I guess to see how I would lead. :eek::eek::eek: It was a song I had not done in like 6 weeks!!! But I think it was OK.

I am excited - sounds like so much fun!!!

Oh! I am so excited for you to be taking the Group X also! I would LOVE to hear all about that. This is something that I am wanting to get this year. They have special events that they hold in select cities where you can get the cert class for $99 and I was waiting on that...Meanwhile, I ordered an older copy of the manual...just to start reading...

I would be happy to hear ANY of these songs -- no songs in English in my class so far, in fact there is only one song I'm familiar with at all and I don't know the name of it (I think the original was by Selena).

I love the greek dance, though everyone else seems to hate it. I learned the hasapiko years ago. :rolleyes:

Interesting that your instructor does play ANY English songs. Some of the ZIN (that's Zumba Instructor Network) songs are English...I wonder if your instructor is ZIN? And often, Top 40 or other more familiar songs are used for the warm up and stretch songs...I guess though...that if your class is mostly Latin...the more familiar songs MIGHT still be Latin POP...LOL. You ever listen to your local Spanish station? You'd be surprised how there are actually English songs on that station...but also, you might recognize some of the music...I know that I now listen to my local popular Spanish station...Tu Musica :D

[Anita Latte]

The most recent topic of goal setting sparked an interesting conversation between Mom and myself...thought I'd share here.

I've been wanting a decent scale for such a long time...I bought one a couple days ago. I wanted one that had a body fat % on it as well...interesting feature on the scale is the differentiation between being "normal" and being an "athlete." The best definition of "athlete" for the scale's purpose is someone whose resting heart rate is 60 BPM or under...with this definition, I qualify as an athlete. This affects the body fat % calculation...

So here are my stats:

Body Weight: 165 pounds
Body Fat: 25%

There was a time in my life, right before I went to college, when I had spent the summer going to step classes and other doing exercise as one of the few things that I could do outside the house that didn't require spending any money on my part...LOL...and at that gym, they took my stats, which were:

Body Weight: 137 pounds
Body Fat: 19%

With these stats:

40-year old self has 41.25 pounds of fat
18-year old self had 26.03 pound of fat

40-year old self has 123.75 pounds of Lean Body Mass (LBM)
18-year old self has 110.97 pounds of Lean Body Mass

It's interesting to see that I definitely have MORE muscle mass NOW than I had as a younger person. With this knowledge, it only makes sense that it isn't realistic to expect that I would weigh 137 pounds again. The goal in weight loss is to NOT LOSE MUSCLE right? We really only want to lose FAT. If I were to maintain my non-fat weight AND weight 137 pounds...I would only have 9.6% body fat...which I think is very unrealistic.

According to ACSM (American College of Sports Medicine)...someone my age who is well above average in physical fitness would have a body fat % between 18.5 and 23.4 percent. This is the recommended body fat % on the chart.

The formula for calculating your ideal weight based on your CURRENT LBM is:

LBM/(1-desire body fat %) = Ideal Weight

To find my range, based on 18.5 and 23.4 % body fat:

123.75/(1-18.5) = 151.8 pounds (low end)
123.75/(1-23.4) = 159.5 pounds (high end)

This range is my goal...I want to be in the top percentile for physical fitness. So this means that I am between 13.2 and 5.5 pounds away from goal!

How crazy is that?

I'm sharing this because I think's it's important to have our CURRENT goals be based on CURRENT facts, not based on the past. Things change...

Just to encourage everyone wherever they are on their fitness journey...the worst body fat % that I ever recorded was 38.8%...I weighed 198 pounds at that time. :eek: (I never got my body fat % at my worst weight.) That's 77 pounds of FAT...Lean Body Mass of 121 pounds...which means that I have gained a couple pounds of LBM and lost FAT...

You can too.

[kasi1979]

Hi Ladies,

I just wanted to say hello and let you know I´m still here :)
I´ve managed the first 3 weeks in my new job and try to get back in my routine, I was at Zumba yesterday. Annie is ill, so we had some replacement instructors, one for Zumba, one for Zumba Toning, lets put it like this: I am sore in places I was not even aware off...

Take care and read you soon...

[MJC]

Interesting that your instructor does play ANY English songs. Some of the ZIN (that's Zumba Instructor Network) songs are English...I wonder if your instructor is ZIN? And often, Top 40 or other more familiar songs are used for the warm up and stretch songs...I guess though...that if your class is mostly Latin...the more familiar songs MIGHT still be Latin POP...LOL. You ever listen to your local Spanish station? You'd be surprised how there are actually English songs on that station...but also, you might recognize some of the music...I know that I now listen to my local popular Spanish station...Tu Musica :D

Just realized that the ONE SONG that I mentioned is in English! Doh. But, I didn't understand the words until I googled it. It is nasty, but I do still like the dance that goes to it. :o

[MJC]

It's Zumba day! I'm always happy when it's Wednesday. This week I get to go on Friday too!!:D

[kasi1979]

Ladies,

how are you?
I´m fine, even though I´m not doing as much sport as I would like to. Went to Zumba class last night, and as Annie is still on doctors order to rest, someone substituted. Well, we started song 5 and I was still not warmed up. She just didn´t do it for me. So I left class early, which has never happend before.
Anyways, tomorrow evening is Zumba party with 5 instructors, cocktails and fun fun fun.

Take care.

[MJC]

Ladies,

Well, we started song 5 and I was still not warmed up. She just didn´t do it for me. So I left class early, which has never happend before.


It's so disappointing to have a bad class. You miss the endorphin high at the end, which is one of the best parts!

My instructor does an excellent warm-up and cool-down. As you get older those become so much more important.

[kasi1979]

I just finished planting the first flowers as we are finally frost-free and have the first nice days.
I´ll go pack my back and head out to the Zumba party soon.

I tried on some dance shoes this week, which I kind of liked, I have to check into those again...

[Anita Latte]

Kasi...such a disappointment for your Zumba class. It happens. Mom had to deal with the same thing last week. Always wanting to find a Zumba class that I enjoyed was a main motivation for me to get licensed to teach it myself.

Margaret...I would really appreciate it if you would take the time to detail what your instructor does for warming up and cooling down. I try very hard to have a good warm up and cool down. I know that I have improved but I know that I could still improve...I think you would be a great resource for me as an experienced and knowledgeable student to share what your instructor does, especially since you speak so highly of her...if you would?

Meanwhile...classes continue. I am going to be making the announcement of our up and coming move next week...not sure if I should make the announcement before or after class. Seems like a downer announcement either way...but before class, they can focus on the work out and leave with the happy buzz from the work out...but it might bum some people out before their work out...but after class...it could be a total buzz kill...which would you recommend? Anyone?

[Member123]

Meanwhile...classes continue. I am going to be making the announcement of our up and coming move next week...not sure if I should make the announcement before or after class. Seems like a downer announcement either way...but before class, they can focus on the work out and leave with the happy buzz from the work out...but it might bum some people out before their work out...but after class...it could be a total buzz kill...which would you recommend? Anyone?

I vote for... after class. Definitely, after class.

Speaking from a personal experience with an instructor who had some bad news to tell us (her bad news was very personal and health related), bad news before class is a total, total bummer. And, the emotional feelings that get generated with hearing the bad news intensifies with exercise. At least, that is what happened to me. Even though I didn't feel like crying when she first announced her news, by the end of the class I was pretty weepy. So, I'm just saying... after class.

You could announce it after class in a calm manner informing them of an impending schedule change, something pretty low key. You could tell them that you need their support because your DH is already in the new position and you look forward to seeing them and getting energized. IMO.

[delacruz]

I vote for... after class. Definitely, after class.

Speaking from a personal experience with an instructor who had some bad news to tell us (her bad news was very personal and health related), bad news before class is a total, total bummer. And, the emotional feelings that get generated with hearing the bad news intensifies with exercise. At least, that is what happened to me. Even though I didn't feel like crying when she first announced her news, by the end of the class I was pretty weepy. So, I'm just saying... after class.

You could announce it after class in a calm manner informing them of an impending schedule change, something pretty low key. You could tell them that you need their support because your DH is already in the new position and you look forward to seeing them and getting energized. IMO.

I've been reading this board on and off (since I saw on the Fashion board that we bought the same dress for our last cruises - the Sangria keyhole maxi dress...yours was brown, mine was black).

I agree with the AFTER class for your announcement also. I started taking Zumba about 6 months ago, and started squeezing in an extra class on Monday nights for one instructor who I thought was great. Her choreography and song choices were fun, her enthusiasm was infectious. One evening after class I brought her profile up on FB to tell her what a fun class we just had, and found that she had just been let go by the gym - she was helping to launch a Yoga studio, and the gym said that was a conflict of interest. The Yoga studio is a 50 minute drive from here, and I can understand them having her not teach Yoga anymore, but NOT Zumba. :mad:

What really made us upset was that we didn't have the chance to say goodbye to her in person. Luckily she is such an active participant in the Zumba community that I've been able to attend a couple of fundraisers she's been part of, and our replacement for that class made sure to keep all our favorites in the playlist.

SO, that was a long rambling from me, but I think the end of the class is a good time for it, rather than to put a damper on the 'party'. That will give everyone a chance to go home and deal with their emotions, and still have time to come back and continue to party with you until it's time for your move.

Judi

[Anita Latte]

Mom and Judi...Thank you for responding to my question. Your answers confirm what I was thinking and I appreciate hearing from you both.

I've got a great playlist going right now. It has some new songs on it and that newness has great energy...the moves are familiar but just slightly different...and the pace of this list is just really great. This one hour list is a variation of my 45 minute corporate class. Mom asked me to post it:

Moves Like Jagger by Maroon 5(warm up)
Good Feeling by Flo Rida (warm up 2)
Iko Iko by Captain Jack (Pop)
Zumba Time!! by Watatah (Calypso)
La Vida Es Un Carnaval by Zumba Fitness (Salsa)
Cumbia Poder by Celso Pina (Cumbia)
Cuando Me Enamoro by Enrique Iglesias (Bachata)
In a Search by Obie-P (Reggaeton)
Boro Boro (Radio Edit) by Arash (Bollywood/Bhangra)
La Despedida by Daddy Yankee (Merengue)
Hola My Friend by Zumba Fitness (Pacific Rhythm)
Ven a Cumbiar by El Simbolo (Cumbia)
Prrrum by Zumba Fitness (Reggaeton - Core Work)
Take You to Rio by Ester Dean (Pop)
Smooth by Santana (personally edited) (Cha Cha - Cool Down)
Feeling Good by Michael Buble (Stretch)

iTunes says this is a 59 minute play list. (Mom I use my combo "Moves to Good Feeling," if you see that in your library.) The pace of this one is just really great. Nice balance between higher intensity and lower intensity...between songs...within the songs...I just really enjoy this list...such a great variety...good upbeat songs...the class seemed to enjoy the pace as well...I try to read everyone's faces...and it seemed like the recovery songs were spot on. IDK...it was a good match for tonight's class.

Judi...it's nice to hear a new voice talk about their Zumba. :) What a strange deal with the conflict of interest...I know so many instructors that teach in multiple locations...I'm a little surprised by the gym's policy. I have to commend you though for keeping after it...I hope that my own students do the same...for me, it would not be a complement for my students to be so attached to me that they couldn't enjoy SOMEONE else's class. KWIM?

[Anita Latte]

It's a sad truth that the enjoyment of a Zumba class is so closely related to the space available to do Zumba...and how many people are in that space...and whether or not there is enough space for all the people that are there to not only do the moves but also see the instructor...

As a class becomes more popular, the space for each student becomes smaller...

Today...my space available for my corporate class shrinks again as we are meeting in a small-ish meeting room behind the cafeteria instead of in the large pavilion type building where we normally have class. Occasionally, our rights to the room are usurped...SO...today's playlist has limited space available in mind...

Knowing that Mom is thinking about putting together some playlists for herself for her up and coming cruise...here is one that I put together for today...the choreo I do for these songs involves very little travel...with the exception of the new calypso song...but I just can't bear to take that one out...there is one traveling step but we can adjust for that song, I think...so Mom, I would do Waka Waka instead of Zumba Time...and this would be a great limited-space list:

Good Feeling (Pop - warm up)
Zumba Time!! (Calypso)
Chiquilla (Cumbia)
Gasolina (Reggaeton)
Big and Chunky (Pop - Core work)
Bon, Bon (Reggaeton)
Prrrum (Reggaeton - Core work)
In a Search (Reggae/Reggaeton)
Boro Boro (Radio Edit) (Bollywood/Bhangra)
Que Buena Tu Ta (Merengue - arms)
Ai Se Eu Te Pego (Pop - cool down)
Caminando Por la Calle (Rumba Flamenca - stretch)

You may wonder why I usually add the rhythms to my playlists. What differentiates a Zumba class from any other cardio fitness class IS the music...the general guideline is that 70% of the music is supposed to be a Latin/International rhythm...International can include the Bollywood, Bhangra, Bellydance, Irish (Riverdance), Swing (American), African, and of course, any other dance style/rhythm that is clearly identified as being a part of a particular culture at an International level. Latin, of course, encompasses the four basic rhythms taught to Zumba instructors at Basic 1 training...Merengue, Cumbia, Salsa, and Reggaeton...and also Flamenco, Rumba Flamenco, Cha Cha, Bachata, Quebradita, Axe, Soca, Brazilian Funk, etc etc.

And one rhythm should not dominate the class...that 70% should represent a mix of rhythms...

And then, 30% of the class is instructor choice...usually, an instructor uses Top 40 or other popular (or used to be popular) more recognizable music for the beginning and end of class...the warm ups and the stretch...and maybe for a couple songs during the class.

I KNOW this list is Reggaeton heavy...but technically it adheres to the recommendations...there is a mix of rhythms:

Calypso
Cumbia
Bollywood/Bhangra
Merengue

But it is a SAD mix as there is only one each of these songs...so for every one of these songs there is 1 Reggaeton and 1 Pop song...

But this is an unusual class for me, with a song list picked not only for rhythm but for limited movement choreography...but I can use this example to show HOW some instructors can create a class that is TECHNICALLY adhering to the letter of the law...if not the spirit of the law...

This list has HIGH intensity cardio...oh sure...you can slack off with any song...but this is also why there is so much core work...to balance the intense cardio portion...

Hope everyone is having a great day...

I am all involved in the business of prepping to move...slowly and surely, I'm making my way through the house...

[Anita Latte]

So the list was spot on and everyone had a great workout...the cardio is heavy in the first half of class but the intensity of the core and arm work outs for the second half really balance out the class...and the arm work above heart level really keeps the heart rate going...but at a tolerable pace. We were all drenched at the end of class...

Before I leave to get DS from school...I just have to share my comment that I shared with Mom earlier today regarding the work I am doing to prep to move...

Paper is a VIRUS...it SPREADS from room to room in the house and NEVER seems to end.

[MJC]

Paper is a VIRUS...it SPREADS from room to room in the house and NEVER seems to end.

I was just having this conversation today with one of my volunteers.:)

I've been meaning to comment in response to your question about warm-up/cool down but I'm having a crazy busy week. I've been thinking about it and I will get to it, I promise.

Of all the songs you've posted, the only one I've heard in my class is Prrrum, which I have a love/hate relationship with. We also do one I call the "ocean song" which I think is called Onda, and we do Lambada Kaoma, and of course Shake Senora. I don't know the names of most of the songs but tomorrow in class I'll ask some questions. As I mentioned before they are almost all in Spanish. So far I haven't heard any of the pop songs mentioned in the Zumba playlists I've seen online. Last week someone was asking for Move Like Jagger so I know they've learned it in the past.

We are learning a new one that I call the "baseball song" where we do an arm phrase in 7 counts that goes cross open cross open down up down. Do you know which one that is? It looks like the signals the third base coach sends. I think it is a merengue (very fast).

[Anita Latte]

We are learning a new one that I call the "baseball song" where we do an arm phrase in 7 counts that goes cross open cross open down up down. Do you know which one that is? It looks like the signals the third base coach sends. I think it is a merengue (very fast).

That particular arm sequence has a name that I can't remember but I think it has Beto's name in it and it is one of his signature arm movements. It's possible that your instructor added it to her own choreography...I vaguely remember him doing it in one of the recent DVDs but I'd have to look...I will.

And thanks in advance for the warm up/cool down info...you know I'd really like to know more than just the music...I'd love to know the type of movement that she is doing that is so great too. And I totally understand how that kind of "report" could take a while. I sure do appreciate it though whenever you can get it to it.

[delacruz]

So how ironic was this? Tonight my instructor for my Tuesday/Thursday class announced at the end of the class that she will be leaving the area and will only be teaching us until mid-May! I was sort of prepared for it, I was reading between the lines on some of her Facebook posts.

I'm really enjoying seeing how you plan your playlists and the whole thought process that goes into it. I used to teach a 6 hour fashion illustration class to college sophomores, and to keep our energy level up I added music to the class, and worked really hard to match the music to when we were doing quick warm-ups, long studies, etc. Unfortunately that was over 25 years ago, and I had to deal with recording the music on tape cartridges!

[Anita Latte]

I made my announcement to my Curves ladies last night. There were tears. Mom and I were discussing how there needs to be a new word to identify this kind of relationship. It's not a traditional friendship...but it is friendly...and supportive...and reliable.

Judi...that IS ironic...and I can only IMAGINE what you went through to make your mixed tapes. I used to LOVE to make mixed tapes...I would make the best mix EVER and blast it on my Sony Walkman while I took Callaway, our yellow lab, on a long walk while I sang and danced along.

Mom turned me onto my new favorite software program...eWallet!!! OMG...I'm in love with this thing...and I am getting rid of SO MUCH paper!! I feel empowered over all this paper and information. LOVE it. :D

[Bea_Bopp]

Hi everyone. Anita - my thoughts are with you organising your move, very stressful.

We have lots of new tracks in my Zumba class which is great - when you keep doing the same tracks week after week they can get very stale. Some of my classmates don't like having to learn new routines but I think it keeps you alert! Among others we have Tunak Tunak Tun (Bhangra) which my teacher leaves to last (before cooldown) because everyone's shattered afterwards! And La Bomba (Merengue). I love both of those because you feel your actually dancing not just exercising!

[Anita Latte]

Mom...here is the video for that routine that we were talking about earlier...

For everyone else...this video is the exact routine that ZIN members were given to a song on ZIN 37. Posts like this are rather irritating because they break the ZIN agreement and are illegal. BUT, we were talking about this earlier, so, I'm referencing the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SzXZD21oKA

This one has a tweak in the choreo but has the same body roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0pBuCCAul0

This one made up her own chorus, but uses the alternative choreo for a couple of verses...but then you can see she does the same choreo toward the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afr114ohFg0

Anyway...this is one of my current favs...

My chorus: double to the right, double to the left with the "bra fat" arm; then 4 single step togethers; repeat.

Verses 1 & 2: I do the choreo with the taps out to the side and the step ball change in between the sides. You see it in the first video and a variation in the second video.

Verse 3 & the ending: I do knee lifts in a single single double...adding arms during the second half of verse 3 at the point where it says "put up your arms" or something similar in the lyrics. Arms are similar to the arms in the third video...but my rhythm isn't singles only...

It's a fun song...the choreo for verses 1 & 2 is like :confused: for a lot of people...it can bring them to a stand still as they stare at my feet and try to figure it out. Perhaps this will help someone else too...

[MJC]

And thanks in advance for the warm up/cool down info...you know I'd really like to know more than just the music...I'd love to know the type of movement that she is doing that is so great too. And I totally understand how that kind of "report" could take a while. I sure do appreciate it though whenever you can get it to it.

I take a one-hour class, and to me it seems to break down into three parts. The warm-up is 15-20 minutes or so, the hard core is 30 minutes or so, and the cool-down is 10 minutes and usually two songs.

I missed the first song last night (darned Brooklyn traffic!) but here is what I think makes her warm-up good. We do Shake Senora second and it only has 4 or 5 movement chunks that are repeated a lot, so it's very easy to do from an execution standpoint. The movements don't travel and they are close to the body (no high arms or high legs), the tempo medium and the rhythm is simple. It is mostly stepping and twisting, so it really warms up your core and legs (the large muscle groups). We generally work from a wide leg stance. For new people in the class it is easy to follow. It is much simpler and less energetic that some of the ones I've seen on YouTube.


The next song is a really fast merengue but again it's got only a few chunks of movement to learn and they are repeated a lot. We add moving side to side and up and back. Arms are still close to the body but moving a lot more in time to the music. The song speeds up at the end and we add some knee lifts. Again, this is an easy song for new folks to learn. Between these two songs we work first on big muscles and core, and then on footwork and speed, and so I am totally warm and ready for the harder stuff that comes next that combines the two. I think that is why I feel that it's a good warmup.

We do Prrrum pretty early in the hard core section. We do really fast complicated stuff in the middle, and that's when we learn something new (like the one I call the baseball song), and she finishes the hard core part with something familiar and fast like Onda. Onda has a couple easy spots where we get a little rest.

For our cool-down we've been doing a Greek song and a reeeeally slow cha cha. What I like about the Greek song is that we do big kicks and a grapevine, so it makes me slow down and pull back to work on balance and control, and all those fine little muscles in the lower leg and ankle get a good workout. The kicks give me a chance to really stretch those hamstrings. We mostly hold our arms out to the side so it's not complicated but the arms are still working. It speeds up at the end so we get a little more action and then we move forward and back with some knee lifts.

The slow cha cha at the end is mostly a stretching sequence. We do a little cha cha front/back and side/side with some flowing arms. Then we do a stretch and breathing exercise that is sort of like a sun salutation but with our legs wide not together. We do that three or four times. Then we reach to each side to stretch our obliques. Then in a wide stance we bend down nose to right knee, then left knee, then reach our arms through our legs and stretch with our hands on the floor behind us (if we can bend that far). We do a couple more of the sun salutation type breathing stretch. On the last one we bring our feet together and roll up, and do a few more cha chas. Then with our feet together we roll down and do another stretch with our legs together and straight knees. We put the right leg back for a lunge stretch, then the left. We bring our feet together and do this nice little circling thing for our knees. Then we have a couple more big breathing stretches and we’re done.

I wish I knew a bit more of the Zumba "vocabulary" so I could be more explicit about steps. I can tell that there are some common movements because I see them repeated in different dances, but I don't know if they have Zumba names or if so, what they are. I know some of the rhythms from my ballroom days, like salsa, lambada, cumbia, rumba, etc., but there are several that are familiar to me that I don't know the names of or what country they come from because I didn't study them.

I hope you find this at all helpful. If I can clarify anything, please let me know and I will do my best. It is so much easier with ballet, where every step has a name so it's easy to describe in writing.

I originally thought that Zumba was much more centrally choreographed than it is. I have been surprised looking at YouTube how many variants there are on a particular song. I think I understand differently your earlier comment about it being very instructor-dependent.

[Anita Latte]

Margaret...OMG...Thank you! I really appreciate the details in your post. I'm just browsing this morning before taking DS to school...but I am excited to really think about this post. I have to say. I think you have a GREAT instructor. And you are obviously knowledgeable in that you can appreciate what she is doing and the effect that it is having.

Again, just a quick thank you. I have a busy day today and unlike normal Fridays, don't have much free time until tonight.

I'm meeting with the rec ctr director and the two instructors that are going to take over my classes there today at noon. School is supposed to be a half day and lets out at noon, but I'm going to pick DS up a bit earlier to make it on time to the meeting. I'm excited for this meeting. It makes things real, KWIM? And I think I'm looking forward to the break from the responsibilities of class...what will be interesting is what I do to keep working out without the responsibility.

Then, DS is going to a sleep over tonight. YAY! He will be at a friends house for tomorrow morning when I have my two Saturday morning classes. I'm glad for that. But I'll be all on my lonesome tonight...'cept for my Toby kitty! And the internet, of course.

And a hot bath. And a good book. And a glass of wine. :)

[MJC]

But I'll be all on my lonesome tonight...'cept for my Toby kitty! And the internet, of course.

And a hot bath. And a good book. And a glass of wine. :)


OMG me too! DH is having a poker night at a friend's, so it's just kitty Danica and me. Hmm, I think I need to run out for some wine, that sounds good. :)

[Anita Latte]

[SIZE=3]I wish I knew a bit more of the Zumba "vocabulary" so I could be more explicit about steps. I can tell that there are some common movements because I see them repeated in different dances, but I don't know if they have Zumba names or if so, what they are. I know some of the rhythms from my ballroom days, like salsa, lambada, cumbia, rumba, etc., but there are several that are familiar to me that I don't know the names of or what country they come from because I didn't study them.

I haven't watched this entire video. I think that I have this DVD, but I'm not sure. I've watched so many different things, it could just be that I've seen this online. LOL. Anyway...this details different Zumba moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3osJC3FAnE

It's a very good resource for anyone that is interested in Zumba. Watching it may help anyone in class, especially beginners, to more readily recognize moves. Also, it can help anyone understand what Zumba considers to be "proper form" for these basic moves.

[MJC]

Thank you for posting that link. The samba was especially helpful for me since I only know a very formal version.

I found a Saturday class, it was in a school gym so we traveled a lot more but did fewer big arms, with more pop and less latin music. It was fun and a good workout but it's interesting to me how very different it was!

[Anita Latte]

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My cruise is going to be canceled.

Silly nudists. :mad:

[MJC]

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My cruise is going to be canceled.

Silly nudists. :mad:


:eek: What, do they take over the whole ship? It's a little freaky thinking of all those bare asshes all over the furniture....

Not trying to be disrespectful, just wondering.

[MJC]

Happy news, out of the blue today I was asked to cover one of our electives, a social dance class, teaching foxtrot and waltz :D, two of my favorites.

I don't think those are covered in Zumba ;)

[Member123]

So, Anita, here is one of Kisha's newest, funnest songs to do. I think she's made up her own choreo to this, but I recognize certain elements from the choreo in this video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jYXYg47PQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL2AA478BC81858B8A

Anyone else doing this song? OMG... it's kind of fun, but the body roll thing is difficult for me to do. Any "hints" on how to do a body roll?

Margaret, Anita and I are absolutely bummin' about the whole nude charter thing. Yes, because of their "alternative" lifestyle, when the nudies take over a ship they must take over the whole ship. So, it's a full ship charter which means that anyone who has reservations will get bumped. I'm just waiting for the phone call to see what Royal Caribbean feels is an "appropriate" response to us not being able to have a Spring Break cruising vacation with family. My DH thinks there won't be much sympathy coming out of the cruise line because it's almost a year away and they won't feel any sort of "responsibility" for our vacation time being taken away. Unfortunately, because of schedules for work and school, the cruise we booked was really the only one that met all of our criteria for port-intensive days as well as Saturday to Saturday sailing dates. Like I said, I am bummin'. :(

[Anita Latte]

We are learning a new one that I call the "baseball song" where we do an arm phrase in 7 counts that goes cross open cross open down up down. Do you know which one that is? It looks like the signals the third base coach sends. I think it is a merengue (very fast).

Is it this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKb7P4G9VGM&feature=related

[Anita Latte]

How fun Margaret! I didn't see your news regarding teaching the social dance class...I bet you will have a good time with that. And no, Zumba does not cover those as an organization...HOWEVER...at convention there are different workshops that you can take that cover different styles more in depth...I know that "swing" is something that gets included...so maybe they would be covered there?

You know, a Zumba class can only go where each individual instructor takes it. And it is largely up to the instructor to explore different genres of dance. The key is to be able to put a fitness spin on whatever rhythm is introduced to the class. It is why some purists for different styles can get upset in the way Zumba represents the different styles. I believe that Zumba's philosophy is more about enjoying the rhythm and moving your body to the music in as safe a way as possible without the traditional breakdowns and instruction of a serious dance instruction class...you don't go to Zumba to learn to dance...it's just about moving to the music in a "dancy" fitness way.

I'm in such an awkward position with my rec center and Curves classes. There are only two weeks left in these locations...and I find myself so sick of all the songs and routines that I do. And honestly, I know that some of the Curves ladies are sick of them too, and I haven't been able to really bring anything new to class for a while...and so I almost feel like I am ending these classes on a weird note, you know? Like it isn't worth diving into something totally new...but then again...why would I just give up on the new...Zumba is supposed to be easy to follow...so it shouldn't be a big deal to have "new" in the last weeks...

So, I'm struggling with what to do in these classes. I had some requests for some older songs that some members of the class were so sick of...and I played them...and unfortunately, the lady that requested them didn't show up that day...and there were comments regarding the music...I DID say at the end of class that I was taking requests and that if a song wasn't their fav, or they were sick of it, to just deal with it for 3 minutes and move on...and let's not talk about it.

Seriously. I had to say this because of the chatter.

Anyway.

Kelly visited my class last night. She brought me flowers and a card, which was thoughtful...but she arrived late...did her set and then left. I'm pretty sure it hurt my feelings that she didn't come for the whole class...because I was feeling somewhat weepy at the end. And the set she did was something of a killer. She really does know how to get you going without high impact.

She did her version of "Take You to Rio". She got that song from me when she visited my corporate class that one time before she subbed for it, and she liked it a lot, and said that she would like to use the song...of course, I don't care, I was excited to have a song to share with her since I use so many of her routines/song choices...but the way that she interpreted the different sections of the song...OMG...the whole class had a very hard time following that one because it was SO DIFFERENT. Very interesting to have a real side-by-side comparison of the difference between Kelly and myself.

And she did the Pitbull remix of Shake Senora
"Zumbala (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne39CaAmJnY)" by Grupo Extra
"La Bomba Sexy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faavb1kW9Sg)" by King Africa

Very energetic. Very fun...and the class was pretty wiped out by these routines. LOL.

Anyway...I'm realizing that moving is going to give me a real opportunity to establish something of an identity as a Zumba instructor. I was telling Mom the other day that I don't really feel like I have any particular style. Kelly is all about the core...it's just something about the way she choreographs...my abs were feeling it big time from just those 4 songs...and she has the abs that reinforce that this is what her Zumba is about. Her songs are all high energy.

Mom goes to an awesome instructor named Kisha...a former military woman...she has an amazing physique as well...something of a typical brown skinned althetic build with beautiful arms, a flat stomach, and a delish booty :o...and she does GREAT fitness...and can do funny songs like "Whip My Hair Back and Forth" by Willow Smith that a Sandra Dee look-a-like white girl like me could never really pull off with panache. Teddy was a total dancer. Melanie is heart attack Zumba.

But me...well...I don't know that I have a definable style...I think I work more on the structure of the class and don't worry so much about a style. And over the past year of teaching, I have learned a lot...and now I have a chance to sort of polish off my teaching style and my classes. Get organized. Work out a system so that I can be more productive with the time I spend in prepping classes and figuring out routines, etc.

Speaking of...I need to figure out today's corporate playlist. :rolleyes:

[delacruz]

I haven't had a chance to post back after my Tues/Thurs evening Zumba instructor announced she was leaving. Sure enough, the gym didn't give her the 2 weeks transition period she was hoping for, they asked her to not come back. I was very upset by that, as was a couple of other regulars, and let the gym know that I didn't appreciate it. Dh suggested that although they didn't handle it nicely, he could understand their point of view that they were afraid she would 'steal' members away. I definitely let them know my feelings about it when I found out, but I know they didn't give a damn. She had in mind a girl who just became certified but is trying to get more teaching experience to take over for her. She's actually very good, and hope the gym does hire her, but in the meantime we've had subs.

First of all, the gym she's going to is twice the price and is ONLY classes whereas our gym has 3 locations with cardio equipment, weights, tanning, and we can bring a guest for free (except for classes - that's $5/class for a guest). Of course that's why they treat us like cattle that it's a gym for the masses.:rolleyes: However, ironically, they've lost a few members that money isn't an object for who decided to follow her to the other gym ONLY because of how they did it.

I have to admit, I never thought this particular instructor was the best, but they grow on you! The people who are leaving got caught up in their anger, and didn't stick around to see that even the subs we've had until they can fill the slot permanently do a much better class than she did. Looking back at when she made her announcement, she was trying so hard to NOT say that she was leaving for a competing club that she got flustered ended up essentially blurting it out.

Anita, before you worry and think that's how your students will think, just from hearing your thought process of how you plan, present your classes and your knowledge, I know it's not the same. She's 24 years old and is chubbier and flabbier than I am at over 30 years older, and she just can't get the hang of facing the classroom and switching out her sides when turning around - that always makes me laugh when we all start going in opposite direction. The thought that you give that if the space is crowded is wonderful. She will take requests (mostly because except for her warm up and cool down song, she just flips around her ipod until she finds something) and will take a request for a song that has donkey kicks forward and backwards when the class is already too full...that was NOT a good workout as I had to hold back so much. I can see the 2 different subs we've had watching us to make sure we're doing the moves so we don't hurt ourselves and get the most of it, really exaggerating a movement at the beginning so we 'get it'.

I think if you're worrying about going out on a negative note because you and the class is bored, definitely change it up. Just a couple of new songs that are repetitive enough to be easy to learn fast would spark it up and end it in a positive light.

Just my 2 cents - I feel kind of funny giving you advice. But also, even if it may seem boring doing some of the same songs, I know for me that when I know a song well enough that I don't have to think about tripping over my 2 left feet and can really dance it, that's the best time I have. Also, know that as a Zumba student, I find we take a little something from our previous teachers to make US more unique!

As for your 'personal style'...I bet you have more of it than you know. To me, having the organization to put together your classes with so much thought and love for it IS a style.

I wish you a lot of luck in making your move, and don't envy you for the packing end of things!

[delacruz]

I've been folllowing the saga of your next cruise being chartered, and that kind of stuff really makes me angry. I mentioned it to DH, and he couldn't believe Royal Caribbean would do that. Nope, I've seen it before, just because it isn't right doesn't mean they don't do it. Especially on an adults only cruise, they're gonna bring in a whole lot more money from the bars than on a family cruise...bottom line.

I really feel that if they ARE going to do a charter, especially for a 'theme' like this one (ewwwww - to each his own, but thank goodness the Brilliance is going in for a drydock right afterwards...it will need a good cleaning!) keep the sailing closed to the public from the start. Don't get people like us who spend hours researching the available cruises until we find the PERFECT one to fit our needs, schedule our lives around it, and then pull it out from under us.

I'm booked on the Adventure out of Sea out of San Juan also for the week after you were (now that our 'kids' are adults and for are sailing by ourselves anyway we go when Spring Break is OVER!) There's still the possibility we will have to cancel if we can't get decent airfare and if the home improvements we need to concentrate on this year wipe out our budget, but we snagged a corner aft balcony and would HATE to give that up.

Have you looked at the Celebrity Summit leaving San Juan on April 6 for a 7 nighter (San Juan, at sea, Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua, St Maarten, St Thomas and back to SJ)?

[Anita Latte]

Julie...I appreciate your posts! I love hearing other people's perspectives and I don't think it's odd at all that you would offer advice to me. As a Zumba student you are knowledgeable and have an opinion...to share that with me is to help me out tremendously...the good book says, "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed."

And thanks for the encouragement about having style...I don't really want to fit myself into a box...I desire more to think about the class and what is the most beneficial thing to do for a class...I actually want to be somewhat generic...balanced...not too fitness-y...not too danc-y...easy to follow...fun music...safe...with an engaging warm up...and a cool down/stretch that makes you feel like you did something good for yourself. I can't figure out a great adjective for that...I'm in pursuit of being the "Yin Yang" Zumba instructor...to some extent, I think I have achieved that...Debbie, the one that hired me for my corporate class, said that people had been asking about me as an instructor before I started, and she described me as very "middle of the road." I took it as a complement, because it was intended that way.

And about the cruise...Mom had a very involved conversation with a Royal person and she was pretty adamant about the idea that we would be cruising in April 2013 and that all this talk on cc was just talk...with no basis for it...despite what the ONE guy has posted and what the other travel websites have posted. So we are just in a wait and see kind of place.

[Anita Latte]

Judi...I apologize for calling you Julie...I couldn't see your signature and relied on memory...and well...:o

[kasi1979]

Hi ladies,

I´m just saying Hello :)
I´ve not been to many Zumba classes these past weeks, as Annie is ill and I just don´t get comfortable with the replacement instructors styles. Some of them like to jump, andI mean, jump a lot which is not good for my legs...

DH and I had our first standard dance class last night. As my BIL is getting married this summer, we decided to join a beginners class to refresh our poor dancing skills :) We are just three couples right now, so it´s kinda fun and lot´s of space. The dance instructor is Annie´s dad, so we keep to their business...

We are spending tomorrow with my parents for lunch, as it´s Mother´s day in Germany. afterwards we´ll swing by a sport´s store in the netherlands (German shops are closed on Sunday). I hope that they have dance sneakers in store so I can try some on. If they don´t, I´ll just have to order them online. I would love to have some Bloch wave sneakers...

Take care.
And Anita, if your cruise really gets cancelled, don´t be too dissapointed. Better it happens a year in advanced then just a few days prior. This way you can make alternative plans.

[delacruz]

Anita, no worries about my name, and I KNOW how memory can be, especially in the midst of the transition you're making.:eek:

I admire your patience about the cruise - that would make me crazy. I can see if they set aside the date right from the start and don't offer the booking to 'regular' people that it's appropriate to have a charter for whatever group, but to leave you in limbo like this is wrong. I would guess they're waiting to make sure the charter can fill the ship before closing it to the public completely, but how can they fill the ship if you and others have cabins booked? I'm so confused:confused:

For kasi1979, I'm sure Anita can 'coach' you better, but it's so easy to modify Zumba from high impact. My ankles and knees will let me know if I've overdone it, so I just do my own thing when they're jumping - like modified jumping jacks. Now that I feel so much less uncoordinated from doing Zumba, I'd like to take some dance classes, but DH has to be so careful of his back (he's had major back surgery and has all kinds of hardware holding his lower back together) that we couldn't take the chance of him twisting wrong.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!!!

[MJC]

Hi delacruz, I used to teach ballroom dance, and if you're worried about your husband's back, I suggest the "smooth" dances - foxtrot, waltz, tango. They have a very upright posture with no hip movement, and would be easier on the back than the latin (also called rhythm) dances. They may not seem as dynamic, but the smooth dances really work the legs and butt! Plus, they're so romantic. Ahhh, a man who can dance is a treasure.

Anita, as to style, I think really looking at your students and how they are moving can tell you a lot about your style. I agree that aiming for the middle of the road is an admirable goal. I would think that that is what most people are looking for in a fitness class anyway.

I took my second Saturday Zumba class, and sad to say I was a bit disappointed in the substitute. I am still thinking about why it was dissatisfying. I think the pacing or arc of the whole class was off, especially in the middle where you really want to work hard. I didn't get my endorphin rush, and never had that moment where I just want to lie down and die. Yeah, I got sweaty, and the next day I was a bit sore, but not a good whole body type of sore. If that had been my very first class, I don't know if I would have tried Zumba again.

But, now I'm excited for my Wednesday class, which is always exhausting AND fun!

[Anita Latte]

Hello Ladies...

Ya'll seem to be experiencing why everyone, including myself, says that Zumba is SO instructor dependent.

Kelly came to class this past Saturday and it was awesome. She was there early...talking with the ladies...there was a huge mix up with the room, so the situation was irritating as we were trying to get it sorted...finally we got class started...about 10 minutes late. The plan was for me to do my two warm up songs...and that was funny...because Kelly has her own routine to "Moves Like Jagger" and it is TOTALLY different...anyway...Kelly had a new routine and we were her guinea pigs for it...and it was a song I have been listening to and thinking about and the routine was just so simple and fun...STOLEN!!...I did it Monday night...and twice today...in both my corporate class and at Curves...love this song:

Bailando Por El Mundo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgJCcgEUfw) by Juan Magan feat. Pitbull and El Cata

A big hit all over...especially at Curves, which made me happy because I did decide to keep going as if I were keeping going and keep introducing new songs as I have been, which is really about one a week at Curves. I just made sure that the song was fun (check!) and the choreo was simple (check!)...then it's fun to have a new song.

Anyway...I think that Kelly hit just the right balance on Saturday and the ladies really enjoyed her instruction. Which makes me happy...more than anything, I hope that the people will continue to work out. My new stretch song is "I Hope You Dance" which was a suggestion from one of the Curves ladies...when I first played it, they were ready to cry...it was the week I announced that I was moving...tonight was less emotional. I think I'll do that song at the rec center.

Hope everyone is doing well. Zumba has a new line of apparel out...I think it's going to be popular. The camo material is back...and they are capris! Think I'm going to have to get 'em!

[MJC]

Hello Ladies...

Ya'll seem to be experiencing why everyone, including myself, says that Zumba is SO instructor dependent.

I had another substitute, this time in my Wednesday class, and he was AWESOME but totally different from my regular teacher. Very dancerly, a lot less latin, and I finally got to dance to Moves Like Jagger, and do a body roll (so out of practice!). :) He was very easy to follow, which is an important quality in a substitute, I think. However, my knees really hurt today and I don't know if I could do his class on a regular basis. This is how students self-select, and relates to what I said earlier about how looking at the composition of your students can tell you a lot about your own teaching style.


Bailando Por El Mundo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgJCcgEUfw) by Juan Magan feat. Pitbull and El Cata

Fun song!



"I Hope You Dance" which was a suggestion from one of the Curves ladies...when I first played it, they were ready to cry...

OMG such a beautiful song, no wonder your students wanted to cry. I think it speaks to everyone out there who's busting their bu++ in Zumba classes instead of staying home in front of the TV.



You must be an awesome teacher to inspire such loyalty. Bravo!

I taught a two-hour social dance class yesterday, then my regular writing class, and then Zumba, so no wonder my legs feel like broken sticks today. But I don't care! It was fun.

[Anita Latte]

So. I've been needing a new warm up FOREVER...I mean FOREVER...I still can enjoy the same old warm up that I've been doing...BUT...I know that I need a new one. So I ordered the Warm Up and Cool Down CD/DVD from Zumba for some help and inspiration. I did the main warm up from that DVD with my corporate class Tuesday...I thought it was okay...the song was very long...over 6 minutes...and kinda boring?...but it was okay...I did enjoy the movement and the way that the moves were layered...

I tried that warm up again last night at the rec center...and I definitely didn't love it. UGH...I thought the song was done...and I acted like it should have been done...but it wasn't...and I just looked at everyone and made a crack about how I was SO DONE with the song...hit track forward and kept going...

So today...I REALLY needed a new warm up for my corporate class...I had been thinking about it all yesterday...I woke up this morning just after 5 AM...couldn't get back to sleep...gave up on sleep and starting thinking about the warm up...thinking about different songs...etc...

WELL. There is a song...a VERY repetitive song...and when I was first working with it to see if it would work for me...I just couldn't get past how repetitive it was...BUT...by this very nature...it makes the PERFECT backdrop for this style of warm up that I learned on the CD/DVD. And I did it today in my corporate class...and I LOVE IT!!! They loved it too...which is really fabulous...and they admitted that they also didn't love Tuesday...but today...that rocked...so...yay!!

Gonna do it at Curves tonight too!! FINALLY...a song to replace Good Feeling by Flo Rida!!! I'm so excited!!! Sometimes it's hard to find songs that get you pumped up, KWIM? Here it is:

I Like How It Feels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klk8QPcfFYQ&feature=fvsr) by Enrique Iglesias feat. Pitbull and the WAV

Meanwhile...I was asked again today if I've lost more weight...I was asked this past Saturday...but again...I'm just wearing capris that FIT me properly...but I may have to do some measuring and get on the scale again...it has been a while...

[Anita Latte]

Hmmmm....looking for a stretch song for tonight's Curves class...I found "Georgia on My Mind" by Michael Buble...LOVE HIM...I know the ladies love his voice too...so we'll see how it goes...could be a total bomb...BUT...I'm taking advantage of the situation for an easy pick on the stretch song tonight.

[delacruz]

We just used Adele's Someone Like You. Very nice.

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[Anita Latte]

The latest, the greatest...posted TODAY...I know this is Beto's voice...I guess he is adding singing to his skill set? All I can say is he IS hot...:o;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4OwHk61EiA&feature=youtu.be

You may be seeing this is a Zumba class you attend...especially after the Zumba convention in August...

[Anita Latte]

So I weighed myself this morning...

And yes, it would appear that I have lost another 4-5 pounds since April 21. My body fat percentage also went down by 0.6%. I've lost maybe a half inch at the waist? and not much of anything at my hips...I've lost a BUNCH right at the belly button level (which is much lower on me than my natural waist)...here's the big reason why people were thinking I lost a bunch more weight...that belly button level measurement lost about 2 inches! My silhouette has really changed then...it's a more gradual slope from my waist to my hips now...that love handle bump has really gone down! No wonder I've been having such issues with my britches!!! LOL.

Woot woot!!

[Anita Latte]

At Curves this week...I've been using "Last Dance" for a warm up...it's perfect not only because it honors Donna Summer but also because this is my last week teaching at Curves and the rec center. I'm not doing this at the rec center though, but it isn't as appropriate for that class...

Today was a kind of crazy Zumba day for me...at my corporate class, the two instructors that are going to be taking over the classes there visited. They are team teaching, one on Tuesday and one on Thursday, and they can cover for each other if necessary. They came to see the set up and the get a feel for the class. They were very nice. The one girl described herself as "boot camp" Zumba, doing lots of squats and jumping jacks...I thought, WOW, jumping jack girl is going to LOVE you! LOL. She had to leave for end of the year stuff happening with one of her kids. The other instructor stayed throughout the whole class. It was kind of nerve wracking to have them be there...you know? But the one that stayed gave me a really nice critique, complementing me on my non-verbal cuing style...that was really nice. I've never met them before, but we are all friends on Facebook now and will be working together to make a smooth transition...I'm looking forward to that.

Tonight they through me a going away party at Curves. Very emotional for me. I held it together pretty well during the gathering...we did 30-35 minute class...then we had cake and other snacks...they presented me with an amazing going away gift and a card everyone signed. The instructor that is taking over the Tuesday night class was also there. I've met her before...she taught the CPR/AED cert class that I took. She is a sweetheart. She was very complementary as well...saying that the class was a lot of fun...good variety.

Please excuse me while I share these feel good comments...

Like I said, it's been an emotionally charged evening for me...

I realized how much I really care about all these ladies...how much I've looked forward to seeing them week after week...the great atmosphere at this particular Curves...and I know that I'm going to miss them so much...I've been teaching there now for a YEAR...literally ONE YEAR. Wow. It's been an amazing experience...so much growth over the past year.

Anyway...I'm posting this for Mom's benefit too...tonight was a really nice little playlist:

Last Dance: Donna Summer (warm up)
Bailando Por El Mundo: Juan Magan feat. Pitbull and the WAV
Baila Esta Cumbia: Kumbia Kings
Que Buena Tu Ta: Zumba Fitness Cover
Take Your to Rio: Ester Dean
Boro Boro (Radio Edit): Arash
Smooth EDIT: Santana
I Hope You Dance: Lee Ann Womack

It hits all the right notes...great variety in movement.

Hope everyone is doing well. Like I mentioned...this is my last week teaching in two locations. Two more rec center classes. One more Curves class. Wow. DH comes home for a long weekend on Friday! I haven't seen him in four weeks. So looking forward to it. And next week is the last week of school.

We have finalized our moving plans. We will be moving the last weekend in June...and will be in Georgia the first week in July. We are moving into the basement with my SIL...but there is light at the end of that tunnel...as we anticipate moving out in December, if not before.

I will still be teaching for one more month at my corporate class. I'm so glad for that. It'll keep me sane and provide welcome stress relief for the month of packing ahead.

[MJC]

Yes, it is soooo hard to say goodbye to our students. Mine eventually go back to their homes all over the world and I never see them again. I always wonder what and how they are doing. I try to be philosophical about it, but sometimes it is disheartening not to see the fruit of our teaching before our eyes every day, and some of them I just miss.

So, I've been doing Zumba for five weeks now, and I've had four different teachers! Our Wednesday sub was lots of fun, very dance-y. Lots of core work, isolations, body rolls! and some Adele. Very hard, very fun.

Well, I've been avoiding the scale this month, so I finally decided to weigh myself this morning. I haven't lost anything. Bummer.

[Anita Latte]

Tomorrow morning...Saturday...is my LAST public Zumba class. :( I'll still have my corporate class BUT...the time has come when I will no longer be teaching at either the rec center or Curves. So sad. I admit I'm a little concerned about what could happen going from 9 classes a week to only 2! :eek:

Anyway...it was very difficult for me to put together this very last playlist. There are songs that ladies have stated they like so much, that they will miss from my class...and so I have tried my best to balance this against other songs that I like a lot too...my list is a little long...but here it is:

Moves Like Jagger: Maroon 5 (warm up)
Good Feeling: Flo Rida (warm up 2)
Waka Waka (Esto es Africa): Shakira (Latin Pop/Calypso)
Zoomer: Les Jumo (African inspired)
Baila Esta Cumbia: Kumbia Kings (Cumbia)
Danza Kuduro: Don Omar & Lucenzo (Kuduro)
Zu Bailaito: Zumba Fitness (Quebradita)
Jai Ho: Slumdog Millionaire Soundtrack (Bollywood)
La Vida Es Un Carnaval: Zumba Fitness (Salsa)
Dame (Touch Me): Zumba Fitness (Cha Cha)
Pegate: Grupo Treo (Merengue)
Que Buena Tu Ta: Zumba Fitness (Merengue/"Arms From Hell")
Take You to Rio: Ester Dean (Pop)
Boro Boro (Radio Edit): Arash (Bollywood/Bhangra)
Cuando Me Enamoro: Enrique Igelias (Bachata)
I Need to Know: Marc Anthony (Cha Cha/Cool Down)
Feeling Good: Michael Buble (Stretch)

Like I said...class is going to run a bit long...but I just couldn't figure out what I would want to cut out...and it's only long by a minute or two...:o:rolleyes:

Anyway...DH came home last night. He is here until Monday night...he will be back in GA for work on Tuesday. But we are having a great weekend. I just figured out my playlist and wanted to post it. Hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend.

[delacruz]

LOVE your last playlist...many of my favorites too - wish I could attend!

Enjoy the weekend with DH!

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[kasi1979]

Anita,

I hope your last class goes well and you have fond memories of your time, teaching there.

I was to Zumba class last night. Annie is finally well enough to give about half a lesson and has a sub for the rest.
I received my new dance shoes yesterday and trief them at class. I bought block wave shoes and have to get used to the new form. but am amazed how well they glide.

Anyways, we are off to northern germany for the weekend.
Take care.

[MJC]

Anita, you are such a caring and conscientious teacher. You clearly put a lot of time into plannng that amazing playlist -- no wonder your students are sad to have you leave.

Hope you are having a great weekend.

I abandoned Zumba yesterday in favor of waterskiing. Yes, it's finally warm enough! But, we have to get up early to get the smooth water, so, no Zumba. At least I have it for a rainy day backup plan now.

I did have a moment when I was actually not sure whether I wanted it to be rainy or sunny - Zumba or skiing? I LOVE skiing and wait all winter for the chance to go back to it, so that shows you how much I'm addicted now to ZUMBA! If my knees could take it, I would do it every single day.

[delacruz]

Anita, you are such a caring and conscientious teacher. You clearly put a lot of time into plannng that amazing playlist -- no wonder your students are sad to have you leave.

Hope you are having a great weekend.



I totally agree with this. Even Adrienne with (the instructor who just left) who 'acted' so caring, the fact that she didn't think ahead of her playlist and just browsed through her ipod between songs was very frustrating. Sometimes she'd pass over something I really liked, and then I'd be disappointed with her selection. Although we haven't gotten the permanent replacement, all 3 that have filled in come totally prepared, and although some of them do a 45 minute class (Adrienne's was 1 hr), I realize I get a better workout in that time since there is less break between songs. And I guess I can see now why the gym let her go early - she has been trying to get me to join her new gym through FB messages. Her gym is almost twice the cost of my gym. Although I don't always care for how they do things at my gym, I have to admit I get a lot for what I pay for - all the cardio, weight machines and free weights, unlimited classes, tanning (I only use it to very gently get a base before a cruise - I KNOW it's not good for me, but better than getting burnt in the Caribbean sun), and 2 locations.

The other day DH was able to join me at the gym, so I did the treadmill and weights instead of a class to workout alongside him, and realized how I really need to add that back to my workout and not JUST do Zumba. It does work out different muscles.

Anita, I really like when you post your playlist, because when I look up some of the songs I think I'm not familiar with I find that I do know them but just not by name. So songs like Boro Boro and Pegate, which are some of my favorites now have identities!

[delacruz]

Hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day weekend. Anita, I'm so glad you get to spend it with DH!

I'm recovering from yesterday - a whirlwind day...College graduation for DD#2. What a beautiful day for it! She'll be living at home during the summer doing an internship while she tries to figure out the next stage of her life, and I'm hoping to get some mother/daughter Zumba time!

I find that beginning to get to know some of the Latin Zumba songs is really making me want to learn Spanish. (I took French in school and was terrible at it). A couple of times this week I've put on the Spanish radio station while driving, and am actually surprised at how much I can understand (mostly food words during ads for restaurants...FOOD I understand in ANY language!:D:D:D)

ALSO, I'm not sure how to explain this, but I think you all are the best ones to understand since cruising is what has gotten us to this thread....

Cruising and even the time spent planning a cruise is my Zen, happy, relaxed state. In the past couple of weeks we've spent more time planning our April 2013 cruise out of San Juan, and have been researching where to stay and what to do for our pre-cruise time. We've been there twice on port stops, and something about Old San Juan 'speaks' to me and DH. So researching our pre-cruise visit has been lots of fun.

I began noticing that during the Spanish songs in Zumba class that I start daydreaming about being in San Juan and also the Bolero (Latin) bar on the Allure that we sail on in October 2012. So not only am I having fun dancing, but I'm also at other 'happy places'!

Even funny things like discovering Caipirinha cocktails on our last cruise, and then DANCING to the Caipirinha song make that connection to cruising!

[Member123]

Hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day weekend. Anita, I'm so glad you get to spend it with DH!

I find that beginning to get to know some of the Latin Zumba songs is really making me want to learn Spanish.

ALSO, I'm not sure how to explain this, but I think you all are the best ones to understand since cruising is what has gotten us to this thread....

Cruising and even the time spent planning a cruise is my Zen, happy, relaxed state. In the past couple of weeks we've spent more time planning our April 2013 cruise out of San Juan, and have been researching where to stay and what to do for our pre-cruise time. We've been there twice on port stops, and something about Old San Juan 'speaks' to me and DH. So researching our pre-cruise visit has been lots of fun.

Sorry for the chop job on the quote, but I was just wanting to talk to you a little bit about the Spanish/San Juan conversation. I really, really think that knowing just a little bit of the language of the country that you're visiting adds such enrichment to the experience of travel. I know that Anita shares this one memory as being a giggle and a highlight to our recent vacation, in Cozumel. We were at Nachi Cocum, which is a beach resort that provides such a wonderful experience (imo). But, the waiters there can be limited in their English and some people find them to be less attentive only because they are a bit reluctant to speak English, at times. I find that if you attempt to speak Spanish to them, they appreciate the effort and it breaks their feelings of being shy at their limited English... because, quite frankly, they know English WAY better than I know Spanish!

Anyway, we got some hot salsa delivered to us with our lunch and, boy, was it hot. So when the waiter came by (want to call him Jose, but don't know if that's correct), I pointed to the salsa and said, "muy caliente!" He laughed and Anita said "jalapeno?" and Jose responded, "no, habanero." So we all gasped which made Jose laugh out loud... it was just one of those travel moments that make the experience so great and wouldn't have happened if we hadn't tried to converse with Jose in Spanish.

I've got a bunch of other stories just like that one in various places: speaking German to a German couple in Venice, speaking Italian to an Italian in Rome, speaking French in Paris.... and by "speaking" I mean just saying a few words and phrases... but getting the job done! I know just enough to be dangerous! LOL. But I really do want to be fluent in a few different languages. That's one of my goals...

I just wanted to express my support at your idea of learning Spanish. And to say that I think that we're going to be able to move our vacation to a sailing, from San Juan, in June 2013... on the Jewel of the Seas. It will depend upon SIL's work schedule... anyway, anything you come up with in your research (and your current knowledge of San Juan) would be wonderful to hear!

So, to keep this about Zumba... hmmmm... I'm doing Zumba this week! LOL. :D

[delacruz]

Sorry for the chop job on the quote, but I was just wanting to talk to you a little bit about the Spanish/San Juan conversation. I really, really think that knowing just a little bit of the language of the country that you're visiting adds such enrichment to the experience of travel. I know that Anita shares this one memory as being a giggle and a highlight to our recent vacation, in Cozumel. We were at Nachi Cocum, which is a beach resort that provides such a wonderful experience (imo). But, the waiters there can be limited in their English and some people find them to be less attentive only because they are a bit reluctant to speak English, at times. I find that if you attempt to speak Spanish to them, they appreciate the effort and it breaks their feelings of being shy at their limited English... because, quite frankly, they know English WAY better than I know Spanish!

Anyway, we got some hot salsa delivered to us with our lunch and, boy, was it hot. So when the waiter came by (want to call him Jose, but don't know if that's correct), I pointed to the salsa and said, "muy caliente!" He laughed and Anita said "jalapeno?" and Jose responded, "no, habanero." So we all gasped which made Jose laugh out loud... it was just one of those travel moments that make the experience so great and wouldn't have happened if we hadn't tried to converse with Jose in Spanish.

I've got a bunch of other stories just like that one in various places: speaking German to a German couple in Venice, speaking Italian to an Italian in Rome, speaking French in Paris.... and by "speaking" I mean just saying a few words and phrases... but getting the job done! I know just enough to be dangerous! LOL. But I really do want to be fluent in a few different languages. That's one of my goals...

I just wanted to express my support at your idea of learning Spanish. And to say that I think that we're going to be able to move our vacation to a sailing, from San Juan, in June 2013... on the Jewel of the Seas. It will depend upon SIL's work schedule... anyway, anything you come up with in your research (and your current knowledge of San Juan) would be wonderful to hear!

So, to keep this about Zumba... hmmmm... I'm doing Zumba this week! LOL. :D

I agree with you about knowing some of the language enriching the vacation. I'm very lucky that DH fluent in Spanish (HS Spanish and 35 years in the Food Service business). Like yours, our trips to Cozumel have been enhanced by his conversations with the taxi drivers and staff where we visit (yay for Nachi Cocum!). On our cab ride back to the ship on that vacation he asked the cab driver for a recommendation for our NEXT visit to Cozumel for a similar experience, so we went to Mr. Sancho's AI this year. I understood SOME of their conversation when they slowed down!

When I took French I could read a full novel in French, and write fluently, but could never understand it spoken or speak it myself easily. (I'm very visual. It's rare for me to make a spelling error on paper but I can't do a spelling bee, I used to be able to do pages of math equations on paper, but can't add numbers in my head):eek:

DD is fluent in German, and before doing Study Abroad there she took a summer course that immersed them in the language. They couldn't even email their parents in English. I got good at Google Translate, but did manage to keep in touch with her for the summer.

As for San Juan, although we haven't made our plane reservations yet, we're assuming we'll have one day pre-cruise, hopefully to get there early enough to have all afternoon, evening and the next morning for visiting.

We've settled on the Hampton Inn - equally convenient to the airport, cruise port, beaches, AND Old San Juan. We heard there's a public bus that will take us from the front of the hotel into OSJ for 75 cents. We LOVE to take public transportation when we can to get that flavor of the island....did so in Nassau, Montego Bay, and Bermuda so far.

We're travelling with friends who love history, so we'll take them to one of the forts. We already toured San Cristobal, so will probably recommend El Morro for them. That would lead us into walking along Paseo de la Princesa. Really comfortable walking shoes is the key to OSJ! I love just wandering and coming upon some amazing outdoor sculptures, or turning the corner and being at the top of a hill looking out over the water.

I'm glad you've found another cruise to replace your April 6 one. That really made me angry!

OH, and keeping this back to Zumba :p- Monday's Zumba class is cancelled, I will be going to Zumba on Tuesday and Thursday, and maybe Wednesday.

[Anita Latte]

New TICKER!!

DH just left...well, it's been a couple hours now...and he just landed back in GA. We had a great weekend. I miss him already. I'm currently in the land of distraction...the World Wide Waste of time...trying to take my mind off this departure day...which is always the worst right? I have 5 weeks until I see him again. We have his flight booked. The rental truck is reserved. We will be celebrating Independence Day and our anniversary in GA this year.

NEXT year though...we will be on the Jewel!! Woot Woot! A very similar itinerary to the Brilliance cruise. We will all have to talk about San Juan because this is going to be something else...flying there to go on a cruise. I must consult with SIL and her husband...they sailed out of San Juan at the end of March on Celebrity. We will all have to talk this...

I am the OP of this thread...and I approve this topic of conversation. ;) LOL!!

Speaking of Zumba...this week is the first week that I only teach 2 classes. Today, I did not teach at Curves in the morning or the rec center at night. Instead, I ate fast food Mexican...TWICE...and went swimming...where I admired my blue pedi in the midst of the sparkling pool and greenery of the surrounding park...I have the pink nose to prove it. So does DH and DS. :( I'm teaching my corporate class tomorrow! YAY!

And it's almost time for bed. I admit that I'm pretty ready to call this day done...I don't like departure day. :(

[Anita Latte]

Judi...

I think the vacation feel to Zumba songs is part of the appeal of Zumba...IF your instructor picks those types of songs that is. There is a lot going on in the Zumba world where many instructors pick more familiar songs...personally, this is not my fav...I prefer the more exotic songs that make me think of margaritas and beaches...steel drum bands and mariachi bands...silks and desert tents...etc etc.

A funny thing is happening for me...this is my first week of only having the two Zumba classes...my shorter 45 minute corporate class. I haven't had a chance to talk with the ladies that attend there quite as much as I have in the past. Schedules have been crazy for them and they have arrived late and leave quickly...but this week, I've had a chance to talk more...and I think that I have let a couple influence my song selection too much. I've never let it get too out of hand, you know...because I wouldn't do that...but I have let it go too far in a direction where this class hadn't felt too much like ME...not that it should...it should reflect the students...but I don't think that I was forming a very accurate impression of my students.

And it turns out that the ladies who have continued to attend through thick and thin are more like me that I was originally giving them credit for. So I'm going to be working on some new songs this weekend...getting some good workout time in, in the absence of an actual class...and giving my song selection and choreography some serious thought.

Meanwhile...I continue to work on the house. My current goal is to get it clean enough to take some nice pictures for my landlord to use to market the house. We are praying for someone to come in earlier in July so that we can get a rebate on that month's rent. And also...we are praying for a rental to open up in Georgia...DH is feeling a bit abused in his current situation. He vented quit a bit to me last night. Apparently he is the only one who works in the kitchen...so everyone is asking if they can eat his chili, eat his bean salad, eat his strawberries...etc etc...and he is feeling obliged to say yes to these inquiries...when he really wants to say...you know...the grocery store is 5 minutes away...

Speaking of...I've renewed my efforts for home cooking. First, I have a freezer and a pantry to empty. I've determined that the only food stuffs I will move are spices. Second, I need to be careful of my intake since I have drastically changed my Zumba class schedule. Third, I have a young son that needs my help and needs me to cook him healthy food.

In this process I have tried a couple of convenience foods from my local Kroger store. I can recommend two now.

1. They call them enchiladas and they are sold in the deli section in a refrigerated cooler type case where the hot food is sold...like the rotisserie chicken. I would call them saucy burritos...they take a flour tortilla and stuff it full of shredded rotisserie chicken. Cover it in enchilada sauce and shredded cheese (you can pick some of this off). Whatever fits in one of their designated oval shaped packages is $0.99!! These things are HUGE and sometimes they put two smaller ones in one package. See if your Kroger sells the premade pico de gallo for $1.99 and grab a bagged salad. If you heat up the enchilada, add dressed lettuce and a pile of pico to the plate, you will have a traditional Tex-Mex meal...without the beans and rice, of course. The way that the locals would eat this is to spread the pico all over the "enchilada" and eat them together in a bite. Same with the lettuce. CHEAP and convenient...and nutritionally not too bad.

2. Tyson Fajita Kit. It has marinaded beef with onions/peppers, grated cheese, and tortillas. It is skillet ready. Everything is in vacuum sealed packages and it is sold in the meat case. Mine were reduced for quick sale and also had $1 off stickers on them...so I picked this up for $3.49!! It has 6 tortillas and WAY too much cheese and too few peppers. LOL. But for the price, this was a handy dandy one skillet meal. Because of the calories listed, I let DS eat two with limited cheese and I ate one more stuffed one. I did use the pico I purchased with this also. Used the left over tortillas for eggs tacos this morning. Could have had steak and egg tacos...because they was some left over meat and veggie also. Maybe tomorrow. The veggies were fine...the beef was decent enough...nothing special...it wasn't too salty...it actually was a little peppery?...the tortillas were a little dry but that is to be expected...so overall...a nice deal for another easy cheap meal. My thoughts are that the fat and calorie count on the package for one fajita (310 calories) was largely for the cheese...they expected you to use a full one ounce portion of cheese (112 calories)...which we didn't...and I know that the tortilla should be about 110-130 calories...so just do one overstuffed one...limit cheese...add more veggies and call it another decent cheap and convenient meal. Not something you want everyday...BUT...in the interest of giving yourself a break...much better than other fast food alternatives.

Mom is traveling today! Today is the last day of school. It's only a half day. DS and I are celebrating with the Indian buffet for lunch. DS has a 7-hour birthday party to attend tomorrow...so I'll be getting a bunch done around here...hope everyone has a great weekend.

[MJC]

I agree with everyone who says that they like music that reminds them of vacation. I think that's why I like Onda so much - it makes me think of the sea. :)

I've been substitute teaching in the mornings these last two weeks in addition to my job (which includes my own classes), so my fitness plan went completely out the window. Last week I missed my gym days and all I did was Wednesday Zumba. So frustrating!

This weekend we were away, but I did get to do laps in the hotel pool on Sunday, and today I did my usual gym routine. Tomorrow is Zumba day, Thursday another gym day, Saturday Zumba again. I'm trying to get back on track. When the semester ends next week I'm going to start a weekly routine of 2 Zumba classes, 2 gym days, and then our usual weekend sports. I really want to drop some weight before our cruise in November.

Our Costco currently has Sweet Chili Lime chicken kabobs - 150 cals. I cooked them on my George Foreman grill. Very tasty! I find that with a really flavorful food like that (they have a bit of a bite), I don't want to eat as much of it. We mostly eat chicken and fish (DH doesn't like beef or pork) so I'm always looking for new options for dinner.

[Anita Latte]

Hey Ladies! The packing has taken over...and my thoughts and actions are consumed with everything relating to the big move.

I am ruthlessly sorting through things as I prepare for packing. This process does still continue...and I realize how lifestyle can be a help or hindrance to health and fitness goals. Time is the precious commodity...what takes time? Anything and everything that is a responsibility takes time. As I go through all my stuff...I realize that moving stuff is like buying it all over again...sure...it's a discounted rate...but there is a cost to packing, moving, unpacking, organizing, and caring for anything that is moved...and so...

If you read my Earth thread...and how I went through my closet...deciding if I would purchase each and every piece of clothing I owned...I have been, in essence, doing the same thing with my stuff. STUFF should be a four letter word...which I guess it is in some movies...LOL...and as such...;)...it needs to be thrown away if it does not fit into the goals of promoting a healthy lifestyle. I realize that somewhere along the lines I have been blessed...ahem...with the "what ifs?"...and the need to try to prepare myself for "what if" and I have moved "what ifs?" however many times now...and THIS TIME...they are hitting the recycling, the donation pile, or the trash...because I am no longer willing to take on the responsibility of these things that MAY or may not ever be used.

To get done what I want to get done in the time I want to get it done...I have 3 weeks. :eek: This coming Monday is a special bulk junk trash pick up day...and that's a major deadline for me as well.

But things are going well.

We have been doing a lot of swimming. I try to do laps during "adult swim." OMG...it's hard work to swim continuously for any length of time...the little 10 minutes for adult swim feels endless as I do my laps...freestyle in one direction...breast stroke in the other...and I'm PANTING. Holy cow. Using muscles in a new way for sure. I hope all my activity is enough to make up for my change in class schedule.

I tell you what...I have really been watching the food. Not so much WHAT as HOW MUCH...and I try my hardest to stop at the point of satisfied...but not stuffed. Sure I could eat more...but do I really need to? This is the hardest thing. I really like food. And there's something about eating. I like it. A LOT. LOL. So it's a challenge for me to reign myself in, so to speak.

Tomorrow is ZUMBA!! I have a new warm up song...it's called "Back In Time" by Pitbull and it's from the Men In Black 3 movie. It has the refrain from a song from Dirty Dancing. I like it. Did it Tuesday. Doing it tomorrow.

Hope everyone is doing well. Thinking about you all, even if I'm a little quieter in this busy season.

[MJC]

This Wednesday in Zumba was so fun! We said goodbye to two old dances, Fruta Fresca (which I love, si si si) and Waka Waka, which I had never done and really liked so it's kind of disappointing that I won't get to do it more. Typical student, I'm very attached to my favorites!

Saturday class was interesting - we had the sub again, she did much better this time. My main complaints with her are 1. her warmup is so confusing, it's hard to get warm when you're standing there trying to figure out what's going on (and it's not just me); 2. she doesn't always remember her choreo, so the transitions can be murky and we founder a bit; and 3. she does this one slowish song in the middle and she's always off the count -- to me that is a sign that the music is too slow for the step, or likewise that step needs faster music, since she's always on count the rest of the time. I drives me crazy being off the beat! I don't like the placement of that song in the lineup anyways, and I added my own arms to keep my heart rate up. I probably drive her crazy.

Arms are so important. I don't think just holding them up like a club girl counts as arms.

Here's another weird thing, maybe others can weigh in about what's typical. My Wednesday teacher talks to us a lot, in between songs, during songs to give directions, sing along, get everyone pumped. We clap along sometimes. My Saturday teacher (the sub) doesn't talk at all, she just points once in awhile. It's a very quiet class, no whooping or clapping. Very different dynamics between the two.

What is your class like?

[fergusonvt]

Unfortunately my instructor right now is a guy. He is very aerobic but does no dance moves and basically nothing with the hips at all. He never changes his songs and does the same 5 or 6 moves to each one. He is getting very boring and I love it when we have a sub. Looking for a new class close by. The owner of the gym says she is going to talk to him but it's been several weeks and nothing yet. Every week he keeps questioning why his class count is dropping. Dude, open your eyes.

[Member123]

I tell you what...I have really been watching the food. Not so much WHAT as HOW MUCH...and I try my hardest to stop at the point of satisfied...but not stuffed. Sure I could eat more...but do I really need to? This is the hardest thing. I really like food. And there's something about eating. I like it. A LOT. LOL. So it's a challenge for me to reign myself in, so to speak.


And that's the problem with a cruise! Stopping at the point of being satisfied when there are so very many tasty food bits to try. Why is it that our bodies will allow us to continue to put in calories that we don't need? OK, I know the answer is "for our survival," etc., but I think it's an engineering flaw! LOL.

It's so interesting to be on a cruise with unfit people. Now, please, don't think that I'm being judgmental or that I'm being "catty," because what I'm really trying to do is just have a discussion. These people are eating hoards of food and talking about taking the stairs instead of the elevator... and most of them say that they don't gain on a cruise or that they gain very little.

I can tell you that there is no way that I can take a cruise and NOT gain weight. Because my lifestyle just can't be matched on a cruise. I burn about 4000+ calories a week in Zumba classes at home. I eat about 9000 calories a week in normal meals... at home. Usually my breakfast will consist of a nutritious smoothie OR a bowl of oatmeal with blueberries. I have a small tuna sandwich with veggies for lunch. I usually have a lean protein and veggies for dinner. I do have a few lattes a day and a few glasses of wine a night.

Contrast that with a cruise week! I have as much for breakfast on a cruise as I probably eat in an entire day at home. Leisurely walking around and happily dancing on a dance floor (where I certainly don't break a sweat) is just not going to duplicate my exercise time at home!

This cruise was off the charts... the food was incredible! Absolutely delicious. I didn't indulge so much that my pants wouldn't button... or that I felt unhappily stuffed. But, I didn't turn down anything that I really wanted and that included Cosmopolitans during lounge happy hours.

Result was a 4.1 lb scale increase. The first morning of being back, I dropped 1 lb. This morning, I dropped .6 lb... AND I did 2 hours of Zumba yesterday! Burned 1818 calories on the heart rate monitor! Eating normal.. for me...

the body is a wondrous machine. I know that I'll settle back into whatever the body wants to be as I settle back into my routine. Having the week off was wonderful, splendid fun and I so enjoyed myself!

[Member123]

Here's another weird thing, maybe others can weigh in about what's typical. My Wednesday teacher talks to us a lot, in between songs, during songs to give directions, sing along, get everyone pumped. We clap along sometimes. My Saturday teacher (the sub) doesn't talk at all, she just points once in awhile. It's a very quiet class, no whooping or clapping. Very different dynamics between the two.

What is your class like?

When I first started Zumba, I really needed a class like your Wednesday's. Now, all of my classes are like your Saturday. When the first note sounds on the Zumba playlist, we just hit it hard for an hour. There's no real talking from the instructor as my instructors give hand cues. There may be some whooping in class, but it's more rare than usual.

We had a sub that reverted back to the breaks between songs, giving a breakdown of the moves that we were going to do, etc. I absolutely was out of my mind during that class because I couldn't believe how LONG it felt. I kept glancing at the clock and thinking that this class was never going to end. I haven't experienced those feelings in a Zumba class in quite a long time. The classes that go nonstop are just hours that fly by and I can't believe that we're doing a warm up when the time comes!

Yesterday, I did 2 hours of Zumba because an instructor that I adore was subbing for a Zumba Toning class that starts right after our regular Zumba class ends. I thought I'd just stay for the class (especially since I'm getting back into exercise from an indulgent vacation week). I had done one Zumba Toning class and thought it was terrible. Last night's class was THE BOMB! It was so MUCH FUN!

I tell you what... Zumba is so instructor dependent.

@fergusonvt: One of the most FUN Zumba instructors that I had was a guy. Unfortunately, he moved... fortunately his class was taken over by an instructor that I LOVE. I'm going to a class tonight that is being led by a guy and the reviews on him are quite the rave. So I'm excited. If you don't LOVE your instructor, get going to find one that you do. Zumba is too beneficial and too rewarding to be discouraged by a person that you can't enjoy. Don't make the mistake of thinking that guys aren't good; it's just that you have run across ONE instructor that you don't care for. Lesson learned; find another ASAP! IMO.

[kasi1979]

Hi Ladies,

I´m pretty unmotivated regarding Zumba, our classes are so packed that you are always in danger of colliding with the next dancer...

I´m taking classic dance lessons with DH on friday night. Two more classes to go, and even though we took the beginners class, we are so advanced that we are doing most of the intermediate steps by now :)
Pays off to refresh what you thought was long forgotten. Turns out my feet have a better memory than my brain.

And some more good news.
We have acruise scheduled for july. A week up to Norway aboard HAL Rotterdam. That´ll be a series of firsts:
First time Norway, first time HAL...

I´m sorry that I´m not so communicative right now, I don´t spend that much time in front of my computer...

Take care

[delacruz]

Hey Ladies! The packing has taken over...and my thoughts and actions are consumed with everything relating to the big move.

I am ruthlessly sorting through things as I prepare for packing. This process does still continue...and I realize how lifestyle can be a help or hindrance to health and fitness goals. Time is the precious commodity...what takes time? Anything and everything that is a responsibility takes time. As I go through all my stuff...I realize that moving stuff is like buying it all over again...sure...it's a discounted rate...but there is a cost to packing, moving, unpacking, organizing, and caring for anything that is moved...and so...

If you read my Earth thread...and how I went through my closet...deciding if I would purchase each and every piece of clothing I owned...I have been, in essence, doing the same thing with my stuff. STUFF should be a four letter word...which I guess it is in some movies...LOL...and as such...;)...it needs to be thrown away if it does not fit into the goals of promoting a healthy lifestyle. I realize that somewhere along the lines I have been blessed...ahem...with the "what ifs?"...and the need to try to prepare myself for "what if" and I have moved "what ifs?" however many times now...and THIS TIME...they are hitting the recycling, the donation pile, or the trash...because I am no longer willing to take on the responsibility of these things that MAY or may not ever be used.

To get done what I want to get done in the time I want to get it done...I have 3 weeks. :eek: This coming Monday is a special bulk junk trash pick up day...and that's a major deadline for me as well.

But things are going well.

We have been doing a lot of swimming. I try to do laps during "adult swim." OMG...it's hard work to swim continuously for any length of time...the little 10 minutes for adult swim feels endless as I do my laps...freestyle in one direction...breast stroke in the other...and I'm PANTING. Holy cow. Using muscles in a new way for sure. I hope all my activity is enough to make up for my change in class schedule.

I tell you what...I have really been watching the food. Not so much WHAT as HOW MUCH...and I try my hardest to stop at the point of satisfied...but not stuffed. Sure I could eat more...but do I really need to? This is the hardest thing. I really like food. And there's something about eating. I like it. A LOT. LOL. So it's a challenge for me to reign myself in, so to speak.

Tomorrow is ZUMBA!! I have a new warm up song...it's called "Back In Time" by Pitbull and it's from the Men In Black 3 movie. It has the refrain from a song from Dirty Dancing. I like it. Did it Tuesday. Doing it tomorrow.

Hope everyone is doing well. Thinking about you all, even if I'm a little quieter in this busy season.

I hope your packing is continuing to going well. It really is so much work sorting through everything, and I'm the WORST about not letting things go...'you never know when you might need that'! Even at work today at one of my clients I replaced several very old beat up network cables with newer cables and had a hard time throwing the old ones away:o.

DH talks sometimes about moving to Florida (mostly to be closer to more cruise ports...lol), and the thought about all the closets and 'crap' to go through is overwhelming. I know - it sounds like I ought to be on 'Hoarders', but it's really not that out of control :rolleyes:. Luckily I have lots of good storage spaces in my house, it's just that I'm a sentimental fool!:D

It's amazing how when you think you're in decent shape but then do a different type of exercise you find....you're not! Not really, but with the issues with our Tues/Thurs Zumba class still having subs or being cancelled I've gone back to using the treadmill and the machines at the gym. My aerobic capacity is better since doing Zumba, but I can feel I'm working different muscles, especially using the incline.

Judi

[dlabout]

Hello to my fellow Zumba-holics!

I'm a 7 day a week-er these days. It is the highlight of my day to be honest. I work in computers and needless to say the cube world doesn't do much for keeping my weight in check. Zumba has proven to be a wonderful outlet for me. I love my instructors and have been known to teach from time to time. Hardest part for me is when we are cruising and I can't get my Zumba fix. I also tend to be in the minority since I'm a guy who loves to dance. My wife doesn't feel the urge to shake her booty as I do :).
Our next cruise is on Freedom of the seas on August 12th. I've heard rumor that there is Zumba by the pool in the morning but we shall see. I just got my latest Zumba choreography in the mail and am going to learn some new songs this week. In addition I will be at the Zumba convention from August 8th through the 12th so I should have some good songs to travel with.
Just pleased as can be to find so many of you that share the passion.
-Doug

[Anita Latte]

Hey Everyone!

Just a quick note here because it is pretty late...

My countdown is at 14 days for my goal of being packed!

Kasi...good to hear from you, I totally understand about not being in front of the computer as much. Bummer about the crowded classes...

Judi...stuff...Debbie, the one that hired me for my corporate class said she's been reading a book called something like "Allfuenza" which is a combo word of affluence and influenza...while she was sharing to me about her stuff...and she had moved with her job every so many years...but still, hates the concept of moving...and talks about stuff also...I tell you what...dealing with it...it's very freeing to do this...

fergusonvt...find a new instructor! There are so many...and styles vary with as many instructors as there are...don't be turned off to men instructors...all the men that I have been privileged to take classes with have been amazing.

Speaking of...Doug...welcome! I need to get the mail! I know others have gotten ZIN 39 already but I've been lazy with the mail...:o...I wish I could go to convention...this year isn't my year for that though...I would LOVE to hear all about it! Are you in Denver proper? I lived in Loveland...and was married there...and still have family on the front range from Colorado Springs to Loveland...lovely place...but Denver wasn't my fav...didn't care for the traffic. And now I live in Houston! Which is even worse! Sounds like you sub?

[Anita Latte]

This made me chuckle...

Someone posted this on Facebook:

"I just burned 1200 calories














I forgot the pizza in the oven...

LOL!

[delacruz]

This Wednesday in Zumba was so fun! We said goodbye to two old dances, Fruta Fresca (which I love, si si si) and Waka Waka, which I had never done and really liked so it's kind of disappointing that I won't get to do it more. Typical student, I'm very attached to my favorites!

Saturday class was interesting - we had the sub again, she did much better this time. My main complaints with her are 1. her warmup is so confusing, it's hard to get warm when you're standing there trying to figure out what's going on (and it's not just me); 2. she doesn't always remember her choreo, so the transitions can be murky and we founder a bit; and 3. she does this one slowish song in the middle and she's always off the count -- to me that is a sign that the music is too slow for the step, or likewise that step needs faster music, since she's always on count the rest of the time. I drives me crazy being off the beat! I don't like the placement of that song in the lineup anyways, and I added my own arms to keep my heart rate up. I probably drive her crazy.

Arms are so important. I don't think just holding them up like a club girl counts as arms.

Here's another weird thing, maybe others can weigh in about what's typical. My Wednesday teacher talks to us a lot, in between songs, during songs to give directions, sing along, get everyone pumped. We clap along sometimes. My Saturday teacher (the sub) doesn't talk at all, she just points once in awhile. It's a very quiet class, no whooping or clapping. Very different dynamics between the two.

What is your class like?

It's hard for me to say since I haven't had a particular instructor for more than a few months at a time if a song ever really gets 'retired'. Some of the instructors I've had will play almost the same playlist every time with maybe only minor changes, others really change it up quite a bit. I hadn't heard of 'fruta fresca', but just listened to it - really nice.

What you say about the different styles is so true. As Anita and her mom always say -the class can be SO instructor driven at times. The last instructor who my gym let go (I liked her personally, but not the best instructor) stopped between every song first to pick one out (while she was scrolling past songs I'd hear a song I recognized and love, but she'd pass right by it:mad:) to give instructions on any 'tricky part'. It was pretty useless, and really put too much time between songs. Just start dancing and I'll figure it out!

We just got a new 'permanent' instructor for the Thursday class who stated before the class that she talks a lot and gives instruction. I was a bit worried...here we go again. But the instruction was so brief, she never had to stop her pre-set playlist :) to fill us in too much, and the best thing she did was show the higher and lower impact moves so we could choose. I really liked that because with my knees and ankles, I've always had to modify any moves where both feet are supposed to be off the ground, and it was good that she really made it acceptable.

She had a couple of songs in her playlist that I hadn't heard since my first Zumba class that I love...I was so happy - and probably the people behind me in class wondered who that showoff was keeping right up with her:D.

But then - I wonder if any of you have had this and how you handle it - she did a couple of songs that were choreographed SO differently from what I know. One of them was OK once I started following her lead, but the other one my body kept on wanting to do it the way I know! I think that was Danza Kuduro. By the end of the number I think I found the right balance between being a part of the group but adding my own 'flair'.

[delacruz]

Hello to my fellow Zumba-holics!

I'm a 7 day a week-er these days. It is the highlight of my day to be honest. I work in computers and needless to say the cube world doesn't do much for keeping my weight in check. Zumba has proven to be a wonderful outlet for me. I love my instructors and have been known to teach from time to time. Hardest part for me is when we are cruising and I can't get my Zumba fix. I also tend to be in the minority since I'm a guy who loves to dance. My wife doesn't feel the urge to shake her booty as I do :).
Our next cruise is on Freedom of the seas on August 12th. I've heard rumor that there is Zumba by the pool in the morning but we shall see. I just got my latest Zumba choreography in the mail and am going to learn some new songs this week. In addition I will be at the Zumba convention from August 8th through the 12th so I should have some good songs to travel with.
Just pleased as can be to find so many of you that share the passion.
-Doug

Hi Doug!

I work in computers also, and actually look forward to the days when I have to physically move computers around. Now that I'm in better shape from an exercise I really love I'm not so self-conscious about my butt sticking out from under a desk, or having to get up off the floor at almost 57 years old! But those days spent at the computer, it feels so good to go change into my workout clothes.

My DH would LOVE to join us in Zumba, but I've mentioned before, with all the hardware in his back from major surgery he can't risk it. Our gym is funny that we don't get a lot of guys that are regulars - sometimes we have 3 or 4 guys in a class of 30, other times none.

We were on the Freedom last November and I had only started Zumba a couple of months before that, but was hoping there would be Zumba or something like it on board. There was only one posting in the Compass for something like a 'Latin Line Dancing class' in one of the lounges at 1pm on a sea day that I think was their way of doing Zumba without a certified instructor, but when I showed up on time there were only a handful of cruisers that were waiting, no instructor, so I left. I passed by a bit later and I guess she finally did show up, but nobody was sweating!

One thing I did do on the Freedom that was SO much fun was the Flash Mob. I figured that even though I was still a Zumba newbie, I could follow the choreography. We did it just before the Quest, and it was a blast! We only had 1/2 practice beforehand.

Judi

[Chelleum]

I took a couple of Zumba classes, at the gym that close to my job, and I really didn't care for Zumba. Now that I'm taking Zumba at the gym closer to my home. I actually like Zumba, it really depends on the instructor. I'm going to do Zumba today which they have back to back Zumba classes on Sundays. Fun and great workout!!!:D

[MJC]

The last instructor who my gym let go (I liked her personally, but not the best instructor) stopped between every song first to pick one out (while she was scrolling past songs I'd hear a song I recognized and love, but she'd pass right by it:mad:) to give instructions on any 'tricky part'.

My two instructors teach any tricky step coming up in a new song at the beginning of class, so we don't have to stop in the middle. My Wednesday teacher who talks occasionally to give directions never stops our class to do it, so we keep breathing pretty hard. I'm glad she doesn't take breaks. She has her playlist set at the beginning and we just roll. Your teacher would drive me nuts too.

She did a couple of songs that were choreographed SO differently from what I know. One of them was OK once I started following her lead, but the other one my body kept on wanting to do it the way I know!

Your comment got me thinking about muscle memory, which can be great when it allows us to work harder because we know what's coming and keeps us from injury. But I know from my dance career that it can also work against you, because our bodies become more efficient doing the familiar, and then we are working less hard and burning fewer calories to boot. For dancers, this is part of the point of the rehearsal process, so the final result looks effortless and complete. But for Zumba, we need to change it up often. Some people would characterize this ease as getting lazy, but really it is just the result of consistent practice and needs to be recognized by the teacher and adjusted for by adding new stuff.

It's sad to say goodbye to fun songs, but your teacher is doing right by you if they don't repeat for too long.

[MJC]

After my wonderful Saturday class, I got to thinking about what takes a class from good to great. So, here is my unofficial grading scale of classes:

ok - gives a good workout, and doesn't hurt you

good - high energy and fun, and targets all the muscle groups

great - all the above, plus truly thoughtful


She told us the focus of the day was abs, and it was enlightening and amazing that we could dance for an hour and get such an abs workout at the same time without thinking about it. Not just generic "core," but real specific targeting and yet it felt like dancing at the same time.

Then our cool-down was to Taylor Swift's "Breathe", and the way she choreographed the stretches to the lyrics was exquisite. In the middle she actually stretched our sacro-iliac joint, which is what I sprained several years ago so I went "Hmm, this is great!" in my head. :)

Zumba high all weekend!

[Member123]

Margaret, you are so aware of your body and the way that it moves. I can feel the dancer's soul in you when you describe movement, etc. For me, I'm a very practical and analytical Zumba student. I usually have a mental tape that says things like... well, there's my quad muscle... and, there's my transverse abdominus getting engaged...:D

We had a sub teacher for Sunday's class. There was a girl in the front row and she is, perhaps, what you would call an energetic Zumba student. Ask me if she can make me "nuts" sometimes and I would answer that she does. At one point, she actually turned to another student and asked why we were doing this particular step. I answered... to engage our gastrocnemius and soleus muscles in a way that is far more interesting than doing calf raises or squats or lunges.

I have a history with this particular student. Anita knows this story. I think that she came into MY class while I was gone on our Spring Break cruise, so when I returned to class she was in MY spot. Actually, what happened is that I came to class on the earlier side of the start time (like I usually do) and was standing in MY spot. She came in... kind of glared at me.. and squeezed into a spot that she made that was far too close to both me and the person beside me. :confused: She kind of pushed on me all through class and I know that you all know what I mean. This happened again... and again.. and again. Uh-oh. Does everyone here know how stubborn I am? Apparently, she's pretty stubborn too... but I'm can't-budge-a-boulder stubborn, so simply no contest.

on Sunday, I caught her and a few other students discussing a 60-year old instructor. I didn't know that one of the instructors that I haven't attended a class with was 60-years old, but that's pretty cool. Anyway, they were comparing her energy level with a very bouncy Zumba instructor (Melanie, for Anita's benefit). I told them that they needed to stop being amazed about the 60-year olds because, mentally, they needed to stay prepared to do Zumba way past that age point and I could say something because that instructor and I shared a decade. So, that broke the ice, so to speak, with this young lady that has been having a territorial cold war with me.

She told me that she's an energetic exerciser and that I'm an energetic exerciser and that she's so "motivated" by my ability to exercise and look younger than I am... you know sometimes there's no good way to express a compliment about what, to some, is a touchy subject. Anyway, she said that she hoped she wasn't getting in my way. We had a good discussion. It's a packed class and, of course, she's getting in my way AND I'm getting in her way. But, realistically, there's nothing we can do about it if we want to continue coming to that very popular class. It'll be interesting to see how, if anything, things change between us now that we've introduced ourselves and are no longer strangers. When you've spoken and exchanged names, you are no longer strangers. :D

I had just about rid myself of the cruise weight, and then this weekend I blew my diet. I just blew it up big... kind of gross.. and I don't know why. I didn't really even enjoy eating the huge bag of chips that I ate like... watch my dust FAST... by the handfuls. I felt gross after eating all those potatoes and oil and salt... just gross. And I had had a super healthy dinner! Grilled salmon with a mango/avocado salsa and broccoli. Super yummy. I have got to find the equivalent of chips in a healthy snack. I'm annoyed with myself this morning. I didn't even weigh, because I really don't want to know. I'll just do my Zumba week and then weigh next weekend. :mad:

[delacruz]

Your comment got me thinking about muscle memory, which can be great when it allows us to work harder because we know what's coming and keeps us from injury. But I know from my dance career that it can also work against you, because our bodies become more efficient doing the familiar, and then we are working less hard and burning fewer calories to boot. For dancers, this is part of the point of the rehearsal process, so the final result looks effortless and complete. But for Zumba, we need to change it up often. Some people would characterize this ease as getting lazy, but really it is just the result of consistent practice and needs to be recognized by the teacher and adjusted for by adding new stuff.

It's sad to say goodbye to fun songs, but your teacher is doing right by you if they don't repeat for too long.

I definitely can see what you're saying about not getting too lazy. I'm thinking for me though, I'm still enough of a newbie that knowing the song well makes me get a better workout since I'm not fumbling or spending time concentrating on what I'm 'supposed' to be doing, but really getting into dancing full out and enjoying it.

I have to give the Zumba instructors with the really varied playlists a lot of credit - there might be a few songs that they repeat once in a while, but the fact that they know the choreography for SO many songs impresses me.

[delacruz]

Margaret, you are so aware of your body and the way that it moves. I can feel the dancer's soul in you when you describe movement, etc. For me, I'm a very practical and analytical Zumba student. I usually have a mental tape that says things like... well, there's my quad muscle... and, there's my transverse abdominus getting engaged...:D

We had a sub teacher for Sunday's class. There was a girl in the front row and she is, perhaps, what you would call an energetic Zumba student. Ask me if she can make me "nuts" sometimes and I would answer that she does. At one point, she actually turned to another student and asked why we were doing this particular step. I answered... to engage our gastrocnemius and soleus muscles in a way that is far more interesting than doing calf raises or squats or lunges.

I have a history with this particular student. Anita knows this story. I think that she came into MY class while I was gone on our Spring Break cruise, so when I returned to class she was in MY spot. Actually, what happened is that I came to class on the earlier side of the start time (like I usually do) and was standing in MY spot. She came in... kind of glared at me.. and squeezed into a spot that she made that was far too close to both me and the person beside me. :confused: She kind of pushed on me all through class and I know that you all know what I mean. This happened again... and again.. and again. Uh-oh. Does everyone here know how stubborn I am? Apparently, she's pretty stubborn too... but I'm can't-budge-a-boulder stubborn, so simply no contest.

on Sunday, I caught her and a few other students discussing a 60-year old instructor. I didn't know that one of the instructors that I haven't attended a class with was 60-years old, but that's pretty cool. Anyway, they were comparing her energy level with a very bouncy Zumba instructor (Melanie, for Anita's benefit). I told them that they needed to stop being amazed about the 60-year olds because, mentally, they needed to stay prepared to do Zumba way past that age point and I could say something because that instructor and I shared a decade. So, that broke the ice, so to speak, with this young lady that has been having a territorial cold war with me.

She told me that she's an energetic exerciser and that I'm an energetic exerciser and that she's so "motivated" by my ability to exercise and look younger than I am... you know sometimes there's no good way to express a compliment about what, to some, is a touchy subject. Anyway, she said that she hoped she wasn't getting in my way. We had a good discussion. It's a packed class and, of course, she's getting in my way AND I'm getting in her way. But, realistically, there's nothing we can do about it if we want to continue coming to that very popular class. It'll be interesting to see how, if anything, things change between us now that we've introduced ourselves and are no longer strangers. When you've spoken and exchanged names, you are no longer strangers. :D

I had just about rid myself of the cruise weight, and then this weekend I blew my diet. I just blew it up big... kind of gross.. and I don't know why. I didn't really even enjoy eating the huge bag of chips that I ate like... watch my dust FAST... by the handfuls. I felt gross after eating all those potatoes and oil and salt... just gross. And I had had a super healthy dinner! Grilled salmon with a mango/avocado salsa and broccoli. Super yummy. I have got to find the equivalent of chips in a healthy snack. I'm annoyed with myself this morning. I didn't even weigh, because I really don't want to know. I'll just do my Zumba week and then weigh next weekend. :mad:


Ha, that's so funny. I have MY favorite spot too, and although I'm one of the more 'regular' regulars at the Tues/Thurs class, a lot of time it's really tight timing for me after work, and I get there just as class is starting. You enter the room at the back of the class, and I HATE to stand in the back...especially since we don't have a raised platform for the instructor in that room. So I do a lot of weaving, but really try to get closer without being obnoxious.

There is one girl that comes on Thursday that I'm pretty sure is mentally challenged...and talk about vigorous exercising! She is SO fully into it but really clears a wide area. I've been happy that she has always stayed towards the middle or back of the room...but now she's been in MY territory! :eek: Makes it interesting. she seems very sweet though, if now all arms and legs everywhere!

Oh, and potato chips...I can't even 'go there'. I have NO control with that one food.

[Anita Latte]

Hello Everyone...

I'm packing like crazy...it's a full time job...it's the kind of thing that can drive you crazy...because while you are still living in the house and dependent on the things that WILL eventually have to be packed...so you can't pack certain things until closer to the time that you are ACTUALLY moving...well...since you can't just close the book, so to speak, on various rooms...I just have to believe that I am making enough progress every day to actually get the job done by our moving date.

I've missed out on some conversation...

SO...

MY Zumba classes are a bit on the quiet side...my Curves classes were more chatty...because we had to have a break of sorts between songs in order to comply with the idea of a circuit. It's how we had permission to do Zumba instead of Zumba in the Circuit...

In my other classes...I'll talk a bit in the silence between songs...little reminders...I have a song that my ladies dubbed "Arms from hell" and so I usually say something like "Don't let your arms wiggle!" and give some other sort of pointer in the time in between...or talk encouragement...

I'm not a big shouter during class...lately though...I have been letting loose a bit more during my corporate class...especially during an especially grueling song...my routine to "Gasolina" by Daddy Yankee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKrc3A6HHM) (I should say Kelly's routine...) is one that kicks most people in the rear end ;)...and there are a couple spots that are fitting for a bit of verbal whooping...and a couple other songs where I chime in on the lyrics...like "Big and Chunky" by Will.I.Am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCC-pziyNBc).

I'm not a big fan of the forced party atmosphere in a Zumba class...and so I don't strive for that...but I do like chatty, helpful talking...as well as any appropriate encouraging sounds during routines.

Chelleum...Zumba classes are completely instructor dependent...it is not a regulated type of license...Les Mills classes (Body Pump, etc.) are totally prescribed by the people that created the classes...the instructor is given everything to teach and MUST use the materials given...with Zumba, the instructor can basically do whatever they want so long as their music selection falls within certain broad guidelines and their song choreography follows a formula taught in training. Instructors can choose to use one of the given choreographies (we get two different ones everyone other month)...do a combination of the two choreos...do their own choreo...OR do songs and choreo that the Zumba Office never provided.

Interesting discussion about muscle memory...I agree that you can get "lazy" with moves if you become too familiar...there is progression...you learn the routine...then you reach a point of great comfort because you really know what you are doing...if you love the song and the moves...you can stay in the comfort phase, really getting into the song and the moves...but there is a fine line between that and being TOO familiar...where you don't give it your all...especially if you are "sick of the song or moves." I like to try to pull a song before it hits that phase...and then bring it back in a rotational basis.

Like right now...for my corporate class...I really don't have the time to do new routines...I'm too busy with packing...BUT...since I have been teaching there since October...I'm pulling out oldies and goodies to spice up what we are doing and add variety. It's working well from what I can interpret.

And on the subject of territory...I went to lunch with a couple of former students last Friday...and they were talking about how many people were in the Saturday classes at the Rec Ctr with Kelly now...and one of the ladies is losing her spot...I was encouraging her to push back! LOL. It really is rough when space is limited and you have to deal with so many people.

I was telling Mom today that the thing I miss most about my Zumba schedule is the stress relief from class...in class, I don't think about anything else...I'm just into the music and the moves...and I am very present in the present...out of the house...away from "my office"...it's social...and I miss that a lot. I'm looking forward to having the Zumba community to rely on with this move...it may take a while...but I'm glad to have this as a kind of "in" to start meeting new people in a new location.

[dlabout]

Anita, I always find it funny about the "MY" spot. So many times I will be in a new class and I will wait until all the "MY" spots are filled to find some place to shake it. It just reminds me of the scene from West Side story with the line of guys snapping their fingers. RUMBLE over the spot. LOL. I am a front row Devo and know that due to my energy I need a little room. For the most part I have found my Zumba friends to be accomodating. Now at the convention with 10,000 of my fellow Zumba instructors I expect to be limited on space. Should be a wonderful experience.

To answer your question Anita, I live in Arvada which is on the west side of Denver proper. We are about 20 minutes to the mountains if that gives you an idea. I am about 48 days to convention and then Freedom of the seas. YEAH!

[zumbaguy]

If any of you are on a cruise with me there will be an impromptu Zumba session! Top deck at sunrise! Holla!

[MJC]

I have my fingers crossed that we will have some Zumba on my Nov. Princess cruise - 5 sea days so I'll have to find some exercise or go bonkers.

I have a favorite spot now after about seven weeks. It's weird in my gym Zumba class because everyone hangs out on the sides until the teacher starts, so it's hard to tell whose spot is whose. When I started I tried to respect the regulars and let them get "their" spots first, but I ended up in the back with the clueless crowd. Except for the first row people, it seems very erratic so now I get there 5 mins early to be in the second row on the side. We do have one lovely lady who is at least 70 and she's a floater. I know now to avoid the left side of the room, because she is all over the place and everyone is polite and shifts around her all through class. That drives me nuts. I like to stand behind this one girl who really knows the steps and keeps her spacing consistent.

My dance classes were much more disciplined and hierarchical than this, and everyone knew the etiquette, so this seeming free-for-all has been a challenge for me to adjust to. There have been people wandering in 15-20 minutes late and squeezing in, which would never happen in a professional class. I'm good at holding my space, though, and try to be firm but polite about how much someone can crowd me. Since I can't jump I wanna move big. ;)

Since it was 95 degrees last night when I went to class, our teacher said she was going to take it easy on us so we wouldn't drop like flies. But she didn't! Sometimes a slower song can really kick your bu++.

[MJC]

I believe we were doin' the hustle last night :D do do do, do do, do do do do....

[fergusonvt]

I'm so frustrated. I love my Zumba and the instructor we have at the gym I go to finally changed his music with some prompting but he never took the time to come up with actual routines and changes it every week. He is doing more jazz aerobics type moves and I'm sick of it. I found another class that I can stop at on my way home on Tuesdays so I can at least do it Monday's, Tuesday's and Wednesday's.

[delacruz]

I'm so frustrated. I love my Zumba and the instructor we have at the gym I go to finally changed his music with some prompting but he never took the time to come up with actual routines and changes it every week. He is doing more jazz aerobics type moves and I'm sick of it. I found another class that I can stop at on my way home on Tuesdays so I can at least do it Monday's, Tuesday's and Wednesday's.

That's SO frustrating - I guess that goes back to the recent conversation we just had here about the different reactions between struggling with choreography you don't know, the great workout you get when you know the choreography well enough to really DO it, and knowing it too well and not getting the full workout.

Would it be possible to gently let him know that it would help so much if there was more of a pattern you could follow (I say gently cause I got myself in a mess this week at work communicating my true frustration with one of my vendors, and their response was to not respond, which frustrated me even more!)

At least you have another class you can go to that's better, but that doesn't help the other days.:(

When I've been in similar circumstances I always think that I'm not required to follow the instructor exactly - and I DON'T always...especially when I know I have to lower the impact for my knees or her move is totally awkward or frustrating for me, so I change it a bit...as long as I'm moving in my space where I don't interfere with the class - we're not professional dancers trying to be totally in sync - it's supposed to be a party!:p

[MJC]

When I've been in similar circumstances I always think that I'm not required to follow the instructor exactly - and I DON'T always...especially when I know I have to lower the impact for my knees or her move is totally awkward or frustrating for me, so I change it a bit...as long as I'm moving in my space where I don't interfere with the class - we're not professional dancers trying to be totally in sync - it's supposed to be a party!:p

THere are several of us older women in my class who have issues and deal with the movements accordingly. Our teacher even tells us that as long as we keep moving she doesn't mind if we do our own thing now and then. She knows I can't jump, and I'm happy that she treats us all as adults who know what we need. And I try not to make a nuisance of myself as well.

Ferguson, I can feel your frustration from here. Your teacher doesn't sound very committed to what he's doing.

We started doing JLo's On the Floor. When I first heard that song on American Idol I absolutely hated it. HATED it. But now I have to admit, it is a great Zumba song!

[delacruz]

I just realized we haven't seen Anita around here much and she must be in the midst of moving around now. Good luck to you, and have a wonderful fresh start! The last time I did a major move was 22 years ago exactly this time of year. We started out at 104 degrees in the shade but 4% humidity in Los Angeles and ended up in the Mid-Atlantic in the 90s for both heat and humidity. Yuck! Long showers - that's the only advice I can give:p

I don't remember if I mentioned here that my first Zumba instructor just began teaching at my gym. I started out at her class because I knew it was in a large space and I could hide in the back until I got to feeling somewhat coordinated. But when the gym I already had a membership to started offering Zumba right around when we started tightening the belt to start doing 2 cruises a year I couldn't really warrant paying for the gym AND the drop-in classes, so I took my classes at the gym.

Since she pays for her own space at the firehall, whenever the class is too small she ends up losing money, and I've been suggesting to her for a while to apply to the gym. I guess the turnout this summer has been so bad that she has been cancelling at least one class a week, so FINALLY I convinced her to apply.

2 weeks ago was her 'audition'. I was so nervous, cause it's been 8 months since I took her class and I didn't know if she'd hate the gym, wouldn't fit in, or if my memory of how good she was is because I was such a novice.

Well, she didn't disappoint. EVERYBODY said she was the best instructor they ever had, she gave a great workout, and today will be the 3rd week of taking her class (Tuesdays only). So now I get the best of both worlds - an instructor I love and don't have to pay extra...and she is making money. I know since she's paid by the class she can't keep the 'extra' she used to get when her class was full, but she also isn't in the position of having to pay more in rent than she takes in. Win-win for everyone!:D

[Anita Latte]

I have so many people I'd like to touch base with...I'm not sure where to post!

I am officially IN Georgia...I am posting from the basement of my SIL's house...DH and DS are playing an online game and I am able to do my own computer thang...

DH arrived Friday, June 29...we picked up the uHaul on June 30...it was a mess, they did not have all the supplies (blankets/dollys) that they were supposed to have...it rained...we drove around getting supplies...the moving help fell through...alternative help arrived at 4pm...at 6pm Dh and I realized that we would NOT be able to fit in the biggest...the 26' truck...despite all my efforts...and we arranged to get the biggest trailer available on short notice the next day...we slept on the floor (the mattresses were all in the truck)...and we drove away from our rental on Sunday, July 1...late...but the house was wonderfully clean...several items left behind (like the gas grill, the lawn mower, bikes, etc.) and/or given away at the very last minute to neighbors...and we made it to Lufkin, TX that night.

DH had to drive a 26' truck with a trailer on the end...

We arrived in our GA destination at a fairly decent late night hour on July 2.

We had help to unload the truck on July 3. It was accomplished in 2 hours. We fit in the basement. YAY!! And now we have been relaxing and busy being a family.

Today was an awesome Independence Day celebration.

Meanwhile...

I am amazed that the first Tuesday since March's Spring Break cruise passed without me teaching a class! :eek: I have only NOT taught on Tuesdays 4 times since October 4!! And I feel a bit out of sorts with inactivity...

Earlier was fine...Dh was into the Wimbleton broadcast and I was fixing my nails for our big anniversary celebration tomorrow...but later in the day...I couldn't believe that I wasn't doing something...I've been so busy either teaching, researching, or learning Zumba and/or packing...

SO...I weighed myself before the drive to GA...and I broke through the 160 barrier...I was 156.something and 23.something body fat...so I managed to survive the transition from teaching 9 classes weekly to suddenly teaching only 2...and I even managed to lose 4ish pounds and some body fat. I can tell you that I am almost desperate for a class right now...I NEED the FUN sweat! I haven't figured out my first class to attend around here...but I am SO looking forward to it!

My plan is to find a class or more to attend and to start to introduce myself to the local instructors and to offer myself as a sub...especially during the summer, I'm thinking that subs could be in good demand...and I think that I could put together a great playlist that would have basic moves with fun music and give everyone a great workout...isn't that Zumba? LOL!! But you KWIM...the moves would be easy to follow...with longevity in a song so that the changes weren't too fast, etc etc...

On the Floor is a great Zumba song...I did it for a warm up for a while...

That's all of the current conversation that I read...leaving tomorrow for an overnight anniversary celebration...15th! It's all a surprise...IDK what we are really doing. Hope everyone is well!

[Anita Latte]

Hello everyone!

I've been in Georgia now since Monday. We arrived in the evening. Tuesday, we had some help to unload the truck. We fit everything into the basement of my SIL's house, where I am now living in the midst of all my stuff while we wait for the house we are going to rent to become available...the current renters are being transferred to Ohio and they will be out around the end of the month. Wednesday was a family Independence Day celebration. Thursday was my anniversary celebration overnight (details are on the All things Earth thread on the Fashion board). This past weekend, we settled the basement into a livable space and unpacked the necessities.

AND I went to my first Zumba class in this area. I couldn't take not going to class any longer. I found a class near by on Saturday morning at my preferred time...9:30 am...and it even offered the first class free...yay!...and so off I went. Funny enough...the instructor was leaving that morning for a trip...and she was only there to let in the sub...not a problem. I met two instructors...introduced myself...and the one even got my information as a possible sub at her location. Awesome.

The class was good. I can tell my cardio is hurting a bit and not quite what it was. I was so happy to be moving! Working up a sweat and having fun. I didn't like a couple things she did...in the warm up...her neck warm up section included the move where you fully look at the ceiling (which is NOT a good move...you aren't supposed to hyperextend your neck like that) and also several times, during the warm up, in the middle of the class, and during the cool down...she bent over so that your head would be below heart level...I CAN NOT do this in this type of class...I have very low blood pressure and the head rush I get is HORRIBLE...so I didn't do either of those moves. Everything else was fun though.

DH brought home the info for the company facilities. They let you do a free week...and then the cost for employee and spouse is only $13 a month. They have two Zumba classes...one lunchtime and one early evening. Probably do the free week in two weeks. DH travels for the early part of next week...so the week after.

Meanwhile...DS and I are doing what we can to be active. Yesterday, we went to a local park that is HUGE for a Metro area. Over 17 miles of hiking trails...real hiking trails. We did a one mile hike to the top of the "mountain" which is about 1800 feet...800 feet above the local 1000 foot elevation of the area. Lots of trees. Lots of shade. Great views. It was a great thing to do.

Then yesterday evening...we walked more with DH in our neighborhood. So this neighborhood has trees the way that our old neighborhood had a greenbelt. And there is a gravel packed trail through the trees. Very nice. And all the hills around here! It's a whole different walking experience!

I haven't figured out today's activity yet. Something less ambitious. But something. And I have to plan my next Zumba class...

How is everyone doing?

[calenita]

I have not posted on here for months, but just wanted to come back and say how much I love Zumba. I strated going one night a week and then wanted more and found out here how to find another class (thanks!) so I now go two, sometimes three times a week... still looking for the elusive Friday class which suits my schedule. I love Zumba. I go to classes with two different instructors. They each have their own style and I like that. I can't say I prefer one over the other.
So I was reading Princess does Zumba. Has anyone done this on a Princess ship? I've never been on Princess. DH loves Celebrity. We have also sailed Norwegian and Royal Caribbean and like them. For DH it has to have good food. How is the food on Princess? I like the food, shows, pools and if it has Zumba I would much prefer that than going to the gym or walking on the deck!

[MJC]

So I was reading Princess does Zumba. Has anyone done this on a Princess ship? I've never been on Princess. DH loves Celebrity. We have also sailed Norwegian and Royal Caribbean and like them. For DH it has to have good food. How is the food on Princess? I like the food, shows, pools and if it has Zumba I would much prefer that than going to the gym or walking on the deck!

The feedback I've been getting about Zumba on Princess is, "it depends." It depends on the ship, on the crew, on the itinerary. Lots of variables. So far I have not been able to get a definitive answer for my particular cruise (in November). I think the exercise classes are firstly crew dependent, so if they have someone who can teach it, then it is offered, presuming they have space for it.

I haven't been on Princess in over ten years, so I cannot comment on the current state of the food. On our very first cruise (to Alaska), our table assignment was an eight that included the Food & Beverage Director and his wife, and needless to say our meals and service were exceptional. :) A rather high standard for all our subsequent ones to live up to!

[MJC]

I've been in Georgia now since Monday.

AND I went to my first Zumba class in this area


I'm happy to hear that you arrived safely in Georgia. Moving - what a lot of work! I'm not surprised that you dropped some weight, congrats! And you sure didn't waste any time finding some Zumba! I missed Zumba last week, so I expect to be hurting when I return tomorrow.

Here is something I have noticed about Zumba as cross-training. DH and I love to waterski from late May through September. All winter long we go to the gym and do our cable rows and whatnot, but it is so hard to go back to skiing in the spring -- it is one of those sports that seemingly uses every single muscle in your body. This year I have had a much easier time getting back in the groove, and I think it's because of all the core work in my Zumba class. Yeah, my hands and shoulders and quads hurt, but I didn't have that all-body ache that lasts for days that I get when I usually begin the ski season. And my back feels like it's in really good shape, nice and strong.

So, just another big plus for Zumba!

[Member123]

I have not posted on here for months, but just wanted to come back and say how much I love Zumba. I strated going one night a week and then wanted more and found out here how to find another class (thanks!) so I now go two, sometimes three times a week... still looking for the elusive Friday class which suits my schedule. I love Zumba. I go to classes with two different instructors. They each have their own style and I like that. I can't say I prefer one over the other.
So I was reading Princess does Zumba. Has anyone done this on a Princess ship? I've never been on Princess. DH loves Celebrity. We have also sailed Norwegian and Royal Caribbean and like them. For DH it has to have good food. How is the food on Princess? I like the food, shows, pools and if it has Zumba I would much prefer that than going to the gym or walking on the deck!

Here's my opinion, based upon the few Zumba classes that I've seen on board ship(s). And, let me preface this by saying that I haven't seen any specifically on board Princess, but I've heard from other cruisers about the Zumba on Princess.

It isn't Zumba.

It might be called Zumba. But, it isn't Zumba.

If you think you're going to be going to a Zumba DANCE FITNESS class, then you will be extremely disappointed.

The "Zumba" that is offered on board ship(s), is a Zumba experience.. would be the best way that I could describe what happens. Basically, the environment isn't in the gym setting; it's usually in a very public place like a promenade, a theatre, a disco. The instructor will discuss the moves (at quite some length) and it almost becomes the same as describing one of their line dances, kwim? Then, the music starts and you will be led through the choreography to the song. So, you will be moving for around 3 minutes before you stop... converse... laugh.... mingle... listen to the instructor talk and talk and talk. It's really no different than going to one of their dance instruction classes; i.e., salsa, merengue, etc. The people who come to the "class," dress in street clothes; they don't even wear fitness clothing. And... no sweat to speak of...

If they would ever hold it in the GYM, with sign up sheets, etc., then I would be so interested!

Princess food... We went on a Princess cruise a few years ago. We usually sail Royal Caribbean and Celebrity. If your DH loves Celebrity and likes good food, IMO... you should sail with Celebrity. I think that Royal Caribbean's food was better than the food we had on Princess. Again, IMO.

[Anita Latte]

So I went to another Zumba class here this morning. I can only go so many days without feeling the need to shake my booty and hear some serious Latin tunes...and unfortunately...the Spanish stations that I can find around here are totally LAME...I had a great one in Houston...Go Figure :rolleyes:...and here...it isn't Latin Pop and Latin Hits...it's like Regional Mexican music...maybe everyone understands? The regional music is not very dance inspiring IMO...it just makes me want chips and salsa and a margarita. :p:D

So. The class.

Morning time slots are hard. I know. ESPECIALLY during the week. I don't think my Tues/Thurs class at the rec center ever really took off except during the summer when a few teachers joined...and it was still really really small.

So I was the only student there today.

The place was a studio type room...very nice...there was another person there...the one that works the counter during the day...then the instructor...and me. They closed all the blinds...turned down the lights and turned on these disco type multi-colored spinning light things. It was an interesting club type atmosphere, I guess...the instructor decided to just be on the floor with us...instead of on the stage facing us...and we all faced the mirror.

It wasn't my favorite class.

I don't know if the issues with her iPod were the reason that she didn't have a playlist...or if she would normally select songs in between each song...but that drove me NUTS. And the song choices weren't my favs either...I didn't get that international feel from the class...and she was an ADD instructor...changing moves before the music changed...and having many combinations of moves so that you couldn't ever really just get into one move.

I worked up a sweat. And felt like it was worth my time today. But I don't think I will repeat. And I feel bad because she was a nice lady...a bit younger than me, I think...but I used my first class free today and I don't want to pay $7 for the experience...so I need to think about how to handle this as we did exchange phone numbers. I would like to get together again...but I'm not sure that I really want to take her class again.

I'm missing my own routines...I need to figure out how I can maybe test my memory of my routines and work on some new ones.

I don't think I've shared that I am going to a jam session this weekend. It's a thing for instructors to attend to network with others and learn 5 new choreos. I'm looking forward to it.

Overall I'm feeling pretty good about myself as an instructor. Not that I'm trying to put anyone else down...ya'll know I'm not like that...but honestly, I haven't attended too many other instructors classes...so I haven't know how I might compare...and I think I can hold my own around here. Once I can figure out the how and the where and the when for teaching.

[MrsILuvZumba]

Well hello everyone. I obviously love Zumba as well :D I am a Zumba instructor here in Mobile, Al. I started taking classes at my local YMCA in 2010 and became hooked!! My instructor offered to mentor me and I became certified to teach that same year. So great to see so many people who share my passion! *Live*Love*Zumba*

[Anita Latte]

I'm so glad you joined us over here! I'm also an instructor. I just relocated from Houston, TX to Atlanta, GA. We are all big Zumba enthusiasts. Welcome. :D

[MrsILuvZumba]

I'm so glad you joined us over here! I'm also an instructor. I just relocated from Houston, TX to Atlanta, GA. We are all big Zumba enthusiasts. Welcome. :D

Thanks :D Never been Atlanta, only the airport...what a big headache! LOL. Savannah is wonderful though!

[Anita Latte]

I just ordered some new Zumba wear...I ordered a smaller size...for the first time...we'll see how it goes.

DH had a potluck at work today. These have really changed over the years...many people buy something prepared by the local grocer...or a party plate from somewhere...etc. There aren't as many homemade dishes brought as there used to be...after having participated as the prepare-r of the potluck dish for many years now...I can tell you that without a doubt the BEST thing to contribute is Deviled Eggs.

1. Eggs are cheap. This is one of the cheapest dishes to make in large quantity.

2. It's usually one of the few protein options. You don't get stuck with left overs.

3. Generally...people like them but never take the time to make them...so it's a treat.

The hardest part is figuring out how to transport them. I usually cover cardboard cut to the size of my fridge in foil and fashion a homemade tray of sorts that DH can just toss and not worry about cleaning or retrieving (I've lost too many things to potlucks, etc.). Anyone have a brilliant deviled egg transportation idea that isn't a specialty tray?

Meanwhile...I started working on some routines...I worked on warm up songs:

Back In Time (MIB III) by Pitbull (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDwgpBh0Aw)
Follow the Leader by JLo and Wisin & Yandel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmap94TcDNs)

and a routine to:

Sexy by Les Jumo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VTXMBksiEM)

Having trouble figuring out what to do during the verse immediately after the chorus...I think I have the rest though...Mom was going to try to remember what her one instructor that does this song does...but I don't know if she did the song yesterday...

Anyone do this in class? Can you tell me what you do...or what would be fun to do...during the verse...the part right after the chorus and before the oh Oh Oh parts?...

My current project is to put together a great subbing playlist...full of predictable music...meaning that the song follows a pattern that is easy to recognize...this "Sexy" song is predictable to me...Intro...Chorus...Verse...PreChorus...Chorus.. .Verse...PreChorus...Chorus...Bridge...Special Chorus...Chorus Twice. And every section is like 16 counts long...

I'll post my list...you know I love to hear everyone's opinions...

Meanwhile...my current strategy regarding maintaining my activity level throughout this moving process seems to be standing me in good stead. If I know that I am not going to be out and about...I just wear exercise clothing...and keep the mindset that all my physical activity around the house...all the cleaning...packing...unpacking...arranging...organ izing...etc etc qualifies a good physical activity contributing to my daily requirement for exercise. Everyone remember the housekeeper experiment? Where one half were educated as to how their job duties satisfied their daily requirement for exercise and the half that were educated lost weight with no other change to their lifestyle? And the uneducated half did not lose weight?

My current living situation is a bit like living in the midst of a storage unit...but I've managed to cozy up our living space...there are some areas of disorganization though...the things that I needed immediate access too but don't really have a home for yet...I'm going to take care of that today.

I have the Zumba Jam Session on Sunday. I got the list of songs I will be learning. I'm excited!

How is everyone?

[MrsILuvZumba]

Hi Anita! Agreed, Deviled Eggs are the best! My mom used to make them all the time for pot lucks or picnics when I was little.

I use "Follow the Leader" by Wisin y Yandel ft. JLo in my playlist. I used a version of it off of YouTube from GetYourFitOnWith Tara. My class absolutely lovesss it!!

The hubby and I sail for our cruise in 8 days!! SO EXCITED! :D

[MrsILuvZumba]

Oh, and have fun at your Jam Session!! :) I bought a ticket to Gina & Tanya's Rock The Stage Tour! I've never seen these girls in person but I sooo adore Gina :) I figured if im not going to the convention that I would treat myself to this instead! yay!

[xenagurl]

Hi OP!

I'm not a Zumba person, but I LOVE to freestyle dance and enjoy Latin music as well. I'm still on page one, but you have a really interesting thread here. Thanks for starting it and sharing all of your links and tips.

Xena

[BluMama]

Hello! I recently joined a gym and took some of the Zumba classes they offer and omg what fun!!! I'm usually laughing half the time while trying to follow the moves - still learning! But it's so much fun and I really work up a sweat! It's nice to get away and let loose because I feel way more relaxed when I go back home. I have also taken the spinning classes they offer which are great too. Between these two exercises, I hope to drop 20 lbs! :D

[Anita Latte]

I had a GREAT time at the jam session! The Atlanta ladies are welcoming, non-competitive and eager to have a great time showing off their moves and shakin' their boo-tay! I will say this...and I hope no-one gets the wrong impression as I say this...because everyone should know me well enough by now to know that my comments are purely observation...and shared to be somewhat humorous...and NOT prejudice is any way...

Because it was very FUN to be 1 of 3 pale skinned women in the midst of 20 or more brown and black beauties. I have a total "Sandra Dee" (from Grease), girl next door personna going on...but I can hold my own on the dance floor and know how to shake my thang...I've lost a bit of junk in the trunk so I can't quite place in a booty pop contest LOL! And YES, there was some choreo in at least one song that turned into something of a booty pop contest...OMG...so fun...there's nothing like being in a room with so many ladies that are so comfortable with themselves and ready and willing to just move and have a good time...and have the ability to move...and the personality to add their own "flava" to the move...

I got the nickname "Houston" at the jam...I heard...go Houston, go Houston...

But Houston was the land of Latinos...and where I was in Atlanta was darker...so I had a good time listening to and appreciating the different speech patterns, idioms, and even the body language of all the ladies that I got to spend the afternoon with on Sunday.

I learned 5 new songs. I'll share on a different day. I just wanted to say a quick hi to everyone...I have some errands that I should do and shouldn't use the computer to procrastinate!

Welcome Xena and BluMama! There is a bunch of great information buried throughout this thread. Mostly we have created a great thread of support for those pursuing great health and fitness.

[xenagurl]

Anita it sounds like you had a really good time this past weekend. I might have to try Zumba one of these days. I had a dance class today and simply insisted on learning more Merengue steps. We also tried the Tango. I didn't think it would suit me but after doing it at a party on Friday and trying it officially today, it was a lot of fun. ITMT I'm going to check out a few Zumba videos on YouTube.

[MJC]

Anita, what is a jam session? Is that just for instructors?

xenagurl, if you like the latin dances I think you would like Zumba. It is definitely not a ballroom class, but knowing the basics of the latin dances even club style makes Zumba so much easier. Also, you can dance your heart out and not be dependent on having a good partner (a boring Merengue partner is the kiss of death as far as I'm concerned). For me, the Afro-Carribbean rhythyms are the most challenging, but I'm slowly getting better at them.

We've been doing Addicted to You, and I'm dating myself now but we're doing the Hustle in the middle and it's so much fun. I'm having flashbacks to my high school disco days. Time to watch Saturday Night Fever again. :D DH isn't a good dancer, but I lead him through a Hustle at least once any time we have the chance to go dancing. It's all about making the girl look good anyway.;)

[Anita Latte]

Margaret, A jam session is for instructors, specifically instructors that are members of the Zumba Network. It's one benefit of the monthly dues. It's a 3-hour session where an instructor that has earned the title Zumba Jammer teaches their personal choreography to 5 songs. The max attendance is 30 instructors and the price is set at $30. Not only is it a good opportunity to easily add new routines to your own class, but also it's a great networking opportunity, which is one reason why I wanted to attend...to start to meet other instructors in the area...unfortunately, the jam was about an hour away from me and so most of the instructors were from another part of town...

I received my new Zumbawear and it all fits great! I'm so excited. When I bought my first pair of cargos, I needed an XL and now I'm in Ms!!

I haven't really concentrated on my playlist lately. Dh went traveling for work, so did my SIL...and the cousins went to be with the their Dad a long week...so it's just been DS and I at the house. I've been cleaning like mad...LOL...I never thought I was much of a neat freak...but I do like to be busy and cleaning is one thing that needs to be done...now I have fixed all sorts of things around the house...it's kind of funny.

[xenagurl]

Thanks MJC!

I agree if your partner isn't into a Menergue, well you can forget it. It's better to go it on your own!

Dh isn't much of a dancer either, slowly but surely he's getting the hang of Salsa.

Are there different speeds of Zumba classes? From the videos I've been watching they go a bit slower than I move in general when I'm freestyle dancing and I'd be interested in doing something around the same pace as what I do now. i.e. like a really fast Menengue to the song Danza Kumundo...is there anything similar to that?


Ahhh the Hustle! :D



xenagurl, if you like the latin dances I think you would like Zumba. It is definitely not a ballroom class, but knowing the basics of the latin dances even club style makes Zumba so much easier. Also, you can dance your heart out and not be dependent on having a good partner (a boring Merengue partner is the kiss of death as far as I'm concerned). For me, the Afro-Carribbean rhythyms are the most challenging, but I'm slowly getting better at them.

We've been doing Addicted to You, and I'm dating myself now but we're doing the Hustle in the middle and it's so much fun. I'm having flashbacks to my high school disco days. Time to watch Saturday Night Fever again. :D DH isn't a good dancer, but I lead him through a Hustle at least once any time we have the chance to go dancing. It's all about making the girl look good anyway.;)

[xenagurl]

I meant to say: Danza Kuduro

I'm not sure why I keep trying to rename that song! LOL

[delacruz]

I meant to say: Danza Kuduro

I'm not sure why I keep trying to rename that song! LOL


Ha ha! That's one of my favorite Zumba songs, and I keep calling it Danza Kakuro!

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[xenagurl]

Ha ha! That's one of my favorite Zumba songs, and I keep calling it Danza Kakuro!



LOL There's just something about that name isn't it!

[Anita Latte]

Xena...let's talk about different speeds of Zumba class. What differentiates Zumba from some other license specific exercise classes (for example, Body Pump by Les Mills) is that Zumba classes are entirely instructor choice. There are guidelines only for what constitutes a Zumba class; there is music and choreography provided by Zumba Fitness, but whether or not an instructor uses that music and choreo is an instructor decision. What this means is that every single Zumba class has the potential to be completely unique. This is why throughout this thread, the comment is repeated that Zumba classes are SO instructor dependent.

Who knows how long it will take for a student to find an instructor that creates a class that clicks for that student? Most definitely, there are instructors that are known for being more "fitness-y", "dance-y", "jumpy", "fast", etc etc. Other aspects...not having a preset playlist and taking time to select a song after each song, quality of warm up/cool down/stretch, general music selection, how easy they are to follow, how varied their choreography is, whether or not they include any choreo that could be considered more toning (i.e. an abs song, squats song, "arms from hell"...), how vocal they are (i.e. they "whoop" or some other excited noisemaking and/or encouragement), whether they walk around the room and dance with various students, whether they do the visual kind of encouragement where they pretend to not do a move with as much energy...shake their head or otherwise communicate a negative opinion...and then do the move with great energy, etc etc.

If you belong to a gym franchise...like Mom (Member123 aka Pam) does...then you may have access to literally dozens of instructors within a driving radius...and it can be relatively painless to try out different instructors. If you don't, then finding the independent class that suits you can be more challenging...but you can locate classes in your area that are taught by a ZIN member on zumba.com. Through that website, you can also contact the instructor and ask them whatever you want to try to give you a clue as to whether or not the class is YOUR speed.

I didn't go to class at all last week...and I don't currently have plans to go this week...I have an all day training Sunday, July 29 for Zumba Sentao...which is Zumba WITH a chair...not necessarily sitting in a chair...think FLASHDANCE and you might have an idea of what Sentao is about. I'm not entirely certain as to what it really means myself...but I'll find out soon enough LOL!

This week begins that last push for fitness for DS before school begins. We need to do some things to transition him from summer level activity (which hasn't been super active for him) to PE ready. It's amazing the difference that moving from sea level to about 1000 feet of elevation can make...and from the flatlands of the coastal prairie to the land of hills. We register him for school on Wednesday. I can't believe summer is almost over...feels like the shortest summer EVER.

[xenagurl]

Thanks Anita!

[fergusonvt]

I agree that Zumba is very instructor driven. As I've posted on here recently I've been frustrated with the class at my gym which is included in my monthly membership. He wings it for the entire class and with the exception of 1 or 2 songs there isn't a dance "routine" for them and it changes every class kinda like an aerobics class. I like the structure of learning a routine, doing it for a month or two then moving on to new songs. After his class this Sat. morning where he did stretches on one side but didn't repeat them on the other I've come to the conclusion that he doesn't really know what he is doing so am trying another local class tonight at 5pm. There are lots of classes within driving distance and since I love going so much I will have to find a substitute for his Sat. morning class too.

I'll use his class only as a last resort to at least get some exercise if the other local classes that I have been attending are cancelled for some reason.

[delacruz]

Thanks MJC!

I agree if your partner isn't into a Menergue, well you can forget it. It's better to go it on your own!

Dh isn't much of a dancer either, slowly but surely he's getting the hang of Salsa.

Are there different speeds of Zumba classes? From the videos I've been watching they go a bit slower than I move in general when I'm freestyle dancing and I'd be interested in doing something around the same pace as what I do now. i.e. like a really fast Menengue to the song Danza Kumundo...is there anything similar to that?


Ahhh the Hustle! :D

Darn it...I posted a response here and closed it!

As much as I am loving Zumba, I've never been a good couples dancer - I'm a control freak so I don't follow, but I forget too easily, so I can't lead! Truthfully, I really don't know how I made the transition in Zumba from hiding in the back to always trying to be in the front row and showing off my moves! ;)

So, I'm not really aware so much of the specific names of dances...but I think that 'Me Gusto' is a Merengue song...it's become one of our staples with our Thursday teacher. Like the funny Danza Kumundo /Kakuro /Kuduro, it's 'in my head' a lot. A few weeks ago it was in my head but I couldn't think of any of the words so I didn't know what song it was...until after the whole day I realized the notes had turned into the chorus 'Me Gusto Me Gusto'....duh! But I guess the tempo is even a bit slower than Danza Kuduro.

I assume it's a ZIN song since all the You Tube videos I found of it are the same choreography that we do.

Judi

[delacruz]

I agree that Zumba is very instructor driven. As I've posted on here recently I've been frustrated with the class at my gym which is included in my monthly membership. He wings it for the entire class and with the exception of 1 or 2 songs there isn't a dance "routine" for them and it changes every class kinda like an aerobics class. I like the structure of learning a routine, doing it for a month or two then moving on to new songs. After his class this Sat. morning where he did stretches on one side but didn't repeat them on the other I've come to the conclusion that he doesn't really know what he is doing so am trying another local class tonight at 5pm. There are lots of classes within driving distance and since I love going so much I will have to find a substitute for his Sat. morning class too.

I'll use his class only as a last resort to at least get some exercise if the other local classes that I have been attending are cancelled for some reason.

That's a real shame about that instructor. It wold be nice if there were SOME sort of supervision or evaluation of Zumba instructors. I've seen some instructors that are careless and do moves that can hurt if you're not listening to your body and modifying for your fitness level.

When I started taking Zumba last year I was paying an extra fee to go to the local firehall besides my local gym because it was SO over-crowded that I felt intimidated and didn't think I'd learn it. But once I got the hang of it I couldn't warrant paying twice as much for the 8 classes a month as my monthly membership with unlimited membership. That coincided with the smaller, closer gym in the franchise building a classroom and offering Zumba Tues/Thurs right after work.

After some changes - including a couple of instructors that sound just like yours (no playlists or consistency), they've settled down on 2 teachers - one for Tuesday (the original fire hall teacher :)), one for Thursday, and they are very different but both excellent! I actually was surprised at the gym management - not known for seeming to care about 'the masses'...they did respond to complaints about one teacher and praises for another.

[MJC]

Dela, I'm glad you got some good teachers! How fun for you.

Our sub on Saturday didn't do any stretches for the quads or hamstrings. How can you miss such large muscles? IDK. And she's still doing the song where she can't stay on the beat. Hmm.

A big thank-you to Anita for introducing me to Zumba, it is one of the great joys of my week.:D

[Anita Latte]

Dela...there is an ongoing debate within the Zumba instructor community about whether or not a Group X certification should be required before being able to become a Zumba instructor...mainly because you can watch any number of YouTube videos and see Zumba instructors doing unsafe moves...or moves that could be perfectly safe but aren't because the music is too fast or the instructor doesn't cue it properly...or go to any number of classes and experience it in person. It's really the students that evaluate and supervise...speaking volumes with their attendance or lack thereof. Meanwhile, with Zumba it is "student beware."

I think I may have found a place to begin teaching. We went to the pool today and it was a different pool in the neighborhood (there are two)...and the clubhouse at this pool has a wood floor!. There are some furnishings...but nothing major. The room is pretty darn small, so it wouldn't last if the class became popular...BUT...it could be just right to get a neighborhood class going. I was talking with the mom of one of my niece's friends and my SIL had told her about me...so we had a great conversation about Zumba...and of course, she's so excited for me to start a class...especially if it could be right there. And she's all over the idea of the daytime class when the kids are in school. SO.

I need to research the deal with this clubhouse...and see what kind of deal I may be able to work out for the regular use of the clubhouse. I need to get inside it and really evaluate how many people could comfortably participate...The clubhouse is like the size of a large living room...Mom, it's like a that separate building that is popular for residences in AZ...the word isn't cabana but the real word escapes me...there is a Google Group for this neighborhood, a community website, and a newsletter, so I could definitely get the word out...and this may be just the thing I need to do in order to get my foot in the door toward establishing myself as an instructor again.

The Mom I was talking to has that pear shaped body...and she is definitely overweight...in her words, she is the heaviest she's ever been...but she already has a goal of her DH's Christmas party...and since I have walked this road...I know that my story helps to inspire my students...she was inspired. She thought I was a contemporary of the nanny (who watches my niece and nephew during the day...the nanny is 18.) And she was shocked that I was 40.

To which...I'm like...SWEET...;):D

SO. That's my goal right now. Get more info on the clubhouse...think about Zumba kickoff ideas...and think about a playlist that will hook a bunch of newbies...not only in the music selection but the ease of choreography.

FUN!!!

Margaret...our conversation may have been in the catalyst for you trying Zumba out...but I am just so thankful that you were able to find yourself such a rockin instructor so easily...that is the real key.

[delacruz]

Ha ha, it took me a minute to figure out who 'dela' is :p Silly me!

Then again, you're not 'really' Anita, right?

The idea of the neighborhood Zumba class sounds just perfect. I really hope that works out for you. I started out in a small 'neighborhood' class (well, it was the top floor of a fire house), but it's a great way to start out to learn Zumba. And having a first participant that is eager to get shaped up who can hopefully spread the word around is great advertising.

Speaking of the fire station -the first couple of times I heard 'Veo Veo' during that class I thought the sirens were really going on downstairs. Today was the first time we did that song in the regular gym - it was funny having that memory!

[fergusonvt]

I'm glad to say that the class/instuctor I tried out on Monday night was fantastic and the class was only $5.00. I'll be doing her class again tonight then trying another place for Saturday morning. I looked around the gym this morning when I went for the feedback forms for the Zumba instructor but they were gone. I am planning on telling the gym owner on Friday morning when I go again about the instructor making up steps as he goes along.

I feel kinda bad because a bunch of us complained when he hadn't changed his music in 6 months and he finally changed it but he changed all of it at once and didn't bother to learn any routines to most of it LOL. I feel like she's going to think all we do is complain about him but honestly when I first started going there his music was fresh and he had routines to all the songs but right now I think he is just lazy. I actually like not going to the same class three times a week just to keep things a little different. I can honestly say I've never done anything that takes off the pounds like Zumba.

[Member123]

Ha ha, it took me a minute to figure out who 'dela' is :p Silly me!

Then again, you're not 'really' Anita, right?



Can you imagine how much fun I have? Sometimes I tell my DH, "Anita posted again." He's gone from saying, "Who?" to "what did she say?" LOL.

And I have to be so careful when I type; it's not funny!

Sincerely, "Anita's" Mom! :D

[dlabout]

2 days to the Zumba Convention!! Woo Hoo!!!
Then off on the Freedom of the seas to rest up from all that Zumba.

[fergusonvt]

Great class tonight, boy am I beat!

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[fergusonvt]

My goal this week is to Zumba everyday except Sunday. Two down 3 to go.

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[Member123]

My goal this week is to Zumba everyday except Sunday. Two down 3 to go.

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How many different instructors do you go to? This is a week full of substitutes, for me, because so many of my Zumba instructors are heading off to Orlando for the convention. I'll be experiencing some instructors that will be brand new to me... that should be interesting. It will also be interesting to have my instructors return and get a feeling for what they may have learned at the convention... new choreography... maybe new music. We'll see.

I always seem to make at least 5x a week, but sometimes I get the 6th one in. Usually, it's a function of how my body is reacting to the weather, etc. as it has been relatively hot and more humid than usual. Plus, the Olympics! But, wow, I feel like the NBC coverage of the Olympics has been absolutely terrible! As an example... I love beach volleyball. They begin coverage of the first match... break for a string of commercials... come back to the match and they've advanced the score by 6 points!!!... then begin coverage of the second match... break for a HUMAN INTEREST STORY about somethng that is of no interest to someone who wants to watch beach volleyball... left the match at a score of 2-1 and come back with a score of 18-11... GRRRRR.... Hate the way NBC pats themselves on the back about their great job when they are just blowing it for me! So, I'm taping and watching so I can blow through the commercials and the human interest stories especially if they're about Big Ben or William Shakespeare! By doing that, I'm actually timing the coverage... run a 100meter race which takes 10 seconds and blah blah blah for a minute and a half followed by 4 minutes of commercials... yeah, I think they're going to "break even" on their coverage of the Olympics. I hope they don't get the contract again! Wishful thinking.... Smiles all around now that I've had my say about the sports coverage. Anyone else feel the same?

I usually look for a morning class. I can't do Zumba much past 5:30pm to 6:30pm because I get too hyped and have a really hard time sleeping if I do! Too much music going through my head... plus the body is just buzzing. So I love my classes at 9:30am the best! Thursday thru Sunday. Then Monday off. Tuesday and Wednesday at 5:30pm. Makes Thursday morning a bit of a challenge, but doable.

[fergusonvt]

This week it will be 3 different instructors. My usual is 3 times a week with 2 different instructors but since I'm on vacation this week and we aren't going anywhere I decided to go everyday. I can't normally do mornings because of work and usually do a 5pm or 6pm class on Mon/Wed then a Sat morning. I find it actually makes me sleep much better.

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[MJC]

2 days to the Zumba Convention!! Woo Hoo!!!
Then off on the Freedom of the seas to rest up from all that Zumba.


We expect a full report! Can't wait to hear all about it!

I have houseguests so I missed Zumba this week. I did play golf twice so I am getting some exercise, but it's not the same at all!

Ferguson, I'm so jealous you're getting to go every day. My usual class is Wed. at 7pm and I sleep like a baby afterwards. My Sat. class is at 9am and I feel energized for the whole day.

[fergusonvt]

We expect a full report! Can't wait to hear all about it!

I have houseguests so I missed Zumba this week. I did play golf twice so I am getting some exercise, but it's not the same at all!

Ferguson, I'm so jealous you're getting to go every day. My usual class is Wed. at 7pm and I sleep like a baby afterwards. My Sat. class is at 9am and I feel energized for the whole day.

Only for this week although I could anytime if I went to all evening classes. MY Sat. Class is at 9:30am.

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[Anita Latte]

I went to my first Zumba class is what has felt like SO LONG this morning! I enjoyed the class. There were certain things...the class was at a church and we were actually in the sanctuary...SOOOOOO...

CARPET!!!

Ugh. I HATE Zumba on carpet. Having taught so many classes on carpet though...I know how deal. And I did. I didn't do some of the things that the instructor did...she had better shoes for carpet than I did though...but still...I just avoid certain things.

Anyway...I was able to get a decent workout. I say decent because she didn't have a set playlist today...so it was the hunt and seek between each song...so annoying...but I have a feeling that is not the norm...the instructor just got back from convention, so I think she just didn't have time to prepare what she wanted...why she just didn't do an old playlist is beyond me...but whatever.

I talked with her after class. Told her how much I enjoyed the class, because I really did...and we had a good conversation. ACTUALLY...I'm going to sub for her in less than two weeks for her Monday night class. I have to double check that there isn't any conflict with some sort of back to school night activity...BUT...

I'm so excited because it'll be the first time that I will have taught since the end of June. And I know that I need to teach at least every now and again to keep in teaching shape...that is...to keep my routines in my mind and to have the cuing etc be second nature and not something that you struggle to remember...it's surprising how quickly you can forget...especially newer routines.

So now I'm working on my subbing playlist for real. To qualify for my sub list, the song has to have a predictable musical progression...not have too many musical changes...have each musical section be a decent length...and most definitely have that fun factor.

The biggest debate that I have been going through my mind is what to use for the warm up...do I use something that I have used in the past? Something that some people may be sick of? BUT it'll definitely be familiar? Or do I do something new? Only time will answer this one...The instructor today did "The Time (Dirty Bit)" by the Black Eyed Peas which is very old...and yet...since I've never personally used it...I personally enjoyed how familiar it was...

Hmmmm.

[fergusonvt]

I went to my first Zumba class is what has felt like SO LONG this morning! I enjoyed the class. There were certain things...the class was at a church and we were actually in the sanctuary...SOOOOOO...

CARPET!!!

Ugh. I HATE Zumba on carpet. Having taught so many classes on carpet though...I know how deal. And I did. I didn't do some of the things that the instructor did...she had better shoes for carpet than I did though...but still...I just avoid certain things.

Anyway...I was able to get a decent workout. I say decent because she didn't have a set playlist today...so it was the hunt and seek between each song...so annoying...but I have a feeling that is not the norm...the instructor just got back from convention, so I think she just didn't have time to prepare what she wanted...why she just didn't do an old playlist is beyond me...but whatever.

I talked with her after class. Told her how much I enjoyed the class, because I really did...and we had a good conversation. ACTUALLY...I'm going to sub for her in less than two weeks for her Monday night class. I have to double check that there isn't any conflict with some sort of back to school night activity...BUT...

I'm so excited because it'll be the first time that I will have taught since the end of June. And I know that I need to teach at least every now and again to keep in teaching shape...that is...to keep my routines in my mind and to have the cuing etc be second nature and not something that you struggle to remember...it's surprising how quickly you can forget...especially newer routines.

So now I'm working on my subbing playlist for real. To qualify for my sub list, the song has to have a predictable musical progression...not have too many musical changes...have each musical section be a decent length...and most definitely have that fun factor.

The biggest debate that I have been going through my mind is what to use for the warm up...do I use something that I have used in the past? Something that some people may be sick of? BUT it'll definitely be familiar? Or do I do something new? Only time will answer this one...The instructor today did "The Time (Dirty Bit)" by the Black Eyed Peas which is very old...and yet...since I've never personally used it...I personally enjoyed how familiar it was...

Hmmmm.

I think its fine to use something older occasionally. I personally like it when I take a class and the instructor uses a song I am familiar with even if the routine might be different. I am definitely addicted. I did 6 classes last week on vacation.

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[delacruz]

I think its fine to use something older occasionally. I personally like it when I take a class and the instructor uses a song I am familiar with even if the routine might be different. I am definitely addicted. I did 6 classes last week on vacation.

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I agree with that - that it's fine to have something old and/or familiar. Plus what might be old and familiar for you may be unique for the students.

Anita, that's great that you'll have an opportunity to get your feet wet teaching in a new place!

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[MJC]

Anita, how exciting for you! Your first class in a new place! Subbing is great, you never know where it will lead....

We had a sub last night. She did a great job, not too many changes, nice selection of music, BUT... the music was SO loud it was actually distorted. It gave me a headache, and literally hurt my ears. As class went on, she kept turning it up even more. I have some hearing damage already from years in the dance studio and riding the subway, so even though I didn't want to I left halfway through class with my ears already ringing.

In this instance, I think it was a crutch, i.e. a fake way of building excitement into the class, because everyone was bummed that our regular teacher was gone, and because the sub showed up 1/2 hour late. But, once we got started everyone was really into it, and wanted to have a good workout. She didn't really need to do that.

So, Zumba fans, how loud is too loud? How do you decide?

[Anita Latte]

So, Zumba fans, how loud is too loud? How do you decide?

IMO...it's too loud when the volume makes you focus on how loud it is vs. just being able to listen to the music while focusing on the instructor. Similarly, the volume is too low when you start thinking about how hard it is to hear the music.

Funny story...I had a lady that was hard of hearing tell me that the volume was too loud...could I please turn it down?...her point was that if the volume was too loud for her, she couldn't imagine what it was like for someone with normal hearing...so I started the class with a lower volume...

And a student immediately asked me to turn up the volume after the first song...

I caught the woman's gaze in the mirror and gave her a look that said, I tried, sorry...because Zumba is music driven...and I turned up the volume...

Meanwhile...I'm preparing my playlist to sub...and I realize that I have a real opportunity here. I am a clean slate. Never experienced before. I have a chance here to establish myself as a "fill in the blank" instructor...and I only have to determine what that is. I've experimented a bit...and basically, I find myself seeking the almost impossible to achieve...the BALANCE between fitness and dance...between pure fun and a bit of work...between cardio and toning.

In the short term, I'm going to continue to attend this Tuesday morning class. The instructor invited me to teach a couple songs next week...and so we have determined that I will lead "Baila Esta Cumbia" by Kumbia Kings/Selena and "Hola My Friend" which is a Zumba Original (as far as I can tell). I found myself stressing a bit over the idea of just teaching one or two songs as a guest. OMG. You want the songs to be fun...but they can't be too complicated or they won't be fun...and yet, you want them to convey a style...and if something is too easy without any flavor, then it doesn't convey style...do ya'll see how in my head I get over this kind of stuff??!!

I put forth a list of several options and these two were the ones that the instructor zeroed in on...and so I take that as a good sign and I will follow it...because these are good songs...I do Kelly's choreo to the cumbia (my mentor, my inspiration) and my own choreo to "Hola," which is Hula inspired.

Coming soon, you will see my talk with Mom as I post versions of what could be my playlist...I will be posting descriptors for the different songs that she will understand so that she can offer me much needed and valuable feedback with some reminders as to what the different songs are.

Meanwhile...AGAIN...tomorrow is the first off Friday DH had since DS started school. We are going to go on a hike after we drop DS off...I excited! It's almost like a daytime date! Very exciting!!

[Anita Latte]

Here's a question...

If I KNOW that the instructor I'm subbing for has a different routine to a song...should I avoid that song?

Specifically, the song is Waka Waka...

Thoughts?

[fergusonvt]

Here's a question...

If I KNOW that the instructor I'm subbing for has a different routine to a song...should I avoid that song?

Specifically, the song is Waka Waka...

Thoughts?


No, I've done 4 different routines to that song and they have all been fun. I think you are ok doing it with your own routine.

[delacruz]

No, I've done 4 different routines to that song and they have all been fun. I think you are ok doing it with your own routine.

I agree with that. If a sub is doing a routine I just can't catch on to easily to a song I'm familiar with, I'll mix up what she's doing with what I know...as long as I'm staying in sync. So I'm getting a good workout while still showing her my respect for what she's doing.

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[Member123]

Here's a question...

If I KNOW that the instructor I'm subbing for has a different routine to a song...should I avoid that song?

Specifically, the song is Waka Waka...

Thoughts?

So, because you asked, I just had a conversation with the ladies waiting outside my Zumba class this morning. It was interesting! Here's what they said:

When a sub comes in, they usually give just a really brief get-acquainted speech where they say that Zumba is just meant to have you move the way your body wants to move so, if that means that you want to move to a particular song like your instructor does and the choreography may be different, then move like you feel... except make sure that you don't bump into your neighbor! I think this is where the statement "there's no right or wrong, just right and left" comes into play.

I asked them specifically about Waka, Waka (even though we haven't done that song in ages), and they were more enthusiastic about that particular song in the perspective that when a song is a song that is universally LOVED, then it doesn't even matter what the choreography is, as long as it's FUN to do. And, also, that it's interesting to actually get to experience a different choreography to a much loved song because it freshens it up and makes it new all over again.

Anyway, the bottom line is that they expressed that they knew the sub would be different than their regular instructor and they were just grateful that the class wasn't cancelled and they loved to shake it up a bit with a sub... most of the time... so they were unanimous that you should GO FOR IT. And, also, that if you subbed here that they would attend your class, but maybe they were just being uber-friendly with me, at that point?!? :D

[Anita Latte]

OK.

This is not the order of the songs...and this list is too long...but I'm interesting in hearing opinions about the songs:


Back In Time (From "Men In Black III") by Pitbull (warm up)
Follow The Leader by Wisin & Yandel feat. JLo (warm up)
Waka Waka (Esto es Africa) by Shakira (Calypso)
Zoomer by Les Jumo (African)
La Despedida by Daddy Yankee (Merengue...one verse has the footwork out out in in with arms going out out and up up...second verse has simple merengue march with arms at the head at the shoulders at the hip, first on every other beat and them on every beat...it's a Kelly routine.)
Que Buena Tu Ta by Zumba Fitness (Merengue...aka "Arms from Hell.")
Bailando por El Mundo by Juan Magan feat El Cata and Pitbull (Merengue with a lot core working Beto Shuffle and Mambo with a hit hit in the middle...Mom you haven't done this one with me)
Baila Esta Cumbia by Kumbia Kings (Cumbia...this has the grab your hat and more knee up sleepy leg when the men sing)
Ven a Cumbiar by El Simbolo (Cumbia...this is the Cruise Ship Song)
Dame (Touch Me) by Zumba (Cha Cha...I copied a lot but not the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyDADn3V70).)
Take You To Rio by Ester Dean (Tush Push in each direction with the kick back salsa for each leg...box step on the chorus with the shoulder shimmy to switch directions...side salsa/squats)
Boro Boro by Arash (Bhangra/Bollywood...you do this...the chorus works the middle back...arms are back and forth lower and then toward the ceiling...switch sides...snake arms...etc.)
Que Te Pica by Notch (Reggaeton...Kelly's routine)
Cuando Me Enamoro by Enrique Iglesias (Bachata...the 3 repeater side lunges then singles...the 3 repeater knee raises then singles)
Hola My Friend by Zumba Fitness (Pacific Rhythm...Hula inspired choreo)
I Need to Know by Marc Anthony (Cha Cha cool down)
Caminando Por la Calle by Gypsy Kings (stretch)


This list is probably two songs too long...since I should have SOME intro time. This list is currently 62 minutes long. I might be able to cut out a bit more time if I do some editing and cross feed a couple songs...especially the first two?

This is so very difficult everyone...you have no idea. It's just like doing a first class all over again.

[fergusonvt]

OK.

This is not the order of the songs...and this list is too long...but I'm interesting in hearing opinions about the songs:


Back In Time (From "Men In Black III") by Pitbull (warm up)
Follow The Leader by Wisin & Yandel feat. JLo (warm up)
Waka Waka (Esto es Africa) by Shakira (Calypso)
Zoomer by Les Jumo (African)
La Despedida by Daddy Yankee (Merengue...one verse has the footwork out out in in with arms going out out and up up...second verse has simple merengue march with arms at the head at the shoulders at the hip, first on every other beat and them on every beat...it's a Kelly routine.)
Que Buena Tu Ta by Zumba Fitness (Merengue...aka "Arms from Hell.")
Bailando por El Mundo by Juan Magan feat El Cata and Pitbull (Merengue with a lot core working Beto Shuffle and Mambo with a hit hit in the middle...Mom you haven't done this one with me)
Baila Esta Cumbia by Kumbia Kings (Cumbia...this has the grab your hat and more knee up sleepy leg when the men sing)
Ven a Cumbiar by El Simbolo (Cumbia...this is the Cruise Ship Song)
Dame (Touch Me) by Zumba (Cha Cha...I copied a lot but not the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyDADn3V70).)
Take You To Rio by Ester Dean (Tush Push in each direction with the kick back salsa for each leg...box step on the chorus with the shoulder shimmy to switch directions...side salsa/squats)
Boro Boro by Arash (Bhangra/Bollywood...you do this...the chorus works the middle back...arms are back and forth lower and then toward the ceiling...switch sides...snake arms...etc.)
Que Te Pica by Notch (Reggaeton...Kelly's routine)
Cuando Me Enamoro by Enrique Iglesias (Bachata...the 3 repeater side lunges then singles...the 3 repeater knee raises then singles)
Hola My Friend by Zumba Fitness (Pacific Rhythm...Hula inspired choreo)
I Need to Know by Marc Anthony (Cha Cha cool down)
Caminando Por la Calle by Gypsy Kings (stretch)


This list is probably two songs too long...since I should have SOME intro time. This list is currently 62 minutes long. I might be able to cut out a bit more time if I do some editing and cross feed a couple songs...especially the first two?

This is so very difficult everyone...you have no idea. It's just like doing a first class all over again.

I think this sounds like a great routine! Wish I could do your class.

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[delacruz]

I think this sounds like a great routine! Wish I could do your class.

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I would love to take Anita's class too!! I love when she posts her playlists - I end up looking them up, and finding songs I didn't know, but would like or finding the names of the songs that we do.

Although I'm not familiar with 1/2 the songs on the playlist, it looks like a good list.

I find when we have a sub that they often will add the more well-known songs that have fairly standard choreo - Dance,Dance,Dance, Pause, or Waka Waka.

Anita, I DO understand how difficult it is to find the perfect playlist! I used to teach a 6 hr figure drawing class, and I found that music was a perfect background for setting the mood, keeping the energy level up and keeping it interesting (they never knew if I would play a surfing song, Punk rock or the music of Kurt Weill from the 30s.) Same as Zumba, we had warmups cool-downs, specific exercises, etc., so I had to work the timing out, pre-think the mood and the speed I wanted, and not get boring with it.

And that was in the mid-80's...very few CDs out, no music players....I recorded my vinyl albums to cassettes...once it was in that order, there was no 'shuffling' or reorganizing! :eek:

[Anita Latte]

I used to make mixed tapes all the time! I would spend hours putting together just the right mix and I would be so excited to go for a walk with my new mix and my Walkman. I would our Yellow Lab, Callaway, on the longest walks...I loved it.

I like to think of a sub as the opportunity to shake things up...and expose people to something new...I think to myself that the first time those that end up loving Zumba take a Zumba class...they get hooked...they don't really know the music or the steps and they may not even understand the methodology of the class...how it is a follow the leader kind of class that follows the music...with repeating moves based on the different parts of the song...but they still get to the end of class and generally they've had a great time and feel like they worked out. So I go back to that...and think of my subbing list as geared toward the beginner...fun and easy to follow...AND...I try to not be too repetitive throughout the songs and do moves that will target different muscle groups so that there has been a full body work out by the end of the class. I think it's just a great bonus that when subbing, hopefully, the students have a bit more experience and so when you start leading a Beto Shuffle (single, single, double move)...the class can quickly pick up on what you trying to cue them to do...so if the moves are clear and the cues are big and clear, everyone should be able to get their good work out in, even though they are doing something totally new.

And the fact that they got a good workout at the end makes the class something of an accomplishment for the students...because they can feel good about themselves for being able to do it with a sub, with new routines, and new music.

[Anita Latte]

Happy Tuesday Everyone!

I went back to the one Zumba class this morning...and I was a guest instructor. I led two songs: Baila Esta Cumbia by the Kumbia Kings and Hola My Friend which is a Zumba Original (I think, because I can't find an different original that Zumba covered...). I had a great time being the guest...it was a reminder of how much I love teaching...I love looking out to the happy, interested faces (the first time someone experiences you as a teacher...if you are doing a good job and they are enjoying it...then it generally shows in some way in their face...later...after the "honeymoon glow" wears off, there are generally less smiles because the enjoyment has matured...can anyone relate to this comment?). When I instruct to a regular group, I can collect more detailed feedback...but when I instruct someone for the first time...if I see that they have the ability to follow allow and are able to do what I am trying to tell them to do...then I feel successful...

It has made me look forward to subbing on Monday night even more...

I was able to talk to a student before class...as well as to the instructor and her Mom. The student seemed to be aged somewhere between Mom and myself...and she was very interested in what I did to lose the weight and inches I've lost. And as most people are...she was pretty amazed at how I really only do Zumba for exercise.

Mom and I were talking...I know that she and I both benefited so much from attending Kelly's class...you can really do a lot of damage to the fat around your middle through Zumba...it takes time...but if you understand certain body mechanics, you can purposefully engage your core in so many different ways through all the different Zumba moves...and I don't think that everyone has the opportunity to really understand this...and I wish they did...because if you continue to do what I think of as core-intensive Zumba...eventually...the fruits of your labors will be evident to all...as Mom is discovering lately.

Unfortunately, I've got a bit of a "vacation bloat" happening...except it's a moving bloat...and a lack of Zumba classes combined with too much continued beer drinking...all this has been on the mend since school started though...so it's all okay...nothing permanent...which is why I'm calling it bloat.

Time for me to really nail down my playlist for subbing...I didn't care for today's playlist AT ALL...the song selections were definitely so very strange...we did "Photograph" by Def Leppard? And this other song from the 80s that totally escapes me right now...it was so not Zumba-like to me...but every instructor picks music that floats their boat...and so long as the students like the boat ride...it's all good. I dealt...but I was glad that I had experienced last week's class first...which just goes to show you why you should probably go to an instructor's class more than once before you make too many judgments about them.

[Member123]

OK.

So, this is really.really.difficult to try to breakdown a playlist for Tuesday night's class. I so wanted to concentrate and remember the choreo for the warm up portion, but wouldn't you know... she completely Shook Things Up! and changed her warm up song(s)! All I can tell you is that we did arm movements on an 8-count, followed by grapevines, followed by arm movements on an 8-count, followed by movement up and knee raises and back and knee raises. Very gentle movements, and the song was Spanish. Unbelievable. I can't catch a single phrase to try to help me locate. Typical Spanish chorus. Trumpets. What?!? :D

Second warm up song. Boyfriend, Justin Bieber.

Third song... off and running. Halle Decale.

I'll work on this as I feel inspired throughout the day.

[fergusonvt]

Zumba at 5 tonight. I can't wait!

[delacruz]

Yesterday's Zumba class was the most fun I've had in a long while, and it's not like I don't have a great time every class!

I've been terribly stressed at work with a major project (replacing a Mail Server at a client with approx 100 users). Lots of weekend work, troubleshooting and tweaking.

I couldn't wait until 5pm yesterday to get out of work and head to Zumba...I really needed to let loose and stop thinking about work (or else get really drunk:p but Zumba was the healthier option). The Tuesday instructor (Pauline) is the more energetic one anyway, so I knew it would be good.

Well, we had 3 new women new to Zumba, and rather than the usual newbie hiding in the back and getting confused, they went at it with great gusto and enthusiasm, laughing loud while putting their all into figuring it out. Pauline reacted to them by playing around with them and making the 'party' even more fun and energetic. So I was dripping wet after 60 minutes but laughed and smiled through the whole class. SO good!!!

After class we've been getting a lot of people asking her to stay and do one more dance - and she's been obliging with either the Cupid Shuffle or the Wobble. I stayed to 'Wobble' - I think I'm finally getting my own 'groove' to it! We walk out of that classroom into the regular gym with people not breaking a sweat at 2mph on the treadmill, or holding phone conversations without breathing heavy slowly peddling a bicycle, and feel like we just did something really great for ourselves and feel sorry that they didn't have as much fun as we just did!

I keep threatening my daughters that when my oldest (25) gets married next year I'm going to do a Zumba Flash Mob or the Wobble, but they tell me one person can't be a Flash Mob ;). Hopefully I won't embarrass them TOO much!

One more thing while I'm finally in a better mood and loving Zumba for helping - it's probably been about a year since I started Zumba, and I forget what song we did yesterday where we have to shimmy....A LOT! I remember last year being so stiff and thinking there was no way my body wanted to jiggle like that. I noticed yesterday that once the shaking starting I just kept it going and no longer felt insecure. So glad to have you guys to share the enthusiasm with!

[Anita Latte]

I love newbies in Zumba classes...especially ones that are so excited to be there...and usually when there are a couple that have come together...I love the way they bounce off each other...it can really boost the atmosphere!

I've finalized my playlist for subbing Monday night...should be a good class. I'm going to kick it for the first half and then there is the fake rest of the second half which focuses more on significant arm movement, especially above heart level...I call this fake rest because the heart rate is sustained through the arm movement but the brain thinks you are getting a break because the footwork is so easy. Should be a great class...since I already posted the songs...I'll just post my new order:

Back In Time (warm up)
Follow the Leader (second warm up)
Waka Waka (calypso cardio kick)
Zoomer (African inspired)
La Despedida (merengue)
Bailando Por el Mundo (merengue/mambo/chacha)
Baila Esta Cumbia (cumbia)
Que Te Pica (reggaeton)
Que Buena Tu Ta (merengue/arms)
Take You to Rio (salsa moves)
Ven a Cumbiar (cumbia)
Hola My Friend (hot hula fitness inspired)
Boro Boro (Bhangra)
Cuando Me Enamoro (Bachata)
I Need to Know (cool down/cha cha)
Caminando Por la Calle (stretch)

This list should be between 56-57 minutes. I cut out all the dead air. The longest song in the Hula song, which is well over 4 minutes...the second warm up, the arm song, the cool down, and the stretch are around 4 minutes, give or take...the other 11 songs are between 3:15 to 3:30 minutes...so this class should FLY. I've been listening to this playlist in the car and all around the house and it has a great flow...I'm excited for Monday night.

[Anita Latte]

I recently took a photo and I was very unhappy with the way my skin looked in the photo. It was the first time that I looked at myself and thought that I actually LOOKED 40. So I've determined to do something about it.

Without going into great detail explaining WHY...I will simply state that I'm doing research into what I am thinking of as Skin Care from the Kitchen. It all makes perfect sense...your skin is our largest organ...and most things that are recommended to eat to nourish your body is recommended topically to nourish and care for your skin:

Yogurt
Honey
Papaya
Pineapple
Pumpkin
Cucumber
Banana
Avocado
Lemon
Olive oil
Almond oil
Jojoba oil (which technically isn't oil)
Turmeric

I KNOW that I need to exfoliate...there are 3 different kinds of exfoliants:

1. Chemical
2. Physical
3. Enzymatic

Since I am interested in kitchen solutions...I'm not interested in what are classified as chemical exfoliants. For physical, there are several options...but when I was in high school, I learned from a skin care professional that in her opinion, the ONLY acceptable physical exfoliant was corn meal. Everything else...ground seeds, nuts, etc...had sharp, hard edges and while they were effective at removing the dead skin layer, they also scratched the layer of skin that was revealed...CORN MEAL, however, was perfectly round...and thus it was excellent at sloughing off the dead skin layer while polishing without scratching the revealed skin.

Enzymatic is so very interesting...papaya, pineapple, and pumpkin are the big three, written about all over.

I'm thinking that I will do an enzymatic facial mask type treatment 2X weekly. It's impractical to do this as an all over body treatment...so I think I'll do a corn meal body treatment also 2X weekly. And see how that goes.

Moisture is very important.

First, and foremost...I KNOW I'm dehydrated. OMG...how many times has this come up in our thread? I tried this...I cut up a lime and put the lime wedges in an open bowl in my fridge...and every time I got water, I squeezed in some lime...it was SO NICE! So...need to hydrate from the inside out...

But some regular moisturizing is also necessary...

So I'm thinking that I can do a deep moisturizing mask treatment 2X weekly. This is the avocado and banana.

One thing that I have been amazed to read about are the skin care benefits associated with the topical use of a banana peel. SERIOUSLY...rub the inside portion of a banana peel to treat severe dry skin, including eczema and psoriasis, mosquito bites, etc etc. I read that banana peel can absorb the heavy metals in water to purify it...and the same banana peel can be used 11X for this purpose because it has the ability to absorb so much metal. There was talk about laying and rubbing the banana peel across the top of your forehead to help with headaches!

For daily moisturizing, honey, yogurt, cucumber, olive oil, almond oil, and jojoba oil are all recommended. Jojoba oil is not really oil...it's a wax ester (I think this means liquid at room temperature).

For dealing with breakouts...jojoba oil, honey, turmeric, and tea tree oil are all recommended.

For lightening skin...lemon as well as others that I can't remember. The thing that I was reading about lemon was a caution as it can be drying to skin.

Figuring out a cleanser is what I am getting a bit hung up on...many of the daily moisturizing ingredients are considered cleansing as well...I'm still researching this one...

Does anyone else make their own skin care products?

[Anita Latte]

It's been a while since we talked about recipe ideas!

I really enjoy the Near East brand of boxed rice. I noticed recently that they have a list of variations where they have different recommendations for what to add to the prepared rice. I can't recall the exact one that we did...but I had the tomatoes and something else available to stir in...and it was SO GOOD.

We recently tried the Whole Grain variety with roasted pecans. I happened to have spinach and red onions...so I added that for our side dish with dinner (I left the raw red onions out of DS's). There was enough leftover for one serving...trying to figure out what to do for myself for lunch the next day...I decided to beef up the single serving to make an amazing one dish meal. I added:

Leftover grilled chicken (seasoned with lemon, garlic, oregano, thyme)
More chopped spinach
Chopped fresh cilantro
Leftover steamed green beans (from the previous evenings' dinner, the bag had 4 servings)
Chopped fresh yellow bell peppers

It was a little dry, so I dressed it with a touch more olive oil...and squirted fresh lime (from my bowl in the fridge) all over...and had an amazing grain salad for lunch. I took a picture to share because it was so good:

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq34/misscurlyfeathertoes/Zumba/003.jpg

Hope this inspires you!

[fergusonvt]

I often use meat, veggies and brown rice to create a skillet dinner. Sometimes I use Mexican seasonings and add black beans. I try to use fresh spices to cut down on sodium. We end up with a healthy meal that isn't just boring meat and veggies. Your pic looks delish!

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[harris.margaret9]

Hey hi there,
I know this is very old thread to reply but I am telling you I am the big fan of Zumba. I enjoy Latin music and I think anyone can join it. It is fun with effective workout especially when I forgot steps.

[Anita Latte]

Hey hi there,
I know this is very old thread to reply but I am telling you I am the big fan of Zumba. I enjoy Latin music and I think anyone can join it. It is fun with effective workout especially when I forgot steps.
Welcome! Zumba IS for everyone...the key is to know how to modify the moves for your personal fitness level...ability...AND for whatever you want to really work that night or that song!

So I taught my first class in GA tonight...and it was AHHHHH-Summmmmmmm! I had a good...it was confirmation for me...the ladies had a good time. I could tell that they were getting pushed...maybe pushed further than they are used to being pushed...and the transition time in class hit at just the right time. You see, the first half of my class is stacked...lots of footwork AND armwork...intervals to a peak and then the second half of the class FEELS like it's easier...

but it isn't. LOL!!!

Songs like my arm song really get you...if your heart rate is up...all that arm movement at and above heart level really sustains that heart rate, even though the footwork for the majority of the song is simply the basic merengue march...and the beat is slow-er, not necessarily slow...but it feels like a break...even as you feel your arms wanting to fall off...BUT...it really isn't.

But that's my second half of the class...it's a bit like the reward side...and I culminate in a decent length for a cool down sequence with a nice stretch at the end...the goal of which is to give you that Ahhh feeling...that feeling that you did your body good.

You know it's a good class when the first comment at the end is...

So where do YOU teach?

!!!!

I'm working on it....etc.

So how will we know when you start teaching?

!!!!

DH thought I should have had business cards...yeah...NO...that's not really the Kosher thing to do when you sub someone else's class. But the class confirmed that I can put together a good class...and that it's a likable class...ladies want to repeat it. And that feels very good to me tonight. I'm excited for the future...I'll get there.

Not sure if I'm going to class tomorrow morning. I have a hair appointment a half hour after class...and I'm SO excited for that...I haven't had a hair cut since last year...so I'm thinking that I don't want to go to my appt feeling like a wet rag...and I dont' think I'd have time enough to shower and change...

We'll see what happens tomorrow.

How is everyone else?

[MJC]

I missed my Zumba class last week, we were on a mini-vaca locally since DH wanted to burn some vacation days in anticipation of some lay-offs this week. Sure enough, Monday he was riffed.

I'm excited for Zumba tonight! I miss my class! At the end of September the boat will go in storage and I'll go back to 2x a week. I wish I could do more but all the classes around here are at night.

I've been using the Lose It! app on my phone to track calories and exercise. In five weeks I've lost six pounds, which is a little ahead of my goal of 1 lb. per week. :) All my clothes are fitting a little loose, which is nice. I've decided there are three things that are real killers for me, that I have to budget for all week though I'm getting to where I just avoid them altogether: alcohol, chocolate, and baked goods. The biggest drag is having to plan ahead for a nice glass of wine with dinner. :(

Also, I recently read a book from the library (simply because I liked the title) called Working Out Sucks. It's not necessarily well-written, but it is motivating to read about health and fitness. My take-away is this:

1. water intake - take your weight, divide in half, subtract 20%, and that's how many ounces of fluid you need in a day (the old 8 glasses rule was completely made up in the 1950s). My nutritionist adds that in the summer when we sweat more, it is important to replenish electrolytes like sodium, potassium, and magnesium for proper cell function and muscle recovery. I do this with supplements rather than sports drinks, though that is why they exist.

2. NEAT - non-exercise activity thermogenesis, or how active is your day? The author stresses that there is not enough time in the day to burn off extra calories in the gym, we must have an active, non-sedentary lifestyle. Whether it's washing the car, cleaning house, having sex, taking a walk during lunch break... they are all an important part of weight loss and health.

3. build in success - careful planning ahead can help you meet your fitness goals. For me this included the following things: taking a class, because I like to exercise with others; starting my weight loss plan during a school break, when I could focus on shopping for and preparing healthy meals; having a good breakfast, so I don't want to snack all day; starting my plan the week after my period, so I wouldn't have to fight cravings and water-weight gain; weighing myself once a week on Wednesdays, not every day; and sharing my plan with my husband, so he can pat me on the back and cheer me on when I tell him "I've lost a pound." I notice he is eating less too.

4. attitude, and variety - there are certain things I HAVE TO do, in terms of weight training for my knees, so I tend to look at my gym time like going to the dentist: it's good for me in the long haul but I don't like it. Now on my non-gym days I try to do something fun like Zumba. Sometimes I just go for a walk. But I've decided to look at fitness time as enjoyable rather than a duty, and I'm working on creating more cross-training to keep it interesting. Mind over matter.



I also caught a brief bit of the Dr. Oz show on hypnosis. The main story was on virtual gastric bypass, however, the following bit on self-hypnosis I've found very motivating. Sometimes when I'm sitting around trying to figure out what to do next, it helps me get up and go do something:

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/hypnosis-weight-loss?video=12128

[letscruisegd]

Welcome! Zumba IS for everyone...the key is to know how to modify the moves for your personal fitness level...ability...AND for whatever you want to really work that night or that song!

So I taught my first class in GA tonight...and it was AHHHHH-Summmmmmmm!
I just found this thread. May I ask where in GA are you? I tried zumba for the first time several months ago and I love it. It's an excellent (and fun) way to workout.

[lindaler]

Anita, I am glad I found this thread. You have inspired me to keep working to get stronger.

[lindaler]

Okay, all you Zumba fans. I have a question. Last night I was told that Zumba is not the way to loose weight. That it builds muscle as fast and the weight comes off. I sure don't want to be a 200 pound muscle. I want to loose at least 50 pounds then I don't mind building muscle. Am I causing myself problems loosing weight by doing this? I need to be down for my cruise so I can go on the helicopter.

[Anita Latte]

Okay, all you Zumba fans. I have a question. Last night I was told that Zumba is not the way to loose weight. That it builds muscle as fast and the weight comes off. I sure don't want to be a 200 pound muscle. I want to loose at least 50 pounds then I don't mind building muscle. Am I causing myself problems loosing weight by doing this? I need to be down for my cruise so I can go on the helicopter.

Who told you this information?

Zumba Fitness is an aerobic exercise with great cardio benefit and some muscle strengthening benefit. However, it is NOT a muscle BUILDING exercise. Other than gravity, there is no resistance movement in a basic Zumba classes. While your body may increase in muscle strength, the likelihood that you are increasing muscle mass is slim...especially in the beginning.

There are several other factors that contribute the whether or not you will be loosing weight as opposed to maintaining a steady weight whenever you start a new exercise program. Hormones are a huge factor for women...but I'm not really an expert on them. I'm not talking about only menstrual cycle related hormones, I'm talking about stress hormones, etc. Starting any type of new activity can be stressful, especially emotional, with consequences that are hard to measure. As crazy as it sounds, the fact that you are doing something new probably creates some heightened emotions...I have heard that people are worried about how they look when they move in a Zumba class, how they compare to others, what others think of them, what to wear, about whether or not they are doing it "right," about whether or not they can keep up, about how they look if they can't, etc etc....there is a plethora of emotions that result from the class alone.

Not to mention what happens outside of class because you are taking a class...depending on time of day...how it effects your dinner schedule...your driving schedule...etc etc.

This is not Zumba alone...this emotional roller coaster can be associated with ANYthing new.

Whenever you start doing something more vigorous...your need for water increases...it's possible that you will retain water until your body understands that you will give it enough water to compensate for the increased activity...most people are chronically dehydrated so this can be especially difficult to overcome if you aren't already a good water drinker...something we have discussed on this thread over and over again.

ALSO...doing increased activity can actually increase your appetite. It's possible to completely overeat whenever you increase your activity level...IF you don't have a plan and stick to that plan...really paying attention to your caloric intake.

These factors can all slow the impact of the start of ANY exercise program.

Meanwhile...back to Zumba...

One of the greatest benefits of Zumba...depending on your instructor and the class that you attend...is the possibility of interval training...or actually, what Zumba calls INTERMITTENT training. This is the idea that you do NOT maintain a steady heart rate throughout the given time of the class. You will have times of faster and slower paces...this can change from song to song or even within a song...the times that your heart beats faster and slower is not a regular interval, and so, Zumba calls this idea the intermittent training that relates to interval. I always relate this idea to miles per gallon achieved in city driving (stop and go) versus highway driving. City driving relates to interval training whereas highway driving relates to a sustained pace and heart rate. Which burns more fuel? We all know that generally highway driving yields a better MPG...so you burn more fuel driving in town...so you burn more fuel in intermittent/interval training. The principle is the same...all the adjustments needed for all the systems in order to constantly change your pace/speed burns more fuel that having those systems be at rest while you/the car operates on cruise control.

The result is what has been termed METABOLIC CONFUSION. Your body is an efficient machine...it constantly seeks to be more efficient...this literally means that it seeks to do the same work using less energy (calories/fuel). The body can remember what you do...muscle memory anyone?...and it can figure out how to cut out the body functions/operations/systems that don't really have to participate in an activity. OR the body works to make the same thing more effective...It's like this...The body says to itself, Are you going to keep lifting this same 20 pound over and over again? Well, we'll just have to make these muscles a bit stronger so that it is easy to lift this 20 pounds. And in weight training, you have to keep increasing your reps and weight in order to continue to build muscle. For cardio, your heart muscle is what gets stronger. This is why you can't keep getting the same result from the same activity over time. This is why you have to change up your routines.

Zumba, and other interval type exercises, are harder for your body to recognize...therefore, it is harder for you body to streamline it's processes in response to the exercise. And this is especially true for the post exercise routines your body goes through.

There is a post exercise period that can be especially helpful for those that are trying to lose weight. Your body has to WORK (use energy/calories) to return to "normal"...the state of being that it maintains in a non-exercising time. You can think of it as a system check...all the different body functions and systems need to have a "check" and some effort applied to recover from your activity. If your body can't recognize what you are doing, it can't streamline the recovery process either. Some people refer to this time as an "exercise afterburn" in a common way...a more technical description is Post-Exrecise Oxygen Consumption (EPOC), which some use to estimate the caloric consumption that occurs after a period of exercise.

Here's what can be thought of as a confusing diet aspect of any exercise. You HAVE to eat right after you exercise...ideally within 15 minutes of the end of your exercise. One body function in the recovery period is the restoration of glycogen in your muscles. Glycogen is the energy stored within your muscles in the form of a complex sugar. The source for this stored sugar/carbohydrate is carbs from your DIET. Your body will NOT convert fat into this stored energy...the production of glycogen is stimulated by carbs entering your bloodstream. If you do not refuel with carbs and provide your body with a source for this energy storage...you will not perform as well the next time you do physical activity, because you won't have the energy to do it. You will feel weak and tired. It has been found that eating protein helps the glycogen restoration process as well as helps any muscle repairwork that is needed after physical activity.

Now it takes energy to digest the carbs, to recognize the sugar in the bloodstream, to respond and convert that sugar into glycogen, move the glycogen to the proper muscles, and store the glycogen. It takes energy to digest the protein...to make use of the amino acids for the necessary muscle repairs. And the preferred source of energy to support these functions is FAT.

This is just one thing to take about in recovery. The fact is that exercise like Zumba has a big body effect and so many other systems need attention...your body can be at work in the recovery process for HOURS. And it is this time period that actually results in the greatest fat burn. The more you confuse and shake up your body (METABOLIC CONFUSION), the more your body has to work to deal with what you have put it through...and the more you can expect to burn fat as a result of the chaos.

Zumba is especially effective at confusing the body. And the better you get at it...the more you can confuse your body. It's not a matter of faster or higher impact...it's a matter of more effective movement, more range of movement, more arms, more core...the result is more overall body movement. I'll give an example:

Let's talk about what makes an effective calorie burn. Let's compare two different routines to the same song. I do the song in these videos:

Slower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-A5ca0HswU
Faster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGhOUxC9rg

Which one would be the better burn? Without a doubt...it's the slower routine. The arms are in almost constant motion and at a level above heart level. Meanwhile...the footwork may be fast on the faster routine...but the arms aren't working. And there are things you can do to even increase the effectiveness of the slower routine beyond what is already is, because there is time to make bigger movements. In the faster routine...the movement is so fast...you can barely keep up with the pace as is...let alone make the movement bigger or exaggerated. To increase the burn on the slower routine, do the chorus travel movement to the side like the Que Te Mueve step in this video (it's the first step in the video, you don't have to watch the whole thing):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDzW2glxO34

This is what I mean by "better" at Zumba. You learn how to do moves in a bigger, engage more muscles kind of way.

Back on topic though...I've tried to talk all around the issue so that I can make the following statement:

ZUMBA is a cardio workout that can affect your muscles' strength...but the claim that you will BUILD muscle as fast as you LOSE fat with a Zumba workout is absurd. When incorporated into a proper eating regimen...Zumba is a very effective way to lose fat weight. The effectiveness of the Zumba workout will vary based on the routines that you do in your Zumba class...how many muscle groups you use and how the playlist affects your heart rate. Ideally...you will use all muscle groups...and be able to work at a varying pace throughout the class.

One thing that we are talking about here is NOT working out at a sustained FAT BURNING pace, whereas there was a belief that if you worked out at a certain level, you would finally deplete the stored energy in your muscles and then your body may access its fat stores to sustain your movement...IF you didn't work too hard...it's like you had to work out at a pace that let your body think it had time to convert fat into energy?

Hmmm.

It's all questionable and debatable, I suppose...

What we are talking about is a class with the emotions like...okay, warming up...we're moving...we're grooving...sweet tunes...nice beat...okay...taking it up a notch and building to the equivalent of hitting it hard for a period of time so that you feel you are working out at your absolute max...then having a period of time where you can more easily sustain your movement...then gradually work it again to the point of OMG...I can't do this for longer than this 3 minute song...YAY! that song is OVER!!...and now you are working hard but not feeling too pushed...now you may even have it easier during this more toning routine...OH...picking up the pace again...OMG...one last push!!...ahhh...going to take it down a notch...whew...sustaining...enjoying...slowing heart rate...stretching...done.

Now the body is like :confused:...what in world just happened to me?

And it recovers...

And there is some other version of the class...a new order even of the same songs...and your body is all confused...

Maybe a new song gets thrown in...

Your body is confused...

And you continue to get good results from your Zumba classes.

Can your body get used to it?

Yes.

Especially if your instructor has a style...favorite movement...and doesn't really change it up too often...if you go to more than one instructor...then you are less likely to get in a rut.

I've talked so much...I don't really know if I've sufficiently addressed your concern...but I'm going to stop now...:cool: If this raises more questions...ask away.

[Member123]

Okay, all you Zumba fans. I have a question. Last night I was told that Zumba is not the way to loose weight. That it builds muscle as fast and the weight comes off. I sure don't want to be a 200 pound muscle. I want to loose at least 50 pounds then I don't mind building muscle. Am I causing myself problems loosing weight by doing this? I need to be down for my cruise so I can go on the helicopter.

I am so glad that you found this thread! I almost posted on your other thread, but decided that my voice over there might not be appropriate since you posted about your difficulty in recovering from the spider bite and how much you've overcome. First let me tell you that I absolutely admire your strong will and obvious fortitude. I think you have a very disciplined mind and that you will be able to meet your goal.

And, you have found Zumba! Rock on!

There are so many health opinions out there; it can get to be mind-boggling. The only thing that I can say about the information that you were given is that I hope it didn't come from someone who thinks they know what they are talking about. That seems to be pretty blunt (maybe I'm channeling Gathina!), but... seriously...

Zumba is a cardio fitness exercise program... first and foremost. It is NOT a strength building program. Even the class that is called Zumba Toning is not really a strength building (muscle) program because the weights just aren't big enough. Toning in Zumba is done with 1 to 2-lb weights and is really a method for people to learn to engage their muscles rather than build up anything that is remotely close to a bulked (cut) muscle.

Yes, your muscles will become stronger... sleeker... and more toned by doing Zumba... especially your calves and quads (big thigh muscles). If you do it right, you will see some toning in your arms (triceps and biceps) and shoulders (especially rhomboids). This happens with the over-the-head movements... which (by the way) are also designed to make your heart beat faster and, therefore, burn more calories.

Zumba is a calorie burn. A significant calorie burn. You will, absolutely, lose weight by doing Zumba... especially if you push yourself to really perform. You will not lose weight by doing aerobic, calorie burning exercise, if you don't get to the point where you are making your heart beat faster and breaking a sweat. No amount of walking on the treadmill so slowly that you can read a book is going to give you the same amount of weight loss as moving your body against gravity and WORKING your cardio system... your heart and your lungs.

I know that you are most interested in the scale because of your goal to get into that helicopter. I hear that you might be concerned because you've probably heard the following: muscle weighs more than fat. The reason that muscle weighs more than fat is because of the amount of liquid that it can contain. That's beside the point for you... because you need to reach that goal of being able to get into the helicopter.

In my opinion. Based upon my own experience. You will lose a significant amount of weight by doing Zumba. When you first get started, the weight will come off of you because of your cardio fitness burn; it will just happen. Yes, you might see a period of time where the scale seems not to budge; and you might become disheartened by that fact. Don't. Let. That. Happen. Your body will be changing and will be adjusting to get rid of the fat that is currently clinging to it. The weight will come off... probably when you least expect it!

Anyway, others can jump in here and tell you their experience with Zumba. I had a few issues when I started doing Zumba: menopause and thyroid. I've been doing Zumba for almost 2 years! That's an amazing fact for me since I've always hated cardio! My first Zumba exercise log is dated December 2010! I didn't have a bunch of weight to lose, but what I had to lose... is gone... I'm the same weight that I was in my early 30's!

True weight loss is a three-pronged assault on the fat on your body. (1) Diet.. no amount of exercise can make up for putting caloric overload into your body... (2) Hydration... you've GOT to give your body the water that it needs in order to do the thermal burn that you want it to do to get rid of the stored fat ... (3) exercise... calorie burn over and above what you have given your body in food and what you normally burn throughout the day.

So tell us how you felt at Zumba. Was it fun? Did you enjoy yourself? Do you like to move your body to music? Was the instructor engaging? Did you like the exercise personality on display? Did you enjoy other people in the class? Most importantly... are you going back?

[delacruz]

Anita, I really appreciate getting the 'behind the scenes' info from you as to what goes on in the thought process of the song selection, choreography, interval training, etc. It's a real testimony to a good Zumba instructor that you can have a 1 hr party with a great time dancing yet getting such great benefits to your health.

Linda, ignore the misinformation you heard about turning into a mass of muscle and weighing more from doing Zumba. When I have a great food plan day, burn a few hundred calories doing Zumba and complain the next day that I gained weight - the helpful people around me tell me it's because muscle weighs more than fat....NO, it's because I sabotage myself with boredom eating at night!:eek:

After seeing a photo of myself in a swimsuit on a cruise when my weight started approaching the 200 mark I joined Weight Watchers. I did very well with it, got to within 10 lbs of my goal (realistically the top of the healthy range), and was at a standstill. Part of it was that I began to feel very happy with how I looked and felt, partly I started 'cheating' and partly I was in a rut on the treadmill. I could speedwalk (bad ankles - can't run) easily at 4mph at a good incline for 1/2 hr on the treadmill but not break a sweat, and I knew I needed to do something more effective - I wanted to get to my goal BEFORE our cruise 2 months later.

When I started taking Zumba I hid in the back of the class because I was afraid I was too dorky and wouldn't catch on. Quickly I realized that if I just moved in the right direction and did what I could, I was already getting a better workout. I was disappointed that the scale didn't appear to move, but when I went shopping for a new formal dress a few weeks later, I ended up buying a size smaller than I thought i was. Then FINALLY the last few lbs came off and I made WW lifetime.

Now, I have to admit, I haven't kept my eating in check as well as I should - but even tho my weight hasn't come back down, the more I do Zumba, the more people ask me if I've lost more weight. Now that I'm not afraid to go 'all out' with shimmying, shaking, thinking I'm Shakira, :p I've gotten curvier - in a good way!

Personally I find I HAVE to do this in a class environment - I have the Wii game and videos, but without the interaction of the teacher and class I don't go all out and keep going. And I've yet to get bored...I'm almost as addicted to Zumba as I am to cruising!

[lindaler]

Wow, Anita. Thanks so much. I read your answer to my husband and then re-read it and looked at your examples and then one more time I savored it. So encouraging.

And yes, I am enjoying the movement and can see how it can become addictive. Much more fun than other excerises. And right now I feel old, clumsy and like a lump of "fat" but know that the only way out of that way of thinking is to get better, feel better and keep with it. I still can not go the full hour but soon. I do hope that they have Zumba classes on my cruise.

I do watch my calorie count and the part about the after burn is so enlightening. Today I had skipped breakfast but after zumba I ate my favorite power bar and I almost had a high for about an hour afterwards. What a great feeling. If working out can make you feel that way, why would anyone stop?

[Anita Latte]

Just of few more encouraging words...

First...the main one. NO ONE is born coordinated. NO ONE. Coordination is a learned activity. Depending on when you have been exposed to different things in your life...you may FEEL more or less coordinated because the time it takes for you to "catch on" may be less or more...however...this does not negate the fact that you have to LEARN coordination. I have several routines where the arms and the legs are moving...sometimes the same arm and same leg move...sometimes it's the opposite arm and leg...I always tell my class...pick an arm...pick a leg!...MOVE...doesn't matter which ones you are moving...MOVE. The ONLY time it really matters in a Zumba class that you distinguish between the right and the left is when you TRAVEL...and then, by golly...you better MOVE...and move in the right direction...even if you are doing different steps...TRAVEL. But that's it...the only time. Stop feeling clumsy...remember that you are in a CLASS...you are a STUDENT...you are LEARNING...frame the event in a more positive mindset...the fact that you are DOING is a success in an of itself...do not take away from this success.

One of my students gifted herself with taking my class for her 61 birthday. She is from England but has lived in the states for many years. Boy was she a hoot though. ANYWAY...she was the most uncoordinated person. Her movements were generally awkward...slightly offbeat...but her SMILE...her fun factor was HIGH. You see, she had had a brain aneurysm and it had a horrible effect on her depth of perception. She said she couldn't walk through a doorway without hitting the jams as she walked through. She's my shining example of NOT CARING and HAVING FUN. And you know...she lost SO MUCH taking my classes. I won't go into detail...but she and Mom would commiserate before class about all the trials/effects that you have to deal with...that no one talks about...when you lose weight.

Second...I'm a chesty girl. My instructor would do shoulder shimmies. It's a great move. If you lift your arms out to the side so that your hands are parallel to the floor and at the same level as your shoulders...you can engage all the muscles in your arms as well as your upper back and upper chest with a shoulder shimmy move. I HATED the way my whole upper body would shake when we shimmied. Seriously. It was almost embarrassing to me that I would shake so much...but I thought to myself...got to shake it to lose it...and I would look toward the ceiling and shimmy for all I was worth. So I know all about feeling like a lump of fat as well.

I'm watching Masterchef...I really enjoy that show. One of the contestants is blind. Can you imagine? She just made it to the final two...the season finale is next Monday...anyway...I was watching the episode On Demand yesterday morning and I remember thinking to myself that in competition, in some ways, this blind woman has an advantage. She can't be bothered with what the competition is doing and letting it affect HER performance. She is entirely focused on herself and getting the job done to the best of her ability without having the distraction of comparing herself by what she sees others doing.

And I thought to myself that in some respects...there's a fabulous lesson there. Like a racing horse that has shields around their eyes so that they lose their peripheral vision...we need to be focused on our course...our own performance...ourselves...and not concerned with what others are doing.

Now I understand that it can be helpful to look at others for help...I know that before I became an instructor...there were some students that followed me in the class...they could see me better than Kelly (I'm like 3-4 inches taller than Kelly)...and sometimes, Kelly was moving SO MUCH of her body...it could be difficult to figure out the basic move she was doing from a distance...I'm not talking about that...I'm talking about letting others have a negative impact on your journey because you LET them by wondering what others are thinking or by your own thoughts that find yourself wanting because of how you perceive you compare to others.

That is fabulous that you had an "exercise high!" There IS an endorphin release that occurs after exercise. I read somewhere that this is all part and parcel of the reward your body gives you for doing something healthy like exercise. I would take this as a very positive sign that your body is really LIKING what is happening to it with what you are doing in Zumba! WTG!!!

[MJC]

Here's what can be thought of as a confusing diet aspect of any exercise. You HAVE to eat right after you exercise...ideally within 15 minutes of the end of your exercise. One body function in the recovery period is the restoration of glycogen in your muscles. Glycogen is the energy stored within your muscles in the form of a complex sugar. The source for this stored sugar/carbohydrate is carbs from your DIET. Your body will NOT convert fat into this stored energy...the production of glycogen is stimulated by carbs entering your bloodstream. If you do not refuel with carbs and provide your body with a source for this energy storage...you will not perform as well the next time you do physical activity, because you won't have the energy to do it. You will feel weak and tired. It has been found that eating protein helps the glycogen restoration process as well as helps any muscle repairwork that is needed after physical activity.

Now it takes energy to digest the carbs, to recognize the sugar in the bloodstream, to respond and convert that sugar into glycogen, move the glycogen to the proper muscles, and store the glycogen. It takes energy to digest the protein...to make use of the amino acids for the necessary muscle repairs. And the preferred source of energy to support these functions is FAT.

Anita, thank you for this information. I get home late from Zumba and we always eat dinner right away. I've been wondering if this is a mistake, even though after exercising I just feel like eating less (which is a good thing).

Let's talk about what makes an effective calorie burn. Let's compare two different routines to the same song. I do the song in these videos:

Slower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-A5ca0HswU
Faster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGhOUxC9rg

Which one would be the better burn? Without a doubt...it's the slower routine. The arms are in almost constant motion and at a level above heart level. Meanwhile...the footwork may be fast on the faster routine...but the arms aren't working.

This is so illuminating. I think it's also interesting to note in the second video that many of the people aren't getting any exercise at all because they aren't able to do the steps. If you take your eyes off the instructor and look at the group, it doesn't look like they're doing much. Also, one of the benefits of doing latin steps is latin motion (the movement of the hips and torso). I love the core work I get from that. They don't seem to be doing that at all.

[fergusonvt]

Anita, I really appreciate getting the 'behind the scenes' info from you as to what goes on in the thought process of the song selection, choreography, interval training, etc. It's a real testimony to a good Zumba instructor that you can have a 1 hr party with a great time dancing yet getting such great benefits to your health.

Linda, ignore the misinformation you heard about turning into a mass of muscle and weighing more from doing Zumba. When I have a great food plan day, burn a few hundred calories doing Zumba and complain the next day that I gained weight - the helpful people around me tell me it's because muscle weighs more than fat....NO, it's because I sabotage myself with boredom eating at night!:eek:

After seeing a photo of myself in a swimsuit on a cruise when my weight started approaching the 200 mark I joined Weight Watchers. I did very well with it, got to within 10 lbs of my goal (realistically the top of the healthy range), and was at a standstill. Part of it was that I began to feel very happy with how I looked and felt, partly I started 'cheating' and partly I was in a rut on the treadmill. I could speedwalk (bad ankles - can't run) easily at 4mph at a good incline for 1/2 hr on the treadmill but not break a sweat, and I knew I needed to do something more effective - I wanted to get to my goal BEFORE our cruise 2 months later.

When I started taking Zumba I hid in the back of the class because I was afraid I was too dorky and wouldn't catch on. Quickly I realized that if I just moved in the right direction and did what I could, I was already getting a better workout. I was disappointed that the scale didn't appear to move, but when I went shopping for a new formal dress a few weeks later, I ended up buying a size smaller than I thought i was. Then FINALLY the last few lbs came off and I made WW lifetime.

Now, I have to admit, I haven't kept my eating in check as well as I should - but even tho my weight hasn't come back down, the more I do Zumba, the more people ask me if I've lost more weight. Now that I'm not afraid to go 'all out' with shimmying, shaking, thinking I'm Shakira, :p I've gotten curvier - in a good way!

Personally I find I HAVE to do this in a class environment - I have the Wii game and videos, but without the interaction of the teacher and class I don't go all out and keep going. And I've yet to get bored...I'm almost as addicted to Zumba as I am to cruising!

I hear you about the Wii and dvd's. I've got them all but it's so much more fun in a class environment. Same thing with the gym. I'd go faithfully 3 mornings a week and do weights and some cardio but this morning I tried a boot camp class and loved it. Came home wringing wet and exhausted but felt like I got so much more out of it because I had a task master. Doing Zumba tonight too! Hope I can walk in the morning.

[MJC]

So I just want to share that, Wednesday being "weigh in" day for me, I'm down 8 pounds in 7 weeks. That's one ahead of my goal of 1# per week, using Zumba, the gym, and Lost It! to track my calorie intake. I started back to work yesterday and everyone said "you look great!" What a great motivator!

Linda, when I started Zumba I chose a spot in the room where I couldn't see myself in the mirror, so I wasn't distracted by how I looked and could just focus on having a good time. :) I think we all need strategies for dealing with the insecurities that come with trying something new.

Last week I went to check on my parents so I missed my Zumba class. But in the spirit of getting some exercise every day, I played tag in the yard with my brother's future stepdaughters. What fun! Also a round of golf with my dad, and some time on the recumbent bike, so I kept on target for the week.

[fergusonvt]

Zumba is so much fun! Even with the two boot camp classes I've done this week at 5:30am this will be my third Zumba class tonight. What can I say, I'm addicted! Without Zumba I wouldn't have lost my 23 pounds since May.

[Anita Latte]

In the spirit with which I began this thread...using it as a sounding board for all kinds of research, encouragement, motivation, etc etc...this post is posted. Because I need to encourage myself today...

Two YEARS ago...two years ago YESTERDAY as a matter of fact...I took the Zumba class that would ultimately change my life forever...that is...it HAS changed my life in so many positive ways...and through me, Zumba has worked its own wonders for many others.

BUT.

It's been since June 28 since I have performed REGULAR exercise.

Today is September 13.

That is 77 DAYS...11 WEEKS!!

UGH.

I was lured into a false sense of security in my ability to maintain my progress through the move. Like Margaret said earlier...active lifestyle...only for me...it was more like FRANTIC lifestyle...constantly in motion and working to get the packing done...the moving done...etc etc. I had in fact made MORE progress in the weight loss department during the moving months. I was that busy.

But the moving months ended August 3.

And since then...I've lost the ground gained during the moving months...

And possibly another few pounds...(It's difficult to say...) but regardless...what should have been a blip on the scale...hasn't been...because I did not reestablish a routine of physical activity once the move was over.

So taking stock...I measured myself. It's just too sad. I weighed myself. This is also sad. The new clothes that I bought here in GA with the latest weight loss are uncomfortable...and I am actually feeling uncomfortable because I can actually feel the difference in my body. Don't get me wrong...everything else fits...it's just the absolute latest purchase of 4 new bottoms...

Continuing to take stock...I understand that my teaching schedule was too much. And when that tapered off to the 2X a week...it felt good...especially since I had so much going on...and when I was no longer teaching...I have to admit...that felt good for a while too...like a vacation. And the moving process was very taxing...and I was happy to chill for a while once it was done. I know that I needed a bit of a break from all the pressure that I felt under with everything surrounding the move.

But it's time to get real.

I have got to get back to my Zumba.

Not everyone understands. But I know ya'll do. I love the classes not only for the music, the movement, the sweat, etc etc...but it is one of the few times in the week where I am completely in the moment...I am away for my normal environment...I am not surrounded by my To Do List...it's a major mental break...a major stress reliever. And I've missed it.

I went to another Zumba class on Monday.

It was okay.

I'm a Christian...this class was also in a church...and they played worship music for a first warm up song and the stretch song. I don't mind...but for me...I didn't love it. I think they must do a lot of their own choreo, like the other instructor, because a lot of their moves were alike...not too much variety.

There are super cheap gyms around here. $15 a month. No contract. No joiner fee. All the classes included. They have Zumba. It is making sense now why there are so few independent Zumba classes. I have to decide if I am going to join a gym to take Zumba...or what.

So today. I unpacked my sound system (it was still in my car from subbing)...I set it up...and I did the same class for myself that I did when I subbed.

And I kicked my own butt.

I am a wet rag.

And during a part of it...I thought to myself...:eek:

Because I have definitely lost some cardio. And my "Arms from Hell" was a total killer for me in a way it hasn't been since Kelly first did that routine.

And I have to share.

It wasn't really fun. To Zumba by myself in my family room. It felt like exercise. It was not a party. It FELT like a work out.

And I'm thinking that this is what I need to do to light that fire that will help me get out there and get my own classes going again...one way or another. Keep doing my thing...at home...set a schedule for working on new routines...make my own deadlines...maybe try to video some of my routines...just to add purpose to my at home Zumba...even to just archive them so I don't forget. Get my cardio back...and seriously explore teaching options.

I'm proud of myself.

I understand this...a body in motion is easy to keep in motion. If you lose your routine...it's absolutely a piece of work to get your routine back and/or to make a new one.

This is my first real battle on my journey to health and wellness.

And today, I had a victory.

I'm sharing because this is real. I've been pretty self motivated for a long time...and this is the first real struggle I've had since the holidays right after I first started this new lifestyle. And the holidays are right around the corner!

I have motivated myself today. But I could sure use some more chatter on this thread.

Anyone have a new fav in your class?

[lindaler]

I am so glad you shared, first it made you feel human which in turn gave me hope. Second, you did it, you got back up. It is so easy to make excuses. No one would blame me if I said the pain was too much so I have a built in excuse but I won't let myself use that. Like you I need to self motivate. You are truely inspirational to be so open and honest and willing the share. And you did it.

Since you are home with all your equipment and you have a computer and you have several of us who are writing, (just a crazy suggestion) maybe you could use skype and be our teacher.

[Member123]

I have motivated myself today. But I could sure use some more chatter on this thread.


OK.

Nothing that you said surprises me at all.

We know a few things. The first thing that we know is: the body is a very efficient machine and loves to store energy for future use. If you have allowed yourself to get "out of shape" in the past, then you've taught your body the most efficient method for it to store energy for future use... well, you know that is euphemistic talk.. and in the expression you used to "keep it real," we should just call if what it is. So, in plain speak, if you've taught your body to store fat then it becomes very good at storing fat.

So, when you stopped your physical expenditure of calories, then you just allowed your body to return to a physical state that was a learned response to eating more calories than you needed.

You know what else? I've read that it takes a MONTH to change a habit. If you look at that one way, you say ONLY a MONTH? and if you look at it another way, you say WOW a WHOLE MONTH? The problem was the exercise interruption was that month lapse of time when the packing was going full force and the move was happening. And, so the month... stretched into two months... and began a march into three months... and so... now....

the good news is that you realized what was happening before you reverted completely to square one! You did NOT revert to square one... and that's the good news.

You know... I've been doing Zumba for quite a while. You know that I have periodic interruptions... after all this is a cruise forum! LOL... and I've had a lapse between classes of at least 3 weeks and some days. So that first class back after that lapse of time... OMG... gasping for air.. and it feels like DAY ONE all over again. But, it isn't. That feeling only lasts for one.. maybe two.. classes and then it's full steam ahead and back to normal.

Again, the body is an efficient machine. You've been exercising long enough that your body knows what will be demanded of it... if you return to a schedule. You might feel all wrung out a few more times, and then you'll have to work at it to feel that effort again.

So, today's Zumba class didn't feel like a party either! She put too many new songs into the rotation. I felt like a complete stumble bunny.. and I didn't LOVE it! PLUS, my Tuesday instructor did a song with a routine that just literally killed my quads. They're still sore! Who says you can't tone with Zumba?!? Who says that?!?

OK.

Starting over. But, not really. But, revisiting the basics.

Basic # 1: DRINK WATER. HYDRATE.

As you know, I got hold of Bob Harper's new book. So, in a nutshell he has made this his Number One Rule.

Let me share some information from the book.

Bob wants you to drink a large glass of water before every meal and immediately upon waking up in the morning.

Here's some research.

A group of researchers examined the resting energy expenditure (REE) of twenty-one obese children. REE refers to the rate at which you burn calories when you are sleeping, watching TV, or just simply sitting there and staring into space. (Note: I thought this was called BMR or basal metabolic rate?). The researchers gave the kids a large serving of cold water, then began measuring the REE every 10 minutes. The reaction was more robust than anticipated. Within 24 minutes, REE began increasing. By 57 minutes, REE had increased by 25 percent, and this effect lasted for 40 mintues.

Did you get that? Just by drinking water, your body increases its burning of calories. Drinking water helps in other physical ways as well. When you start conscientiously drinking lots of water, your workouts improve. You get less muscle fatigue; you recuperate faster; and you don't feel groggy in the afternoon.

I put this out there because I know you have an issue with this. As Bob says, "Don't tell me it's hard. Just do it!" Can you hear his voice in that statement?

Do you want to know the Quad Killer Song? I can try to find it, if you do.

[Anita Latte]

Linda! Have I seemed inhuman? LOL!!! I think I understand what you mean...I've been motivated for a very long time...and that hasn't really waned since I determined to change my life. It is too easy to make excuses...you are doing great in that respect...some excuses are very real...but if anyone truly wants to change, you find a way to overcome...it may not be the ideal...but I have learned that it is generally better to just get started at whatever point you can and then improve...you can't start at the top.

And you aren't the first person to suggest virtual classes to me...many of my students in TX really wanted me to do that.

Yes, Mom, I want that quad song. I have to look at Kisha's Facebook still...

And I agree with everything you wrote...you are such a great Mom!

I've been looking for music...this song isn't super recent...but it is a nice, slower cumbia beat...and I love the words...

"La Vida Es Bella (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3H8B2MIJ50)" by Ana Isabelle feat. Chino y Nacho

This song makes me happy. I think I would love to be dancing to this in a class. Looking for more...

[Anita Latte]

This is for your brain studies:

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[Member123]

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So what does it mean if I can read this? And, it was true... by the time I got to the line that said it would be easier and my reading would become faster... well, it did. So, what does that mean? Don't keep me hangin'! :D

You know your Dad always says that no one else on the planet thinks the way that I do... don't make him right! LOL.

[lindaler]

[quote=Anita Latte;35330074]Linda! Have I seemed inhuman?quote]
Not inhuman just super human. You seem to have it all together with the diet and the excerise. To see that even you backslide once in a while means there might be hope for me yet and then you get back up and keep at it.

I did some Zumba yesterday and in trying to do the latin moves twisted my knee funny. It hurt all night and into this morning. I told my DH that I hurt and didn't want to walk. He said, just do what you feel like. Well, I felt like a hot chocolate with whip cream and going back to bed with a book and the cat but that doesn't solve anything and what would Anita do. So I took some Ibprofen and started out. Today I walked a dirt road just outside of the park. It was so exciting to watch the tracks of animals who walked there last night, from bobcat to raccoon to deer it was exciting to do and I actually felt better after I got home.

We have been doubling up on our water intake and both of us are in line to loose more than three pounds tomorrow at our weigh in. That makes 10 pounds in all so far. Not great but it gets me closer to our goal.

So you, Anita, have to take some credit for inspiring and motivating me into this.

[Member123]

Lindaler. Hi there.

You know that I'm Anita's Mom, right?

Let me talk a little bit about knee issues. I know that coordination is learned movement and you have to get your brain actively engaged in order to move your body in the way that you want to.

You and I are the same age.

This is what I know about knees and Zumba. Are you familiar with the dance called "cumbia?" This is the one that mimics having one leg be positioned on the floor with non-movement while the other leg is moving. Anita is good at finding dance steps on youtube; I'm not as savvy, but I tried to find one for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnXvFngnRUQ

This dance routine was a real problem for me until Anita analyzed what I was doing wrong. Basically, my feet were not moving in the same direction as my knees; this routine hasn't been a problem since we discussed my knee mechanics and I make a very concentrated effort to make sure that my knees and feet are moving in the same direction. The movement that she makes around 1:25 on this song is the one that was giving me fits. What I do is actually turn my body in the direction of the movement so that my feet are heading in the same direction as my knees. Anyway, in case your last class had a lot of cumbia moves in it, then I'd suggest looking at yourself in the mirror and make absolutely sure that your feet are traveling in the same direction as your movement. I sure hope that I'm making sense.

The other problem move for me is the box step or the jazzy box step. This is the move where you hit the four corners of the imaginary box on the floor? Anyway, if the instructor wants to do a box step where you cross your feet; in other words, imagine taking your left foot and placing it in front of your right foot so that your body forms an "x" and then shifting your weight back onto your right foot and then taking your left foot and bringing it back to the original position.... well that cross over movement is a killer to my knee(s) and hip(s). Anita told me that this type of movement can be a problem if you step wrong and exert too much stress on your joint(s) or if you have tight hips. So, the simple answer to doing that type of box step is to NOT cross over; just do a movement where your foot goes forward without making the "x." Again, I hope that I'm making sense.

Here's a fact: FOR EVERY ONE LB OF WEIGHT LOST, YOU TAKE 4 LBS OF PRESSURE OFF OF YOUR KNEE. FOR EVERY ONE LB OF WEIGHT LOST, YOU TAKE 3 LBS OF PRESSURE OFF OF YOUR HIP JOINT. FOR EVERY ONE LB OF WEIGHT LOST, YOU TAKE 9 LBS OF PRESSURE OFF OF YOUR PATELLA FEMORAL JOINT (the one used when you climb stairs or stand up from a seated position).

Isn't that a big WOW.

OK. You did the absolute best thing for your knee by taking a walk. One of the things that you have to do is move the joint and get the blood flowing through it. Keeping the joint immobile (even if it included a good cup of hot chocolate!) would have been the worst thing for you to do. The key is to have gentle, non-stressed movement. If you are at all interested in yoga or pilates then those movements would be great for you to do. Kind of wakeup movements for the body in the morning, etc.

So, yeah!

And if you are interested in supplements, then a good supplement is Glucosomine (if you aren't allergic to shellfilsh, etc so look up this recommendation if it is news to you to make sure that it would be a good idea).

The last thing that I know about knees is that their alignment depends upon the balance between your quadriceps and hamstring muscles. So, if you have tight hamstrings, you can throw your knee alignment out of whack. With Zumba, you are doing quite a bit of work for your quadriceps, especially if your instructor likes to do any toning movements like squats. Just make sure that your hamstrings don't tighten up. Again, specific yoga moves would be good or at least making sure that you thoroughly stretch your hamstrings after class!

[Anita Latte]

Edited to add: I have been in the process of typing this response over a period of time...Mom posted while I was replying...but I didn't have a chance to read what she posted before I posted because I didn't even see she had posted. It'll be fun to go back and read what she wrote! But keep that in mind...because we could be repetitive.

So you, Anita, have to take some credit for inspiring and motivating me into this.

Mom has reported in the past that the success rate of those that have some sort of support system is SO MUCH higher than those that go it alone. That support system does not have to be in person...it can be someone you know and talk to on the phone...or amazingly enough...it can be a virtual group like this thread. I'm so glad that you are inspired and motivated!

I'm very sorry to read that you twisted your knee...

Couple things...1. Pay attention to the direction that your toes and knees are pointing...they should be pointing in the same direction. One example of a move where you might have a lazy foot is in the "sleepy leg" move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXz-eLq_PDI

I've noticed that sometimes one foot doesn't want to point in the direction that you are moving and the foot will actually be pointing at an angle in the opposite direction...this is very stressful on the knee.

If your routines add a turn around move to the sleepy leg, like in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNS8DdwZZEQ

You need to watch how you work your feet...do you drag your foot a bit or do you pick up your foot? Picking up your foot to hit the different angles puts lets stress on the knee...if you kind of drag or pivot your foot...then that is stressful on the knee.

The other steps that can have that kind of lazy foot that doesn't want to point in the direction that you are moving...and thus point in the same direction as your knee is a Salsa Travel Step...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3BheSkUVrE

Your knee can really get stressed if you actually cross your legs like the lead girl is in the following video...notice that the back girl on the right doesn't cross her legs, but does more of a step together step style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGGIpjxyle8

I've also noticed a tendency to go pigeon toed, like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5dQe1beN2U

This is a tutorial video...which is sad...because I believe their technique is hard on the knees...it looks wiggly?...they don't show the feet much, but you can see that they are landing on their toes...if you can study their feet. Not good. I don't know if this woman is naturally pigeon-toed, but she has her toes pointed inward on many different steps:

http://video.about.com/exercise/Beginner-Zumba-Steps.htm

I believe that this is stressful on your knees because your weight isn't evenly distributed left to right on your feet...you end up with more weight on the outside of your foot...this can in turn affect the knee above.

This is proper form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCObYi4dW2M

She even talks about landing flat on your feet. Your hip kind of sinks into the floor with the flat foot...the hip movement isn't necessarily a twisting movement...it's more like up and down, side to side...think of making the distance between your ribs and hips to be smaller on one side and longer on the other side....with your ribs and hips still facing the same direction. And notice that her hips, knees, and toes are all pointing forward.

Observe yourself, if you can...to see if you have either one of these tendencies...to have feet that point away from each other...or toward each other.

Also, try to notice what kind of movement you are doing if you feel that stress in your knee. We can talk about modifications that you could do to help, if your instructor isn't showing modifications. It's surprising how individual body mechanics really affect the body. Many times, I didn't realize certain moves that could be stressful...but the lady that owned the Curves I used to teach at had trouble with her knees and she would be very upfront with me in talking to me about when she had troubles so we could talk about the cause and what she could do differently.

[kasi1979]

hi Ladies,

I know I´ve been away for quite some time. As some of you will remeber, I started a new job in april. All is well, jobwise, however I kinda dropped out of my workout schedule.
I made several attempts to get back in the groove and up to now did not find the neccessary motivation in myself to get going.

We are heading to a wedding today that the whole family has been preparing for for weeks. When we return tomorrow I´m all set to get back to some sports.
I´ll start out at the gym and than I´ll give Zumba another go next week. I have to find out if my right ankle and my knee are willing to dance or if I´ll habe to find another sport as these two joints have been bothering me even walking on flat surfaces for some time...

What else is new and exciting? As this is a cruise board: I´ve my next cruise lined up. We are heading for a transatlantic cruise (Italy to Miami) in early november *yeah*.

[Member123]

hi Ladies,

What else is new and exciting? As this is a cruise board: I´ve my next cruise lined up. We are heading for a transatlantic cruise (Italy to Miami) in early november *yeah*.

HELLO! We've missed you!

So, I can't believe that I'm going to miss you AGAIN by just a few weeks! I missed you in Venice by a week and now I'm going to miss you in Miami. I will be there at the end of November.

Are you going to stay on in Miami for any length of time? Will you be returning home from MIA or FLL? If you need any tips or information on the area, I might be able to help you because we've stayed in the area several times and I know quite a few people who might also be able to help with any information.

What ship are you sailing? Ports?

Sorry to hear about your joint issues, as well. Those joints are no joke when it comes to treating them with concern and attention. Thinking good thoughts for you and hoping you can return to Zumba.

Enjoy the wedding! Tell us the highlights. :D

[fergusonvt]

Zumba was cancelled this morning. I was disappointed so am going hiking instead. Beautiful late summer day, sunny and 67.

Sent from my LePanII using Tapatalk 2

[MJC]

Wow, there have been so many interesting posts this week, I feel like I just have to chime in. I’m so excited to see so much information sharing going on. I find it so helpful.

First, Anita, while I am not happy for you that you had your recent battle with backsliding, I am so glad you shared with us because we are all here to support each other, even indomitable souls like you who don’t seem to need it. :) I’m happy that you’re posting as you work this out because everyone can learn from your experience, and you articulate your ideas so well. I had a backslide that lasted 6 or 7 years so you really should cut yourself some slack!

Oh, I do have a new (old) fave in my class, a Mark Anthony song called “Need to Know” which I like because it’s one of the few I can sing along with as we dance! Our teacher asked us to share some music with her and she would choreograph to it, and one of the other ladies brought it in. My second new favorite, I don’t know the name, we have to shout Opa!, Opa! during the chorus. It’s fun. I bought some beautiful music in Cambodia that I'm going to give her.


Second, the idea of community is SO important, and is really the backbone of other successful programs like WW or AA that seek to fundamentally change behavior. I’m starting to finally get to know the women in my Zumba class in spite of the language barrier, and it is so nice! One of the many minor tragedies for me of my career change was losing the community of like-minded people that I spent hours with every day. Some people are happy to sit by themselves in a cube all day, but we Zumba folks are not like that, we need to dance together!

What your mom shared about our bodies returning to a physical state that was learned was so wise. Also, genetics are a powerful force -- all I have to do is look at my mother to know where my belly and long legs came from. My sister has the pear shape that comes from my father’s side.

There was an excellent documentary on PBS a few years back about epigenetics, or how our behavior can influence how our genes are passed to our kids. It basically said that, for example, if you overeat and become fat, even though your family may have started out with “thin” genes your families genes will adapt over time to express as fat genes, and vice versa. So, it’s not completely behavioral or genetic, but a combination of those two forces acting together. This is a very unscientific synopsis, but if you are interested you can read more about epigenetics on the Web.

About the brain study paragraph – this is always shared around on teaching websites. Our eyes don’t read one letter at a time, they constantly track back and forth. Context is everything. At a seminar once, the instructor wrote “An elephant… “ on the board and asked everyone to complete the sentence. Of course we all knew it was the beginning of a joke! But the exercise was meant as a reminder that our ESL students would not have the context to sort that out. I think things like that are SO interesting, I love reading about our quirky brains.

As for knee injuries, well, I know a few things about that. However, I am not a doctor and I don’t even play one on TV, but in addition to NSAIDS to reduce swelling and manage pain I generally ice my knees for ten minutes after a workout. I also use nightly massage with Ben Gay or similar to stimulate blood flow and work on the tissues if my knees are hurting. I have a tendency to chronic patellar tendonitis so I also wear patellar straps when I work out (you can find them on the web), NOT the ace bandage type that compress the front of the knee. I don’t do any movement that requires a more than 90 degree bend in the knee, which really puts strain on the patellar and quadriceps tendons, like some people do in a lunge. I generally stretch those tendons gently myself at the end of class while I'm warm.

For anyone doing Zumba, or any other sport, really, I double and triple Anita and Pam’s recommendations to really watch that your knees stay over your toes. I’m not supposed to twist my knees so I modify any Zumba steps that I feel are putting that kind of pressure on them. When I saw the video that Anita posted of the pigeon-toed girls I just wanted to cry for them -- I know what their future holds and it isn’t pretty. The knee is a hinge joint like your elbow but with more lateral motion, which is what gets us into trouble. Some weight-lifting leg extensions in the gym will help to strengthen the quads and take some of the strain off your knee joints.

In spite of my crappy knees, I plan to do Zumba and participate in sports until I’m old and gray. If you are like me, then you have to understand that a little extra care and preparation are involved, but if I can do it anyone can.

Opa! Opa!

[Anita Latte]

KASI!!! I'm so excited to see you posting! I think it is so difficult to establish an exercise schedule with something like a new job...I totally relate because of our move. I'm so glad that your job is going well. I hope that your knee and ankle are okay. Is Annie still teaching?

Ferguson...we are going hiking tomorrow morning! Do you have a nice place to go?

Margaret...I have a routine to "I Need to Know"...I use it as a pre-stretch, cool down kind of song. It's a great cha cha...kind of sexy...I like it a lot. When I choreographed mine, I borrowed a lot from this routine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdnOYIA7Ivk

But I changed it a bit, because all the turns...ugh...I felt dizzy...LOL!

I might know the Opa Opa song...I'll have to see if it is what I think it could be.

Meanwhile...my lazy kitchen attitude has taken it's toll...when I was doing so much Zumba...I didn't have to be quite as careful with my food intake...but now that I am struggling in the activity department...it is more important than ever to get the food situation under control.

It used to be that I was eating a big variety of fresh, raw veggies with lunch. DH eats his every work day...and I was doing good to cut myself a portion when I would cut him a portion...but lately...yeah...haven't been doing that. For one...DH has been making his own lunch (like he did for 9 weeks while I was still in Texas) and I haven't mentioned to him that he should cut me some too...two...if I have been the one fixing his lunch...it's been a hurried affair at o'dark thirty in the morning, trying to get it together while he showers because we didn't do it the night before...being pressed for time...I just hurry through his and say to myself that I'll do my own later.

Yeah, right.

I actually did cut myself some veggies ONCE since we've moved into this new home...and I have to say...I was chewing...and chewing...and chewing...and half-way through the plate...I was like...O. M. G....am I done YET?!? Because that is a serious workout on the jaw to gnaw your way through a whole mess of raw veggies.

And man oh man...was it ever filling...

SO. I spent the better part of today organizing and thoroughly cleaning the kitchen. What had appeared to be a clean kitchen when we moved in...soon proved itself to NOT be...and so it hasn't been settled...

The pantry was a major issue because the wire style shelving wasn't stable...the wall anchors on several shelves were broken...so that was my project for Thursday and Friday. That done...I was able to move the non-daily items and majority of small appliances from the kitchen into that pantry, which is HUGE...a walk-in style with U-shaped shelves...seriously...it's as big as a typical laundry room. Then I reorganized the different areas of this small kitchen...including the hard working area under the sink...and I cleaned like MAD.

I am very happy to report that the vast majority of the kitchen is clean and organized. I did empty the lost leftovers from the fridge...but I have yet to really tackle the fridge...get my systems into place there...but that is somewhat part and parcel with grocery shopping...which is HIGH on the to do list tomorrow. Over and over again, they say, you can't out train a bad diet. I know this. It's even worse when you are struggling to get your activity in...so managing my food has hit a major priority.

I have two issues that I am dealing with that I know are diet related.

The first is how dehydrated I am...I am SO dehydrated...I can hardly stand myself!! It is still humid in GA...but not nearly as humid as Houston...and I am SO DRY...I know that water intake has always been rough...but I think the lack of exercise schedule has somehow made it harder for me to remember water...isn't that sad? To have to remember water? I have a couple water pitchers...I am going to use one to calculate how many pitchers a day I should be drinking...and us that pitcher to keep track of my intake. This is goal one. Water. Bob said so too. To also help me with the water, I will keep cut lemons and limes in the fridge. That was so awesome when I did that before!

The second is a personal problem for which I can say that I am SO HAPPY that I found Smooth Move tea so long ago. I don't know that I have ever mentioned this before...but Mom knows...and if ever you are having troubles moving your bowels...ahem...drink a cup of Smooth Move tea before bed. It works. It really does. It ain't called SMOOTH MOVE for nothin'. :rolleyes: Thank goodness too because I am drinking some right now...for the second time since we moved into this new home.

I think the lack of the veggies...the lack of water...the lack of regular exercise...and too much wheat has gotten to me.

So...in a related dietary move...I WILL be eating my raw veggie plate with lunch again. I'll deal with the wheat if the veggies, water, and exercise don't help me.

So obviously...I need to exercise as well. Duh.

I have found a dance studio near me. It isn't open in the mornings. They currently have classes from mid-afternoon to fairly late. I'm thinking about approaching them to talk about having a morning Zumba class. I have to be honest and say that I'm nervous...so I have to talk myself up and get more excited than nervous...figure out my approach...my time line...what I really want...etc. And then go for it.

Meanwhile...since I have this thought on the horizon...I need to plan my at home schedule for next week.

So tomorrow.

I'll be cleaning and organizing the fridge. Meal planning. Grocery shopping. Prepping for the week to come. Hiking with DH and DS in the morning. Planning my Zumba schedule for the week...including personal workouts, backing up my music library, renewing my liability insurance, planning songs/new songs time, and choreography/learning new routine time.

So I have 3 totally achievable goals for next week. Which begins today...Sunday...because it's after midnight :eek::

1. Water
2. Veggies
3. Zumba planning toward teaching

Margaret...I can't count the number of times that I have achieved a measure of success in the weight loss/get healthy department...only to MOVE...seriously...and then struggle all over again. It began in college. Leaving home after a great summer of working out. Totally understandable. After college...I actually ended up back home...lost a lot of the college weight...moved up to CO with DH and struggled. Have some progress finally in CO...moved to KS. Had some progress in KS...got pregnant...moved several times. Then in DFW...had some really good success...then moved to Houston. And became worse than ever. The last move within Houston area landed me in the attendance zone of Kelly's class...and we all know...I've now moved to GA.

And I'm struggling a bit.

BUT. This move will not have the same result as past moves. The past doesn't have to indicate the future. It does not have to be a pattern. I can...and WILL...overcome. I am having a hard time because the grocery stores are so different...the food offered is so different...my routine is all messed up...but I can adapt. Mom actually found out about a place from people that used to live in Atlanta...it looks totally awesome...and reminds me a the most fabulous grocery store in Texas called "Central Market"...the Atlanta one is called Buford Highway Farmers Market. It's about an hour away...but it just might be worth it...especially since I have to restock just about EVERYTHING. Not tomorrow though...that would be too much.

I'll share my plans tomorrow. It'll help me solidify what they are.

[kasi1979]

Thanks for the warm Welcome back :)

The wedding was lovely, lots of people, lots of music, the last left the party around 4 am today...

Pam,
we are cruising on Costa Mediterranea, leaving Savona, Itlay on november 5th and arriving in Miami on november 20th (4 stops in the caribbean before reaching Florida).
We are than planning to do some shopping and leave for Germany in the afternoon of november 23rd.
Its a pitty that I´ll miss you by a few days, again.

I´m heading to the roof terrace to enjoy some late summer sun and I´ll try to do some sports tomorrow.
I´ll report back on how that is going.
I´ll definitely try to make it to Annie´s sometime this week.

On a positive side, even though I dropped out of my workout schedule, I managed not to gain any more weight, that´s almost a win in my oppinion.

Enjoy your Sunday, wherever you are.

[delacruz]

Wow, things are hopping here!

Anita, I know just where you're coming from (although my backslides usually get me WAY deeper in the hole than where you are before I see my backside and have to get back on track!;))

Just the fact that you've recognized it now and already have your plan in place, I have no doubt that you'll come out ahead sooner than later.

Myself, I thought I was staying on track pretty well (I've been a size 10 for a couple of years after nipping it in the bud when I started moving from a 14 to a 14W), but was just disappointed to go shopping needing some pants to find that I was back up a size. However, I have to say that it really depended on the cut - I ended up in a pair of size 10s that were even a bit loose in the waist.

We leave for our next cruise in exactly 4 weeks, and my dress for the first formal night is a size 10 dress that I first bought 20 years ago and 15 lbs lighter (I know that's OLD, but I love it!) To me it's perfect for Samba's Grill where we plan to dine the first formal night - very tropical but dressy. I can actually fit into it and BREATHE! But I would really like to lose at least a few lbs before then to know I'll be comfortable after a feast!

The other dress is the maxi dress that I 'met' Anita in on the Fashion Boards when I bought it the same week she posted herself in it. It's an 8, and still fits perfectly...and it's SO comfortable.

I'm really enjoying the discussion here - the explanation and links of the Zumba moves, the info about water (I KNOW that's always been the key to my being successful in weight loss and just feeling better in general), everyone's journeys and trials and tribulations!

[Member123]

Anita, did you see the rough video on youtube of the Buford Highway Farmers Market? It seems like one of those places you could totally get lost in; it looks like the food equivalent of IKEA!

Anyway.

Bob Harper and his Skinny Rules.

Thought I would share a little more. There is NOTHING NEW here! But, it bears repeating and remembering.

Rule 2. Don't Drink Your Calories

Now, it's obvious that we would automatically think of some favorite things: like beer, wine... well, any alcohol... but.. it's more than that! Don't drink orange juice; eat an orange. Don't drink apple juice; eat an apple; Don't drink grape juice; eat grapes. Added to this list: energy replacement drinks, soda, smoothies that you don't make yourself and don't control.

Rule 3. Eat Protein at Every Meal. Or. Stay. Hungry. and. Grouchy.

How much protein? Take your weight and divide by 2 and that's the number of grams of protein you should be eating every day. Of course, the recommended protein source is... fish. Followed by eggs, poultry, pork, beef, cheese, tofu.

Rule 4. Slash your intake of Refined Flours and Grains.

Be aware of marketing in labels! Just because it says "low in fat," or "all natural," or "whole" or "heart healthy" doesn't mean much. You should always read the ingredients label... not the marketing verbiage on the front of the container.

Here's a personal story. My DH went to the store and came home with ketchup. He's the one who eats ketchup. He knows enough to read labels to make sure that they don't contain soy, but he usually doesn't read labels for food items that I don't eat. So, here's the ingredients list of the ketchup that I buy for him: Organic tomato concentrate (water, organic tomato paste), organic sugar, organic vinegar, salt, organic onion powder, organic spices. He brought home a different ketchup that had the words "Low Salt" on the front because he's a "nut" about sodium content (sometimes he goes over the deep end). Anyway, I couldn't believe that this bottle was filled with chemicals that I couldn't pronounce because there was an asterisk on the Low Salt description and the print on the back of the bottle explained the asterisk to be a salt substitute that uses potassium for flavoring and a warning to watch your potassium levels! And a prominent ingredient on the label was.... high fructose corn syrup!... so the caveat here is to be careful and use your reading glasses (if you have to) at the grocery store!

Bottom line: the ingredient label should have the words "whole grain" as part of the description of the flour that is being used.

Rule 5. Eat 30 to 50 Grams of Fiber a Day.

Fiber from food, not from supplements.

The Bob Harper list: apples, blueberries, peaches, pears, raspberries, strawberries, acorn squash, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, spinach, zucchini, black-eyed peas, Ezekiel bread, garbanzo beans, kidney beans, lima beans, oatmeal, whole-grain pasta.

OK. There's only 15 more Rules! That's it! :D

Enough for today. Will put up a bit more information before book needs to be returned to the library. Like I said, nothing new... but worth remembering

[Anita Latte]

I did NOT see the Youtube video but I may have to look that up. I'm thinking that it sounds like a field trip kind of store. Like spend time going through my recipe books...gathering a list of hard to find ingredients...maybe even setting aside some grocery budget money each week to save up for the big FIELD TRIP to this grocery store! I know we talked about it on the phone...but I'm seriously thinking about getting geared up for a major cooking and freezing marathon toward the end of October/the beginning of November...soups, broths, anything and everything that I can stock my freezer with to make my life easier during the holidays.

You betcha.

Because life during the holidays can be hectic.

And I am also loving all this chatter...it's good stuff.

Here's our meal plan.

DH and I eat oatmeal for breakfast. He likes frozen blueberries (they totally melt in the hot oatmeal and they don't go bad), sliced almonds, and hemp milk. I like banana, sliced almonds, and hemp milk. We both take the sliced almonds and kind of crunch them in our hands to break them up a bit more.

Mid-morning snack is based on our experience with Fat Flush. Hard-boiled eggs and fruit. If everyone will recall...I've talked about how drinking lemon water first thing in the morning (the juice of one-half a lemon in hot water) and eating two eggs a day increased fat loss in people who made no other changes in their diet. So we do this.

I like soups and chilis for lunch...so I'm making my favorite black bean chili (http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vegetarian-forum/1151924-moosewood-restaurant-low-fat-favorites.html)...which I top with fresh cilantro and avocado. DH will flip flop between whatever I make and his typical leftover grilled chicken and hot veggie. We both will have a plethora of cut, fresh veggies to gnaw on.

Afternoon fruit. Afternoon nuts.

Dinner will be a fabulous entree salad. I really love salads, so this is not a hardship for me. Grilled chicken. Kalamata olives. Marinaded artichokes. Feta Cheese. Cucumbers. Grape tomatoes. Red or green onions. SO YUMMY. OR! Tomatoes. Cucumbers. Cilantro. Avocado. Grilled sweet peppers. YUM!!

I love this one dressing from Rick Bayless. It's a Lime Cilantro dressing (http://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/view?recipeID=209). I just bought some salad dressing bottles (http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-809-Salad-Dressing-Maker/dp/B000E3DTGA) from Target for $3.99. My plan is to make my own dressings and marinades. I bought 4 of them.

Dessert will be homemade smoothies with greek yogurt, whey protein, frozen berry mix, etc.

This is an easy week of food. You just have to have leftover chicken available. And lots of veggies.

The fridge is totally clean. The shopping has been done. There is already a selection of leftover chicken. Life is good. I'm happy with the plan.

FYI...DS eats eggs and ham and fruit for breakfast. He eats chicken tacos for lunch with grapes or carrots. After school snack of yogurt or cottage cheese with fruit/veggies and nuts. His dinner is chicken with veggie sides. Smoothie for dessert.

He is sharing in the reduced side dishes at dinner for more veggie eating. Mom will share but this is another Bob rule...ya'll will see later.

I did a lot of research regarding the storage of fruit and veggies. I'll see how my current set up goes and share later. I generally do well with my produce and don't have to throw too much away...but it's been a while since I stocked up like I currently am though.

[Member123]

Hey, there, Anita: Since you've already refreshed your memory on the storage of fruits and veggies, would love to be reminded as well.

So, on with Bob Harper wisdoms.

Rule 6. Eat Apples and Berries Every Single Day. Every. Single. Day!

This bears some explanation. So, briefly: apples and berries are rich in a class of natural molecules called phytochemicals. In the human body, these are usually involved in some stage of metabolism. The most important phytochemicals, for us, are anthocyanins, usually concentrated in the skin of colorful fruits and vegetables.

So, Bob cites some research and studies (let me know if you're interested enough to want to hear the research behind this rule).

Rule 7. NO CARBS AFTER LUNCH

The carbs that Bob is targeting are those that are based on sugar. For some reason, he (like so many people) doesn't break down simple vs complex carbs! Anyway, it's all about protein and fiber in the afternoon.

Here's why: Sugar cues the pancreas to make insulin, which in turn triggers appetite. The later in the day that you consume sugar, the more likely it is that you will get food cravings late at night. Late-night cravings are not a good thing!

Two guiding principles:
Snack on fiber, protein, vegetables, and fresh fruits (not dried fruits).
Eat lean and green at night.

Rule 8. Learn to Read Food Labels so You Know What You are Eating

Rule 9. Stop Guessing About Portion Size and Get It Right - For Good

Rule 10. No More Added Sweeteners, Including Artificial Ones

Rule 11. Get Rid of Those White Potatoes

Bottom line: don't abuse your potato privileges! LOL.

Rule 12. Make One Day A Week Meatless

Rule 13. Get Rid of Fast Foods and Fried Foods

Rule 14. Eat A Real Breakfast

Rule 15. Make Your Own Food and Eat At Least 10 Meals a Week at Home

Rule 16. Banish High-Salt Foods

Rule 17. Eat Your Vegetables - Just Do It

Rule 18. Go to Bed Hungry

Rule 19. Sleep Right

Rule 20. Plan One Splurge Meal a Week

Note: this is not a splurge DAY. The best splurge meals are breakfast or lunch. You DON'T get to go to a fast food place! Write down the calorie count before you eat. This is the time to have your dessert. This is the time to find out: do you want truly forbidden foods or bigger portions? The answer will tell you a lot about what you want when you feel deprived. Remember, this splurge meal is an ingredient in your healthy lifestyle eating pattern.

Well, that's it.

I thought that I would post this only because it was easy to do and Bob just stated some very basic precepts to a Skinny Eating Lifestyle. We talk a lot on here about how we are engaged in living a healthy lifestyle as opposed to simply being on a diet or exercising to achieve a specific goal and then moving forward with our REAL life. We want the healthy lifestyle TO BE our REAL LIFE.

Bob says that one of the true exercise myths is that you can exercise and the weight will come off. He said that, at first, he thought that he could exercise anyone to the point of overcoming their diet. He has since adjusted his thinking because there just isn't any way that exercise can overcome caloric overload. In his words: That four-mile walk you take every morning? It burns about 350 calories - not even a small bag of fries at McDonald's. That hour of Pilates or yoga? Ditto - not even equal to a large chai latte at Starbucks.

So, the book is going back to the library in 4 days. I'll keep it until it has to be returned; I can't renew it because there's a significant waiting list for this book! It seems that people are still trying to find the "magic" way to handle weight issues. I wanted to read the book because I wanted to see what Bob Harper would say! I was incredibly surprised that he focused so much more on diet as a component of weight loss than exercise.

Anyway, if anyone has questions about any of the rules... wants to have more of an explanation for them... or wants any examples of what he means... please ask fairly quickly so I can reference the book for you.

[fergusonvt]

Hey, there, Anita: Since you've already refreshed your memory on the storage of fruits and veggies, would love to be reminded as well.

So, on with Bob Harper wisdoms.

Rule 6. Eat Apples and Berries Every Single Day. Every. Single. Day!

This bears some explanation. So, briefly: apples and berries are rich in a class of natural molecules called phytochemicals. In the human body, these are usually involved in some stage of metabolism. The most important phytochemicals, for us, are anthocyanins, usually concentrated in the skin of colorful fruits and vegetables.

So, Bob cites some research and studies (let me know if you're interested enough to want to hear the research behind this rule).

Rule 7. NO CARBS AFTER LUNCH

The carbs that Bob is targeting are those that are based on sugar. For some reason, he (like so many people) doesn't break down simple vs complex carbs! Anyway, it's all about protein and fiber in the afternoon.

Here's why: Sugar cues the pancreas to make insulin, which in turn triggers appetite. The later in the day that you consume sugar, the more likely it is that you will get food cravings late at night. Late-night cravings are not a good thing!

Two guiding principles:
Snack on fiber, protein, vegetables, and fresh fruits (not dried fruits).
Eat lean and green at night.

Rule 8. Learn to Read Food Labels so You Know What You are Eating

Rule 9. Stop Guessing About Portion Size and Get It Right - For Good

Rule 10. No More Added Sweeteners, Including Artificial Ones

Rule 11. Get Rid of Those White Potatoes

Bottom line: don't abuse your potato privileges! LOL.

Rule 12. Make One Day A Week Meatless

Rule 13. Get Rid of Fast Foods and Fried Foods

Rule 14. Eat A Real Breakfast

Rule 15. Make Your Own Food and Eat At Least 10 Meals a Week at Home

Rule 16. Banish High-Salt Foods

Rule 17. Eat Your Vegetables - Just Do It

Rule 18. Go to Bed Hungry

Rule 19. Sleep Right

Rule 20. Plan One Splurge Meal a Week

Note: this is not a splurge DAY. The best splurge meals are breakfast or lunch. You DON'T get to go to a fast food place! Write down the calorie count before you eat. This is the time to have your dessert. This is the time to find out: do you want truly forbidden foods or bigger portions? The answer will tell you a lot about what you want when you feel deprived. Remember, this splurge meal is an ingredient in your healthy lifestyle eating pattern.

Well, that's it.

I thought that I would post this only because it was easy to do and Bob just stated some very basic precepts to a Skinny Eating Lifestyle. We talk a lot on here about how we are engaged in living a healthy lifestyle as opposed to simply being on a diet or exercising to achieve a specific goal and then moving forward with our REAL life. We want the healthy lifestyle TO BE our REAL LIFE.

Bob says that one of the true exercise myths is that you can exercise and the weight will come off. He said that, at first, he thought that he could exercise anyone to the point of overcoming their diet. He has since adjusted his thinking because there just isn't any way that exercise can overcome caloric overload. In his words: That four-mile walk you take every morning? It burns about 350 calories - not even a small bag of fries at McDonald's. That hour of Pilates or yoga? Ditto - not even equal to a large chai latte at Starbucks.

So, the book is going back to the library in 4 days. I'll keep it until it has to be returned; I can't renew it because there's a significant waiting list for this book! It seems that people are still trying to find the "magic" way to handle weight issues. I wanted to read the book because I wanted to see what Bob Harper would say! I was incredibly surprised that he focused so much more on diet as a component of weight loss than exercise.

Anyway, if anyone has questions about any of the rules... wants to have more of an explanation for them... or wants any examples of what he means... please ask fairly quickly so I can reference the book for you.


I'd be interested in knowing what he means by sleeping right. As someone experiencing nightly hot flashes I'd like to just sleep, even wrong :)

[Member123]

Cardiovascular Improvement.

So, I wanted to know!

I've been doing Zumba now for almost 2 years. And, I'm a data gatherer. Researcher, etc.

So, I have absolutely a LOT of data on my Zumba workouts: length of time (duration), peak heart rate (intensity), average heart rate (endurance), instructor, date (frequency), calorie burn.

I thought that I would compare LAST year's month to THIS year's month and see what kind of improvement I could see.

ZERO.

Zero Improvement!

If I were British, I would have been gobsmacked.

On August 30, 2012:
Young's class. 157 average heart rate, 173 peak heart rate, 888 calorie burn.

On August 29, 2011:
Young's class. 154 average heart rate, 172 peak heart rate, 868 calorie burn.

What?!? :(

So, I went on a mad research to gather information on how to measure cardio performance. And this is what I discovered. You can't measure your improvement in cardio sessions by either the max heart rate or the average heart rate achieved. There are way too many variables; i.e., the quality of sleep the night before, the quality of diet the day before, the ability to oxygenate due to the humidity and quality of air at the time of exercise, the body's health as in whether it is fighting allergies or an infection of any kind...

There are 3 things that determine an improvement in cardio health. They are ALL blood related!

1. Your cholesterol levels. If your Good Cholestoreal readings get higher and bad readings get lower.
2. Your blood pressure. If you've improved any high blood pressure readings.
3. Your blood sugar levels.

I did not know this.

Doesn't matter. I'll still collect the data... because that's what I DO!... but, it's now just a matter of seeing the consistency. And it's really, really surprising how consistent it is.

I had the best birthday celebration last year. (milestone birthday). Anyway, we took the Celebrity Solstice from Ft Lauderdale to Barcelona, so I got to be in Barcelona for my birthday! Yeah! Then, we boarded the Voyager of the Seas and went from Barcelona to Venice. So I got to see Venice again! Yeah! This was a long trip.

I prepared for the trip by being really diligent with my Zumba classes. In fact, there were a few days that I went to TWO classes on the SAME day! :eek: Yeah, I was a little nuts.

My last class before we took off for our vacation was on April 26, 2011.

Class was 55 minutes. Avg HR: 150; calories burned: 773

The next class that I attended was on May 28, 2011.

Class was 55 minutes. Avg HR: 161; calories burned: 857

I was operating with an older HR monitor, so I didn't have the data for the max HR. But, I can tell from the average HR and the calorie burn, that I had to have hit a higher max HR just because of the math. That layoff period of 30+ days did have an effect, for sure.

I won't bore you with a bunch of data. To sum up: I went to class on May 28th (a Saturday). My schedule was then: the next Tuesday, followed by Thursday, Saturday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday....

and that's when the stats returned to "normal." Avg HR: 153, class duration: 50 minutes, calories burned: 715.

So, it only took 6 class sessions to reachieve the level of effort before the layoff. I found this to be kind of interesting. I'm mainly showing Anita this information because I think it shows how quickly we can recover from a break in our routines.... if we GET BACK to IT... :D

This data has some difficulty, of course, in being thoroughly analyzed. I mean... I know the max HR that I hit, but I don't know how many times I hit that rate or how long my heart stayed at that rate... I know the average HR, but I don't know if it's lower because I started at a lower heart rate, had a longer warm up routine, had a longer cool down song, etc. So, this data is anything that could be used "scientifically," and I don't put an incredible amount of thought into looking at it. But, over the course of many, many Zumba classes, I know that I can see a pattern.

And. The Pattern. Is. Good! I know that I'm having to really increase my body's effort during class to maintain that average HR. I used to be able to get a fairly significant HR... just by showing up! Now, I have to really engage my arms, etc. in order to achieve the same level of intensity as evidenced by the average HR data. Anyway, that's just me.

[Member123]

I'd be interested in knowing what he means by sleeping right. As someone experiencing nightly hot flashes I'd like to just sleep, even wrong :)

:D:D:D

I so hear you!

OK. Bob says that as we age our body stops making the hormones required for sound sleep. He also states that no one knows exactly how to make someone sleep better, but there are some general rules to follow.

Avoid alcohol after eight. You'd think it would make you sleep better, but alcohol is just another form of sugar, and sugar destablilizes the low metabolic state needed to sustain sleep.

Avoid coffee, tea, and other stimulants after 3:00pm.

If you must eat, eat vegetables and high-fiber fruits. Also chamomile or valerian root tea.

Use aromatic soaps in your bath water. Put a dab of lavender oil on each temple and below your nose.

Unplug your bedroom.

Prepare your body for sleep: learn to meditate and/or do simple, restful yoga poses.

That's what Bob says. He's a Man. Statement. of. Obvious. Fact.

From what I've read about hot flashes, the only tips that I remember are:
dress in lightweight sleepwear. Try sleepwear out of a moisture wicking fabric. Avoid heavy blankets. Consider using a room fan to cool the air and increase its circulation. Reduce stress and try relaxation techniques. These are the notes that I took from a book specifically about sleep problems.

I know. It's not much help.

There was also a recommendation for introducing soy into your diet. I have to avoid soy because of thyroid issues, but I'm just passing this along because it was recommended as a phytoestrogen compound which is supposed to help with menopausal symptoms. Dust and bother. I sure wish that there was something more helpful out there!

[fergusonvt]

Thanks. Most of that stuff I already knew but I was hoping he'd have some magical way to induce sleep. My husband is always complaining that I won't open up the registers in the bedroom because I like it cold, even in the winter. We have a nice down comforter that I won't let him put on the bed because having several thinner layers works better for me because I can push one down or remove if needed. :D

[lindaler]

I would like to know more about the splurge meal and what it reveals about our diet. I think if I went to the buffet tomorrow and ate what ever I wanted it would be mac and cheese and sourcream on my mexican food. I don't even crave the sweets until after 8 so lunch would find me with alfrado sauces and cream of brocilli soups and things like that.

[Member123]

I would like to know more about the splurge meal and what it reveals about our diet. I think if I went to the buffet tomorrow and ate what ever I wanted it would be mac and cheese and sourcream on my mexican food. I don't even crave the sweets until after 8 so lunch would find me with alfrado sauces and cream of brocilli soups and things like that.

Hi, Linda. How's the knee?

Basically, it's a psychological profile. A splurge meal is helpful for those who have episodic emotional bingeing. Bob states that when you plan something, you are in control. And when you're in control of your splurge, you don't later think that you've failed. And that puts an end to the old binge-shame-diet-binge cycle.

[danashay30]

[quote=Anita Latte;27378333]I'm turning 40 in March 2012. My mom found an outrageous deal on a Spring Break cruise in March 2012, so we booked a big family vacation for my parents, my husband, my son and myself which will be in honor of my big milestone.

It's also the goal for life change including major weightloss.

I started taking Zumba classes the week of Sept 12. I'm up to 3 Zumba classes a week and 2 Pilates classes.

I LOVE Zumba. I know it has a lot to do with my instructor, who I also love. I've had great success so far losing 4 inches around both my hips and bust and 1 inch each around each thigh. I'm totally pumped and more motivated than ever to continue getting healthy.

Anyone else out there a Zumba fan? Or doing Pilates? I thought we could exchange stories, songs, encouragement...

WARNING...I love to talk...A LOT...and I will also be using this thread as a kind of record of some other changes I have going on around the house...including, but certainly not limited to, cooking healthy homemade meals and breaking the restaurant/eating out cycle.
Hey there, Yeah I LOVE Zumba. I lost about 85lbs doing zumba, spin, bootcamp and other things. I started Feb 22nd 2011. I agree I love my instructor so much so that she started at Golds then went to LA Fit to a friends place and now her very own studio and Ive followed her every step of the way. My motivation on the 1st day was a cruise I was taking and my motivation now is to see how much I can lose by this next cruise in April.

[danashay30]

I'm turning 40 in March 2012. My mom found an outrageous deal on a Spring Break cruise in March 2012, so we booked a big family vacation for my parents, my husband, my son and myself which will be in honor of my big milestone.

It's also the goal for life change including major weightloss.

I started taking Zumba classes the week of Sept 12. I'm up to 3 Zumba classes a week and 2 Pilates classes.

I LOVE Zumba. I know it has a lot to do with my instructor, who I also love. I've had great success so far losing 4 inches around both my hips and bust and 1 inch each around each thigh. I'm totally pumped and more motivated than ever to continue getting healthy.

Anyone else out there a Zumba fan? Or doing Pilates? I thought we could exchange stories, songs, encouragement...

WARNING...I love to talk...A LOT...and I will also be using this thread as a kind of record of some other changes I have going on around the house...including, but certainly not limited to, cooking healthy homemade meals and breaking the restaurant/eating out cycle.

I hope anyone interested in these topics will join me!

Hey there, Yeah I LOVE Zumba. I lost about 85lbs doing zumba, spin, bootcamp and other things. I started Feb 22nd 2011. I agree I love my instructor so much so that she started at Golds then went to LA Fit to a friends place and now her very own studio and Ive followed her every step of the way. My motivation on the 1st day was a cruise I was taking and my motivation now is to see how much I can lose by this next cruise in April.

[danashay30]

Just joined a gym! I have 45-50 lbs to loose :( I have only been to one class "spin" - it was so hard I could not keep up at all. The Zumba class is not called Zumba but instead Latin Heat. My friend told me it was the same as Zumba so starting next week I am going to try one of those classes :) Congrats on your weight loss this far, I will be cruising in March also :D
OMG I love spin class. I sweat more than in any other class however according to my HRM I dont lose that many more calories. Love the challenge though

[Anita Latte]

Hey, there, Anita: Since you've already refreshed your memory on the storage of fruits and veggies, would love to be reminded as well.

Storing produce...

First...it is important to separate ethylene producing fruits from other produce that is affected by the ethylene. For instance...ethylene will make leafy veggies and eggplants have russet spotting and turn cucumbers and brocolli yellow. Based upon my research, I have dedicated the fruit drawer of my fridge to ethylene producing fruits, including:

Apples
Apricots
Cantelope
Mangos
Necterines
Papaya
Peaches
Pears
Plums

My research said that berries and lemons/limes were not necessarily affected by ethylene. I have my lemons and limes in separate, sealed gallon-sized ZipLoc bags. Supposedly, storing these particular citrus fruits in these bags helps them last longer. I know, Mom, that you've had good success with these. In past tries, I have not...HOWEVER...I read others that had the same issues I did...and to overcome my issues...I needed to clean the lemons and limes before storing to remove any potential mold spores present AND let the lemons/limes reach fridge temperature before sealing them in the bags. I was having an issue with condensation in my bags? The conclusion was that the fruit was too warm to be sealed and that's why there was condensation...and likely mold spores already present and the wet, sealed bag was a perfect growing condition for the mold.

For berries...we are entering the phase of the year where they just aren't worth buying...they are already so moldy in the stores...we are going frozen with berries now and reduced to smoothie berries.

These ethylene producing fruits like cold and moist conditions...so I made a small towel wet, wrung it out as much as possible, and lined the drawer with the towel, then laid a scrap of non-skid under-rug mat over the towel (to allow pockets of air under the fruit; it's what I had), removed the fruit from the plastic bags and laid them out in the drawer.

My second produce drawer in my fridge is a veggie or meats drawer. It is the smaller one on the bottom with the slant in the drawer...I've designated it for a meat drawer. It is where all the leftover chicken is...cheese...lunchmeat...etc.

I have another shallow drawer that is a part of another shelf in the fridge. Usually, this is the drawer for lunchmeat? I have designated this drawer for certain veggies. It is the perfect drawer for bagged salad (I buy the bags of organic Romaine hearts), herbs (I wrap my cilantro in a damp towel), carrots, celery...etc.

I have specialty storage containers that I bought years ago now...I INVESTED in these containers...they weren't super expensive, but not necessarily cheap:

http://freshvac.com/products/professional.php

They work. They really do. I have 3 sizes...2 large squares (I don't see this size now), 2 taller, medium rectangles, 2 shorter, medium rectangles. These are designated to live all in the shelves of my fridge with produce. I have chicken in the 2 taller, mediums. The 2 shorter have two different grapes. One large square has cut honeydew...the other has peppers and cucumbers, especially partially cut ones that have been used to prepare our cut veggies.

I have other tubs in my fridge to help with organization. These are just typical clear tubs that fit well on my shelves, not built in drawers. One tub has cauliflower, brocolli, and uncut peppers. I have cut up cauliflower and brocolli in the past and stored them in the freshvacs...it works...BUT...it smells...there is something about those particular veggies that smell less than lovely when stored cut.

What I like about my current organization in the fridge is that all my produce can breathe...it isn't shoved so tightly into the drawers...and it is in plain sight. And it looks pretty. There's something about easily seeing bright shiny apples, peaches...makes you want one...I mean really...fruit and vegetables are bright and colorful and generally attractive things to look at...when you can see them...it makes you want them.