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  1. Also from WHO: "About one-quarter of the world's population has a TB infection, which means people have been infected by TB bacteria but are not (yet) ill with the disease and cannot transmit it. People infected with TB bacteria have a 5–15% lifetime risk of falling ill with TB." https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
  2. A total of 1.4 million people died from TB in 2019 (including 208 000 people with HIV). Worldwide, TB is one of the top 10 causes of death and the leading cause from a single infectious agent (above HIV/AIDS). https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
  3. Up until this time there has never been a vaccine developed for any coronavirus such as SARs and the common cold. All vaccines have some risk but we really do not know what the long-term effects of the Covid vaccine will be, particularly a new type of vaccine that affects RNA. The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Trust Fund has paid out over 4 billion dollars since the 80's. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/about/index.html
  4. IMO, this is becoming a very slippery slope. Tuberculosis kills more people annually than Covid yet a TB test or X-ray is not a prerequisite to fly or cruise. Influenza mortality rate in children is much higher than Covid so, should annual flu shots be mandatory too? Will citizens have to "show their papers" to grocery shop, go to the gym, go on a bus, etc.? Positive Covid case numbers are also very misleading. If you take the time to actually look at the graphs of official data in various states (Google: Covid dashboard state of ....), you will often find that as the rate of positive cases ha
  5. It was archived. Here is another link to the article: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/covid-vaccine-cdc-should-warn-people-the-side-effects-from-shots-wont-be-walk-in-the-park-.html
  6. I am concerned about the vaccine being rushed through and vaccine companies being exempt from liablity per laws passed in decades ago. Symptoms in trial participants sound worse than the mostly mild or no symptoms most people get when testing positive plus a 99.95% survival rate. Article from CNBC: "Public health officials and drugmakers need to warn people that coronavirus vaccine shots may have some rough side effects so they know what to expect and aren’t scared away from getting the second dose......Participants in Moderna and Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine trials told CNBC in Septembe
  7. https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5672/ Sounds like big brother may soon be tracking you on the cruise ship
  8. While I am not sure if it is "official" policy yet, Celebrity's parent company RCI hired a panel of experts that put forth those guidelines that were submitted to the CDC. https://www.celebritycruises.com/health-and-safety
  9. We cancelled our cruise due to manadatory masks and restrictions for getting off the ship and feel that having only ship sponsored excursions seems like a false sense of security. I would think the very same buses and vans will be used for other cruise lines' excursions and the drivers and tour guides will have had contact with other people in the community. Even if it is a ship sponsored excursion there will still be many contact surfaces on beach lounge chairs, bathroom facilities, restaurant chairs, etc. where germs could be lingering. Also, is the cruise line eliminating their revenue sour
  10. After looking at this we plan to cancel our cruise. I am mostly concerned about being quarantined if a waiter, room steward, trivia partner, etc. tested positive during the cruise but am also choosing not to sail due to the mask requirement. For me personally it would be a depressing vacation to see everyone constantly in masks and, also, to not be able to expore ports on our own. However, I am sure others won't mind the restrictions and will just be glad to cruise.
  11. This will be my last post here on this issue. My reason for posting this info on the vaccine thread is that a vaccine that may or may not be safe (using never before used gene therapy) is not necessary if there are effective, safe therapeutics. One of the reasons that there has been resistance to HCQ is that the vaccine companies cannot fast track a vaccine through emergency use authorization (EAU) if there is an alternative therapeutic. Be careful and consider who profits from a vaccine rather than low-cost therapeutics.
  12. If you click on the title links for each study from 2003 and beyond at c19study.com and click on "source" it takes you to the individual studies. I don't know why you say you can't access them. As I said, the studies show more effectiveness pre-hospital athough I just posted an Italian study that indicated reduced mortality for hospitalized patients using HCQ. RCTs and clinical trials take a lot of time so retrospective and observational studies can be useful in the meantime to help prevent thousands of unnecessary deaths. BTW, the NIH knew as far back as 2005 per this Journal of Virology arti
  13. European Journal of Internal Medicine- August 25, 2020 This was a retrospective observational study: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-6205(20)30335-6/fulltext Conclusion: "HCQ use was associated with a 30% lower risk of death in COVID-19 hospitalized patients.....our data do not discourage the use of HCQ in inpatients with COVID-19."
  14. If you are only looking at studies from the spring you are very misinformed on the issue. Clearly you haven't read the dozens of further studies that have come out over the summer regarding Covid therapeutics which are all are linked at: c19study.com and include a number of meta-analyses and some randomized controlled-trials. Are you aware that 2 of the major, early negative highly reported studies in the Lancet and NEJM were later retracted? What alternative treatment are you proposing as a pre-hospital intervention other than waiting for a vaccine that may or may not work and may or not be f
  15. Why would you believe wikipedia and snopes rather than looking at the actual scientific research studies? This article just came out in the American Journal of Medicine and further proves my point: Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934320306732
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