ORV

It got less customer flack than the "X The Rules" campaign did, so it sounded like a good replacement.

Here's my take,

1, they're way too short, do at least 2 of them together

2, much more of a party crowd than you usually see on Celebrity.

Guess you could say I am playing with semantics but, I am reading what is written and following the words that are in their printed material. If the wording that O printed were in a Contract, I would be 100% correct and if O wanted to limit what dress is "required", they would word it the following manner:

 

"For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is required. Casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts or athletic shoes shall not be worn at dinner."

 

And, they should define what casual jeans are. Saying tennis shoes is way to vague as well as am sure they don't want running shoes, basketball shoes, etc.

 

Writing in the vague manner they did leaves people wondering what is approved and what is not. If we can't determine what O wants, it is ambiguous and buy most any type of law, ambiguity is construed against the writer which is O and we the customers are not bound by ambiguous statements.

 

Certainly we can agree to disagree but, if I choose to wear any type of jeans or shorts in the main dining room, I would be totally within my rights based on how it is written although I do admit that I would not feel very comfortable and in actuality, would follow their recommendations but, not be bound by them.

LOL, Perhaps they should have the same writer that worded the Smoking Policy write the dress code.

Can't edit the post any more but, as you stated I did mis-state the should part, it is not there and sorry I screwed up that portion. However, the words requested and suggested are used and those two words are sufficient to make my point that the dress code is a suggestion and you are requested to not wear certain items. You are not required to dress in elegant casual resort wear nor are the items in the second sentence required no no's not to wear.

 

Therefore, anyone can wear anything including casual jeans and while most people will not take advantage of what is written, the words as written are not rules that have to be followed, they are only suggestions and requests which are certainly not binding on anyone.

 

Notwithstanding my error is thinking a word was there that wasn't, the two words I quoted are certainly NOT definitive nor requirements. People may feel out of place wearing other than the suggested dress code and others may not appreciate people not following the suggestions but, they are suggestions as written and people have every right not to follow the suggestions and continue wearing what they choose.

Ok, now that I understand what you're saying I have to definitely disagree with you . But you're welcome to your opinion on the subject.

I'm saying nice designer jeans are included in Oceania's "Elegant Resort Casual" definition, and in no way is disrespecting the host's request. You on the other hand are saying wear whatever you want no matter what's requested of you, because of the way it's worded.

On the other hand you might just be playing devil's advocate playing with semantics.

We returned form a B2Bin SI on the 15th, one cruise under the old system and one under the new. Just checked our points on the website and they are up to date and correct. ~ Rick

Once you're Zenith does it really matter? I guess to keep track of getting to double Zenith, I did a little math today and if you do 4 10 night cruises a year in the top suites that earn 18 points a day, a new cruiser could be Zenith in about 4.25 years.

My kids were on the Constellation B2B2B from 12/9 -12/23. The points have posted for the middle segment but not the first segment. VERY STRANGE. Will wait a week or so and then call about it - especially if the last segment's points post and still not the first segment's.

 

This is why we save ALL our old seapass cards!

I'll bet that's a big file, no wait, more like a box. LOL.

"For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes not be worn at dinner."

 

 

Please read the above dress code again, you seem to be missing the first sentence where elegant casual resort where is "suggested" And the second sentence is a request and also uses the word "should" which is completely different from the word shall which is a requirement whole should leaves following what one should do being optional.

 

Thus three words in the dress code indicate that O would like you to dress in elegant casual resort wear and not wear casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes but, not require that dress thus any clothing including shorts are acceptable no matter how unappreciated they are. Really simple by reading the whole code. If O wanted to require a certain dress code, they would have so said. They cannot ask people to leave a venue or change what they are wearing based on what they wrote no matter how inappropriate some people think the people are dressing.

 

Really nothing to discuss, the rule is what it is and really not subject to any interpretation.

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are saying. Perhaps auto correct or something got the better of what you were trying to say. I didn't miss the elegant casual part, and really don't see the word should anywhere.

Could you go back and edit your statement?

As I have said many times before on this subject the dress code from Oceania is a REQUEST not a rule

 

You & I may not think of wearing casual jeans to dinner but those that like to "do it their way " may just take it as a suggestion & choose to wear casual jeans

After all they paid for the cruise & will do what they like regardless :D

 

YMMD

I do understand what you're saying, but that is another conversation. I agree that "request" is just a nice way of saying "please don't".

Let's try this again.

Would you agree then that any other type of jeans than "casual jeans" fulfill the dress code requirement? Or do you believe that all jeans would be classified as casual?

Lyn,

 

Of course, now I don't know which pillow is which ... I guess we'll have to ask for samples of each on our May '14 cruise and then decide if we want to buy!

 

Mura

The problem is there is no cross referencing of the pillows that they offer for sale on the website and the ones that you can try from the pillow menu in the suites. It would help.

I did find out I never want a Buckwheat pillow, ugh.

Actually, Orv, you've given misinformation there.

 

If Oceania requests that certain items of clothing not be worn in their Restaurants, it is inaccurate to say that those articles are "completely acceptable".

 

The mere fact that Oceania may choose not to embarrass an inappropriately dressed passenger further, by asking them to leave the Dining Room does not mitigate the faux pas.

No, I respectfully have to disagree in this case. While I appreciate all the good information and advice you give here I believe you're the misinformed party here. Things change, I suggest you read the new dress code.

Here's the pertinent part for you;

"For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes not be worn at dinner."

It should be obvious that by adding the word "casual" in front of jeans then any other type of jeans are acceptable. Otherwise why add it? What are those other types of jeans? Well I guess that's open to interpretation. That's my take, and why I posted that it's completely acceptable. I'm certainly open to any other explanation why they would have added the word casual instead of leaving it simply as jeans.

As I stated earlier, I wear dress slacks to dinner on Oceania, but I feel that ladies that are wearing colored, well cut jeans like those from Chicos and designer jeans that aren't all faded and full of holes more than fulfill the requirements of Oceania's dress code as they've worded it.

Once again the question is, Why did Oceania management change the wording from just "jeans" to "casual jeans"? Everything else in the conversation is just people's opinion. Whether one likes it or not is not important, except just to them.

Welcome! You will be comfortable so long as you don't wear jeans and tees in the MDR for dinner.

Good heavens I agree Lyn. The man asked a simple question so let us not start a 6 page thread on jean/denim dress code again.

As long as the old rules continue to be erroneously quoted someone needs to point out the new ones.

No need to start a long conversation about it, but as Host Andy & Host Laura mentioned in their hope for the new year post, corrections should be pointed out, without flames or attacks, which wasn't done.

In case you haven't read Host Laura's post here it is:

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/announcement.php?f=28&a=360

Happy New Year

PS, I don't wear jeans at dinner on Oceania, but it's completely acceptable if they're nice colored or designer jeans. No big deal.

I'm on the April 5th also. Won't be too long.

 

When we were on Constellation last year there was an enrichment series speaker who gave an hour talk about the Nassau. It was very interesting. Can't imagine that a steel drum band would be part of it that same kind of series - but who knows? :)

Are you serious?

 

I fear this thread is close to being locked. When generalised insults start flying around we are getting very close to all out war :D

These threads should be locked before they're even started. It's always the same old, same old.

Don't forget that the dress code NOW only excludes "casual jeans", whatever that is. All other types of jeans are allowed at dinner. Some of the longtime regulars tend to forget that change has been made, or don't want to acknowledge it

For us it would depend on whether we are on a S class or M class ship. If S then we would automatically upgrade to the Premium in order to be able to drink at Molecular Bar. If on the M class my only concern is to get a better Single Malt Scotch than Glenfiddich. Depending on the length of the cruise I could drink that, or just have other drinks besides scotch.

We did a B2B on a M Class where the first 5 days we had the Premium package and the second 5 days the Classic. For the most part we didn't miss the Premium. You do have much less choice for wines but that doesn't seem to be an issue for you.

Last time we went to Cozumel, we went on the "Cozumel Bar Hop" (Google it). We chose it based all the stellar reviews we read on this site and on CC's sister site, TripAdvisor.

 

It's was absolutely fantastic -- just as good as all the reviews said it was. They take you to the uninhabited east side of the island, which is gorgeous.

 

I hated Cozumel as a stop prior to going on that tour. Now, I'll go on it every time I go to Cozumel.

Totally agree about Cozumel bar hop. Great way to beat the crowds.

Although no snorkeling on this tour I'll 3rd it as a great tour. Group of 8 of us had a great time. We booked a private van for the 8 of us, was only a few dollars more per person.

I got an email the other day asking me to review my recent Alaska cruise on Solstice while it was still fresh in my mind. It was in May, :rolleyes:

Happy New Year Ya'll;)

If I understand it correctly the new brochure that we just received does not include any air. I think this is a first for Oceania. I am surprised.

I've seen a few without air. I'm sure they play with different marketing concepts. In the end it probably all works out the same.

There are times trans pac and Atlantic when there is no internet connection at all. and get ready no TV feeds too.

Different bands/freq for voice and data...

Places where only radio works...and it marginaly .

 

Used the radio telephone in your room... leave the toys at home

Appreciate the advice, but this is not my first rodeo. In some cases you're right, many other times wrong. I'd just caution readers to not always believe something just because someone posts it.

oh wow....you would think with all the technology today, it would not cost a kings ransom to make a two min call to see if your aging mother is ok....

 

ah I know....dont blame it on technology....

I certainly wouldn't take the above answer as the definitive answer to your question. I think I've seen others mention that they have been able to use programs for calls over the internet. A further search might yield more answers. Good luck.

I don't ever recall any music at the Oceanview Bar, or any bar on a Celebrity ship during sailaway. They usually have a sailaway event up by the pool.

On our B2b on Constellation last Feb there was a guitar player that played out there every day around 5pm & sometime later in the evening.

Perhaps they had a meeting and decided playing Bridge doesn't really constitute 'Modern Luxury"

Seems to be a lot of things on the chopping block that small cliques have enjoyed in the past. I guess we just have to get used to it.

Figuring out the difference here :rolleyes:

 

To upgrade package BEFORE cruise the cost is $11.50 per day

if you wait until you are on board it's $17.25?

No, that is not correct. This is a confusing thread with some misinformation, but if you read it again you will see that currently it is still only $11.50 per person per day.

Hey everyone. I'm doing some research and checking out some things. I've looked at shore ex and have a few in mind, but here are my questions for this posting...

 

Alaska

Are there any things that happen on Celebrity ships that are unique to their ALASKA cruises? (or similarly are there any special events that will happen on this upcoming cruise that are Celebrity exclusives... NCL has the White Hot Party for instance, an event exclusive to their brand) The majority of my cruise experience (just look at my sig) is obviously with Holland America and they'll have hot Dutch pea soup in mugs out on deck for the days with scenic glacier cruising and a few other unique bits and pieces along the same lines... Obviously I don't expect Celebrity to have DUTCH pea soup as they aren't a Dutch line, but I think it gives an idea for the type of info I'm looking for.

 

Solstice

Is there any word on whether or not the Martini bar top will be fixed soon? I read in a couple posts a while back that it's been out of commission for a while.

 

I've seen that Solstice has Quasar unlike Reflection for instance that has it's nightclub in the Sky Lounge pretty much? So if the nightclub is Quasar, what does the Sky Lounge on Solstice have for entertainment at night?

 

Michael's Club. I know it is becoming, or has maybe already become the craft beer bar? Was that done on Solstice? They also are saying on another thread that Michael's will be the new Zenith Lounge until 7pm or so. Does that mean I have no way to access all those specialty beers until night time?

 

Specialty Dining

Do Tuscan Grille, Murano and/or Silk Harvest have lunch menus? Free or at a charge? If yes, any info on the menus?

 

8 day cruise. We have never cruised on Celebrity before. We are definitely trying the alternate venues at dinner. Any hints, tips, tricks with the menus? Also, if it were you... would you do a 3 dinner package with one time in each of the 3? or the 5 day package with 1 Murano and 2 Tuscan Grilles and 2 Silk Harvest each?

 

Beverage Package Questions

The premium package handles cocktails up til $12. Or some have said $13. The molecular bar drinks are mostly $13.75 if I've seen correctly? Have amounts been changed on board or will I have a small add on to anything I order from that bar? Most of the drinks I've seen on those menus appeal to me and I won't mind if there's a small difference but it will be a little on the obnoxious side...

 

 

Thanks for indulging me... I'm not new to cruising but I am new to Celebrity and I'm getting REALLY excited!

Unless something has changed, and I don't believe it has, the craft beers are not available on Solstice. :( There was a good Alaskan beer on the Solstice Alaska cruise though. I forget the name of it.

I've sailed on 5 different Celebrity ships and have yet to be on one that has the craft beers. I hope to be on one soon that has them before they scrap the concept. Great idea, poor execution.

I believe I've read those 13.75 prices you saw in the Molecular Bar was for some sailings with the tips added. From what I've read you should be fine in there with the Premium Package. We were fine with the Premium on the two ships we've been on that the MB.

I turn in fairly early so not sure about the Sky Lounge, but I believe they have a dance band playing there in the evenings, or at least they did in the past, things have been rumored to be changing.

Can't really help you with the Specialty restaurants as I've tried Murano and Tuscan grill a couple of times but I really can't find the value in them, others opinions differ. Sometimes they are open for lunch with a reduced menu at a lower price. Definitely not free though.

You'll love Celebrity. Enjoy your cruise.

Bear in mind that the amount of food consumed and activity levels during a cruise definitely affect your tolerance. All that food soaks up the booze.