jleslie48

1) no on the spa for two reasons: A) its pretty small, B)the spa is a public space that is available to all. 2) The "seeing part" I was only on the breakaway once, I don't remember, but I remember constantly running into doors that needed a swipe to enter. I found it very distasteful. On the prima, it is right in your face. Either way, having two classes on the same ship I find uncomfortable.

Of course, that is your personal space. Everything I complained about was about public space. Please review. I would be embarrassed sitting in a haven lounge with hoards of people walking by in a crowd looking in.

that is even more disgusting. I'm so glad that I stick to ships where everybody is equal.

complaint about the haven? the ship is too crowded to begin and the haven blocks of 20-30% of the public space for 400 passengers while 3600 are in a cattle car. so as a haven guest you have now stay in 20-30% of a ship. For that price I'll take the Cunard and have a whole ship of luxury instead of a fishbowl to vacation in.

The haven is a very easy decision for me. I only have so many $$$ for cruising. I'd rather take an obstructed view cabin 3x a year than 1x a year in a haven cabin.

I cruise consultant recommended the joy to me for a cruise, I searched the internet with the question "how crowded is the Norwegian Joy" and it took me here. That simple.

I've never eaten at the buffet. 12 times on the Jewel class ships, the specialty restaurants, the main dining room and O'sheehan's bar. The Main Dining room is spectacular. Both of them. I've never eaten at complimentary Asian Restaurant either.

The entire breakaway class is an abomination. The interior areas block off views of the ocean, the open air areas are entirely too small for the number of passengers, and quite frankly the Haven is an insult to anyone not in it and leaves me with a bad vibe all around. Never again. Try a jewel class cruise with Norwegian you'll notice the difference immedately: You never have to get a reservation for anything. Walk into the theater 2 minutes before the show, you'll get a good seat. Have dinner in any restaurant no wait. I was just on the Gem in 2024 and it was at ful capacity. Never an issue getting a lounge chair. edit: I forgot to mention the atrocity that is the elevator situation on the breakaway class. I've seen subway stations less crowded than the wait (up to 4 groups,) ahead of you to take an elevator. How in god's name did they make these ships with 20 decks and only 2 banks of elevators.

among other reasons, I won't go on the breakaway class ships and the first thing I was annoyed with the one and only time I was on one was the lack of the spinnaker lounge

I haven't made myself clear. I have no issue with the suites, butler, and those amenities nor do I have any problem with the guests. I get you want/get a better room. My issue is with the amount of public space given to YC on MSC. The YC pool restaurant and buffet take up 30% of the public areas for 10% of the guests. I wouldn't even mind this if the remaining 70% of the public areas were not overflowing with people. Put simply: the ship is too crowded for the amount of square footage attributed to the number of guests. When I am wall-to-wall with people on a sun bathing deck and I can see an empty sun bathing deck and I'm not allowed to use it, that is just adding insult to injury. My favorite ship is the Norwegian Gem, a jewel class. It does have a "haven" which is identical to the YC. I couldn't care less about it because: 1) its not in my face, and most importantly: 2) the rest of the ship easily accommodates us other passengers. I've never had to wait for dinner, wait for lounge chair, been shut out of a show, couldn't get a drink, ... on the NG. On the bigger ships that is not true. The worst was the Norwegian breakaway. I measured the actual square footage of the public area. The ship has 40% more public area than the Norwegian Gem, but 70% more people. That's already too crowded. What made it unacceptable was that 20% of that public area was for 1st class and I was denied access. Basically I was on the same ship at the Gem but with twice the number of people. You had to literally wait for groups ahead of you for elevators. It felt like a subway. MSC was the same thing: 33% of the elevators are for 10% of the passengers, while the other 66% is stuck waiting on elevators while 1/3 of the elevators are sitting idle.

If I want a luxury cruise I would pay for one. If I'm on a more tight budget, being on a ship that has a "first class" section and puts me in a lower class is insulting and I won't go... at least a second time. This idea is a lose lose scenario. It only appeals to people who want to show off and put other folks down.